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I have been on and off from the gym for a few years but really want to get back into it now . I have spent a lot of money on various supplements . Some seem too work some don't . Whats the best thing to buy ? I know I will get various answers but I just mean thing like creatine and protein ..Do they work or waste of money . Thanks |
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over a year ago
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Reflex Creatine monohydrate before and after a work out
If you just want protein in a supplement then something like Optimum Nutrition Gold Standard Whey
Diet is equally important.
And yes supplements work |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
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"Reflex Creatine monohydrate before and after a work out
If you just want protein in a supplement then something like Optimum Nutrition Gold Standard Whey
Diet is equally important.
And yes supplements work "
Cheers mate . I am 53 now so obviously not looking to get massive just to tone up |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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I don't use any suplements, believe most are sawdust really, pure food is best, eat around 800g of chicken, 200g tuna, drink milk as well for your protein and keep your calories to 3200, loads of pasta, rice and oats to  . |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
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"if its just a hobby ..what is wrong with just eating a good diet ? ..im not a gym bunny ..it is a genuine question"
I do have a good diet . And a reasonable body for my age but when I go to the gym it makes me feel good about myself
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Reflex Creatine monohydrate before and after a work out
If you just want protein in a supplement then something like Optimum Nutrition Gold Standard Whey
Diet is equally important.
And yes supplements work Cheers mate . I am 53 now so obviously not looking to get massive just to tone up "
These supplements won't make you
Massive. Supplements don't really do that any way unless you take a Mass Gainer which has lots of carbs and Protein to put on weight.
Creatine will help with your work out and your recovery, so will a good protein shake after a work out also.
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By (user no longer on site) OP
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"Reflex Creatine monohydrate before and after a work out
If you just want protein in a supplement then something like Optimum Nutrition Gold Standard Whey
Diet is equally important.
And yes supplements work Cheers mate . I am 53 now so obviously not looking to get massive just to tone up
These supplements won't make you
Massive. Supplements don't really do that any way unless you take a Mass Gainer which has lots of carbs and Protein to put on weight.
Creatine will help with your work out and your recovery, so will a good protein shake after a work out also.
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Cheers . It was protein and creatine I was looking to buy . Just making sure I was not wasting my money |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"if its just a hobby ..what is wrong with just eating a good diet ? ..im not a gym bunny ..it is a genuine question"
Eating a good diet will get you so far and in most cases is all that people need depending on what they actually want to achieve.
I for many years didn't use protein supplements or any extra's and you reach a certain level.
The I tried using BCAA (Branch Chain amino acids) before and after work outs and noticed an increase in my training. The progressed to Creatine which again added another level.
Now I use pre work out drinks for extra focus and durability and I always have a protein shake post work out and I gained mass using these. No improving diet to include the right balance of protein / carbs and good fats. It starts as hobbies then changes to a life style.
Some shakes taste awful but I have found 2 to be really nice. Garnell is one make and PHD being the other. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Reflex Creatine monohydrate before and after a work out
If you just want protein in a supplement then something like Optimum Nutrition Gold Standard Whey
Diet is equally important.
And yes supplements work Cheers mate . I am 53 now so obviously not looking to get massive just to tone up
These supplements won't make you
Massive. Supplements don't really do that any way unless you take a Mass Gainer which has lots of carbs and Protein to put on weight.
Creatine will help with your work out and your recovery, so will a good protein shake after a work out also.
Cheers . It was protein and creatine I was looking to buy . Just making sure I was not wasting my money "
I wouldn't say you were wasting your money. Lots of tests have proven how well creatine and whey helps.
I use Dolphin fitness for my stuff the tend to be the cheapest and be reviews are very good. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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Diet is the key thing. Whey protein is good as an addition to your usual chicken, fish and so forth.
Once you get back in to the gym and start training then i think you'd know what steps to take when it comes to deciding what is the right product for you according to your goals.
Good luck.
