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By *nny OP   Man  over a year ago

Glasgow

Police in County Down have warned skinny dippers that they could be placed on the sex offenders register.

Officers said they were "treating this kind of behaviour extremely seriously".

"Two males have had to be reported for indecent exposure as they thought it was a good idea to take all their clothes off to go for a swim - not a good idea," an officer wrote on the PSNI Holywood Facebook page.

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By *ratty_DamselWoman  over a year ago

Greater London

Bloody ridiculous and a total waste of public money. Grrrr

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

I was under the impression taking your clothes off wasn't illegal in Itself.

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By *icecouple561Couple  over a year ago
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East Sussex

is there more to it? If not what on earth are the police up to?

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

If it was in the publics view then i think a Written Caution is in order, I certainly wouldnt want my Grandkids to come across them

Gimp

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By *ittle_brat_evie!!Woman  over a year ago

evesham


"I was under the impression taking your clothes off wasn't illegal in Itself. "

I thought that it depended on the perception of the onlookers. Of they were offended by the nudity then it's an issue.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

There should be special places to go for this I think.

The public, and kids about, not right really.

Her

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

How skinny were they? Bones protruding, lean?

I'd have been far more offended by seeing rolls of fat.

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By *ittle_brat_evie!!Woman  over a year ago

evesham


"There should be special places to go for this I think.

The public, and kids about, not right really.

Her"

But is that because we sexualise nudity?

Being nude doesn't have to rate to something sexual.

(not necessarily my view, just playing devils doodah )

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"There should be special places to go for this I think.

The public, and kids about, not right really.

Her

But is that because we sexualise nudity?

Being nude doesn't have to rate to something sexual.

(not necessarily my view, just playing devils doodah )"

lol yes we do I think,also kids could run home, " there is a pervert" which is not true I know, also frighten them.

Her

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"I was under the impression taking your clothes off wasn't illegal in Itself.

I thought that it depended on the perception of the onlookers. Of they were offended by the nudity then it's an issue. "

I get offended with people just about shagging in full view. You know the ones, tongues down each other's throats at the bus stop, groping each other...the ones where you think 'oh for fecks sake - get a ROOM!!!' They don't go on sex offenders register though. Being naked is natural. After all you come into the world naked.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

Being naked isn't illegal. There would have to be more to be arrested, convicted and placed on the register.

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By *ratty_DamselWoman  over a year ago

Greater London

When someone is offended by seeing someone naked, either about to swim or having just swam I would say that as a society we are literally screwed.

Children learn that nudity is 'wrong' or 'dirty' when in fact it is not at all. Its the most natural thing in the world. Learning when to recognise danger is another skill altogether. .

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Being naked isn't illegal. There would have to be more to be arrested, convicted and placed on the register."

Being Naked in public is illegal, It comes under the public decency act, punishable by a fine and or Imprisonment

Gimp

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By *ratty_DamselWoman  over a year ago

Greater London

Maybe a fab nudist march is needed?

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By *emmefataleWoman  over a year ago

dirtybigbadsgirlville


"Being naked isn't illegal. There would have to be more to be arrested, convicted and placed on the register.

Being Naked in public is illegal, It comes under the public decency act, punishable by a fine and or Imprisonment

Gimp"

I didn't think it was illegal, but is covered under The Sexual Offences Act 2003? Which exposing the genitals mentioned? They can also use section 5 of the Public Order Act 1986. But there is no law that states specifically its illegal to be naked in the UK. That was my understanding of it anyway.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"When someone is offended by seeing someone naked, either about to swim or having just swam I would say that as a society we are literally screwed.

Children learn that nudity is 'wrong' or 'dirty' when in fact it is not at all. Its the most natural thing in the world. Learning when to recognise danger is another skill altogether. . "

But removing the ability for some deviants to excuse themselves and their actions is a positive isn't it?

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

Ooooh, The Sexual Offences Act 2003 brought to you by kind permission, and your taxes, by the Nu Labour party? Twats.

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By *oo hotCouple  over a year ago

North West


"When someone is offended by seeing someone naked, either about to swim or having just swam I would say that as a society we are literally screwed.

Children learn that nudity is 'wrong' or 'dirty' when in fact it is not at all. Its the most natural thing in the world. Learning when to recognise danger is another skill altogether. . "

Well said. But of course what we are doing is blanket issuing the whole nudity issue because a small minority of (normally) men completely lose their self control. In other words laws that subjugate the masses because of a need to control a minority.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

Being naked is not illegal.

Behaving indecently is a different matter.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

My kids came across the naked rambler on Hadrians Wall whilst on a day out with their dad, he had only just been released from his 3rd or 4th 3 month spell in prison for public indecency. my personal opinion, I wasn't happy my kids saw him, however they saw the funny side and he was only naked, walking and minding his own business, because he is a naturist, it wasn't a sexual act or sexual attack which warrants being listed on a sex offender register! it wasn't abusive so in this case of skinny dipping it is taking the nanny state to new extremes. ridiculous

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Being naked isn't illegal. There would have to be more to be arrested, convicted and placed on the register.

Being Naked in public is illegal, It comes under the public decency act, punishable by a fine and or Imprisonment

GimpI didn't think it was illegal, but is covered under The Sexual Offences Act 2003? Which exposing the genitals mentioned? They can also use section 5 of the Public Order Act 1986. But there is no law that states specifically its illegal to be naked in the UK. That was my understanding of it anyway."

I will bow to your knowledge but if it is covered by an act of parliament then it is against the Law.

I'm not saying that a couple of blokes stripping off should be put on the nonces register but an official warning includes a good talking to about common sense and offending others.

and to answer a previous poster yes children are brought up to believe that public nudity is wrong and i agree with it, Far too many disturbed people exposing themselves to Minors or worse for me to be in agreement with freedom of choice or self expression.

Gimp

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Being naked is not illegal.

Behaving indecently is a different matter."

Being exposed and offending others is illegal

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By *icecouple561Couple  over a year ago
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East Sussex


"Being naked is not illegal.

Behaving indecently is a different matter."

To some people just being naked is indecent . We had a similar conversation with a guy on a nudist beach today.

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By *emmefataleWoman  over a year ago

dirtybigbadsgirlville


"Being naked isn't illegal. There would have to be more to be arrested, convicted and placed on the register.

Being Naked in public is illegal, It comes under the public decency act, punishable by a fine and or Imprisonment

GimpI didn't think it was illegal, but is covered under The Sexual Offences Act 2003? Which exposing the genitals mentioned? They can also use section 5 of the Public Order Act 1986. But there is no law that states specifically its illegal to be naked in the UK. That was my understanding of it anyway.

I will bow to your knowledge but if it is covered by an act of parliament then it is against the Law.

