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over a year ago
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great question..
im going to disagree as i believe its a genuine psychological disorder and if people were able to be 'crazy' without having mental health issues then i fear help for those who need it might slip under the radar
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By (user no longer on site)
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"another reason not to work or to keep living in the uk for nothing at our cost i suppose "
i know people with mental health issues who work, so thats a bit of a general statement |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"So the hoax bomber has been detained under the mental health act, I'm assuming while he's assessed.
You don't have to be ill to be crazy agree or disagree
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The mha is about assessing risk. In a safe environment.
At least he won't be able to frighten the crap out of everyone.   |
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By *emmefataleWoman
over a year ago
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"great question..
im going to disagree as i believe its a genuine psychological disorder and if people were able to be 'crazy' without having mental health issues then i fear help for those who need it might slip under the radar
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So many people do though, hundreds, if not thousands slip though the radar.
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"So the hoax bomber has been detained under the mental health act, I'm assuming while he's assessed.
You don't have to be ill to be crazy agree or disagree
The mha is about assessing risk. In a safe environment.
At least he won't be able to frighten the crap out of everyone. "
but what's your answer to the question?
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By (user no longer on site)
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"another reason not to work or to keep living in the uk for nothing at our cost i suppose
i know people with mental health issues who work, so thats a bit of a general statement "
And yet we're told there's no longer a stigma attached to mental health |
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"another reason not to work or to keep living in the uk for nothing at our cost i suppose "
so anyone with any disability be that psychological or physical should not be afforded any support by the state..?? |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"another reason not to work or to keep living in the uk for nothing at our cost i suppose "
Have they announced the nationality of the person detained then?
Apologies if ive misinterpreted your post as it's not overly clear |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"another reason not to work or to keep living in the uk for nothing at our cost i suppose
i know people with mental health issues who work, so thats a bit of a general statement
And yet we're told there's no longer a stigma attached to mental health "
There is a massive stigma.jJust look at the use of the word crazy in the opening post  |
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"another reason not to work or to keep living in the uk for nothing at our cost i suppose
i know people with mental health issues who work, so thats a bit of a general statement
And yet we're told there's no longer a stigma attached to mental health
There is a massive stigma.jJust look at the use of the word crazy in the opening post "
there is a reason I used the word crazy and no one has picked up on it yet.
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By (user no longer on site)
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Firstly you have to understand the biology behind the ill,crazy,mentally ill people. What makes a person think,act,say or feel is the brain which is a complex organ |
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and apparently only people who are rich enough to afford a life time (coz guess what mental health issues can last that long not just 6 months out of a year) of private healthcare, Its okay for those people to become mentally ill |
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"and apparently only people who are rich enough to afford a life time (coz guess what mental health issues can last that long not just 6 months out of a year) of private healthcare, Its okay for those people to become mentally ill"
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By (user no longer on site)
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"another reason not to work or to keep living in the uk for nothing at our cost i suppose
i know people with mental health issues who work, so thats a bit of a general statement
And yet we're told there's no longer a stigma attached to mental health
There is a massive stigma.jJust look at the use of the word crazy in the opening post there is a reason I used the word crazy and no one has picked up on it yet.
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I did. The terms are mutually exclusive. There're a lot of mentally well people I would describe as crazy |
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"and apparently only people who are rich enough to afford a life time (coz guess what mental health issues can last that long not just 6 months out of a year) of private healthcare, Its okay for those people to become mentally ill
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why the question mark |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Well don't really see a question. I can neither agree or disagree cos the assessment will decide if he has mental health issues.
I've not asked about him though"
Its not something to generalise about. Some people are crazy but they don't affect others and can function. So that makes them an individual. |
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OK, the reason I used the word crazy was to see your reactions. Even those that don't want stigma attached to mental health saw it as negative.
Crazy can mean all sorts of things from wacky to eccentric, would you describe these people as mentally I'll?
