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Britain is finished!

By (user no longer on site) OP over a year ago

Many great civilisations have emerged and fallen. Egypt, Greece and Italy once were powerful, but they are now insignificant; their economies are now only 41, 43 and 9 largest respectively. Britain once had a great empire, but our economy is now only the 6 largest.

Countries like Russia, India, Brazil, Canada and Australia are not far behind Britain; they are rising up whilst Britain is falling down. India, Brazil and Russia have relatively large populations of 1.2 billion, 200 million and 140 million people respectively. Australia and Canada have relatively smaller populations, but they are approximately the same size of the USA. These countries are going to continue to develop and at some point in the future they will overtake Britain.

Ranking by GDP (2013)

Britain 6; Brazil 7; Russia 8; Italy 9; Indian 10; Canada 11; Australia 12; Egypt 41; Greece 43.

Britain used to be great, but that was a long time ago. Where did it all go wrong and who is to blame? What would you do to make Britain great again?

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Give Scotland Independence might help.

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By *iewMan over a year ago
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Angus & Findhorn

I think it is still a great country

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

6th largest economy is hardly insignificant on a global scale.

I fail to see the relevance of the greek and egyptian comparisons?

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By *ouple in LancashireCouple over a year ago

in Lancashire

OP so we are 'finished' as we are now 6th..?

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Luckily the UK is still a hotbed of creative thinking and innovation. Whilst others are getting up to speed learning how to do things the right way...we're off enjoying finding ways of doing things the wrong way...and innovating along the way. I include myself in that

So yes..we will eventually be eclipsed by others in terms of industry and manufacturing...but we are still the envy of much of the world for originality and innovation

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

And 'finished' is more than a touch melodramatic

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

It's evolution is all. Instead of flaunting power over others by using brute force (as we used to do) the countries you mentioned will have a financial hold on our short and curlies.

Just because we're no longer the great and powerful doesn't mean this is a shit place to live. Perhaps we've just grown up as a country instead of being the bullies in the playground?

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"6th largest economy is hardly insignificant on a global scale.

I fail to see the relevance of the greek and egyptian comparisons?"

The significance is that history records the Greek empire and the Egyptian one were in their heyday the biggest empires in the world as was the British one over 100yrs ago. Thus they have fallen down the ladder over century's he is implicating the British one has and will further.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"6th largest economy is hardly insignificant on a global scale.

I fail to see the relevance of the greek and egyptian comparisons?

Yes I know but I still fail to see the relevance. Those 2economies were 100s/1000s of years ago in a very different global economy

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By *icecouple561Couple over a year ago
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East Sussex

I think I know where this one is headed.

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By *anejohnkent6263Couple over a year ago

canterbury

i travel throughout europe and find it strange that other countries see us as a benefits dumping ground.Blame Mr Blair for our open borders, and so our demise gets worse, and just wait for more shit to come ....happy days im leaving in 2 yrs and will leave u all to it xx

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"I think I know where this one is headed."

Me too

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By *bi HaiveMan over a year ago
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Cheeseville, Somerset

Nothing 'went wrong'.

Other countries just caught up, the world became more 'global' rather than isolated - and many other factors such as manufacturing costs, labour costs and free market forces that work in the favour of countries that were previously hindered by low levels of quality labour, education, technology and infrastructure.

Why does it have to be a case that the

good old UK did anything wrong?

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By *icecouple561Couple over a year ago
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East Sussex

"i travel throughout europe and find it strange that other countries see us as a benefits dumping ground.Blame Mr Blair for our open borders, and so our demise gets worse, and just wait for more shit to come ....happy days im leaving in 2 yrs and will leave u all to it xx"

Righto!

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By *iewMan over a year ago
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Angus & Findhorn

"I think I know where this one is headed."

there is nothing surer.....

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"6th largest economy is hardly insignificant on a global scale.

I fail to see the relevance of the greek and egyptian comparisons?

Yes I know but I still fail to see the relevance. Those 2economies were 100s/1000s of years ago in a very different global economy"

Well if you can't see the reverence of using the collapse of other great civilisations I can't help more. Its relevant to the point that other examples are used on here. That don't mean the break up of the English empire will have us selling kebabs......ahhh but we do that all ready.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Nothing 'went wrong'.

