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Are humans naturally monogamus?
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Is it a natural thing for humans to commit sexually to one partner or is it a constraint imposed by society and religion?  "
I believe it's a constraint imposed by society etc x |
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By (user no longer on site)
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Is monogamy natural for any primate?
As for monogamy being a constraint, well it depends upon the culture. Many cultures have allowed men to have more than one wife, so "he" certainly isn't monogamous. Look at the history of divorce and again the within cultures: the right to divorce by a wife is relatively new, and some cultures wives have restricted access to divorcing their husbands. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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The plain truth is that neat all men would have more than one sexual partner if given the chance. It's a genetic thing not thee fault of the man. Society and religion over the years have controlled the masses with the idea of one man one woman. The church has always controlled people with the fear of eternal damnation for those who did not follow it's rules in the past. Even old Henry the VIII had to get rid of his wives so he could get another one due to the power of the church LoL. This day and age a lot of people are a bit more switched on to realise what a croc such control is. But it's still in place for some other religions who insist on total control over the masses with the fear of death if they dare to show any free thinking or step outside of what someone else has decided how someone shod live their lives. Natural instinct of the male is to spread his seed as far and wide are he can. |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
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"Depends on yer level of commitment and discipline."
Not really. Aren't commitmment and dicipline society's paradigms? If we did not have society and religion would we naturally be monogamous? |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
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"Is monogamy natural for any primate?
As for monogamy being a constraint, well it depends upon the culture. Many cultures have allowed men to have more than one wife, so "he" certainly isn't monogamous. Look at the history of divorce and again the within cultures: the right to divorce by a wife is relatively new, and some cultures wives have restricted access to divorcing their husbands."
Interesting points. So humans are not naturally monogamous. |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
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"The plain truth is that neat all men would have more than one sexual partner if given the chance. It's a genetic thing not thee fault of the man. Society and religion over the years have controlled the masses with the idea of one man one woman. The church has always controlled people with the fear of eternal damnation for those who did not follow it's rules in the past. Even old Henry the VIII had to get rid of his wives so he could get another one due to the power of the church LoL. This day and age a lot of people are a bit more switched on to realise what a croc such control is. But it's still in place for some other religions who insist on total control over the masses with the fear of death if they dare to show any free thinking or step outside of what someone else has decided how someone shod live their lives. Natural instinct of the male is to spread his seed as far and wide are he can. "
And the natural instincts of the female? |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
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"Some people are happy to be monogamous, some aren't. I'm one of the ones who aren't  "
True but are we all basically polygamous and then constrained by society? |
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By *vsnikkiTV/TS
over a year ago
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"A constraint imposed for tens of thousands of years.
That's not true at all "
Convincing arguments for it in.the following books
Behavioral Ecology by Dawkins and
Ecology:a behavioral study by Krebs |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"The plain truth is that neat all men would have more than one sexual partner if given the chance. It's a genetic thing not thee fault of the man. Society and religion over the years have controlled the masses with the idea of one man one woman. The church has always controlled people with the fear of eternal damnation for those who did not follow it's rules in the past. Even old Henry the VIII had to get rid of his wives so he could get another one due to the power of the church LoL. This day and age a lot of people are a bit more switched on to realise what a croc such control is. But it's still in place for some other religions who insist on total control over the masses with the fear of death if they dare to show any free thinking or step outside of what someone else has decided how someone shod live their lives. Natural instinct of the male is to spread his seed as far and wide are he can.
And the natural instincts of the female?"
The female can only be pregnant once every 9 months or so us there is a limit to how many offspring she can have and at one time, but the male can inseminate10's 1000's of females in his lifetime in nature. The female is more about nurturing the young, it's a basic instinct thing |
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"When I'm in a committed and loving relationship then monogamy is natural and easy for me. "
Yes, me too, I find it much more natural and easier than anything else. I do believe some men feel that way to, at least the ones I've had long relationships with did. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Depends on yer level of commitment and discipline.
Not really. Aren't commitmment and dicipline society's paradigms? If we did not have society and religion would we naturally be monogamous?"
If one is truly free willed, society is irrelevant. Therefore, one is compelled by ones choice , be it monogamy, polygamy or celibacy.
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Depends on yer level of commitment and discipline.
Not really. Aren't commitmment and dicipline society's paradigms? If we did not have society and religion would we naturally be monogamous?
If one is truly free willed, society is irrelevant. Therefore, one is compelled by ones choice , be it monogamy, polygamy or celibacy.
