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" But there seem to be an inordinate number of young men signing on, seemingly with an attitude that they are going to find a cross between instashag and a free escort service!! Like 'Im in London for a week and might be looking to play....'. Excuse me? "I'm not quite following what the problem with that message is  | |||
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"Whats POF" I think it's a dating site that many use as a sex site. Not to be confused with this sex site that many confuse with a dating site. | |||
" But there seem to be an inordinate number of young men signing on, seemingly with an attitude that they are going to find a cross between instashag and a free escort service!! Like 'Im in London for a week and might be looking to play....'. Excuse me?
I'm not quite following what the problem with that message is "Each to his own. I find it totally impersonal and disrespectful. As I say, I was wondering what they were expecting, what the reputation was. | |||
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"I must remember not to message people when I'm going on my travels. I'd hate it to be misconstrued. " But your message would probably not be " Hi I am in ........ may fancy a play !!! Thats what the op is saying | |||
"The amount of times people propose some sort of sexual activity on here disgusts me." Bloody disgusting if you ask me | |||
"I must remember not to message people when I'm going on my travels. I'd hate it to be misconstrued. But your message would probably not be " Hi I am in ........ may fancy a play !!! Thats what the op is saying "You're right it's usually. Hi I'm going to be in London fancy meeting up for a drink or a meal. but it could be fancy a fuck lol | |||
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"Whilst I don't particular agree with your last sentence. Getting a mail saying "we are down south for a few days fancy meeting ?"can turn into a fun liaison. But from a few posts recently I have wondered about the attitude of some people on here. On one thread there were people saying things like "if he's rich why is he on here looking for a free fuck " and " a wealthy person on fab, they must be crazy why don't they just get an escort" It's as if they think if you can't afford to pay for it come here and get it for nothing. " Now there's an attitude I find more worrying | |||
"Whilst I don't particular agree with your last sentence. Getting a mail saying "we are down south for a few days fancy meeting ?"can turn into a fun liaison. But from a few posts recently I have wondered about the attitude of some people on here. On one thread there were people saying things like "if he's rich why is he on here looking for a free fuck " and " a wealthy person on fab, they must be crazy why don't they just get an escort" It's as if they think if you can't afford to pay for it come here and get it for nothing. Now there's an attitude I find more worrying "That is what I think the OP was alluding to. And I tend to agree. | |||
" It's as if they think if you can't afford to pay for it come here and get it for nothing. " That IS the attitude I detect from some of the people I am talking about, and pecisely what prompted this thread. I have no problem meeting gorgeous young men for sex, even unverified newbies if I feel they are genuine - my veris will testify to that, so the 'some people on here....' jibes are water off a ducks back. But these are not bona fide ongoing fabs users - my impression is a lot of them are signing up to see if they can get 'a free shag'. They're chancing their arm as it were - I believe in RESPONSE to something they have heard. If they are respectful and attractive I might invite them to hang around and chat a bit - I often see that they are gone within a couple of days. | |||
"Whilst I don't particular agree with your last sentence. Getting a mail saying "we are down south for a few days fancy meeting ?"can turn into a fun liaison. But from a few posts recently I have wondered about the attitude of some people on here. On one thread there were people saying things like "if he's rich why is he on here looking for a free fuck " and " a wealthy person on fab, they must be crazy why don't they just get an escort" It's as if they think if you can't afford to pay for it come here and get it for nothing. Now there's an attitude I find more worrying
That is what I think the OP was alluding to. And I tend to agree. " | |||
"The amount of times people propose some sort of sexual activity on here disgusts me. Bloody disgusting if you ask me "Not often enough - the bastards | |||
" It's as if they think if you can't afford to pay for it come here and get it for nothing. That IS the attitude I detect from some of the people I am talking about, and pecisely what prompted this thread. I have no problem meeting gorgeous young men for sex, even unverified newbies if I feel they are genuine - my veris will testify to that, so the 'some people on here....' jibes are water off a ducks back. But these are not bona fide ongoing fabs users - my impression is a lot of them are signing up to see if they can get 'a free shag'. They're chancing their arm as it were - I believe in RESPONSE to something they have heard. If they are respectful and attractive I might invite them to hang around and chat a bit - I often see that they are gone within a couple of days." Ok I agree that is more worrying. I think the example you gave at first seemed innocuous in comparison. | |||