Why does it have to be a case that the

good old UK did anything wrong?

Wasn't that all down to promises of independence to parts of the Empire in the second world war have more to do with it than anything else?

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Alright ha. Looks like britains fucked it then! O well!...Wonder if my teas done

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

When you hand in your assignment will you be citing 'hornyfukas336, fabswingers.com' etc. ?

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By *igandanneCouple over a year ago

Cheltenham

Were the greatest country in the world , thats why europe hates us so much so fk them

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Were the greatest country in the world , thats why europe hates us so much so fk them "

Greatest at what? Hedge trimming?

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Were the greatest country in the world , thats why europe hates us so much so fk them "

Up the bum?

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By *igandanneCouple over a year ago

Cheltenham

"Were the greatest country in the world , thats why europe hates us so much so fk them

Up the bum?"
as long as it hurts why not

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Oh oh, Sir I think I know this one. Is it the immigrants and the liberals?

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Oh oh, Sir I think I know this one. Is it the immigrants and the liberals? "

Correct!

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Oh oh, Sir I think I know this one. Is it the immigrants and the liberals? "

They'll help make Britain great again? Well I suppose they did the first time round..

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By *utzzCouple over a year ago

wrexham

"Oh oh, Sir I think I know this one. Is it the immigrants and the liberals?

Correct!

"
Wasn't it caused by the bisexuals?

Or is it just the weather they mess about with

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Were the greatest country in the world , thats why europe hates us so much so fk them

Up the bum?as long as it hurts why not"

Ar thats spot on! Send the big boys over ha!

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"I think it is still a great country

Here here

Patriotic is my middle name

someone play the National Anthem

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Were the greatest country in the world , thats why europe hates us so much so fk them "

Do you want to expand on that?

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Oh oh, Sir I think I know this one. Is it the immigrants and the liberals?

They'll help make Britain great again? Well I suppose they did the first time round..

No silly man, for watering down great British values of errrrrrr....and um.....wait a moment....queing properly and having a cup of tea in a crisis?

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Oh oh, Sir I think I know this one. Is it the immigrants and the liberals?

Correct!

Wasn't it caused by the bisexuals?

Or is it just the weather they mess about with

No, the bad weather was caused by Gay marriage!

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Oh oh, Sir I think I know this one. Is it the immigrants and the liberals? "

Clegg should be hung by one testicle from Tower Bridge

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"6th largest economy is hardly insignificant on a global scale.

I fail to see the relevance of the greek and egyptian comparisons?

Yes I know but I still fail to see the relevance. Those 2economies were 100s/1000s of years ago in a very different global economy

Is our civilisation collapsing then?

But seriously how do those empires compare to the modern day? They had no oppsition. And it was 100's years ago...

From the OP's post Italy (hardly the first country that springs to mind when discussing strong and/or growing economies) are still 9th so all these countries that are about to 'topple' us still have some ground to make up.

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By *ophieslutTV/TS over a year ago

Central

Why assume that something went wrong, when each place has its own limitations and assets and timing gives them advantages and disadvantages, alongside contemporaneous revolutions. We now have other countries with massive populations, technology delivers advantages to mass production via cheapest labour forces and social changes no longer favour empires, such as the old uk had. Evolution in action.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Great Britain is not finished

The clue is in the name

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By *isscheekychopsWoman over a year ago

The land of grey peas and bacon

Britain is far from finished....

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Was it realy great though? We have quite a shady past, an empire built on slavery,war and colonalisum. I would argue that Britians wealth was never its own to take.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Was it realy great though? We have quite a shady past, an empire built on slavery,war and colonalisum. I would argue that Britians wealth was never its own to take."

True. We did some good stuff too though.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

So we've not established what the OPs thoughts were on the previous comments? Sure he just likes a political debate, right?

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By *ouple in LancashireCouple over a year ago

in Lancashire

when you say shit to come, do you mean more economic bad news or are you alluding to some other shit to come..?

also is it slightly ironic that as a traveller throughout Europe who one would assume has had the advantages of 'free movement' that you apportion blame for us having the same..?

just a thought..

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"So we've not established what the OPs thoughts were on the previous comments? Sure he just likes a political debate, right?

Do you care? He measured greatness by GDP, I don't think his opinion will be too deep.