I'm not saying that a couple of blokes stripping off should be put on the nonces register but an official warning includes a good talking to about common sense and offending others.

and to answer a previous poster yes children are brought up to believe that public nudity is wrong and i agree with it, Far too many disturbed people exposing themselves to Minors or worse for me to be in agreement with freedom of choice or self expression.

Gimp"

Which is what I said. you said it was illegal to be naked in public , its not! Show me a piece of legislation where its says that. The other Acts cover intend and distress and public order.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

From the CPS - which has a very thorough leaflet for the police on how to deal with public nudity that you can read online if you like...

In the absence of any sexual context and in relation to nudity where the person has no intention to cause alarm or distress it will normally be appropriate to take no action unless members of the public were actually caused harassment, alarm or distress (as opposed to considering the likelihood of this).

In this case such conduct should be regarded as at most amounting to an offence under section 5 of the Public Order Act 1986; and regard needs to be had to the question of whether a prosecution is in the public interest.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

In my line of work I've seen 18 year old girls given 3 years on the sex offenders register for flashing her breasts while d*unk on a saturday night. Potentially her whole career ruined in one silly act!!

While skinny dipping is harmless I know I'd be unhappy if my 5 &7 year olds saw a couple of naked guys in the sea on a Sunday afternoon! There is a time and place

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"From the CPS - which has a very thorough leaflet for the police on how to deal with public nudity that you can read online if you like...

In the absence of any sexual context and in relation to nudity where the person has no intention to cause alarm or distress it will normally be appropriate to take no action unless members of the public were actually caused harassment, alarm or distress (as opposed to considering the likelihood of this).

In this case such conduct should be regarded as at most amounting to an offence under section 5 of the Public Order Act 1986; and regard needs to be had to the question of whether a prosecution is in the public interest."

Here we go again I suppose you will be claiming that you work for them next. Its all very well goggleing something and pasting it but if you don't understand it then its rather pointless.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"From the CPS - which has a very thorough leaflet for the police on how to deal with public nudity that you can read online if you like...

In the absence of any sexual context and in relation to nudity where the person has no intention to cause alarm or distress it will normally be appropriate to take no action unless members of the public were actually caused harassment, alarm or distress (as opposed to considering the likelihood of this).

In this case such conduct should be regarded as at most amounting to an offence under section 5 of the Public Order Act 1986; and regard needs to be had to the question of whether a prosecution is in the public interest."

Right to pick up on what you have just said,Unless members of the public were caused harassment alarm or distress.

If i was with my Grandkids i would be Alarmed.

Gimp

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"In my line of work I've seen 18 year old girls given 3 years on the sex offenders register for flashing her breasts while d*unk on a saturday night. Potentially her whole career ruined in one silly act!!

While skinny dipping is harmless I know I'd be unhappy if my 5 &7 year olds saw a couple of naked guys in the sea on a Sunday afternoon! There is a time and place "

And if a d*unken guy has flashed his cock?

The law has to be seen to be gender impartial it was a foolish thing for her to do.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"From the CPS - which has a very thorough leaflet for the police on how to deal with public nudity that you can read online if you like...

In the absence of any sexual context and in relation to nudity where the person has no intention to cause alarm or distress it will normally be appropriate to take no action unless members of the public were actually caused harassment, alarm or distress (as opposed to considering the likelihood of this).

In this case such conduct should be regarded as at most amounting to an offence under section 5 of the Public Order Act 1986; and regard needs to be had to the question of whether a prosecution is in the public interest.

Here we go again I suppose you will be claiming that you work for them next. Its all very well goggleing something and pasting it but if you don't understand it then its rather pointless. "

It's a quote straight from the Crown Prosecution Service. If you're not happy with it try raising it with them!

Bottom line, being naked in public is NOT illegal. Funnily enough I can't find any details of the 'Public Decency Act', if you can post a link I'd be interested to read.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Being naked isn't illegal. There would have to be more to be arrested, convicted and placed on the register.

Being Naked in public is illegal, It comes under the public decency act, punishable by a fine and or Imprisonment

GimpI didn't think it was illegal, but is covered under The Sexual Offences Act 2003? Which exposing the genitals mentioned? They can also use section 5 of the Public Order Act 1986. But there is no law that states specifically its illegal to be naked in the UK. That was my understanding of it anyway.

I will bow to your knowledge but if it is covered by an act of parliament then it is against the Law.

I'm not saying that a couple of blokes stripping off should be put on the nonces register but an official warning includes a good talking to about common sense and offending others.

and to answer a previous poster yes children are brought up to believe that public nudity is wrong and i agree with it, Far too many disturbed people exposing themselves to Minors or worse for me to be in agreement with freedom of choice or self expression.

GimpWhich is what I said. you said it was illegal to be naked in public , its not! Show me a piece of legislation where its says that. The other Acts cover intend and distress and public order. "

And i said i bow to your Knowledge which means i may have been wrong in the act i quoted and as you pointed out it is covered by at least one other Law.

Gimp

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By *urreyfun2008Man  over a year ago

East Grinstead

While not illegal its one of those open to interpretation things.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"From the CPS - which has a very thorough leaflet for the police on how to deal with public nudity that you can read online if you like...

In the absence of any sexual context and in relation to nudity where the person has no intention to cause alarm or distress it will normally be appropriate to take no action unless members of the public were actually caused harassment, alarm or distress (as opposed to considering the likelihood of this).

In this case such conduct should be regarded as at most amounting to an offence under section 5 of the Public Order Act 1986; and regard needs to be had to the question of whether a prosecution is in the public interest.

Here we go again I suppose you will be claiming that you work for them next. Its all very well goggleing something and pasting it but if you don't understand it then its rather pointless.

It's a quote straight from the Crown Prosecution Service. If you're not happy with it try raising it with them!

Bottom line, being naked in public is NOT illegal. Funnily enough I can't find any details of the 'Public Decency Act', if you can post a link I'd be interested to read."

Bottom line is if it offends the General Public it IS Illegal

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"While not illegal its one of those open to interpretation things.

"

They can throw all sorts of other stuff at you - the naked rambler bloke is usually done for other things, not actually being naked.

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By *emmefataleWoman  over a year ago

dirtybigbadsgirlville


"Being naked isn't illegal. There would have to be more to be arrested, convicted and placed on the register.

Being Naked in public is illegal, It comes under the public decency act, punishable by a fine and or Imprisonment

GimpI didn't think it was illegal, but is covered under The Sexual Offences Act 2003? Which exposing the genitals mentioned? They can also use section 5 of the Public Order Act 1986. But there is no law that states specifically its illegal to be naked in the UK. That was my understanding of it anyway.