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" It's as if they think if you can't afford to pay for it come here and get it for nothing. That IS the attitude I detect from some of the people I am talking about, and pecisely what prompted this thread. I have no problem meeting gorgeous young men for sex, even unverified newbies if I feel they are genuine - my veris will testify to that, so the 'some people on here....' jibes are water off a ducks back. But these are not bona fide ongoing fabs users - my impression is a lot of them are signing up to see if they can get 'a free shag'. They're chancing their arm as it were - I believe in RESPONSE to something they have heard. If they are respectful and attractive I might invite them to hang around and chat a bit - I often see that they are gone within a couple of days. Ok I agree that is more worrying. I think the example you gave at first seemed innocuous in comparison. " Well I could not quote verbatim obviously, though I have had several in the last couple of days - post world cup blues maybe. Some even state they are playing behind their girlfriends back while they are away. It's just this mornings message was worded more like a trade enquiry than a normal approach 'I'm thinking of having my hair done while I'm in town next week.....' | |||
" It's as if they think if you can't afford to pay for it come here and get it for nothing. That IS the attitude I detect from some of the people I am talking about, and pecisely what prompted this thread. " The attitude you 'detect'... so is that down to your perception - how you choose to interpret the words? I am not saying there are not any chancers with a totally negative attitude towards the 'type' of women sites like this must (in their mind) attract. There always has been and always will be chancers. But the message example you gave was a perfectly reasonable message and if that's the worst example you can muster, be prepared to feel really disrespected as time goes on. | |||
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" It's as if they think if you can't afford to pay for it come here and get it for nothing. That IS the attitude I detect from some of the people I am talking about, and pecisely what prompted this thread. The attitude you 'detect'... so is that down to your perception - how you choose to interpret the words? I am not saying there are not any chancers with a totally negative attitude towards the 'type' of women sites like this must (in their mind) attract. There always has been and always will be chancers. But the message example you gave was a perfectly reasonable message and if that's the worst example you can muster, be prepared to feel really disrespected as time goes on. " As I say, I cannot quote, and all written word is open to interpretation - you'll just have to trust my judgement on that, or not, as you wish. Or think about the question I actually asked instead maybe. But I don't take offence at attractive young men hitting on me anyway, on the contrary, it flatters and amuses me, and so I don't 'feel disrespected' by it. But I am able to observe it quite objectively and form an opinion. Sometimes I even write to them and suggest a better approach! One or two have been appalled that their message was deemed inappropriate - hence my question. I think they have been misinformed about the nature of this site. And I wonder therefore if it might be addressed - do they need to be given some kind of ACCURATE information when they join the site?? I can't remember if FAQ of some kind are sent? | |||
What they don't see or interpret is the meaning of the name of FabSwingers.
To them it's just a.n.other sex shag site.
And not the idea that it's more of a lifestyle  | |||
" But I don't take offence at attractive young men hitting on me anyway, on the contrary, it flatters and amuses me, and so I don't 'feel disrespected' by it. But I am able to observe it quite objectively and form an opinion. " That's odd, as seven posts down from the start of the thread you stated "I find it totally impersonal and disrespectful". This obviously lead to my comments. As for the original question and subsequent is there a "need to be given some kind of ACCURATE information when they join the site??" What sort of accurate information do you think they need? | |||
"I think the attitude that this is a sex site is disrespectful in itself, this is a swingers site given by the name, it is used by others for other things but it doesnt change the fact that fabswingers is a swinging site primarily. " Do you walk into WH Smith and demand they make you a horseshoe? | |||
"There's been such a proliferation of "adult dating" sites over the past few years that it's not surprising that there has been cross-over. A lot of guys will just sign up, and as Fab is very low cost they'll stay and try their luck.
What they don't see or interpret is the meaning of the name of FabSwingers.
To them it's just a.n.other sex shag site.
And not the idea that it's more of a lifestyle "tis true - and women too | |||
"There's been such a proliferation of "adult dating" sites over the past few years that it's not surprising that there has been cross-over. A lot of guys will just sign up, and as Fab is very low cost they'll stay and try their luck.
What they don't see or interpret is the meaning of the name of FabSwingers.
To them it's just a.n.other sex shag site.
And not the idea that it's more of a lifestyle "I think that's a useful way of seeing it. It's also a testament to the success of Fabswingers as a website and as such it almost inevitably becomes a victim of its success. | |||
"There's been such a proliferation of "adult dating" sites over the past few years that it's not surprising that there has been cross-over. A lot of guys will just sign up, and as Fab is very low cost they'll stay and try their luck.
What they don't see or interpret is the meaning of the name of FabSwingers.
To them it's just a.n.other sex shag site.