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By *yrdwomanWoman over a year ago

Putting the 'cum' in Eboracum

I don't know why everyone thinks Britain is finished. For such a tiny country we have huge influence on global economy and global politics, and have passed on our parliament and laws as models across the world. We've even passed our bureaucracy to certain parts of the commonwealth

Thanks to sponsorship we are gaining in various sports rankings (I shall stay silent about our national football team

), and our cuisine is no longer mocked by most of Europe, an is now usually copied and emulated.

We have the BAFTAs which are considered second only to the Oscars and Emmys. We have London Fashion week. We have the Edinburgh Fringe Festival, the European City of Culture, and just had the Grand Depart of the Tour De France. Most of the main Formula One racing teams are based in the UK, an they are considering Wales as one of Europes first commercial Space Port.

We have a relatively fair and non-corrupt Government and Police force (seriously, go travelling if you don't believe me. Other countries are AWFUL!!), we have been at peace on this land since the last war, the weather is (usually) clement, and our standard of living is amongst the best in the world. Oh, an we have a very pretty country, with beautiful and well maintained buildings and countryside.

I nearly forgot the NHS! If you think its a rip off you have not seen how much people have to pay for medical benefits in other countries.

If Canada, India, the US, Japan, China, and countless other countries love the UK, why don't we?

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By *ranny-CrumpetWoman over a year ago

The Town by The Cross

I haven't time to read every contribution so forgive me if I am repeating.

O.P.

Is economic growth/decline your sole measure of greatness ?

Does a nation have to be the most wealthy in order to be considered 'great' ?

If your argument is rational I could kick a kindly tramp to death and be considered the greater human being as I have more wealth than he does.

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By *histler21Man over a year ago

Ipswich

"Give Scotland Independence might help.

That'll drop us down the rankings even further...

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

we must build a pyramid so we arent forgotten

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Was it realy great though? We have quite a shady past, an empire built on slavery,war and colonalisum. I would argue that Britians wealth was never its own to take."

The same can be said for all first world countries.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Britain is far from finished 13 years of new labour did nt help but we are still capable of being world leaders

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By *luezuluMan over a year ago

Suffolk

Who's to blame???

The answer is quite simple Tony FUCKING Blair and his bunch of cronies.

But that said we are far from finished, we are still the envy of a lot of countries I could name.

Just get us out of Europe and let make our own laws again, run our own country, and our own economy

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"OP so we are 'finished' as we are now 6th..?

Must be a United supporter lol

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By *yrdwomanWoman over a year ago

Putting the 'cum' in Eboracum

[Removed by poster at 21/07/14 17:45:24]

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By *yrdwomanWoman over a year ago

Putting the 'cum' in Eboracum

Is....is that Jerusalem I can hear? Or Land of Hope and Glory? Nope, its Rule Britannia!

I think when people stop harking back to our Empire an start looking forward we might, just might have something to be proud of. Just a shame we can't get rid of the BNP and EDL, as they are the ones doing all the tub-thumping "them were the days" rhetoric.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

The reason we re great is our ability to be tolerant hear opinions debate accept the best reject the worst and never be burdened by dogmatism

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Well the country is great the politics of whoever is in government is crap. No one wants to tackle anything properly as seen to be too hard line the vote has been denied for years to get out of europe and no one wanted to go in the government did it for us. Anyone not already drawing their pension has been duped as you aint got fk all to come and if you bought a property and saved you will be worse off with death taxes etc a sad thing for kids to have to cough up but then again I live where the streets are paved with gold and we all earn mega bucks (so I keep being told!!!!!)

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

I believe that this is all part of the master plan and has been happening for many years without the public even noticing.

Every time you read a paper, watch the news or those great commercials that we all love so much we are being primed.

So many of us have became Sheeple and I'm a firm believer that it's all thanks to the Illuminati.

A new world order is on its way.

On the plus side,today the sun is shining.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

yes its finished so Scotland will go it alone and we will be great . The torys and labour are scared that we will be great

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"I believe that this is all part of the master plan and has been happening for many years without the public even noticing.

Every time you read a paper, watch the news or those great commercials that we all love so much we are being primed.

So many of us have became Sheeple and I'm a firm believer that it's all thanks to the Illuminati.

A new world order is on its way.

On the plus side,today the sun is shining.