I will bow to your knowledge but if it is covered by an act of parliament then it is against the Law.

I'm not saying that a couple of blokes stripping off should be put on the nonces register but an official warning includes a good talking to about common sense and offending others.

and to answer a previous poster yes children are brought up to believe that public nudity is wrong and i agree with it, Far too many disturbed people exposing themselves to Minors or worse for me to be in agreement with freedom of choice or self expression.

GimpWhich is what I said. you said it was illegal to be naked in public , its not! Show me a piece of legislation where its says that. The other Acts cover intend and distress and public order.

And i said i bow to your Knowledge which means i may have been wrong in the act i quoted and as you pointed out it is covered by at least one other Law.

Gimp"

No, you were wrong in the true sense of the word. Its not illegal to be naked in public....

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By *ophieslutTV/TS  over a year ago

Central

One good thing comparing europe generally to the US is our more relaxed attitude to nudity. In mainland europe it is common for men and women to undress together at swimming pools, saunas and other places, plus beaches have semi nudity commonly - not in the Usa. I hope we dont become a nation seeing danger in everything and especially where it isnt. Our police force is down my 10s of thousands so we dont have resources to police stupid trifling incidents. The law of common sense should prevail. And people should be more comfortable with nudity not less.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

I love that people can argue with what has been written by the CPS themselves!

Try reading the full lot:

http://www.cps.gov.uk/legal/l_to_o/nudity_in_public/

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"From the CPS - which has a very thorough leaflet for the police on how to deal with public nudity that you can read online if you like...

In the absence of any sexual context and in relation to nudity where the person has no intention to cause alarm or distress it will normally be appropriate to take no action unless members of the public were actually caused harassment, alarm or distress (as opposed to considering the likelihood of this).

In this case such conduct should be regarded as at most amounting to an offence under section 5 of the Public Order Act 1986; and regard needs to be had to the question of whether a prosecution is in the public interest.

Here we go again I suppose you will be claiming that you work for them next. Its all very well goggleing something and pasting it but if you don't understand it then its rather pointless.

It's a quote straight from the Crown Prosecution Service. If you're not happy with it try raising it with them!

Bottom line, being naked in public is NOT illegal. Funnily enough I can't find any details of the 'Public Decency Act', if you can post a link I'd be interested to read.

Bottom line is if it offends the General Public it IS Illegal"

Its not that simplistic there are many more factors involved saying things that are not correct doesn't make it true.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

If nudity in public was illegal then how am i to shower at the gym?

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"

If nudity in public was illegal then how am i to shower at the gym?

"

spose i could keep my socks on.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"In my line of work I've seen 18 year old girls given 3 years on the sex offenders register for flashing her breasts while d*unk on a saturday night. Potentially her whole career ruined in one silly act!!

While skinny dipping is harmless I know I'd be unhappy if my 5 &7 year olds saw a couple of naked guys in the sea on a Sunday afternoon! There is a time and place

And if a d*unken guy has flashed his cock?

The law has to be seen to be gender impartial it was a foolish thing for her to do. "

I quite agree, I've only recently finished working with a guy who was placed on the register for having a pee on a shop doorway at 2 am, obviously exposing himself.

My point is that I don't believe it warrants registration as a sex offender. That title is one of he most harmful anyone can be labelled as people will usually assume only paedophile and rapists are on he register.

I believe that skinny dipping in times and places that may cause distress to vulnerable people should be punishable but i don't agree they should be placed on the sex ofender register.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Being naked isn't illegal. There would have to be more to be arrested, convicted and placed on the register.

Being Naked in public is illegal, It comes under the public decency act, punishable by a fine and or Imprisonment

GimpI didn't think it was illegal, but is covered under The Sexual Offences Act 2003? Which exposing the genitals mentioned? They can also use section 5 of the Public Order Act 1986. But there is no law that states specifically its illegal to be naked in the UK. That was my understanding of it anyway.

I will bow to your knowledge but if it is covered by an act of parliament then it is against the Law.

I'm not saying that a couple of blokes stripping off should be put on the nonces register but an official warning includes a good talking to about common sense and offending others.

and to answer a previous poster yes children are brought up to believe that public nudity is wrong and i agree with it, Far too many disturbed people exposing themselves to Minors or worse for me to be in agreement with freedom of choice or self expression.

GimpWhich is what I said. you said it was illegal to be naked in public , its not! Show me a piece of legislation where its says that. The other Acts cover intend and distress and public order.

And i said i bow to your Knowledge which means i may have been wrong in the act i quoted and as you pointed out it is covered by at least one other Law.

GimpNo, you were wrong in the true sense of the word. Its not illegal to be naked in public...."

Blimey how many times should i have my nose in it, are you SURE we havnt been married

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"From the CPS - which has a very thorough leaflet for the police on how to deal with public nudity that you can read online if you like...

In the absence of any sexual context and in relation to nudity where the person has no intention to cause alarm or distress it will normally be appropriate to take no action unless members of the public were actually caused harassment, alarm or distress (as opposed to considering the likelihood of this).

In this case such conduct should be regarded as at most amounting to an offence under section 5 of the Public Order Act 1986; and regard needs to be had to the question of whether a prosecution is in the public interest.

Here we go again I suppose you will be claiming that you work for them next. Its all very well goggleing something and pasting it but if you don't understand it then its rather pointless.

It's a quote straight from the Crown Prosecution Service. If you're not happy with it try raising it with them!

Bottom line, being naked in public is NOT illegal. Funnily enough I can't find any details of the 'Public Decency Act', if you can post a link I'd be interested to read.

Bottom line is if it offends the General Public it IS Illegal

Its not that simplistic there are many more factors involved saying things that are not correct doesn't make it true. "

Do you didn't read it? Or are they wrong?!

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By *lackbirdtimestwoWoman  over a year ago

birmingham


"There should be special places to go for this I think.

The public, and kids about, not right really.

Her

But is that because we sexualise nudity?

Being nude doesn't have to rate to something sexual.

(not necessarily my view, just playing devils doodah )"

I completely agree the same people that get offended by a naked body would get offended by a breast feeding mother,,,, a naked body doesn't mean sex,,, doesn't have to be sexualised, I'd go as far to say it's prudish,,

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"In my line of work I've seen 18 year old girls given 3 years on the sex offenders register for flashing her breasts while d*unk on a saturday night. Potentially her whole career ruined in one silly act!!

While skinny dipping is harmless I know I'd be unhappy if my 5 &7 year olds saw a couple of naked guys in the sea on a Sunday afternoon! There is a time and place

And if a d*unken guy has flashed his cock?

The law has to be seen to be gender impartial it was a foolish thing for her to do.