And not the idea that it's more of a lifestyle
tis true - and women too" | |||
"Rumour is some peolle on here actual chat....agree a meet......both turn up.....and play!!!! Personally I thinks it's Bullsh#t........ "Oh it's not I can assure you! | |||
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"Whats POF I think it's a dating site that many use as a sex site. Not to be confused with this sex site that many confuse with a dating site." | |||
" That's odd, as seven posts down from the start of the thread you stated "I find it totally impersonal and disrespectful". This obviously lead to my comments. " Ah well, I think you just misinterpreted me then. That was a dispassionate observation on the style of the approach not an expression of indignation or offence. I often say 'Give them some slack' on threads expressing indignation at one line messages or 'How are you' approaches. They don't bother me. But this one was SO matter of fact it raised the question in me - what ARE these guys coming here believing?? What kind of information - I have no idea, the thought has only just occurred to me - maybe we need a FAB FAQ thread. I dunno, I usually explain to them that the competition is fierce and that in order to get meets they are going to have to write a decent profile and put up a bunch of pics. It's what we tell guys week in week out when they eventually come on the forums saying 'Help, I'm not ugly, why won't anyone meet me....?'. Maybe the experience would be better for them and for us if they had the information first? | |||
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"I think the attitude that this is a sex site is disrespectful in itself, this is a swingers site given by the name, it is used by others for other things but it doesnt change the fact that fabswingers is a swinging site primarily. Do you walk into WH Smith and demand they make you a horseshoe?" why on earth would I do that, wh smith does not claim to be a blacksmith, however fabswingers claims to be a site made by swingers for swingers which is what makes it primarily a swingers site, like I originally said it gets used for other things, because its easy and free to access and many now join thinking they will get an easy lay, hence all the why cant I get a meet/ whats wrong with my profile threads, but it still doesnt change that the site is a swingers site. | |||
"I'm sure some would appreciate a patronising discussion on how to get sex on here. At least while they think they have a chance of getting it." Some actually appreciate someone trying to help in a non-patronising fashion after being clearly told they are NOT getting it too! | |||
"I think the attitude that this is a sex site is disrespectful in itself, this is a swingers site given by the name, it is used by others for other things but it doesnt change the fact that fabswingers is a swinging site primarily. Do you walk into WH Smith and demand they make you a horseshoe? why on earth would I do that, wh smith does not claim to be a blacksmith, however fabswingers claims to be a site made by swingers for swingers which is what makes it primarily a swingers site, like I originally said it gets used for other things, because its easy and free to access and many now join thinking they will get an easy lay, hence all the why cant I get a meet/ whats wrong with my profile threads, but it still doesnt change that the site is a swingers site." I think actually it's a site run by a web developer that exists for profit. If the market regards it as a sex site - that's what it is. | |||
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"I thought the word on the street was "SLOW" "Or ARAF | |||
"I thought the word on the street was "SLOW"
Or ARAF"Which is welsh for Giraffe...never seen one crossing though | |||
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"I'm sure some would appreciate a patronising discussion on how to get sex on here. At least while they think they have a chance of getting it." Some just appreciate getting mail... no matter what it says. | |||
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"I know what you're saying OP. There's "fancy a fuck" and "fancy a fuck" messages. Both the same yes, but with everything else considered, one is ok and the other isn't! " Yes, as we say in horse whispering circles 'If the answer is no - either you asked the wrong question, or you asked the question wrong'. Attitude and intent are all important and will often get a very different response to the same question. | |||
"I think the attitude that this is a sex site is disrespectful in itself, this is a swingers site given by the name, it is used by others for other things but it doesnt change the fact that fabswingers is a swinging site primarily. Do you walk into WH Smith and demand they make you a horseshoe? why on earth would I do that, wh smith does not claim to be a blacksmith, however fabswingers claims to be a site made by swingers for swingers which is what makes it primarily a swingers site, like I originally said it gets used for other things, because its easy and free to access and many now join thinking they will get an easy lay, hence all the why cant I get a meet/ whats wrong with my profile threads, but it still doesnt change that the site is a swingers site. I think actually it's a site run by a web developer that exists for profit. If the market regards it as a sex site - that's what it is. " but it isnt, its actually a site created by swingers for swingers, thats what it is, because some come along and use it for other things doesnt change that, its still what it is, you may use a hammer to put a screw in, doesnt make it a screw driver. | |||