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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Also there is a site called body building dot com which has work out program's and diet advice as well and lost of healthy meal ideas.
The very best of luck though |
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By (user no longer on site)
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You guys missed out on GNC where the offer was buy one get one £1. I ended up stocking up on my shakes worth over 60 quid for only 17 quid somehow.
Then again. I'm just a fat bugger who likes to lately eat as well as train lol
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If all you're looking for is a toned body then you are wasting your money.
All you need to do is diet, plenty of lean meat, high gi carbs like wholemeal and fruit/veg.
Then get the gym to do you a routine that will burn off the fat and tone. It's as much , what you do as food. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"If all you're looking for is a toned body then you are wasting your money.
All you need to do is diet, plenty of lean meat, high gi carbs like wholemeal and fruit/veg.
Then get the gym to do you a routine that will burn off the fat and tone. It's as much , what you do as food. "
Why would taking creatine mean he is wasting his money? If he wants tonnage then he needs high intensity and high volume training. Creatine will help massively with achieving that |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Just took a new progress pic of my 6pack, looks damn hot lol
Cor has anyone else noticed you have a six pack. Sorry can't help it lol"
lol its ok and your right recon few have noticed, my chest is now 43" goal around 60" |
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By (user no longer on site)
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Diet is key. A supplement is only that. To supplement an already solid diet. Eat whole foods lots of vegetables. Lots of protein, healthy fats. When you are slightly leaner incorporate some carbs into your diet on days ou train. But supps that work, omega 3 oil, whey protein post workout only, and creatine. Search for strength sensei for good articles. |
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You just need food, and top it up with a shake, but you need to bulk up, to cut down, and the idea is to eat little but often big chinese carton size portions 4/5 times a day .... And most Important tip of all! Hard sessions if you don't feel the burn you're not doing it right lol |
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"You just need food, and top it up with a shake, but you need to bulk up, to cut down, and the idea is to eat little but often big chinese carton size portions 4/5 times a day .... And most Important tip of all! Hard sessions if you don't feel the burn you're not doing it right lol "
Bro science. Get lean first, improve your sensitivity to insulin, and let carbs work in your favour storing sugars as muscle glycogen rather than "bulking up" and getting fat. It depends on your starting point. Instead of wasting money unknowingly on expensive foods and supplements, find a decent personal trainer who works with you to reach your goals. |
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"You just need food, and top it up with a shake, but you need to bulk up, to cut down, and the idea is to eat little but often big chinese carton size portions 4/5 times a day .... And most Important tip of all! Hard sessions if you don't feel the burn you're not doing it right lol
Bro science. Get lean first, improve your sensitivity to insulin, and let carbs work in your favour storing sugars as muscle glycogen rather than "bulking up" and getting fat. It depends on your starting point. Instead of wasting money unknowingly on expensive foods and supplements, find a decent personal trainer who works with you to reach your goals."
What! Expensive food? Chicken and rice pasta peanut butter ect ect!! Like you said it depends on the starting point! Say the man wants to be 13 stone! bulk up 14/14half stone and then cut down to 13 through hard work and in the process he will tone up!!? |
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"You just need food, and top it up with a shake, but you need to bulk up, to cut down, and the idea is to eat little but often big chinese carton size portions 4/5 times a day .... And most Important tip of all! Hard sessions if you don't feel the burn you're not doing it right lol
Bro science. Get lean first, improve your sensitivity to insulin, and let carbs work in your favour storing sugars as muscle glycogen rather than "bulking up" and getting fat. It depends on your starting point. Instead of wasting money unknowingly on expensive foods and supplements, find a decent personal trainer who works with you to reach your goals.
What! Expensive food? Chicken and rice pasta peanut butter ect ect!! Like you said it depends on the starting point! Say the man wants to be 13 stone! bulk up 14/14half stone and then cut down to 13 through hard work and in the process he will tone up!!?"