Maybe its the word crazy that has the stigma
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By (user no longer on site)
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Some people have mental health issues some are just plain evil, the amount of killers who claim to have mental health problems when they are caught is unreal, for years they have lived a normal home life, had a family, held down a job, been a valued member of their community but had a side line of killing prostitute's ( that's just an example lol) these people aren't 'crazy' they are level headed calculated killers who choose what they do |
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"and apparently only people who are rich enough to afford a life time (coz guess what mental health issues can last that long not just 6 months out of a year) of private healthcare, Its okay for those people to become mentally ill
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why the question mark"
I can't make sense of what you've said sorry |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"OK, the reason I used the word crazy was to see your reactions. Even those that don't want stigma attached to mental health saw it as negative.
Crazy can mean all sorts of things from wacky to eccentric, would you describe these people as mentally I'll?
Maybe its the word crazy that has the stigma
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i dont necessarily use the word crazy in a negative way, being over the top can be fun when not taken to drastic extremes.
to me it depends on the context |
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"and apparently only people who are rich enough to afford a life time (coz guess what mental health issues can last that long not just 6 months out of a year) of private healthcare, Its okay for those people to become mentally ill
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why the question mark
I can't make sense of what you've said sorry"
There was a post earlier (think like the second one) stating something like "another excuse to sponge off the state and not work (paraphrasing) and it found it quite a classest statement |
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"Some people have mental health issues some are just plain evil, the amount of killers who claim to have mental health problems when they are caught is unreal, for years they have lived a normal home life, had a family, held down a job, been a valued member of their community but had a side line of killing prostitute's ( that's just an example lol) these people aren't 'crazy' they are level headed calculated killers who choose what they do"
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By *emmefataleWoman
over a year ago
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"Some people have mental health issues some are just plain evil, the amount of killers who claim to have mental health problems when they are caught is unreal, for years they have lived a normal home life, had a family, held down a job, been a valued member of their community but had a side line of killing prostitute's ( that's just an example lol) these people aren't 'crazy' they are level headed calculated killers who choose what they do"
Psychopaths who are sociopaths.
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By (user no longer on site)
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"OK, the reason I used the word crazy was to see your reactions. Even those that don't want stigma attached to mental health saw it as negative.
Crazy can mean all sorts of things from wacky to eccentric, would you describe these people as mentally I'll?
Maybe its the word crazy that has the stigma
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I must admit that I was surprised you had used it
I think the context of the word is crucial. I will happily refer to my own 'craziness' when discussing my own mental health but wouldn't when refering yo others.
The fact that the media use it disgusts me. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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If we're using crazy in the context of an unusual personality then, in reference to the hoax bomber,I would say someone who does that would not be a little bit crazy. |
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"another reason not to work or to keep living in the uk for nothing at our cost i suppose
i know people with mental health issues who work, so thats a bit of a general statement "
I have been diagnosed with clinical depression, bi polar disorder and have gone through other periods of mental illness. I have a good, full time job and support myself (and I'm not on any meds). Not everyone with a mental illness is a sponger!!
There is still so little awareness about mental illness these days!
As for the word crazy, I've often used it to describe myself, but not because I have mental health issues, just cos I'm a little off the wall!  |
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By (user no longer on site)
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There are so many simple behavioural disorders that don't affect a man's ability to function or be a part of society, yet they can diminish his sense of responsibility when he has a crazy moment and people can be very cruel to each other and this can lead to such issues, naturally.
It only makes sense to have him assessed before judgement is passed. And after! |
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You don't have to be ill to be stupid or dangerous, that's for sure.
But if they person on board is definitely ill, then it is appropriate that he gets appropriate care - there is a real shortage of good mental health care in this country now. |
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I work in mental health and there most definitely is a stigma attached.
With regards to this particular case how can anyone comment sensibly when the information fed to the press is also questionable?  |
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By (user no longer on site)
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Pardon the pun but a bombshell of a topic, mha is to protect all parties. This person would have fallen into this act due to his rational thought processes
its a huge field and often any illness can be seemed to be an act of selfishness or just plain immaturity however they are ill and don't function in the way we expect folk to act.
i speak with experience . Not me tho !!! |
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"I work in mental health and there most definitely is a stigma attached.
With regards to this particular case how can anyone comment sensibly when the information fed to the press is also questionable? "
Not so much the info fed to the press, but the media itself is always questionable. Sensationalism is money! |
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