"I think the attitude that this is a sex site is disrespectful in itself, this is a swingers site given by the name, it is used by others for other things but it doesnt change the fact that fabswingers is a swinging site primarily. Do you walk into WH Smith and demand they make you a horseshoe? why on earth would I do that, wh smith does not claim to be a blacksmith, however fabswingers claims to be a site made by swingers for swingers which is what makes it primarily a swingers site, like I originally said it gets used for other things, because its easy and free to access and many now join thinking they will get an easy lay, hence all the why cant I get a meet/ whats wrong with my profile threads, but it still doesnt change that the site is a swingers site. I think actually it's a site run by a web developer that exists for profit. If the market regards it as a sex site - that's what it is. but it isnt, its actually a site created by swingers for swingers, thats what it is, because some come along and use it for other things doesnt change that, its still what it is, you may use a hammer to put a screw in, doesnt make it a screw driver." erm you really need to look into the reality - the company that runs this site is owned by one man. Kind of ironic that it should be run by a single man | |||
"I thought the word on the street was "SLOW"
Or ARAF"Thats Chinese for 'Humour'  | |||
"I think the attitude that this is a sex site is disrespectful in itself, this is a swingers site given by the name, it is used by others for other things but it doesnt change the fact that fabswingers is a swinging site primarily. Do you walk into WH Smith and demand they make you a horseshoe? why on earth would I do that, wh smith does not claim to be a blacksmith, however fabswingers claims to be a site made by swingers for swingers which is what makes it primarily a swingers site, like I originally said it gets used for other things, because its easy and free to access and many now join thinking they will get an easy lay, hence all the why cant I get a meet/ whats wrong with my profile threads, but it still doesnt change that the site is a swingers site. I think actually it's a site run by a web developer that exists for profit. If the market regards it as a sex site - that's what it is. but it isnt, its actually a site created by swingers for swingers, thats what it is, because some come along and use it for other things doesnt change that, its still what it is, you may use a hammer to put a screw in, doesnt make it a screw driver." It was created by swingers for swingers... who sold it. But what is swinging? Is it not recreational sex? Swinging does still involve sex doesn't it? Things haven't moved on that far have they? I know it's sometimes hard to tell on the forums, with so many saying they use the site so they have someone to talk to and the sex bit is secondary or somewhere further down the list... but in the main, it is still about having sex isn't it? | |||
"in the main, it is still about having sex isn't it?" It can be hard to tell sometimes but I bloody well hope so. | |||
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"Im in your area today on business do you fancy a meet? Yeh I will just put my shoes on Does anyone actually get a meet like that with no conversation beforehand? ?" Apparently so, last time I put up a thread about it several women said they found the idea exciting. | |||
"I think the attitude that this is a sex site is disrespectful in itself, this is a swingers site given by the name, it is used by others for other things but it doesnt change the fact that fabswingers is a swinging site primarily. Do you walk into WH Smith and demand they make you a horseshoe? why on earth would I do that, wh smith does not claim to be a blacksmith, however fabswingers claims to be a site made by swingers for swingers which is what makes it primarily a swingers site, like I originally said it gets used for other things, because its easy and free to access and many now join thinking they will get an easy lay, hence all the why cant I get a meet/ whats wrong with my profile threads, but it still doesnt change that the site is a swingers site. I think actually it's a site run by a web developer that exists for profit. If the market regards it as a sex site - that's what it is. but it isnt, its actually a site created by swingers for swingers, thats what it is, because some come along and use it for other things doesnt change that, its still what it is, you may use a hammer to put a screw in, doesnt make it a screw driver. erm you really need to look into the reality - the company that runs this site is owned by one man. Kind of ironic that it should be run by a single man "the "reality" is that fabswingers is a swinging site created by swingers for swingers, because its been sold since the beginning or that some use it for other things doesnt change that, and why would it be ironic that a single man runs it (if that is true) cant he be a swinger, its simply a swinging site that some use for whatever reason they like. | |||
"I think the attitude that this is a sex site is disrespectful in itself, this is a swingers site given by the name, it is used by others for other things but it doesnt change the fact that fabswingers is a swinging site primarily. Do you walk into WH Smith and demand they make you a horseshoe? why on earth would I do that, wh smith does not claim to be a blacksmith, however fabswingers claims to be a site made by swingers for swingers which is what makes it primarily a swingers site, like I originally said it gets used for other things, because its easy and free to access and many now join thinking they will get an easy lay, hence all the why cant I get a meet/ whats wrong with my profile threads, but it still doesnt change that the site is a swingers site. I think actually it's a site run by a web developer that exists for profit. If the market regards it as a sex site - that's what it is. but it isnt, its actually a site created by swingers for swingers, thats what it is, because some come along and use it for other things doesnt change that, its still what it is, you may use a hammer to put a screw in, doesnt make it a screw driver. It was created by swingers for swingers... who sold it. But what is swinging? Is it not recreational sex? Swinging does still involve sex doesn't it? Things haven't moved on that far have they? I know it's sometimes hard to tell on the forums, with so many saying they use the site so they have someone to talk to and the sex bit is secondary or somewhere further down the list... but in the main, it is still about having sex isn't it?" I didnt say it wasnt, but there are sex sites out there, I cant name them as its against the rules, but you know, the sort you can take your pick and be relieved of a bit cash for the pleasure, those are sex sites, this is a swingers site, although like I said some do use it for other things, cheating/ 1 on 1 casual sex amongst other things, thats the point I was making, I wasnt trying to say people dont have sex here. | |||
