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"Lol ermmm not if you just have a sprained ankle " Close I busted my foot ha | |||
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"I'm disabled, I explain my limits before a meet most people are good about. My disability does not define me, just makes me more interesting " totally agree , think it makes you more interesting :-] | |||
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"I chat regularly with two wheelchair users... It's them I see not their chairs. " I'd chat with anyone, doesn't mean I'd play with them. If Daniel Craig was in a wheelchair and gagging for it it'd be a no as my playroom with my brackets and hooks etc are on the third floor! | |||
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"We all have needs whether able bodied or not " You're not wrong there LadyM, what I do have problem is with your comment that suggests my body isn't able. Trust me, give me the chance and I'll show you just how able it is | |||
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"Well I'm in a wheelchair and I tend to be upfront and tend to use humour to try and make ppl at ease when chatting. Surely its about ability NOT dis-ability? " Fantastically put! And I'd add that surely it's about seeing the person and not the 'disability'. | |||
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"I met a man in a wheelchair last weekend at a club. I made him a cup of tea as he couldnt reach, had a chat, later on he was having the time of his life, bless him Her" Bless him? Was he in need of Devine intervention? Sorry but as a wheelchair user I find that rather patronising!! | |||
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"I met a man in a wheelchair last weekend at a club. I made him a cup of tea as he couldnt reach, had a chat, later on he was having the time of his life, bless him Her Bless him? Was he in need of Devine intervention? Sorry but as a wheelchair user I find that rather patronising!! " call it patronising all you like i use the term " bless him" quite a lot, part of my mother tongue. Her | |||
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"I have a disability, and doesn't hold me back xxx" | |||
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"I met a man in a wheelchair last weekend at a club. I made him a cup of tea as he couldnt reach, had a chat, later on he was having the time of his life, bless him Her Bless him? Was he in need of Devine intervention? Sorry but as a wheelchair user I find that rather patronising!! call it patronising all you like i use the term " bless him" quite a lot, part of my mother tongue. Her" I think different parts of the country have different expressions. Having made friends with people on here that we wouldn't come across ordinarily we have found the differences fun. I have learnt that bless you, cock, chick etc are terms of endearment and take them as such.....just because I don't use them in my world doesn't make them wrong - we are all different and that includes our terminology | |||
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"I met a man in a wheelchair last weekend at a club. I made him a cup of tea as he couldnt reach, had a chat, later on he was having the time of his life, bless him Her Bless him? Was he in need of Devine intervention? Sorry but as a wheelchair user I find that rather patronising!! call it patronising all you like i use the term " bless him" quite a lot, part of my mother tongue. Her" Would you have said 'bless him' if he was not disabled yet you had a good chat with him before seeing him have the 'time of his life'? | |||
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"Ah this thread is so cute! Good on you still enjoying yourselves! Makes me smile knowing that you still carry on! Your beautiful, just the way you are." Patronising. | |||
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"I met a man in a wheelchair last weekend at a club. I made him a cup of tea as he couldnt reach, had a chat, later on he was having the time of his life, bless him Her Bless him? Was he in need of Devine intervention? Sorry but as a wheelchair user I find that rather patronising!! call it patronising all you like i use the term " bless him" quite a lot, part of my mother tongue. Her Would you have said 'bless him' if he was not disabled yet you had a good chat with him before seeing him have the 'time of his life'? " i say it about everyone man, woman anybody, i say it proberly 20 times a day. Her | |||
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"I met a man in a wheelchair last weekend at a club. I made him a cup of tea as he couldnt reach, had a chat, later on he was having the time of his life, bless him Her Bless him? Was he in need of Devine intervention? Sorry but as a wheelchair user I find that rather patronising!! call it patronising all you like i use the term " bless him" quite a lot, part of my mother tongue. Her" I understand it is part of your mother tongue and regional variations have a part to play, but the way it comes across it sounds patronising. That's where I've been going wrong, maybe if had a cup of tea I might have the time of my life too? Just a thought.... | |||
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"Ah this thread is so cute! Good on you still enjoying yourselves! Makes me smile knowing that you still carry on! Your beautiful, just the way you are." Tosser! | |||
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"I met a man in a wheelchair last weekend at a club. I made him a cup of tea as he couldnt reach, had a chat, later on he was having the time of his life, bless him Her Bless him? Was he in need of Devine intervention? Sorry but as a wheelchair user I find that rather patronising!! call it patronising all you like i use the term " bless him" quite a lot, part of my mother tongue. Her I understand it is part of your mother tongue and regional variations have a part to play, but the way it comes across it sounds patronising. That's where I've been going wrong, maybe if had a cup of tea I might have the time of my life too? Just a thought...." Me too! I dont express very well online anyway, i write what is in my head, comes out slap dash, and no one can see body language and tone of voice ect, i understand Her | |||