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Hell yeah! |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
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"Depends on yer level of commitment and discipline.
Not really. Aren't commitmment and dicipline society's paradigms? If we did not have society and religion would we naturally be monogamous?
If one is truly free willed, society is irrelevant. Therefore, one is compelled by ones choice , be it monogamy, polygamy or celibacy.
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Very true. I guess those choices will be spread around reasonably equally. But how many are free willed and how many follow society's indoctrination? |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Many humans are naturally monogamous.
Many more are ignoramus
Anyone else you want to insult whilst you are here?  "
What about my statement made you think I was insulting anyone here?
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"Some people are happy to be monogamous, some aren't. I'm one of the ones who aren't
True but are we all basically polygamous and then constrained by society? "
No I don't believe that we are. I think a lot of societies problems stem from the fact that we are unable to allow people to differ from what we perceive to be normal. If people who would like to be polygamous could be that way without censure and monogamists could too there wouldn't be a problem. |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
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"Many humans are naturally monogamous.
Many more are ignoramus
Anyone else you want to insult whilst you are here?
What about my statement made you think I was insulting anyone here?
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You appeared to say that anyone who was not monogamous was an ignoramus and there are many polygamous folk on here who are not ignorant. But on rereading perhaps you did not intend that?  |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Many humans are naturally monogamous.
Many more are ignoramus
Anyone else you want to insult whilst you are here?
What about my statement made you think I was insulting anyone here?
You appeared to say that anyone who was not monogamous was an ignoramus and there are many polygamous folk on here who are not ignorant. But on rereading perhaps you did not intend that? "
Lol you made that assumption though. If I meant it I would clearly state it. However the absence of words is suggestive, I must admit.
What if I meant that anybody who lacked discipline and commitment (in a relationship where swinging is not the fact) is an ignoramus?
Hi, I'm Dan, I'm a mouthy bastard, but NOT a senseless bastard. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"People free to do as they please are free to do as they please so long as it doesnt damage people or/and other relationships. That is my belief!
And ours. Do as you will and harm none."
I wish this was the world we lived in.
"You could fit all the good in the world into a thimble and still have room for both of us!" |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Depends on yer level of commitment and discipline.
Not really. Aren't commitmment and dicipline society's paradigms? If we did not have society and religion would we naturally be monogamous?
If one is truly free willed, society is irrelevant. Therefore, one is compelled by ones choice , be it monogamy, polygamy or celibacy.
Very true. I guess those choices will be spread around reasonably equally. But how many are free willed and how many follow society's indoctrination?"
Viva la revolución! Siempre. |
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"People free to do as they please are free to do as they please so long as it doesnt damage people or/and other relationships. That is my belief!
And ours. Do as you will and harm none.
I wish this was the world we lived in.
"You could fit all the good in the world into a thimble and still have room for both of us!""
I disagree with that. Look around there is good everywhere from the small things such as a stranger lending a helping hand to people taking aid to dangerous places.
A favourite Garrison Keillor quote of mine
" even in a time of elephantine vanity and greed, one never has to look far to see the campfires of gentle people" |
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By *andy_tomMan
over a year ago
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"Is it a natural thing for humans to commit sexually to one partner or is it a constraint imposed by society and religion? "
is the grass greener on the other side of the fence, hell yes , so poped over to take a munch, |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"People free to do as they please are free to do as they please so long as it doesnt damage people or/and other relationships. That is my belief!
And ours. Do as you will and harm none.
I wish this was the world we lived in.
"You could fit all the good in the world into a thimble and still have room for both of us!"
I disagree with that. Look around there is good everywhere from the small things such as a stranger lending a helping hand to people taking aid to dangerous places.
A favourite Garrison Keillor quote of mine
" even in a time of elephantine vanity and greed, one never has to look far to see the campfires of gentle people""
You disagree and agree at the same time 
We've both essentially just said the glass is half empty/half full.
Campfires I agree with. Not as easy to find as you would think. Though I find myself blessed. Today is a time of not onlu vanity and greed, but disease, poverty and slaughter.
Nice quote, I always liked that one. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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People should make their own choices. I come from a culture where people choose for themselves whether they want to have one or more wives but not everyone have more than one wife. I was shocked to find out that it's illegal to have two wives here. I think even women should have the choice of having 2 or more husbands if they choose. Governments love controlling. Most couples are here for that something extra in their relationship but can't do it officially. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Is it a natural thing for humans to commit sexually to one partner or is it a constraint imposed by society and religion?
I believe it's a constraint imposed by society etc x "
absolutely agree
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