I quite agree, I've only recently finished working with a guy who was placed on the register for having a pee on a shop doorway at 2 am, obviously exposing himself.

My point is that I don't believe it warrants registration as a sex offender. That title is one of he most harmful anyone can be labelled as people will usually assume only paedophile and rapists are on he register.

I believe that skinny dipping in times and places that may cause distress to vulnerable people should be punishable but i don't agree they should be placed on the sex ofender register."

The law is the way it is to prevent loopholes its not ideal but if it stops a serious offender wiggling out then sadly for the idiots its a lesson learnt.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"

If nudity in public was illegal then how am i to shower at the gym?

"

Very quickly and no lathering

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"From the CPS - which has a very thorough leaflet for the police on how to deal with public nudity that you can read online if you like...

In the absence of any sexual context and in relation to nudity where the person has no intention to cause alarm or distress it will normally be appropriate to take no action unless members of the public were actually caused harassment, alarm or distress (as opposed to considering the likelihood of this).

In this case such conduct should be regarded as at most amounting to an offence under section 5 of the Public Order Act 1986; and regard needs to be had to the question of whether a prosecution is in the public interest.

Right to pick up on what you have just said,Unless members of the public were caused harassment alarm or distress.

If i was with my Grandkids i would be Alarmed.

Gimp"

I'd have to read the relevant section of the act to double check but usually in British law it comes down to intent. It's not whether you where offended, it matters whether the person intended to cause you offense, distress, or alarm.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"While not illegal its one of those open to interpretation things.

They can throw all sorts of other stuff at you - the naked rambler bloke is usually done for other things, not actually being naked."

And he ISNT on the list (yet)

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"From the CPS - which has a very thorough leaflet for the police on how to deal with public nudity that you can read online if you like...

In the absence of any sexual context and in relation to nudity where the person has no intention to cause alarm or distress it will normally be appropriate to take no action unless members of the public were actually caused harassment, alarm or distress (as opposed to considering the likelihood of this).

In this case such conduct should be regarded as at most amounting to an offence under section 5 of the Public Order Act 1986; and regard needs to be had to the question of whether a prosecution is in the public interest.

Here we go again I suppose you will be claiming that you work for them next. Its all very well goggleing something and pasting it but if you don't understand it then its rather pointless.

It's a quote straight from the Crown Prosecution Service. If you're not happy with it try raising it with them!

Bottom line, being naked in public is NOT illegal. Funnily enough I can't find any details of the 'Public Decency Act', if you can post a link I'd be interested to read.

Bottom line is if it offends the General Public it IS Illegal

Its not that simplistic there are many more factors involved saying things that are not correct doesn't make it true.

Do you didn't read it? Or are they wrong?!"

That makes no seance but I guess it fits in with the majority of things you type.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"There should be special places to go for this I think.

The public, and kids about, not right really.

Her

But is that because we sexualise nudity?

Being nude doesn't have to rate to something sexual.

(not necessarily my view, just playing devils doodah )

I completely agree the same people that get offended by a naked body would get offended by a breast feeding mother,,,, a naked body doesn't mean sex,,, doesn't have to be sexualised, I'd go as far to say it's prudish,, "

its prudish until you have some random bloke standing at the School gate with his knob out

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

It does make you wonder what agenda the Police work to.

Only the other day, there was a story about "youth" sexting pictures to each other, and then some, that were illegal under current law. AFAIK a strict liability offence.

Yet the Police didn't seem willing to pass the investigation onto the CP for prosecution.

Yet they'll take (blanket) action against naked swimmers?

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"There should be special places to go for this I think.

The public, and kids about, not right really.

Her

But is that because we sexualise nudity?

Being nude doesn't have to rate to something sexual.

(not necessarily my view, just playing devils doodah )

I completely agree the same people that get offended by a naked body would get offended by a breast feeding mother,,,, a naked body doesn't mean sex,,, doesn't have to be sexualised, I'd go as far to say it's prudish,,

its prudish until you have some random bloke standing at the School gate with his knob out"

Thats not being naked thats exposure in an area populated with young children you need to stop being dramatic and read the thread its nothing to do with skinny dipping.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"That makes no seance but I guess it fits in with the majority of things you type. "

See what you mean, it didn't make any 'seance' did it?!

I merely suggested you might like to read the published guidance issued by the Crown Prosecution Service on the very matters you apparently know a great deal more about than they do. I'm sure they would be very grateful if you could email them with details of all the bits they have got wrong and you would be doing a marvellous service to us all.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

Anyway, isn't there a better use of police resources than to waste time making diary entries on Facebook?

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"That makes no seance but I guess it fits in with the majority of things you type.

See what you mean, it didn't make any 'seance' did it?!

I merely suggested you might like to read the published guidance issued by the Crown Prosecution Service on the very matters you apparently know a great deal more about than they do. I'm sure they would be very grateful if you could email them with details of all the bits they have got wrong and you would be doing a marvellous service to us all."

Are you sure you are a teacher? Its just if you were teaching a my child I would be worried about what he was learning.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"That makes no seance but I guess it fits in with the majority of things you type.

See what you mean, it didn't make any 'seance' did it?!

I merely suggested you might like to read the published guidance issued by the Crown Prosecution Service on the very matters you apparently know a great deal more about than they do. I'm sure they would be very grateful if you could email them with details of all the bits they have got wrong and you would be doing a marvellous service to us all.

Are you sure you are a teacher? Its just if you were teaching a my child I would be worried about what he was learning. "

I'm quite sure I'm not a teacher and haven't been for some while. What the fuck that has to do with this discussion I'm interested to learn.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"That makes no seance but I guess it fits in with the majority of things you type.

See what you mean, it didn't make any 'seance' did it?!

I merely suggested you might like to read the published guidance issued by the Crown Prosecution Service on the very matters you apparently know a great deal more about than they do. I'm sure they would be very grateful if you could email them with details of all the bits they have got wrong and you would be doing a marvellous service to us all.

Are you sure you are a teacher? Its just if you were teaching a my child I would be worried about what he was learning.

I'm quite sure I'm not a teacher and haven't been for some while. What the fuck that has to do with this discussion I'm interested to learn."

You just pretend don't you sweetie

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"That makes no seance but I guess it fits in with the majority of things you type.

See what you mean, it didn't make any 'seance' did it?!

I merely suggested you might like to read the published guidance issued by the Crown Prosecution Service on the very matters you apparently know a great deal more about than they do. I'm sure they would be very grateful if you could email them with details of all the bits they have got wrong and you would be doing a marvellous service to us all.

Are you sure you are a teacher? Its just if you were teaching a my child I would be worried about what he was learning.

I'm quite sure I'm not a teacher and haven't been for some while. What the fuck that has to do with this discussion I'm interested to learn."