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"I met a man in a wheelchair last weekend at a club. I made him a cup of tea as he couldnt reach, had a chat, later on he was having the time of his life, bless him Her Bless him? Was he in need of Devine intervention? Sorry but as a wheelchair user I find that rather patronising!! call it patronising all you like i use the term " bless him" quite a lot, part of my mother tongue. Her Would you have said 'bless him' if he was not disabled yet you had a good chat with him before seeing him have the 'time of his life'? i say it about everyone man, woman anybody, i say it proberly 20 times a day. Her" In the first statement I took the bless him part to be related to him 'having the time of his life' not the fact that he had a disability! I grew up with a dad in a wheelchair so I understand that some people do have a patronising attitude towards the disabled (I've seen it many times) but that doesn't mean we tar everyone with the same brush! Plus remember that when it's written down with no intonation meaning can be very easily misconstrued. | |||
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"Ah this thread is so cute! Good on you still enjoying yourselves! Makes me smile knowing that you still carry on! Your beautiful, just the way you are. Tosser!" | |||
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"I am disabled and use crutches, had to use a wheelchair for bit too. Only problem for me is that Chams has way to many stairs lol." This is the problem I have and most people won't meet outside of Chams, which is understandable. | |||
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"Jesus, what a minefield! Think I'll block and ignore that way I can't say the wrong thing. And it's the end of me holding doors open for people to. After all, I might be doing it in a patronising way..... # doingyourselfmoreharmthangood" If you can't see the difference between manners and being patronising perhaps you should become a hermit? I hold doors open for people of all abilities, I offer to help people of all abilities if they are struggling etc. That's not patronising. Patronising is assuming that disabled people can't have sex and saying things like 'bless they're or 'its cute' or 'if they still want to play, good on em'. IMO of course | |||
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"Jesus, what a minefield! Think I'll block and ignore that way I can't say the wrong thing. And it's the end of me holding doors open for people to. After all, I might be doing it in a patronising way..... # doingyourselfmoreharmthangood If you can't see the difference between manners and being patronising perhaps you should become a hermit? I hold doors open for people of all abilities, I offer to help people of all abilities if they are struggling etc. That's not patronising. Patronising is assuming that disabled people can't have sex and saying things like 'bless they're or 'its cute' or 'if they still want to play, good on em'. IMO of course " Nicely put. that's exactly what was thinking but did know how to word it. | |||
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"#giveashit The only disability lies within the mind of the disabled pperson." | |||
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"#giveashit Maybe 20 years or so ago people with physical disabilities didn't get equality in the way they should have. Fast forward to 2014 present and here... it is the norm now and personal I don't bat a single eye lash when I see disability on the streets. The only disability lies within the mind of the disabled pperson.we have peaked equality and to be honest if my mate was chair bound or whatever.. I wouldn't give a shit it's still him!" borrow a wheelchair and try and access the public transport system in this country.. just one example of how we are decades away from being anywhere like a peak on equality.. attitudes, opportunities are still lacking.. | |||
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"#giveashit Maybe 20 years or so ago people with physical disabilities didn't get equality in the way they should have. Fast forward to 2014 present and here... it is the norm now and personal I don't bat a single eye lash when I see disability on the streets. The only disability lies within the mind of the disabled pperson.we have peaked equality and to be honest if my mate was chair bound or whatever.. I wouldn't give a shit it's still him!" All this proves is how little you know of disability and equality in this country! Equality isn't just about how many services disabled people can access it's the way that everyone treats people. You're earlier comment of how this thread was 'cute' shows how some people still see disabled people doing everyday things as a novelty act or something. Phrases like chair bound can be offensive also. Like you define the person by the fact they are in a wheelchair. My sister had to use a wheelchair when she was 5 and she was far from bound to the thing! She was rarely in it. My dad had to rescue her from the top of a playhouse in the park once lol | |||
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"i saw one where the partner of the fem was wheelchair bound so he gave his blessing for his mrs to find fulfillment onhere thought it was quite touching actually " No more touching than any man that can't fulfil his wife's needs and let's her fuck other men with his blessing. Happens all the time. | |||
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"#giveashit Maybe 20 years or so ago people with physical disabilities didn't get equality in the way they should have. Fast forward to 2014 present and here... it is the norm now and personal I don't bat a single eye lash when I see disability on the streets. The only disability lies within the mind of the disabled pperson.we have peaked equality and to be honest if my mate was chair bound or whatever.. I wouldn't give a shit it's still him!" So are you saying that my Cerebral Palsy is in my mind? As for equality that will never happen, not in my life time. | |||
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"#giveashit Maybe 20 years or so ago people with physical disabilities didn't get equality in the way they should have. Fast forward to 2014 present and here... it is the norm now and personal I don't bat a single eye lash when I see disability on the streets. The only disability lies within the mind of the disabled pperson.we have peaked equality and to be honest if my mate was chair bound or whatever.. I wouldn't give a shit it's still him! All this proves is how little you know of disability and equality in this country! Equality isn't just about how many services disabled people can access it's the way that everyone treats people. You're earlier comment of how this thread was 'cute' shows how some people still see disabled people doing everyday things as a novelty act or something. Phrases like chair bound can be offensive also. Like you define the person by the fact they are in a wheelchair. My sister had to use a wheelchair when she was 5 and she was far from bound to the thing! She was rarely in it. My dad had to rescue her from the top of a playhouse in the park once lol" Hmm. .. unless your a throw back from the 70's I can't see many people treating the disabled people badly.. I'm talking collectively as a population not specific individuals. Take a look around you.. They aren't any different and the majority of people treat them exactly the same.. They aren't special. No better or worse than you or I. P.s I was being sarcastic with the cute comment. | |||