GULP

Next you'll be telling me that the state is spying on us by intercepting our every email and logging our every phone call...wait a minute! It IS!!

Agghhhhhh

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"yes its finished so Scotland will go it alone and we will be great . The torys and labour are scared that we will be great

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Global economies are growing faster than ours as they pay their workers buttons hence India taking over from us in the ship building stakes etc, a welder over there will work 12 hours for 30 quid so we just cant compete as you could not live. India China etc are the fastest growing and they have either very rich or very poor people.

I think we as a country have it just about right but we still dole out far too much to the workshy

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By *luezuluMan over a year ago

Suffolk

"yes its finished so Scotland will go it alone and we will be great . The torys and labour are scared that we will be great

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ya having a laugh ain't ya.

That Alex Salmond is a bigger mug than Tony fucking Blair

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By *ust RachelTV/TS over a year ago

Horsham

I don't agree with the statement we are falling, more likely we have stagnated the others have improved.

Like so many things Britain waz at the top of the game, sadly but slowly we stayed still and the rest caught up.

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By *ouple in LancashireCouple over a year ago

in Lancashire

"Who's to blame???

The answer is quite simple Tony FUCKING Blair and his bunch of cronies.

But that said we are far from finished, we are still the envy of a lot of countries I could name.

Just get us out of Europe and let make our own laws again, run our own country, and our own economy "

not according to the IMF for the period he was PM..

ps, not a fan of the guy as I told an MP in 97 he reminded me of a used car salesman but on the economy prior to 08 to blame him is not correct..

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By *eliciouslyNastyMan over a year ago

London

This dude knew he'd start a fire!

Economy size doesn't necessarily relate completely to your standing in the world...

It's just an easy metric to point to.

The countless issues that are still on the table for many of those with larger GDPs and being ignored, at some point must be faced.

The influence that is exerted across the globe from here is material for textbooks.

At some point the world was always going to catch up & many more will yet pass us, but it's our achievements and future achievements that define us.

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By *nnyMan over a year ago

Glasgow

"yes its finished so Scotland will go it alone and we will be great . The torys and labour are scared that we will be great

If the Nats are so convinced the UK is finished, why are they so desperate to hang onto £ sterling?

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By *iamondsmiles.Woman over a year ago

little house on the praire

Well I wouldn't want to live anywhere else

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"yes its finished so Scotland will go it alone and we will be great . The torys and labour are scared that we will be great

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There are too many living off British benefits in Scotland that will not take the chance and vote yes,we would not mind Scotland buggering off alone and taking the share of the debt and creating their own currency and leaving sterling alone as we would not want to underwrite another countries economy

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By *luezuluMan over a year ago

Suffolk

"Who's to blame???

The answer is quite simple Tony FUCKING Blair and his bunch of cronies.

But that said we are far from finished, we are still the envy of a lot of countries I could name.

Just get us out of Europe and let make our own laws again, run our own country, and our own economy

not according to the IMF for the period he was PM..

ps, not a fan of the guy as I told an MP in 97 he reminded me of a used car salesman but on the economy prior to 08 to blame him is not correct.. "
Tony fucking Blair is to blame for everything, it was his fault I stubbed my toe earlier

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By *iewMan over a year ago
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Angus & Findhorn

I like Tony Blair

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Scotland will be great lmao is nt that where Blair and brown came from good luck you ll need it

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By *luezuluMan over a year ago

Suffolk

"I like Tony Blair

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and I'd never get fed up of kicking him in the face

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By *iewMan over a year ago
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Angus & Findhorn

"I like Tony Blair

and I'd never get fed up of kicking him in the face"

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By *luezuluMan over a year ago

Suffolk

"Scotland will be great lmao is nt that where Blair and brown came from good luck you ll need it "

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

What we need is a vote for England to have a vote to leave the UK !

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"What we need is a vote for England to have a vote to leave the UK ! "

Where would that leave Wales, Scotland and Nortern Ireland?

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By *luezuluMan over a year ago

Suffolk

"What we need is a vote for England to have a vote to leave the UK !

Where would that leave Wales, Scotland and Nortern Ireland?"
in the shit

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By *eKoopleCouple over a year ago

Germany / Manchester

Britain is still a pretty good place to be, not perfect but then again perfect is only based on perception. This country is great for those who a fearless, willing to learn, work smart and most importantly evolve. Our nation has much to offer and that can only come from us, not the privilaged few. The clues are in our history.