Ah so when you were jumping up and down on the teachers thread the other week claiming you were its all tosh then! Thank fuck for that!

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"You just pretend don't you sweetie "

As the saying goes the problem with arguing with an idiot is that from a distance it's impossible to distinguish the idiot.

I'll therefore leave you and your trailing poodle to continue thinking how clever you are despite the evidence above.

Good night

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By *oodmessMan  over a year ago

yumsville


"There should be special places to go for this I think.

The public, and kids about, not right really.

Her

But is that because we sexualise nudity?

Being nude doesn't have to rate to something sexual.

(not necessarily my view, just playing devils doodah )

I completely agree the same people that get offended by a naked body would get offended by a breast feeding mother,,,, a naked body doesn't mean sex,,, doesn't have to be sexualised, I'd go as far to say it's prudish,,

its prudish until you have some random bloke standing at the School gate with his knob out

Thats not being naked thats exposure in an area populated with young children you need to stop being dramatic and read the thread its nothing to do with skinny dipping. "

But it does as it emphasises that what is written above.

If intent is proven where the aim is to distress, alarm or create offence.

A beach is a little bit of a different situation to a school isn't it.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

I do not find this prudish, far from it, but if kids ect were to see it.

Feeding a baby in public, the baby has to be fed.

Anyone running about with all there bits out in front of people of the public, is far different.

I have a park nearby with a lake, if your kids, family were there, and it was happening, be honest, what would you say?

Her

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

I don't understand why it is a problem for someone to cut and paste information that is written in fact by the government to share with others for the purpose of this thread. I think one particular poster does actually live in Disneyland! lol. I hate to see people singled out to satisfy the bitchy needs of others! ffs not only that, my previous job included dealing with criminal law and everyone would do well to refer to the criminal law acts when needed to, it may save legal costs lol because there are many loop holes

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"I do not find this prudish, far from it, but if kids ect were to see it.

Feeding a baby in public, the baby has to be fed.

Anyone running about with all there bits out in front of people of the public, is far different.

I have a park nearby with a lake, if your kids, family were there, and it was happening, be honest, what would you say?

Her"

Such as the Germans, probably also the Scandinavians, cope very well with this, unless they have a timebomb of potenntial perverts, sex crims on their hands.

Anyone know if other European countries take such disproportionate measures as the Uk Police and authorities do. Such as being on a sex offenders register for pissing in a doorway at 2am?

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By *oodmessMan  over a year ago

yumsville

"Montecristo! Man 1 minute ago!

Huddersfield

"You just pretend don't you sweetie

As the saying goes the problem with arguing with an idiot is that from a distance it's impossible to distinguish the idiot.

I'll therefore leave you and your trailing poodle to continue thinking how clever you are despite the evidence above.

Good night "

Nope your pretty easy to spot! Even with cataracts I wouldn't have a problem"

I bet that one would have really hurt him lol

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"You just pretend don't you sweetie

As the saying goes the problem with arguing with an idiot is that from a distance it's impossible to distinguish the idiot.

I'll therefore leave you and your trailing poodle to continue thinking how clever you are despite the evidence above.

Good night "

No you are easy to spot even a gran with cataracts would point you out so for the rest of us its extremely easy.

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By *oodmessMan  over a year ago

yumsville


"You just pretend don't you sweetie

As the saying goes the problem with arguing with an idiot is that from a distance it's impossible to distinguish the idiot.

I'll therefore leave you and your trailing poodle to continue thinking how clever you are despite the evidence above.

Good night

No you are easy to spot even a gran with cataracts would point you out so for the rest of us its extremely easy."

that one definitely nailed it!

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

My issue is not whether being nude in public is an offence or not, but whether it warrants sex offender registration. A man exposing himself at a school for pleasure is a lot different to a group of people skinny dipping on a hot day. One is carried out with sexual motivation one is not. so why would they be bundles together as sex offenders?

I try and get offenders back into the workplace daily, it's my job. I see the damage being placed on the register can have. When most people hear sex offenders register they assume that person is a "nonce" etc. Yet there was possibly no sexual motivation behind it whatsoever.

Bring nude doesn't necessarily have to be a sexual act, but it can be upsetting and distressing for vulnerable people.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"You just pretend don't you sweetie

As the saying goes the problem with arguing with an idiot is that from a distance it's impossible to distinguish the idiot.

I'll therefore leave you and your trailing poodle to continue thinking how clever you are despite the evidence above.

Good night

No you are easy to spot even a gran with cataracts would point you out so for the rest of us its extremely easy.

that one definitely nailed it! "

Its my cataracts Though I do laugh when you get someone ho throws a paddy and tries to insult people you don't really need to ad more just watch the hole being dug.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"There should be special places to go for this I think.

The public, and kids about, not right really.

Her

But is that because we sexualise nudity?

Being nude doesn't have to rate to something sexual.

(not necessarily my view, just playing devils doodah )

I completely agree the same people that get offended by a naked body would get offended by a breast feeding mother,,,, a naked body doesn't mean sex,,, doesn't have to be sexualised, I'd go as far to say it's prudish,,

its prudish until you have some random bloke standing at the School gate with his knob out

Thats not being naked thats exposure in an area populated with young children you need to stop being dramatic and read the thread its nothing to do with skinny dipping. "

the Difference between exposure and naked is ? And as i said previously if i came across two blokes exposed while my littluns were present whether it be in the street or park i would be annoyed and offended, I dont think thats Dramatic at all just protective of Children and i will never apologize for that to anybody

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"My issue is not whether being nude in public is an offence or not, but whether it warrants sex offender registration. A man exposing himself at a school for pleasure is a lot different to a group of people skinny dipping on a hot day. One is carried out with sexual motivation one is not. so why would they be bundles together as sex offenders?

I try and get offenders back into the workplace daily, it's my job. I see the damage being placed on the register can have. When most people hear sex offenders register they assume that person is a "nonce" etc. Yet there was possibly no sexual motivation behind it whatsoever.

Bring nude doesn't necessarily have to be a sexual act, but it can be upsetting and distressing for vulnerable people. "

Its very different in reality but there are other circumstances in-between the two that are not so clear cut. Legislation tends to be black and white as is the guilty or not verdict you don't get a little bit guilty or a fair bit innocent.

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By *nny OP   Man  over a year ago

Glasgow

It's worth mentioning that the much quoted CPS has no authority in Northern Ireland.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"It's worth mentioning that the much quoted CPS has no authority in Northern Ireland."

Bandit country there!

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"There should be special places to go for this I think.

The public, and kids about, not right really.

Her

But is that because we sexualise nudity?

Being nude doesn't have to rate to something sexual.