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"#giveashit Maybe 20 years or so ago people with physical disabilities didn't get equality in the way they should have. Fast forward to 2014 present and here... it is the norm now and personal I don't bat a single eye lash when I see disability on the streets. The only disability lies within the mind of the disabled pperson.we have peaked equality and to be honest if my mate was chair bound or whatever.. I wouldn't give a shit it's still him! So are you saying that my Cerebral Palsy is in my mind? As for equality that will never happen, not in my life time. " NO NO NO NOT AT ALL! I'm saying the negativity can be all in your mind, not the illness lol! | |||
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"Strip back the labels people are people " So how can it be, you and I should get on so awfully. | |||
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"I made him a cup of tea as he couldnt reach, had a chat, later on he was having the time of his life, bless him Her" Just to let you know I've had a cup of tea, I'm still waiting for the time of my life. Going to try coffee later. I'll keep you all informed. lol. | |||
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"#giveashit Maybe 20 years or so ago people with physical disabilities didn't get equality in the way they should have. Fast forward to 2014 present and here... it is the norm now and personal I don't bat a single eye lash when I see disability on the streets. The only disability lies within the mind of the disabled pperson.we have peaked equality and to be honest if my mate was chair bound or whatever.. I wouldn't give a shit it's still him! All this proves is how little you know of disability and equality in this country! Equality isn't just about how many services disabled people can access it's the way that everyone treats people. You're earlier comment of how this thread was 'cute' shows how some people still see disabled people doing everyday things as a novelty act or something. Phrases like chair bound can be offensive also. Like you define the person by the fact they are in a wheelchair. My sister had to use a wheelchair when she was 5 and she was far from bound to the thing! She was rarely in it. My dad had to rescue her from the top of a playhouse in the park once lol Hmm. .. unless your a throw back from the 70's I can't see many people treating the disabled people badly.. I'm talking collectively as a population not specific individuals. Take a look around you.. They aren't any different and the majority of people treat them exactly the same.. They aren't special. No better or worse than you or I. P.s I was being sarcastic with the cute comment." You said "The only disability lies within the mind of the disabled pperson." case closed. Please you sarcasms to yourself in future. | |||
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"I can't be arsed with your pathetic cheap shots. Case closed." Lol | |||
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"#giveashit Maybe 20 years or so ago people with physical disabilities didn't get equality in the way they should have. Fast forward to 2014 present and here... it is the norm now and personal I don't bat a single eye lash when I see disability on the streets. The only disability lies within the mind of the disabled pperson.we have peaked equality and to be honest if my mate was chair bound or whatever.. I wouldn't give a shit it's still him! All this proves is how little you know of disability and equality in this country! Equality isn't just about how many services disabled people can access it's the way that everyone treats people. You're earlier comment of how this thread was 'cute' shows how some people still see disabled people doing everyday things as a novelty act or something. Phrases like chair bound can be offensive also. Like you define the person by the fact they are in a wheelchair. My sister had to use a wheelchair when she was 5 and she was far from bound to the thing! She was rarely in it. My dad had to rescue her from the top of a playhouse in the park once lol Hmm. .. unless your a throw back from the 70's I can't see many people treating the disabled people badly.. I'm talking collectively as a population not specific individuals. Take a look around you.. They aren't any different and the majority of people treat them exactly the same.. They aren't special. No better or worse than you or I. P.s I was being sarcastic with the cute comment." Of course you were. Take the rose tinted spectacles off once in a while. Discrimination is still rife in this day and age. Only just this week I have rwad a story where 2 brothers with downs syndrome were refused entry to a local bowls club because some.member had complained that they felt uncomfortable with them being there! | |||
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"I can't be arsed with your pathetic cheap shots. Case closed." You started the cheap shots with your first comment! | |||
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"I am disabled and use crutches, had to use a wheelchair for bit too. Only problem for me is that Chams has way to many stairs lol. This is the problem I have and most people won't meet outside of Chams, which is understandable." Many people meet in places other than Chams !!!!! | |||
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"I am disabled and use crutches, had to use a wheelchair for bit too. Only problem for me is that Chams has way to many stairs lol. This is the problem I have and most people won't meet outside of Chams, which is understandable. Many people meet in places other than Chams !!!!!" I know that, only last week I meet a wonderful lady for coffee in Birmingham. | |||