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By *stwoCouple over a year ago

anywhere

Britain is still à great place to live.yes it bas Its problems.but man y countries have à lot more.

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By *inaTitzTV/TS over a year ago

Titz Towers, North Notts

Sits at the front and starts looking through the programme to see what acts and scenes are still to come. Grimaces at UKIP reference in Act 1 scene 3, but smiles at Act 2, Brute

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By *B9 QueenWoman over a year ago

Over the rainbow, under the bridge

I love living here. Of all the places I've been in the world I've not ever seen one I'd rather live in than Britain, and more particularly the North of England.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Give Scotland Independence might help.

THAT DOESNT EVEN MAKE SENSE AT ALL IF YOU THINK WHAT YOU ARE ANSWERING TO

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By *razedcatMan over a year ago

London / Herts

It really depends on your definition of "great". Bolivia is a country blessed with enormous amounts of natural beauty. Sweden has one of the best education systems in the world, as does Singapore. Apparently, Venezuelans are the happiest people on earth, and Switzerland has remained largely neutral in military conflicts spanning two centuries.

So when I see that Britain is no longer the economic powerhouse it was two hundred years ago, I don't really care. As long as bombs aren't being dropped on my house and there's food on the table, it doesn't really matter.

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By *oandjohnCouple over a year ago

South Wales, will travel to Hereford, Worcestershire and Shropshire

It is simple. Politicians do everything to let the value of the UK leave the country. Allow cheap imports that don't get taxed enough, disregards local economy's and kisses the arses of big corporate companies who takes their manufacturing base off shore and allow big corporate companies to pay no tax.

They then make a large part on the countries work force selfemployed and then over taxes them.

Until this country and its politicians wakes up to the fact that if we don't make stuff to sell. All our money will leave the country when we buy it in. If people are not employed making stuff then we don't have people earning money.. They then can't buy stuff.. The Germans understand this fully and embrace the situation fully.

Sadly the lack of political back bone to deal with these issues means that we won't address the problem... How can British companies compete with the massive amount of red tape, H&S and burdening taxes compared to the slave labour of India, china and other far off lands... They can't...

They should tax produce that are not made in the same Enviroment the UK companies have to operate in.

How many times have you rang a companies customer services department and had to speak to someone in a far off land that simple can't resolve the simplist of issues..

Politicians have wreck this country.. If you travel around the West Midlands area it is like the graveyard of British industry. Once fine companies producing world class product all that have either disappeared or moved production off shore...

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Sits at the front and starts looking through the programme to see what acts and scenes are still to come. Grimaces at UKIP reference in Act 1 scene 3, but smiles at Act 2, Brute

Don't forget the encore of "This wouldn't have happened under Thatcher"

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By *xpresMan over a year ago

Elland

6th is hardly time to throw in in towel.. Lets face it, for a island semi independent from mainland Europe i think we are actually holding our own well.

Pity all some folk do is try to put the country down all the time we are still a market leader in so many things...

So stop being down be proud of our history our present & our future

GREAT BRITAIN rocks

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"It is simple. Politicians do everything to let the value of the UK leave the country. Allow cheap imports that don't get taxed enough, disregards local economy's and kisses the arses of big corporate companies who takes their manufacturing base off shore and allow big corporate companies to pay no tax.

They then make a large part on the countries work force selfemployed and then over taxes them.

They should tax produce that are not made in the same Enviroment the UK companies have to operate in.

How many times have you rang a companies customer services department and had to speak to someone in a far off land that simple can't resolve the simplist of issues..

The above is the most common sense I've heard in years

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

A lot of people skipped history at school!

I'm curious to know if the OP has been busy masturbating to the replies? An interesting fetish.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Does anyone know for sure: if you're a member of the European Community, you're allowed to work 364 days in this country, if you then fluck off to your own country for a month, you're given ALL YOUR TAX BACK?

When you've visited friends & relatives in your country of birth (& bought a couple of houses with the tax), you can come back to start the process again?

I heard this goes on quite a bit, but it does seem ludicrous if it's true.