(not necessarily my view, just playing devils doodah )

I completely agree the same people that get offended by a naked body would get offended by a breast feeding mother,,,, a naked body doesn't mean sex,,, doesn't have to be sexualised, I'd go as far to say it's prudish,,

its prudish until you have some random bloke standing at the School gate with his knob out

Thats not being naked thats exposure in an area populated with young children you need to stop being dramatic and read the thread its nothing to do with skinny dipping.

the Difference between exposure and naked is ? And as i said previously if i came across two blokes exposed while my littluns were present whether it be in the street or park i would be annoyed and offended, I dont think thats Dramatic at all just protective of Children and i will never apologize for that to anybody"

All those kids killed in Japan by the A-bomb appalling wow!

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

Aww my Stalkers after me again, Ive missed you so much come to papa

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Aww my Stalkers after me again, Ive missed you so much come to papa "

That sounds so dodgy you will be offering sweets or to see puppys next!

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

Only sounds Dodgy if its already in the mind.

has the mrs gone to bed

Gimp

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Only sounds Dodgy if its already in the mind.

has the mrs gone to bed

Gimp"

You really don't like a guy who is intelligent and catches you out do you. It obviously unnerves you big time.

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By *onConformistLikeUMan  over a year ago

Chorley

A few years ago a guy got stopped by the police for riding his motorbike nude. (except for his crash helmet). From what I've been told, and this may just be a stupid urban legend, he wasn't committing an offence because the bike was reasonably obscuring the offending areas. He was asked to get off the bike by the police but refused as this would have resulted in him committing an offence and they had to let him go on his way.

I really don't fancy testing the legitimacy of this story personally but let me know how you get on if you do.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"A few years ago a guy got stopped by the police for riding his motorbike nude. (except for his crash helmet). From what I've been told, and this may just be a stupid urban legend, he wasn't committing an offence because the bike was reasonably obscuring the offending areas. He was asked to get off the bike by the police but refused as this would have resulted in him committing an offence and they had to let him go on his way.

I really don't fancy testing the legitimacy of this story personally but let me know how you get on if you do."

Just imagine if you came off and rode the tarmac face down full body contact! Nope I wouldn't risk it either

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Only sounds Dodgy if its already in the mind.

has the mrs gone to bed

Gimp

You really don't like a guy who is intelligent and catches you out do you. It obviously unnerves you big time. "

I will let you know when i find one, Thanks for the keen interest though, I'm Flattered.

Gimp

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"

Bandit country there! "

I was enjoying reading this debate, albeit heated, until this comment. It adds nothing to the debate and merely insults the vast majority of people in the north of ireland. It may be your perception or view and I wont even try to change it as you're welcome to it but will say it is somewhat distorted and very much out of date! I won't tender my view on England so as other contributors can we stick to the subject matter being debated without side swings and insults.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"

Bandit country there!

I was enjoying reading this debate, albeit heated, until this comment. It adds nothing to the debate and merely insults the vast majority of people in the north of ireland. It may be your perception or view and I wont even try to change it as you're welcome to it but will say it is somewhat distorted and very much out of date! I won't tender my view on England so as other contributors can we stick to the subject matter being debated without side swings and insults. "

And you assume I am English! And it is bandit country in many parts still want a list of my relatives buried due to it? Maybe you should pull your neck in stop being prissy and face reality.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"

Bandit country there!

I was enjoying reading this debate, albeit heated, until this comment. It adds nothing to the debate and merely insults the vast majority of people in the north of ireland. It may be your perception or view and I wont even try to change it as you're welcome to it but will say it is somewhat distorted and very much out of date! I won't tender my view on England so as other contributors can we stick to the subject matter being debated without side swings and insults.

And you assume I am English! And it is bandit country in many parts still want a list of my relatives buried due to it? Maybe you should pull your neck in stop being prissy and face reality."

Still adding nothing to the subject matter I see!

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"

Bandit country there!

I was enjoying reading this debate, albeit heated, until this comment. It adds nothing to the debate and merely insults the vast majority of people in the north of ireland. It may be your perception or view and I wont even try to change it as you're welcome to it but will say it is somewhat distorted and very much out of date! I won't tender my view on England so as other contributors can we stick to the subject matter being debated without side swings and insults.

And you assume I am English! And it is bandit country in many parts still want a list of my relatives buried due to it? Maybe you should pull your neck in stop being prissy and face reality.

Still adding nothing to the subject matter I see!"

Actually I don't see you have added anything in either posts to the subject matter in question but come enlighten me tell me what you have added because as I see it its sweet FA. There's a challenge for you!

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"

Bandit country there!

I was enjoying reading this debate, albeit heated, until this comment. It adds nothing to the debate and merely insults the vast majority of people in the north of ireland. It may be your perception or view and I wont even try to change it as you're welcome to it but will say it is somewhat distorted and very much out of date! I won't tender my view on England so as other contributors can we stick to the subject matter being debated without side swings and insults.

And you assume I am English! And it is bandit country in many parts still want a list of my relatives buried due to it? Maybe you should pull your neck in stop being prissy and face reality.

Still adding nothing to the subject matter I see!

Actually I don't see you have added anything in either posts to the subject matter in question but come enlighten me tell me what you have added because as I see it its sweet FA. There's a challenge for you! "

I can't add to the debate as I don't have any knowledge of the laws being discussed. In fact if am honest I was actually learning something as I read the posts that were directly relevant to the discussion. Unfortunately, your post was neither informative nor relevant.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

[Removed by poster at 25/07/14 01:30:25]

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"

Bandit country there!

I was enjoying reading this debate, albeit heated, until this comment. It adds nothing to the debate and merely insults the vast majority of people in the north of ireland. It may be your perception or view and I wont even try to change it as you're welcome to it but will say it is somewhat distorted and very much out of date! I won't tender my view on England so as other contributors can we stick to the subject matter being debated without side swings and insults.

And you assume I am English! And it is bandit country in many parts still want a list of my relatives buried due to it? Maybe you should pull your neck in stop being prissy and face reality.

Still adding nothing to the subject matter I see!

Actually I don't see you have added anything in either posts to the subject matter in question but come enlighten me tell me what you have added because as I see it its sweet FA. There's a challenge for you!

I can't add to the debate as I don't have any knowledge of the laws being discussed. In fact if am honest I was actually learning something as I read the posts that were directly relevant to the discussion. Unfortunately, your post was neither informative nor relevant."

Then maybe you should actually follow your own advice its rather farcical to do exactly what you are moaning about as you failed to "stick to the subject matter"! Its pretty sad really! It really is.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"

Bandit country there!