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"Being as a disabled swinger who is confined in a wheelchair. The one thing I do find it very irritating is when I write to people they will delete my message, which is entitled to but What really does annoy me is when they block me off their page. I believe that there is no need for this. Because if they delete my message which they are entitled to, I have no problem with that. Some people might send a reply back. Then I Cinden replies saying thank you for their feedback. But to block somebody offered praise is I think very rude. Can I ask disabled people or able-bodied people whether you agree with this practice and of course any disabled people has this happened to you?" I am a disabled person but have not had this happen to me, however you can't be sure that they blocked you cus you are disabled .... i block peole who messege me but dont meet what i look for ! | |||
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"I am disabled and use crutches, had to use a wheelchair for bit too. Only problem for me is that Chams has way to many stairs lol. This is the problem I have and most people won't meet outside of Chams, which is understandable. Many people meet in places other than Chams !!!!! I know that, only last week I meet a wonderful lady for coffee in Birmingham. " So why did you say "most people wont meet outside of chams " then ? some eople dont even know what chams is let alone meet at it lol | |||
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"Once meet with an ex Squaddie amputee. He was actually very skilled sexually and a very nice guy " and why would you believe that he wouldn't be? he has an impairment due to his amputation, he is only disabled by peoples ignorance towards him by thinking that he's less able. | |||
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"I'm from a family with lots of disabilities, I work with people who have severe disabilities and was in quite a long relationship with a man who was in a wheelchair. Sometimes a disability can stop you doing certain things depending on the situation but everybody is a person First and foremost and as someone earlier said we should look at ability not disability. And on a side note the sex with my ex who was in the wheelchair was the most amazing and mind opening I've ever experienced so never rule anybody out just because of a label. If there's a connection there's a connection. x" | |||
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"I'm from a family with lots of disabilities, I work with people who have severe disabilities and was in quite a long relationship with a man who was in a wheelchair. Sometimes a disability can stop you doing certain things depending on the situation but everybody is a person First and foremost and as someone earlier said we should look at ability not disability. And on a side note the sex with my ex who was in the wheelchair was the most amazing and mind opening I've ever experienced so never rule anybody out just because of a label. If there's a connection there's a connection. x" Ginger, thanks for a fabulously positive response. I wanted to pm you privately but filters and all that Great social model of disability thread! | |||
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"I was browsing through profiles and came across a profile of a gentleman who was in a wheelchair , first time I have seen someone disabled on here , not that it would bother me if the chemistry was there , just curios to know if many wheelchair users are on here ?" Well done them ! So very brave of them in this at times a cruel world towards people with disabilities x Carry on !! Xxxx | |||
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"I wonder if an important thing to realise is that people are people? When you've met one person wth a disability, you've only met that one person. Don't group everyone together with a label and assume it defines those people. Slightly different but when I was going through infertility, I was discussing with friends (also going through infertility) about some of the incredibly hurtful things people say without thinking. Turned out that some of us thought stuff was fine and others got offended. Because everyone is different. There were universal things not to say like "why don't you just adopt?" however. " | |||
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"I wonder if an important thing to realise is that people are people? When you've met one person wth a disability, you've only met that one person. Don't group everyone together with a label and assume it defines those people. Slightly different but when I was going through infertility, I was discussing with friends (also going through infertility) about some of the incredibly hurtful things people say without thinking. Turned out that some of us thought stuff was fine and others got offended. Because everyone is different. There were universal things not to say like "why don't you just adopt?" however. " Someone actually said to u, while u were going through infertility, to adopt??? How rude!! I can't believe someone wud say that!! Xx | |||
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"I applaud them, swinging can be horrendously superficial so for disabled people to enter this world, they have balls " | |||
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" Someone actually said to u, while u were going through infertility, to adopt??? How rude!! I can't believe someone wud say that!! Xx" I actually lost count of how many people said this. It's very, very common. Usually from people who have their own kids. | |||
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"I am disabled and use crutches, had to use a wheelchair for bit too. Only problem for me is that Chams has way to many stairs lol." Actually never given it much consideration before - but none of the clubs I frequent are disabilaty/wheelchair friendly! They all have lots of stairs - usually very steep ones - hence itmust be difficult to enjoy the social aide of swinging if you're disabled! Xx | |||
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"I am disabled and use crutches, had to use a wheelchair for bit too. Only problem for me is that Chams has way to many stairs lol. Actually never given it much consideration before - but none of the clubs I frequent are disabilaty/wheelchair friendly! They all have lots of stairs - usually very steep ones - hence itmust be difficult to enjoy the social aide of swinging if you're disabled! Xx" Social side - not social aide - sorry! Hope the clubs do something about this in the near future! Xx | |||