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By *ust_for_laughsCouple over a year ago

Hinckley

"Sits at the front and starts looking through the programme to see what acts and scenes are still to come. Grimaces at UKIP reference in Act 1 scene 3, but smiles at Act 2, Brute

Don't forget the encore of "This wouldn't have happened under Thatcher, it's political correctness gone mad""

I've corrected that for you

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By *imiUKMan over a year ago

Hereford

If I just say "Hitler" now, can we close the thread and have a biscuit?

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

It can't be finished.

There still building a block of 500 new "homes" near where i am.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Does anyone know for sure: if you're a member of the European Community, you're allowed to work 364 days in this country, if you then fluck off to your own country for a month, you're given ALL YOUR TAX BACK?

When you've visited friends & relatives in your country of birth (& bought a couple of houses with the tax), you can come back to start the process again?

I heard this goes on quite a bit, but it does seem ludicrous if it's true."

No that is complete rubbish

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By *extoysareusCouple over a year ago

kinky heaven

When you've visited friends & relatives in your country of birth (& bought a couple of houses with the tax), you can come back to start the process again?

I heard this goes on quite a bit, but it does seem ludicrous if it's true."

You can earn £10,000 tax free anyway, so anyone can do it

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By *anejohnkent6263Couple over a year ago

canterbury

britain must be a great place ,because millions of people want to move here.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

It can't be finished.

There still building a block of 500 new "homes" near where i am. "

In China they have built complete Towns that lay empty because the common working person cannot afford to live in them, Their Economy grew too fast and is now in danger of going into freefall..Which will scare USA shitless as China holds a large percentage of the American debt and if they do call it in then God help us all.

Gimp

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By *ouple in LancashireCouple over a year ago

in Lancashire

"britain must be a great place ,because millions of people want to move here."

that mean your not leaving then?

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

When you've visited friends & relatives in your country of birth (& bought a couple of houses with the tax), you can come back to start the process again?

I heard this goes on quite a bit, but it does seem ludicrous if it's true.

No that is complete rubbish

Is it?? A guy near us works with lots of East Europeans and has told me this is what they do exactly

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

What: for every year you're working (or claiming benefits), you allowed to earn £10,000? So if they get a job which pays that amount, they can (British or not) remain over here indefinitely?

I've a Yugoslav 'aquaintance' who doesn't work (claims Jobseekers Allowance because he has no intention of finding employment) is entitled to hospital care etc.& his quality of life's far superior to mine!

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"What: for every year you're working (or claiming benefits), you allowed to earn £10,000? So if they get a job which pays that amount, they can (British or not) remain over here indefinitely?

Well, he can't exactly go back to Yugoslavia can he? And didn't we bomb the fuck out of parts of Yugoslavia anyway so that "refugees" were created and entitled to come here?

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"What: for every year you're working (or claiming benefits), you allowed to earn £10,000? So if they get a job which pays that amount, they can (British or not) remain over here indefinitely?

Pardon?

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By *ust_for_laughsCouple over a year ago

Hinckley

"What: for every year you're working (or claiming benefits), you allowed to earn £10,000? "

Have you never heard of tax codes?

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By *extoysareusCouple over a year ago

kinky heaven

"What: for every year you're working (or claiming benefits), you allowed to earn £10,000? So if they get a job which pays that amount, they can (British or not) remain over here indefinitely?

If you pay tax and you earn below the threshold you get it back.Simples

I lived most of the 80's 90's this way

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

When you've visited friends & relatives in your country of birth (& bought a couple of houses with the tax), you can come back to start the process again?

I heard this goes on quite a bit, but it does seem ludicrous if it's true.

No that is complete rubbish

Is it?? A guy near us works with lots of East Europeans and has told me this is what they do exactly

Well if a random guy told you it must be true?

Did you ask him to explain how it works?

Some people will be entitled to tax rebates. But it will have nothing to do with their nationality nor if they go back home for a day!

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By *effrey45Man over a year ago

Lytham

Maybe the OP can move abroad to one of his better countries and stop preaching to us why he thinks his country is so rubbish

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"What: for every year you're working (or claiming benefits), you allowed to earn £10,000? So if they get a job which pays that amount, they can (British or not) remain over here indefinitely?