I was enjoying reading this debate, albeit heated, until this comment. It adds nothing to the debate and merely insults the vast majority of people in the north of ireland. It may be your perception or view and I wont even try to change it as you're welcome to it but will say it is somewhat distorted and very much out of date! I won't tender my view on England so as other contributors can we stick to the subject matter being debated without side swings and insults.

And you assume I am English! And it is bandit country in many parts still want a list of my relatives buried due to it? Maybe you should pull your neck in stop being prissy and face reality.

Still adding nothing to the subject matter I see!

Actually I don't see you have added anything in either posts to the subject matter in question but come enlighten me tell me what you have added because as I see it its sweet FA. There's a challenge for you!

I can't add to the debate as I don't have any knowledge of the laws being discussed. In fact if am honest I was actually learning something as I read the posts that were directly relevant to the discussion. Unfortunately, your post was neither informative nor relevant.

Then maybe you should actually follow your own advice its rather farcical to do exactly what you are moaning about as you failed to "stick to the subject matter"! Its pretty sad really! It really is. "

All I was doing was commenting on your misplaced comment. We can agree to disagree so as to allow the main discussion to continue as its obvious we will never agree.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"

Bandit country there!

I was enjoying reading this debate, albeit heated, until this comment. It adds nothing to the debate and merely insults the vast majority of people in the north of ireland. It may be your perception or view and I wont even try to change it as you're welcome to it but will say it is somewhat distorted and very much out of date! I won't tender my view on England so as other contributors can we stick to the subject matter being debated without side swings and insults.

And you assume I am English! And it is bandit country in many parts still want a list of my relatives buried due to it? Maybe you should pull your neck in stop being prissy and face reality.

Still adding nothing to the subject matter I see!

Actually I don't see you have added anything in either posts to the subject matter in question but come enlighten me tell me what you have added because as I see it its sweet FA. There's a challenge for you!

I can't add to the debate as I don't have any knowledge of the laws being discussed. In fact if am honest I was actually learning something as I read the posts that were directly relevant to the discussion. Unfortunately, your post was neither informative nor relevant.

Then maybe you should actually follow your own advice its rather farcical to do exactly what you are moaning about as you failed to "stick to the subject matter"! Its pretty sad really! It really is. All I was doing was commenting on your misplaced comment. We can agree to disagree so as to allow the main discussion to continue as its obvious we will never agree."

Errr your words "stick to the subject matter" which you didn't which according to the dictionary makes you a hypocrite and a large one at that! You really shouldn't post things telling people what to do that you clearly cannot adhere to yourself it is incredibly foolish!

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"A few years ago a guy got stopped by the police for riding his motorbike nude. (except for his crash helmet). From what I've been told, and this may just be a stupid urban legend, he wasn't committing an offence because the bike was reasonably obscuring the offending areas. He was asked to get off the bike by the police but refused as this would have resulted in him committing an offence and they had to let him go on his way.

I really don't fancy testing the legitimacy of this story personally but let me know how you get on if you do."

Stop on the bike at all costs!

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

Shane to see a debate/discussion turn into a school yard squabble (ducks for cover! )

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Shane to see a debate/discussion turn into a school yard squabble (ducks for cover! ) "

You always get one divvy coming telling people what to do then going loopy and trying to contact someone who has blocked them funny though.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Shane to see a debate/discussion turn into a school yard squabble (ducks for cover! ) "

It was but people get pedantic and try and tell you what you should or shouldn't post. The majority of topics stray at times and then drift back the ones that don't die off quickly. The sex offenders register is an emotive subject but there is no limit to how many people can post on it or any other subject.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

I know I won't be skinny dipping again. Its got me wondering though if a woman can get done for being topless if she has her bottoms on its not equality as guys can do it.

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By *ust RachelTV/TS  over a year ago

Horsham

Topless sunbathing is acceptable as long as no one complains, as for skinny dipping someone somewhere will complain about it at some point in time.

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By *alandNitaCouple  over a year ago

Scunthorpe


"Maybe a fab nudist march is needed? "

We organise it quickly whilst the weather is nice, I don't want to be marching naked in the rain

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

Ok not read every post on this thread but can someone explain why then everyone who does the naked bike ride in London is not arrested and placed on register?

As recent converts to naturism we love it.

If people decided to bring kids into nudist area, which they do and baffles me why, I discreetly cover myself with a towel till family has passed. Don't skinny dip as don't want my knob stung by jellyfish.

We will keep doing it in designated area's and following etiquette.

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By *oo hotCouple  over a year ago

North West


"There should be special places to go for this I think.

The public, and kids about, not right really.

Her

But is that because we sexualise nudity?

Being nude doesn't have to rate to something sexual.

(not necessarily my view, just playing devils doodah )

I completely agree the same people that get offended by a naked body would get offended by a breast feeding mother,,,, a naked body doesn't mean sex,,, doesn't have to be sexualised, I'd go as far to say it's prudish,,

its prudish until you have some random bloke standing at the School gate with his knob out

Thats not being naked thats exposure in an area populated with young children you need to stop being dramatic and read the thread its nothing to do with skinny dipping.

the Difference between exposure and naked is ? And as i said previously if i came across two blokes exposed while my littluns were present whether it be in the street or park i would be annoyed and offended, I dont think thats Dramatic at all just protective of Children and i will never apologize for that to anybody"

And in doing so, you are continuing this very English obsession of connecting nudity to sex. As a country we all need to mature a little and accept that nudity is normal because the human body in all its forms is normal. We don't need further generations of people growing up suppressed and full of angst, fearful of their own and other people's bodies.

We should be educating the young the difference between nudity and sexuality, that would be a good start.

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By *ittle_brat_evie!!Woman  over a year ago

evesham


"There should be special places to go for this I think.

The public, and kids about, not right really.

Her

But is that because we sexualise nudity?

Being nude doesn't have to rate to something sexual.

(not necessarily my view, just playing devils doodah )

I completely agree the same people that get offended by a naked body would get offended by a breast feeding mother,,,, a naked body doesn't mean sex,,, doesn't have to be sexualised, I'd go as far to say it's prudish,,

its prudish until you have some random bloke standing at the School gate with his knob out

Thats not being naked thats exposure in an area populated with young children you need to stop being dramatic and read the thread its nothing to do with skinny dipping.

the Difference between exposure and naked is ? And as i said previously if i came across two blokes exposed while my littluns were present whether it be in the street or park i would be annoyed and offended, I dont think thats Dramatic at all just protective of Children and i will never apologize for that to anybody"

The difference between.being naked and exposure is the intent. People that expose themselves want to cause shock and offence. People who enjoy being naked don't.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"There should be special places to go for this I think.

The public, and kids about, not right really.

Her

But is that because we sexualise nudity?

Being nude doesn't have to rate to something sexual.