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" Someone actually said to u, while u were going through infertility, to adopt??? How rude!! I can't believe someone wud say that!! Xx I actually lost count of how many people said this. It's very, very common. Usually from people who have their own kids." funnily enough when I was told I couldn't have kids thanks to cancer, people told me to grow a pair and get on with it I was 38 Yet these all have kids and a family | |||
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" Someone actually said to u, while u were going through infertility, to adopt??? How rude!! I can't believe someone wud say that!! Xx I actually lost count of how many people said this. It's very, very common. Usually from people who have their own kids. funnily enough when I was told I couldn't have kids thanks to cancer, people told me to grow a pair and get on with it I was 38 Yet these all have kids and a family " That's pretty horrific,not being able to have your own children was devastating for me. If I had been told this I don't know how I would have reacted | |||
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"never given it much consideration before - but none of the clubs I frequent are disabilaty/wheelchair friendly! They all have lots of stairs - usually very steep ones - hence itmust be difficult to enjoy the social aide of swinging if you're disabled! Xx" You're absolutely spot on Butt, because of that I have not been able to enjoy the club scene despite clubs having a stutory obligation to comply with the Equality Act and make reasonable adjustments, I dread to think or even conduct a straw poll of which clubs would actively go out of their way to welcome and make reasonable adjustments for disabled people? If there any club owners reading this thread, pay attention, you are running the risk by not complying and actively welcoming disabled people. | |||
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" Someone actually said to u, while u were going through infertility, to adopt??? How rude!! I can't believe someone wud say that!! Xx I actually lost count of how many people said this. It's very, very common. Usually from people who have their own kids. funnily enough when I was told I couldn't have kids thanks to cancer, people told me to grow a pair and get on with it I was 38 Yet these all have kids and a family That's pretty horrific,not being able to have your own children was devastating for me. If I had been told this I don't know how I would have reacted " when the option was took from me yes was devastating even know that my sister in law has announced shes pregnant again she was worried about telling me but now im stronger it wasnt my time | |||
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" Someone actually said to u, while u were going through infertility, to adopt??? How rude!! I can't believe someone wud say that!! Xx I actually lost count of how many people said this. It's very, very common. Usually from people who have their own kids. funnily enough when I was told I couldn't have kids thanks to cancer, people told me to grow a pair and get on with it I was 38 Yet these all have kids and a family That's pretty horrific,not being able to have your own children was devastating for me. If I had been told this I don't know how I would have reacted when the option was took from me yes was devastating even know that my sister in law has announced shes pregnant again she was worried about telling me but now im stronger it wasnt my time " I had that a lot from friends and family,being worried to tell us. It's not easy for your nearest and dearest,we adopted two little girls in the end. We went from one roller coaster of fertility treatment to the roller coaster of adoption. I can't remember the last time I felt sane | |||
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"I thought people with disabilities just wish to be treated as everyone else is? If this is the case then you should simply accept that some may wish not to meet you purely because of your disability. People who are excluded for other reasons, i.e being black, white, Asian, too short, too fat, too skinny, too old, too young, are told to concentrate on those that do wish to meet them and not those that don't. You can't help your disability, just as some of the above examples can't help the reason they get rejected. Get over it and deal..." | |||
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"I'm totally deaf, doesn't hold me back, does others meeting me though sadly x" I'm totally Blind, doesn't hold me back either, doesn't hold those people that I've met who have seen past my impairment, guess however, that sadly it does others mind, | |||
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"There loss x" Exactly, my sentiments entirely | |||
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"I am a stroke survivor and find it hard to get meets on this site " Nah it's just cos you are a single bloke. They all find it hard. | |||
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"I am a stroke survivor and find it hard to get meets on this site " Sorry but your profile put me off wanting to msg u | |||
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"I am a stroke survivor and find it hard to get meets on this site Sorry but your profile put me off wanting to msg u" Don't feel disheartened Mal711, Jacks hasn't msg'd me either, sob. Just stick at it, put in the effort, and enjoy the forums along the way | |||
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"I met a man in a wheelchair last weekend at a club. I made him a cup of tea as he couldnt reach, had a chat, later on he was having the time of his life, bless him Her Bless him? Was he in need of Devine intervention? Sorry but as a wheelchair user I find that rather patronising!! " I find that patronising too and it horrifies me that people still seem to think like that in this modern world !!! I am disabled, my sex life is the same as it was before i became disabled, my disability certainly doesn't stop me wanting or having sex ! | |||
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"There loss x" but it isn't their loss if they didn't want to meet in the first place | |||