Eating meat and fish 3-5 times a day is more expensive than porridge, a sandwich, then pasta for dinner yes. Im not saying he wont get bigger. But why bulk, get fat, slow your metabolism, reduce your sensitivity to insulin, when with proper dieting you can remain lean all year and add muscle? Google UP fitness or strength sensei. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"I have been on and off from the gym for a few years but really want to get back into it now . I have spent a lot of money on various supplements . Some seem too work some don't . Whats the best thing to buy ? I know I will get various answers but I just mean thing like creatine and protein ..Do they work or waste of money . Thanks "
They help but they arnt going to do the work for you.
Protein helps purely cause eating masses of chicken gets boring and it's easier to eat and digest in the short win do after exercise.
Creatine can help you get a little bit more our of your self but needs to be taken religiously to a tally stay topped up, and you'll only ever really notice the effect it had when you stop.
If you really want to see results the only thing that will do it is not going "off and on again" but going reguarly with a set sensible routine and a constant gentle increase in weight.
Strong lifts 5x5 is a good intro into the main compound lifts for good strength and a slow but constant build in weight.
Bes thing to buy is the giant bag of rice and the giant bag of frozen chicken breast. |
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"I have been on and off from the gym for a few years but really want to get back into it now . I have spent a lot of money on various supplements . Some seem too work some don't . Whats the best thing to buy ? I know I will get various answers but I just mean thing like creatine and protein ..Do they work or waste of money . Thanks "
Supplements for what ? |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
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"I have been on and off from the gym for a few years but really want to get back into it now . I have spent a lot of money on various supplements . Some seem too work some don't . Whats the best thing to buy ? I know I will get various answers but I just mean thing like creatine and protein ..Do they work or waste of money . Thanks
Supplements for what ?"
Good question !! I suppose supplements to give the body what it needs before and after a workout |
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"You just need food, and top it up with a shake, but you need to bulk up, to cut down, and the idea is to eat little but often big chinese carton size portions 4/5 times a day .... And most Important tip of all! Hard sessions if you don't feel the burn you're not doing it right lol
Bro science. Get lean first, improve your sensitivity to insulin, and let carbs work in your favour storing sugars as muscle glycogen rather than "bulking up" and getting fat. It depends on your starting point. Instead of wasting money unknowingly on expensive foods and supplements, find a decent personal trainer who works with you to reach your goals.
What! Expensive food? Chicken and rice pasta peanut butter ect ect!! Like you said it depends on the starting point! Say the man wants to be 13 stone! bulk up 14/14half stone and then cut down to 13 through hard work and in the process he will tone up!!?
Eating meat and fish 3-5 times a day is more expensive than porridge, a sandwich, then pasta for dinner yes. Im not saying he wont get bigger. But why bulk, get fat, slow your metabolism, reduce your sensitivity to insulin, when with proper dieting you can remain lean all year and add muscle? Google UP fitness or strength sensei. "
Don't really need to google it when at the end of the day we're both kinda right! could be ping ponging messages all night long... ain't nobody got time for that!! Lol |
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"You just need food, and top it up with a shake, but you need to bulk up, to cut down, and the idea is to eat little but often big chinese carton size portions 4/5 times a day .... And most Important tip of all! Hard sessions if you don't feel the burn you're not doing it right lol
Bro science. Get lean first, improve your sensitivity to insulin, and let carbs work in your favour storing sugars as muscle glycogen rather than "bulking up" and getting fat. It depends on your starting point. Instead of wasting money unknowingly on expensive foods and supplements, find a decent personal trainer who works with you to reach your goals.
What! Expensive food? Chicken and rice pasta peanut butter ect ect!! Like you said it depends on the starting point! Say the man wants to be 13 stone! bulk up 14/14half stone and then cut down to 13 through hard work and in the process he will tone up!!?