(not necessarily my view, just playing devils doodah )

I completely agree the same people that get offended by a naked body would get offended by a breast feeding mother,,,, a naked body doesn't mean sex,,, doesn't have to be sexualised, I'd go as far to say it's prudish,,

its prudish until you have some random bloke standing at the School gate with his knob out

Thats not being naked thats exposure in an area populated with young children you need to stop being dramatic and read the thread its nothing to do with skinny dipping.

the Difference between exposure and naked is ? And as i said previously if i came across two blokes exposed while my littluns were present whether it be in the street or park i would be annoyed and offended, I dont think thats Dramatic at all just protective of Children and i will never apologize for that to anybody

And in doing so, you are continuing this very English obsession of connecting nudity to sex. As a country we all need to mature a little and accept that nudity is normal because the human body in all its forms is normal. We don't need further generations of people growing up suppressed and full of angst, fearful of their own and other people's bodies.

We should be educating the young the difference between nudity and sexuality, that would be a good start."

Quite a bit of assumption on my attitude towards Naturists, Nakedness and sex going on there.

Gimp

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By *awty MaxWoman  over a year ago

Edinburgh


" I certainly wouldnt want my Grandkids to come across them

Gimp"

We were walking the dog couple days ago, one late afternoon and saw 3 off them aged 20/25 in and out the water. The area wasn't that busy but still. We just ignored them.

However, a few minutes later we met a couple with a wee 4 or 5 years old girl.

So I discreetly spoke to the man and warned him of them and told him to may be walk ahead and see.

It was a public area, very well known for being used by parents with kids and dog walkers.

Not something to do in an area they defo knew is used by parents with children.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


" I certainly wouldnt want my Grandkids to come across them

Gimp

We were walking the dog couple days ago, one late afternoon and saw 3 off them aged 20/25 in and out the water. The area wasn't that busy but still. We just ignored them.

However, a few minutes later we met a couple with a wee 4 or 5 years old girl.

So I discreetly spoke to the man and warned him of them and told him to may be walk ahead and see.

It was a public area, very well known for being used by parents with kids and dog walkers.

Not something to do in an area they defo knew is used by parents with children.

"

The point i was trying to make at the very beginning before it went crazy lol.

Gimp

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

I often think that the tribal societies that don't view nudity as offensive, even to their children are actually more civilised in that regard, but that is not the culture we live in and rules have to be maintained for the prevailing consensus. Still, Skinny dipping is not sex offending. Those guys are just thick and should have found a more private place to rule break

~Sea

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

Well I had been warned and they're certainly living up to apparent reputations, but apologies for allowing the discussion to get sidetracked.

I do indeed work in education, am a former teacher and enjoy occasional naturist holidays (not in this country) but I see no relevance to this. Naturists are not perverts, some are kinky, some are really quite prudish, just normal people.

The links to the CPS guidance are also on the British Naturist site where they are the subject of debate between the seemingly sensible guidance issued by the CPS and the disparity between the guidance and the actual actions of the police.

Considering how some, even on here, jump to the conclusion that nudity equals perversity then it's perhaps not so surprising the police tend to over react sometimes.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Well I had been warned and they're certainly living up to apparent reputations, but apologies for allowing the discussion to get sidetracked.

I do indeed work in education, am a former teacher and enjoy occasional naturist holidays (not in this country) but I see no relevance to this. Naturists are not perverts, some are kinky, some are really quite prudish, just normal people.

The links to the CPS guidance are also on the British Naturist site where they are the subject of debate between the seemingly sensible guidance issued by the CPS and the disparity between the guidance and the actual actions of the police.

Considering how some, even on here, jump to the conclusion that nudity equals perversity then it's perhaps not so surprising the police tend to over react sometimes."

The disparity in application may simply come down to basic tenets in law. If you read my previous post, unless the law is 'strict liability' then it Hines on the intent of the person committing the act. It's not just that someone was alarmed or distressed but that the person intended to cause such. There's also a test to gauge whether a reasonable person could know that they would cause someone distress by their actions and chose to do it anyway. If, for example, the was an infrequently used cool stream in the woods and a couple went skinny dipping and a family also chose to go there and were offended then the skinny dippers had a reasonable expectation to privacy and likely wouldn't be charged no matter how much the parents were alarmed or offended. If, however, they're dipping into a public fountain in a city Centre there is no expectation of privacy and they could reasonably expect someone to be distressed by their actions if they've lived in the uk for very long at all, therefore could be charged. Plus, if a house caught fire and a lady escaped it into the streets in ask her birthday suit glory then how many would be offended by her nudity in those circumstances? What if a man ran from his home in the altogether but he was special needs and had the mental and emotional development of a 5 year old... Still offended or does circumstance mitigate your offense? The law has to be applied on a case by case basis.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

What about the naked cyclist rides then

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"What about the naked cyclist rides then "

Tis what I asked earlier

Also what about when people intentionally take their children onto a designated nudist beach?

?

Even though there are a couple of miles of beach they choose to enter a area obviously being used by nudists?

Not saying that they don't have the right to use same beach but surely they can't complain?

Last weekend I we were at a beach I went for a swim now I knew I was going to enter the area where families where so I wore my costume as would not want to cause issues.

Tbh most people seem pretty open minded and not interested with families and normal sunbathers coexisting next to the beach with no issues.

We use wind break and parasols if kids wonder into area we cover up or roll onto front.

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By *nny OP   Man  over a year ago

Glasgow

From many of the posts above it seems clear that with a bit of common sense (on both sides) there needn't be a problem.

That doesn't alter the fact that almost ever thread about naturist/ nudist beaches etc almost immediately deteriorates into 'if I go there, will I get a shag?'.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

Why is it illegal wasn't born with cloths on.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"From many of the posts above it seems clear that with a bit of common sense (on both sides) there needn't be a problem.

That doesn't alter the fact that almost ever thread about naturist/ nudist beaches etc almost immediately deteriorates into 'if I go there, will I get a shag?'."

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

I'm curious, would two females stripping off and skinny dipping have caused the same warnings and publicity?

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By *nny OP   Man  over a year ago

Glasgow

This story has just made the Radio4 23.00 news.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

I propose a mass naked skinny dipping protest.

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By *nny OP   Man  over a year ago

Glasgow


"I propose a mass naked skinny dipping protest."

Will there be any chances of a shag?

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By *illwill69uMan  over a year ago

moston

Just for the record when did the police (Northern Irish or others) get to decide when someone had to sign the sex offenders registrar?

I was under the impression that it was higher courts (that's crown courts or above) that got to make that decision.

Maybe I'm wrong, or maybe its police trying to claim powers they don't have...

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

I would be done for a little exposure

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