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" I made him a cup of tea as he couldnt reach, had a chat, later on he was having the time of his life, bless him Her Bless him? Was he in need of Devine intervention? Sorry but as a wheelchair user I find that rather patronising!! I find that patronising too and it horrifies me that people still seem to think like that in this modern world !!! I am disabled, my sex life is the same as it was before i became disabled, my disability certainly doesn't stop me wanting or having sex !" It was explained earlier in the thread that it is a figure of speach ...there is really nothing horrifying about it | |||
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" I made him a cup of tea as he couldnt reach, had a chat, later on he was having the time of his life, bless him Her Bless him? Was he in need of Devine intervention? Sorry but as a wheelchair user I find that rather patronising!! I find that patronising too and it horrifies me that people still seem to think like that in this modern world !!! I am disabled, my sex life is the same as it was before i became disabled, my disability certainly doesn't stop me wanting or having sex ! It was explained earlier in the thread that it is a figure of speach ...there is really nothing horrifying about it " the trouble with relying on historic figures of speach is that people need to recognise that offence is easily taken, and what was perfectly acceptable many years ago, suddenly becomes very shocking to some, causes imense upset and is considered as being patronising....bless him, would rattle my cage as welll; though I know that it isn't meant in a derogatory way, it conjours up images of handicaped and helplessness, something that we are not and will not allow people to use language that reminds of! we are disabled by the non disabled persons world and society that we have to live in, that is all! | |||
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"#giveashit Maybe 20 years or so ago people with physical disabilities didn't get equality in the way they should have. Fast forward to 2014 present and here... it is the norm now and personal I don't bat a single eye lash when I see disability on the streets. The only disability lies within the mind of the disabled pperson.we have peaked equality and to be honest if my mate was chair bound or whatever.. I wouldn't give a shit it's still him! All this proves is how little you know of disability and equality in this country! Equality isn't just about how many services disabled people can access it's the way that everyone treats people. You're earlier comment of how this thread was 'cute' shows how some people still see disabled people doing everyday things as a novelty act or something. Phrases like chair bound can be offensive also. Like you define the person by the fact they are in a wheelchair. My sister had to use a wheelchair when she was 5 and she was far from bound to the thing! She was rarely in it. My dad had to rescue her from the top of a playhouse in the park once lol Hmm. .. unless your a throw back from the 70's I can't see many people treating the disabled people badly.. I'm talking collectively as a population not specific individuals. Take a look around you.. They aren't any different and the majority of people treat them exactly the same.. They aren't special. No better or worse than you or I. P.s I was being sarcastic with the cute comment. You said "The only disability lies within the mind of the disabled pperson." case closed. Please you sarcasms to yourself in future. " You are not showing yourself in a good light mate, you just sound angry. Trust me this anger wont be an attractive trait to the fine ladies in here. You've probably just shot yourself in the foot (no pun intended) | |||
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"We all have needs whether able bodied or not " that infers that disabled people are not able, can be taken as patronising... | |||
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"We all have needs whether able bodied or not that infers that disabled people are not able, can be taken as patronising... " It stands to reason that disabled people are not as able... otherwise, they wouldn't be registered as disabled. Disabled people have limited ability, it doesn't mean they cannot do the things able bodied people can do - just, their ability to do them would be impaired. There is nothing patronising about that, it is a recognition of it. | |||
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"#giveashit Maybe 20 years or so ago people with physical disabilities didn't get equality in the way they should have. Fast forward to 2014 present and here... it is the norm now and personal I don't bat a single eye lash when I see disability on the streets. The only disability lies within the mind of the disabled pperson.we have peaked equality and to be honest if my mate was chair bound or whatever.. I wouldn't give a shit it's still him! borrow a wheelchair and try and access the public transport system in this country.. just one example of how we are decades away from being anywhere like a peak on equality.. attitudes, opportunities are still lacking.." I did just that a few weeks ago. I couldn't use the tube as my nearest stations are inaccessible. I couldn't go on the train for the same reason. Competing with buggies on the bus was interesting but what was more interesting was someone close to me saying they didn't want to go on the bus with me as getting the ramp in place takes too long and holds up the service. | |||
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"We all have needs whether able bodied or not that infers that disabled people are not able, can be taken as patronising... It stands to reason that disabled people are not as able... otherwise, they wouldn't be registered as disabled. Disabled people have limited ability, it doesn't mean they cannot do the things able bodied people can do - just, their ability to do them would be impaired. There is nothing patronising about that, it is a recognition of it." that is reinforcing the medical model of disability, as disabled people we tend to look at it from the social model of disability, we are disabled by society, attitudes, the built environment and so on, take away those barriers and with them go discrimination and bigotted remarks such as seeing us as less able | |||