If you pay tax and you earn below the threshold you get it back.Simples

I lived most of the 80's 90's this way

exactly.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

For Canister Testiculum's quote: Wll, he can't exactly go back to Yugoslavia can he? And didn't we bomb the fuck out of parts of Yugoslavia anyway so that "refugees" were created and entitled to come here?

I wasn't trying to 'send him back', just try to see his reason for exploiting this country (I know the answer's 'Because he can' though)!

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By *aucy3Couple over a year ago

glasgow

Why don't we just get Malaysia or India,build us some boats.

Then we could invade a few weaker countries,

and nick all their good stuff.

It's always worked in the past.

By this time next year,

we could all be millionaires

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

When you've visited friends & relatives in your country of birth (& bought a couple of houses with the tax), you can come back to start the process again?

I heard this goes on quite a bit, but it does seem ludicrous if it's true.

No that is complete rubbish

Is it?? A guy near us works with lots of East Europeans and has told me this is what they do exactly

Well if a random guy told you it must be true?

Did you ask him to explain how it works?

Some people will be entitled to tax rebates. But it will have nothing to do with their nationality nor if they go back home for a day! "

It's quite possible the "european" guy is getting a little confused, and possibly what he will be referring to is the sizeable amounts of "family benefit/family tax credit" paid in the homeland whilst hubby is working over here.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

I blame the aliens and the illuminati. They run the world and have brought this fair nation to it's knees. Did we really win the war or invite the defeated enemy within? Once inside they ruined us slowly over many years.

Napoleon played a devious games and when the aliens took him he sold us out....

Anyone else care to add to the bollocks I'm talking?

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By *otlovefun42Couple over a year ago

Costa Blanca Spain...

"I don't know why everyone thinks Britain is finished. For such a tiny country we have huge influence on global economy and global politics, and have passed on our parliament and laws as models across the world. We've even passed our bureaucracy to certain parts of the commonwealth

Thanks to sponsorship we are gaining in various sports rankings (I shall stay silent about our national football team

), and our cuisine is no longer mocked by most of Europe, an is now usually copied and emulated.

I nearly forgot the NHS! If you think its a rip off you have not seen how much people have to pay for medical benefits in other countries.

If Canada, India, the US, Japan, China, and countless other countries love the UK, why don't we?"

While I would agree with most of the above, the part about the NHS is not true.

Speaking as someone with experience of the NHS and the German health system there is no comparison.

For example: Mrs is currently in cancer care. She phoned the doctor about a breast lump she was worried about. The doctor didn't even ask to see her but referred her to the local breast clinic with an appointment the NEXT DAY. A biopsy was done on the spot and the result was the NEXT DAY, followed by surgery five days later.

All this talk about the "wonderful NHS" is bullshit. Most people only think it's good because they have never had to compare it with another country.

Trust me, you are being conned. The NHS is CRAP. but you just don't know any better.

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By *razedcatMan over a year ago

London / Herts

Just want to point out that Yugoslavia no longer exists, and hasn't for about eleven years. And even then it was just a remnant of its previous form, which crumbled ten years before that.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

. . . & as far as I was aware, if you're European you can earn in excess of £10,000 tax FREE each year anyway.

I don't know if this is factual, I'm asking for DEFINATE clarification.

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By *ust_for_laughsCouple over a year ago

Hinckley

". . . & as far as I was aware, if you're European you can earn in excess of £10,000 tax FREE each year anyway.

I don't know if this is factual, I'm asking for DEFINATE clarification."

I can't believe I'm actually doing this...

It has very little to do with being 'European', it also applies to those horrible little immigrants from Africa, Asia and the rest of the world too, if they get a job here.

http://www.hmrc.gov.uk/rates/it.htm

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

For 'Hotlovefun42's attention: In other countries they do cater for those with a medical health scheme / financial costs of care / treatment with insurance I take it, whilst we just pay tax which funds it?

So we are actually paying for a crap service?

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By *razedcatMan over a year ago

London / Herts

The principle is simple. Wherever the money is earned, the tax of that state will apply. This is how the wealthiest of our society get away with paying lower rates of tax, by basing their companies in tax havens like Monaco.

Anybody who works in Britain will be subject to the same rate of tax regardless of their origin. The key here is that many foreign workers come here under the radar, work cash in hand and then disappear, without paying a penny.

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By *oo hotCouple over a year ago

North West