Eating meat and fish 3-5 times a day is more expensive than porridge, a sandwich, then pasta for dinner yes. Im not saying he wont get bigger. But why bulk, get fat, slow your metabolism, reduce your sensitivity to insulin, when with proper dieting you can remain lean all year and add muscle? Google UP fitness or strength sensei. "
Don't really need to google it when at the end of the day we're both kinda right! could be ping ponging messages all night long... ain't nobody got time for that!! Lol |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"You just need food, and top it up with a shake, but you need to bulk up, to cut down, and the idea is to eat little but often big chinese carton size portions 4/5 times a day .... And most Important tip of all! Hard sessions if you don't feel the burn you're not doing it right lol
Bro science. Get lean first, improve your sensitivity to insulin, and let carbs work in your favour storing sugars as muscle glycogen rather than "bulking up" and getting fat. It depends on your starting point. Instead of wasting money unknowingly on expensive foods and supplements, find a decent personal trainer who works with you to reach your goals.
What! Expensive food? Chicken and rice pasta peanut butter ect ect!! Like you said it depends on the starting point! Say the man wants to be 13 stone! bulk up 14/14half stone and then cut down to 13 through hard work and in the process he will tone up!!?
Eating meat and fish 3-5 times a day is more expensive than porridge, a sandwich, then pasta for dinner yes. Im not saying he wont get bigger. But why bulk, get fat, slow your metabolism, reduce your sensitivity to insulin, when with proper dieting you can remain lean all year and add muscle? Google UP fitness or strength sensei.
Don't really need to google it when at the end of the day we're both kinda right! could be ping ponging messages all night long... ain't nobody got time for that!! Lol "
True, lesson is you cant out supplement a bad diet. |
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By *imiUKMan
over a year ago
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The only supplement that has been shown to 'work' (in the sense that it aids muscle recovery) in proper trials is creatine monohydrate ("Purer" forms actually don't seem to be used by the body in the same way).
Powdered proteins are fine (Whey, Casein), if you can't eat enough in your diet (I like them because they are cheaper than meat, and I'm poor), but they don't 'do' anything that other protein sources would. Aim for 1g protein/500g of your lean body mass (you can work this out online) per day. Adjust your calories depending on whether you want to bulk or cut - recomping is a lot of effort, IME.
Aim for a lifting program with progressive overload/reps - for the most 'bang' for your buck, you still can't beat the 'big lifts' (squat, dead, bench, OHP) - base your workout around those. |
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When I was training years ago I used to take that Cyclone powder it was bloody good but I was very windy.
I am in the gym again but more for fitness now and toning so I am just trying to eat well.
+ Water and green tea  |
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By *imiUKMan
over a year ago
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Oh and re: "what the body needs before and after a workout"...
Don't sweat it too much - something carby a bit before you work out (a banana, perhaps?) and protieny after - the "metabolic window" has been shown to be a lot longer than people think, so you could just as easily go home and have dinner post-workout rather than having a shake there and then or whatever. |
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"When I was training years ago I used to take that Cyclone powder it was bloody good but I was very windy.
I am in the gym again but more for fitness now and toning so I am just trying to eat well.
+ Water and green tea "
Green tea? I don't know what would be worse,a guy that farts cyclone powder all the way through a meet or a guy whos cock tastes of green tea!
Dilemma |
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"The only supplement that has been shown to 'work' (in the sense that it aids muscle recovery) in proper trials is creatine monohydrate ("Purer" forms actually don't seem to be used by the body in the same way).
Powdered proteins are fine (Whey, Casein), if you can't eat enough in your diet (I like them because they are cheaper than meat, and I'm poor), but they don't 'do' anything that other protein sources would. Aim for 1g protein/500g of your lean body mass (you can work this out online) per day. Adjust your calories depending on whether you want to bulk or cut - recomping is a lot of effort, IME.
Aim for a lifting program with progressive overload/reps - for the most 'bang' for your buck, you still can't beat the 'big lifts' (squat, dead, bench, OHP) - base your workout around those. "
I always found casein was great about half an hour before bed. Makes you feel nicely full and sleepy.