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"We all have needs whether able bodied or not that infers that disabled people are not able, can be taken as patronising... It stands to reason that disabled people are not as able... otherwise, they wouldn't be registered as disabled. Disabled people have limited ability, it doesn't mean they cannot do the things able bodied people can do - just, their ability to do them would be impaired. There is nothing patronising about that, it is a recognition of it. that is reinforcing the medical model of disability, as disabled people we tend to look at it from the social model of disability, we are disabled by society, attitudes, the built environment and so on, take away those barriers and with them go discrimination and bigotted remarks such as seeing us as less able" If someone is physically, or mentally not able to do something - through injury or trauma, how is that society impairing them. There could be all the love in the world, combined with all the escalators in the world, but if someone has say Agoraphobia, all the social adjustments in the world will not help being stranded on a hill. Similarly, a double amputee, cannot reasonably expect to undertake a journey an able bodied person would due to sores, or physical fatigue (I am giving off the top of my head examples here). There is nothing, prejudice, but you have to realise that there are personal limitations - disability, as I said earlier, is a recognition of an inability. | |||
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"We all have needs whether able bodied or not that infers that disabled people are not able, can be taken as patronising... It stands to reason that disabled people are not as able... otherwise, they wouldn't be registered as disabled. Disabled people have limited ability, it doesn't mean they cannot do the things able bodied people can do - just, their ability to do them would be impaired. There is nothing patronising about that, it is a recognition of it. that is reinforcing the medical model of disability, as disabled people we tend to look at it from the social model of disability, we are disabled by society, attitudes, the built environment and so on, take away those barriers and with them go discrimination and bigotted remarks such as seeing us as less able If someone is physically, or mentally not able to do something - through injury or trauma, how is that society impairing them. There could be all the love in the world, combined with all the escalators in the world, but if someone has say Agoraphobia, all the social adjustments in the world will not help being stranded on a hill. Similarly, a double amputee, cannot reasonably expect to undertake a journey an able bodied person would due to sores, or physical fatigue (I am giving off the top of my head examples here). There is nothing, prejudice, but you have to realise that there are personal limitations - disability, as I said earlier, is a recognition of an inability. " by making reasonable adjustments a person with an impairment can dismantle barriers that disable them including using language that segregates and divides, | |||
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"I still think people don't see the full picture. People are too quick to judge. Just your mind and see where it leads you. " there are many people on fab who are disabled, some on this thread who have a great time. I know I'm going to sound harsh but try living your life around your disability and not through it. Some clubs are wheelchair friendly vanilla alternative for one. So your not the only wheelchair user on fab, maybe its other reasons why your not getting meets. | |||
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"I've noticed there are people with a sense of entitlement. I want a shag but no one wants to meet me because I'm bi/black/asian/short/married/ginger/disabled/fat/hairy/have fake boobs etc (delete as applicable)! When will some realise this is FANTASY...a HOBBY. We will NOT appeal to everyone so get over it. In the real world most people don't bat an eyelid at "differences" and our lives are often enriched by the people we meet. Whilst I have friends and family of different ages, nationalities, abilities etc for play purposes my fantasy figure is not a Harry Styles lookalike or someone in a wheelchair. Likewise there are people who like chatting to me and meeting socially but an old, fat, black woman doesn't float their boat sexually. C'est la vie...don't see the problem. " This rules of attraction apply for every situation for us. | |||
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"We all have needs whether able bodied or not that infers that disabled people are not able, can be taken as patronising... It stands to reason that disabled people are not as able... otherwise, they wouldn't be registered as disabled. Disabled people have limited ability, it doesn't mean they cannot do the things able bodied people can do - just, their ability to do them would be impaired. There is nothing patronising about that, it is a recognition of it." Why would you say ''Stand to reason'' when I can't walk!! | |||
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"I've noticed there are people with a sense of entitlement. I want a shag but no one wants to meet me because I'm bi/black/asian/short/married/ginger/disabled/fat/hairy/have fake boobs etc (delete as applicable)! When will some realise this is FANTASY...a HOBBY. We will NOT appeal to everyone so get over it. In the real world most people don't bat an eyelid at "differences" and our lives are often enriched by the people we meet. Whilst I have friends and family of different ages, nationalities, abilities etc for play purposes my fantasy figure is not a Harry Styles lookalike or someone in a wheelchair. Likewise there are people who like chatting to me and meeting socially but an old, fat, black woman doesn't float their boat sexually. C'est la vie...don't see the problem. " Kind of what I said on this thread six weeks ago. | |||
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"We all have needs whether able bodied or not " well said . | |||
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"We all have needs whether able bodied or not well said . " I agree we all have needs but sex isn't a need: we can survive in ourselves without it. It provides a lot of things that supply the blocks of feeling well and happy but it's not food and water. By putting NSA sex into a needs category puts people who don't want to meet that need as the bad guys and it's just not that simple. I have met people with observable disabilities and those with hidden disabilities. I've taken it further than a social with some and not with others. The initial meeting was because that person interested me and I interested them. I am not interested in adding lots of disabled people from Fab to my social or sexual circles just because they have a disability and a "need" to meet me. Just as I'm not willing to meet anyone from Fab because they feel a "need" to meet me because they haven't had sex for a month or with a black woman or whatever "need" they are claiming. | |||