" I didnt say it wasnt, but there are sex sites out there, I cant name them as its against the rules, but you know, the sort you can take your pick and be relieved of a bit cash for the pleasure, those are sex sites, this is a swingers site, although like I said some do use it for other things, cheating/ 1 on 1 casual sex amongst other things, thats the point I was making, I wasnt trying to say people dont have sex here." Ahhhhhhhh, sorry. I get what you are saying now. | |||
"Im in your area today on business do you fancy a meet? Yeh I will just put my shoes on Does anyone actually get a meet like that with no conversation beforehand? ?" It may surprise you but women (and even couples) send this sort of message also. Don't make the assumption that because someone says 'yes' and agrees in principle that no conversation can or will take place before final details are exchanged. | |||
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"the "reality" is that fabswingers is a swinging site created by swingers for swingers, because its been sold since the beginning or that some use it for other things doesnt change that, and why would it be ironic that a single man runs it (if that is true) cant he be a swinger, its simply a swinging site that some use for whatever reason they like." It doesn't take a huge amount of investigation to learn about the owner - maybe spend a few seconds looking into it. The 'ironic' was a joke based on the stick single men get, but somewhat wasted on somebody hell bent on trying to win an argument however pointless it may be. Call it whatever you want - it'll still be a sex site. | |||
POF wouldnt accept me, question 12 what do you like most in a woman ... the right answer wasnt my dick  | |||
"the "reality" is that fabswingers is a swinging site created by swingers for swingers, because its been sold since the beginning or that some use it for other things doesnt change that, and why would it be ironic that a single man runs it (if that is true) cant he be a swinger, its simply a swinging site that some use for whatever reason they like. It doesn't take a huge amount of investigation to learn about the owner - maybe spend a few seconds looking into it. The 'ironic' was a joke based on the stick single men get, but somewhat wasted on somebody hell bent on trying to win an argument however pointless it may be. Call it whatever you want - it'll still be a sex site." how can I win/lose an argument that isnt there, the facts to differentiate are there for all to see, doesnt matter if some choose to call it a sex site, the name and description tells a different story. | |||
you win - you win - you win
It's a SWINGERS SITE - not a sex site, no, no, no, no, definitely not a sex site, a SWINGERS SITE.
And even better it's a FAB swingers site - it says so in the title - look It's only FAB SWINGING on this site - woo hoo
Now how does one go about getting a fuck on here? | |||
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"Bit childish really" Unashamedly so | |||
"Bit childish really Unashamedly so "nice. | |||
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"I thought this site was for adults. " as did I. | |||
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"If you prefer a more serious response.. I think the suggestion that it is 'disrespectful' to consider the site a sex site as opposed to a 'swingers site' is... actually not something I give the remotest shit about. But I'm happy to argue the case during periods of extreme boredom." Do you not think its time you grew up a bit, your last 2 comments have been very childish, I didnt ask you to comment everytime I have, I simply pointed out some facts to differentiate between different types of sites, you have taken some kind of offence to this, and have now become childish towards me. | |||
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"I haven't taken any offence. I am however beginning to find your complete lack of humour, failure to accept any version of reality besides your own and nagging petty jibes, very, very tedious. This is a sex site. There are other sex sites for swingers that don't have 'swinging' in the name - does that mean they're not actually real swingers sites?! The original question related to a site with the name fish! Is that just for pond life? What do you think happens most from this site - couples meeting for sex with other couples?" incase you didnt notice I said it at the very beginning and ill say it again just incase you missed it, this is a swingers site, created by swingers for swingers, however it is used for other things aswell now, but is still primarily a swingers site, the site you mention with a fish, is primarily a dating site, but gets used for other things, there are sex sites out there also, obviously mentioning no names so I dont break the rules, but the likes of which you can take your pick and they will relieve you of a bit of cash for the pleasure, yes sex happens here, yes sex is a big part of swinging, but this site is not a sex site. | |||
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"I thought this site was for adults. " After all this time you still believe that? | |||
"I think I may know why there's a national brick shortage "very grown up of you. | |||
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