That or the baileys I used to mix with it
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"When I was training years ago I used to take that Cyclone powder it was bloody good but I was very windy.
I am in the gym again but more for fitness now and toning so I am just trying to eat well.
+ Water and green tea
Green tea? I don't know what would be worse,a guy that farts cyclone powder all the way through a meet or a guy whos cock tastes of green tea!
Dilemma "
Neither... But I do like all this male bonding tonight |
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By *imiUKMan
over a year ago
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"The only supplement that has been shown to 'work' (in the sense that it aids muscle recovery) in proper trials is creatine monohydrate ("Purer" forms actually don't seem to be used by the body in the same way).
Powdered proteins are fine (Whey, Casein), if you can't eat enough in your diet (I like them because they are cheaper than meat, and I'm poor), but they don't 'do' anything that other protein sources would. Aim for 1g protein/500g of your lean body mass (you can work this out online) per day. Adjust your calories depending on whether you want to bulk or cut - recomping is a lot of effort, IME.
Aim for a lifting program with progressive overload/reps - for the most 'bang' for your buck, you still can't beat the 'big lifts' (squat, dead, bench, OHP) - base your workout around those.
I always found casein was great about half an hour before bed. Makes you feel nicely full and sleepy.
That or the baileys I used to mix with it
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Casein does sit like lead in your stomach... |
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"When I was training years ago I used to take that Cyclone powder it was bloody good but I was very windy.
I am in the gym again but more for fitness now and toning so I am just trying to eat well.
+ Water and green tea
Green tea? I don't know what would be worse,a guy that farts cyclone powder all the way through a meet or a guy whos cock tastes of green tea!
Dilemma
Neither... But I do like all this male bonding tonight "
Yes I think ill stick around and keep an eye on this thread,just incase I miss something educational |
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"When I was training years ago I used to take that Cyclone powder it was bloody good but I was very windy.
I am in the gym again but more for fitness now and toning so I am just trying to eat well.
+ Water and green tea
Green tea? I don't know what would be worse,a guy that farts cyclone powder all the way through a meet or a guy whos cock tastes of green tea!
Dilemma
Neither... But I do like all this male bonding tonight
Yes I think ill stick around and keep an eye on this thread,just incase I miss something educational "
Pretty soon men will be going to the toilet in pairs lol |
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"When I was training years ago I used to take that Cyclone powder it was bloody good but I was very windy.
I am in the gym again but more for fitness now and toning so I am just trying to eat well.
+ Water and green tea
Green tea? I don't know what would be worse,a guy that farts cyclone powder all the way through a meet or a guy whos cock tastes of green tea!
Dilemma "
Would you prefer red bush tea?; |
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By (user no longer on site)
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I go to the gym.. Perv at the gorgeous young men whilst sweating like a oinky piggy on the cross trainer... Do a few circuits ect! I eat sensibly, lots of fish and chicken but I don't take supplements... Am I meant to? |
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"I have been on and off from the gym for a few years but really want to get back into it now . I have spent a lot of money on various supplements . Some seem too work some don't . Whats the best thing to buy ? I know I will get various answers but I just mean thing like creatine and protein ..Do they work or waste of money . Thanks
Supplements for what ? Good question !! I suppose supplements to give the body what it needs before and after a workout "
Yes, they supply the raw materials to build muscle and burn fuel. Plenty of good quality protein in the diet will do that too, but there would come a point when training would create a demand over an above what an ordinary diet could supply, so for most people supplements are 'just in case'. Whey protein still counts as a 'food' source anyway - I found a vanilla one that was delicious!
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I thought casein slowly releases protein? That's why it's good to have it before sleeping where you wouldn't usually be getting your regular protein intake.
I remember i had this ON Casein, banana flavour - that tasted so good!!
I'm on this serious mass at the moment and i tell you what. My blender is being used as it should. Annoying how thick it is!! Doesn't dissolve in the shaker.
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