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"a guy could go off this site, on talking to a friend off the forums and...."if you were normal" or something along thos lines was said What with the inference that I was less able in this thread and now someone suggesting I'm not normal? golly now I know what its like to be Funky Monkey. " I don't think your friend was referring to you being blind, think they where referring to the fact your not normal in general | |||
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"a guy could go off this site, on talking to a friend off the forums and...."if you were normal" or something along thos lines was said What with the inference that I was less able in this thread and now someone suggesting I'm not normal? golly now I know what its like to be Funky Monkey. I don't think your friend was referring to you being blind, think they where referring to the fact your not normal in general " Hmmmm? guess I've been rumbled | |||
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"I still think people don't see the full picture. People are too quick to judge. Just your mind and see where it leads you. there are many people on fab who are disabled, some on this thread who have a great time. I know I'm going to sound harsh but try living your life around your disability and not through it. Some clubs are wheelchair friendly vanilla alternative for one. So your not the only wheelchair user on fab, maybe its other reasons why your not getting meets. " If you look at my profile you'll that I use humour and also I'm honest, imagine turning up for a meet not saying that I suffer from a disability, its not fair on the person I'm meeting. As for clubs, its a non starter as Chams in Darlaston and Xtasia in West Bromwich are not wheelchair accessible, so if you look at most profiles, people will only meet at clubs. | |||
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"I still think people don't see the full picture. People are too quick to judge. Just your mind and see where it leads you. there are many people on fab who are disabled, some on this thread who have a great time. I know I'm going to sound harsh but try living your life around your disability and not through it. Some clubs are wheelchair friendly vanilla alternative for one. So your not the only wheelchair user on fab, maybe its other reasons why your not getting meets. If you look at my profile you'll that I use humour and also I'm honest, imagine turning up for a meet not saying that I suffer from a disability, its not fair on the person I'm meeting. As for clubs, its a non starter as Chams in Darlaston and Xtasia in West Bromwich are not wheelchair accessible, so if you look at most profiles, people will only meet at clubs. " Liberty Elite is not too far away from you and they have everything apart from three private rooms on one level. Pretty sure not everybody meets in clubs either. We have found on the private party and club scene people are very accommodating for all regardless of ability. Inclusivity surprised us on the scene and is very much alive and well. | |||
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"And is there a point to it.... Shall we highlight that we have disabilities because we're abnormal.... Idiot springs to mind. " Me? | |||
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"... , they have balls " The women too? Interesting | |||
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"... , they have balls The women too? Interesting" how funny | |||
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"... , they have balls The women too? Interesting how funny" no; it would be weird | |||
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"... , they have balls The women too? Interesting how funny no; it would be weird " it is clear what I meant in my post, not literally and well you know..... | |||
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"... , they have balls The women too? Interesting how funny no; it would be weird it is clear what I meant in my post, not literally and well you know....." calm down | |||
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"I watched a programme on bbc 3 recently called "The ugly face of disability: hate crime" lots of things in that show that I was totally unaware of and makes for interesting _iewing. It's on iplayer still for a few more weeks . Whether you are disabled or not I advise to watch it as it'll open your eyes to different ways disability can be judged in general life. " this | |||
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"It happens in life so expect same on line, sad when someone has to use someone else's indifferences for self esteem" Are you saying if someone doesn't play with a disabled person it's down to ego?!! | |||
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"I was browsing through profiles and came across a profile of a gentleman who was in a wheelchair , first time I have seen someone disabled on here , not that it would bother me if the chemistry was there , just curios to know if many wheelchair users are on here ?" I attended a FFFF event at Xtasia a while back. Was a guy in a wheelchair there.... So clearly no problem! | |||
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"I watched a programme on bbc 3 recently called "The ugly face of disability: hate crime" lots of things in that show that I was totally unaware of and makes for interesting _iewing. It's on iplayer still for a few more weeks . Whether you are disabled or not I advise to watch it as it'll open your eyes to different ways disability can be judged in general life. " And you think only disabled people are discriminated against in general life?!! | |||
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" And you think only disabled people are discriminated against in general life?!! " nobody so far has suggested that, each one of the protected characteristics within the equality act attracts its own discrimination, race hatred and crime resulting from that I believe is still a criminal offence (may be wrong) whereas disability hate crime I'm not sure about, maybe you know? | |||
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"People think I'm a novelty or that I need sympathy shags, so I'd rather not meet anymore. " Hmmm? shame, your verifications don't come across that way, and you're obviously still meeting or is it starting 1st August | |||
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