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Proud to be English?

By *-and-K OP Couple over a year ago

Back of Beyond

Yes I am so what pisses me off?

Nobody seems to give a toss about pride in their country until the world cup or some other big footy comp comes around. Then you have hoards of people flying the cross of St George from cars, houses, damnit even wearing it as shorts or shirts.

Its not a footy emblem for Gods Sake. If you have pride in your country fly the flag from your house all the time like the Americans do, otherwise find something else to show your support for footy.

(From not a footy fan

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

here here

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

And the England team represents England in the biggest sports event the world has in less than a week. Why should you limit people being patriotic even if its a sports way?

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago
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Well I think its great to see all the flags out to support the team

Its the world cup and people love the tourament,it brings people together and gives them something else to think and talk about for a while instead of the usual boring stuff

Theres nothing stopping anyone from flying them all year round,theres some round here that have flags flying all the time too

Im not a footie fan either but I like the anticipation and the excitement it brings

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"And the England team represents England in the biggest sports event the world has in less than a week. Why should you limit people being patriotic even if its a sports way?"

Like that answer...and surely we wouldn't want flags about all the time like the americans! So let the footy fans be patriotic during the World Cup, and if the OP wants to fly a flag at a different time for a different reason, then they should do so!

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

the government is concerned that penis's are gettin smaller so to do research they are asking every man with a penis size of 3 inches or less to fly a white flag with red cross on it on their cars and houses.....

jokin guys before the abuse comes!!! xx

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

I love being welsh and being able to speak the language especially now i live in england.

I have a mini welsh flag in my garden and celebrate st davids day on march 1st every year.

I have been brought up to be proud of my heritage.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

what does beeing english mean these days anyway?

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By *atisfy janeWoman over a year ago

Torquay

Born in England with English parentage?

Not sure really

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By *etillanteWoman over a year ago

Be England what she will,

With all her faults she is my country still.

Charles Churchill

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By *he BananamanMan over a year ago

WORCESTERSHIRE

i fly my flags on car out of footy season but people ask if i am flying flags for a big upcoming football tournament?,i tell them no!,its more than football!,i am flying my flags because i can fly my flag!.

i got stopped flying from car though when working on heathrow airport as loose flags could cause damage to jet engines as flying debris but i fly out of season too!.

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By *atisfy janeWoman over a year ago

Torquay

How do you get under low bridges with a flagpole sticking out of your sunroof?

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

The old Labour Gestapo would have frowned upon anyone flying a flag that demonstrated English patriotism but I'm relieved to see that the new government has no such agenda and flagpoles are appearing all over England, erected euphoriously by English men and women who are relishing in their newfound freedom to express how proud they are to be English without the fear of being labelled a racist. (so long as it's within council guidelines and doesn't pose a threat to public safety).

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Oh, to be in England

Now that April's there,

And whoever wakes in England

Sees, some morning, unaware,

That the lowest boughs and the brushwood sheaf

Round the elm-tree bole are in tiny leaf,

While the chaffinch sings on the orchard bough

In England - now!

And after April, when May follows,

And the whitethroat builds, and all the swallows

Hark! where my blossomed pear-tree in the hedge

Leans to the field and scatters on the clover

Blossoms and dewdrops - at the bent spray's edge

That's the wise thrush; he sings each song twice over,

Lest you should think he never could recapture

The first fine careless rapture!

And though the fields look rough with hoary dew,

All will be gay when noontide wakes anew

The buttercups, the little children's dower, -

Far brighter than this gaudy melon-flower!

~~ Robert Browning

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By *atisfy janeWoman over a year ago

Torquay

It has never been illegal in England to fly the flag of St George, it's a myth dreamed up by the Daily Mail and the Daily Express.

I am surprised that people ever believed it had been made illegal, why are some people taken in so easily?

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"It has never been illegal in England to fly the flag of St George, it's a myth dreamed up by the Daily Mail and the Daily Express.

I am surprised that people ever believed it had been made illegal, why are some people taken in so easily?"

I didn't say it was illegal, I said it was frowned upon.

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By *atisfy janeWoman over a year ago

Torquay

Frowned upon?

Said who?

It's a load of rubbish stoked up by the right wing press, like the bloke on here who said the police stopped his car and asked him to take his England shirt off.....

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By *he BananamanMan over a year ago

WORCESTERSHIRE

the daily mirror take a very dim view of people flying the flag of st george,they would prefer it to be all red with no white on it at all!.

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By *he BananamanMan over a year ago

WORCESTERSHIRE

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Frowned upon?

Said who?

It's a load of rubbish stoked up by the right wing press, like the bloke on here who said the police stopped his car and asked him to take his England shirt off.....

Quote from Daily Mirror:

In February this year, taxi drivers in Southampton were threatened with having their licences suspended by the city council if they did not remove St George's Cross stickers and the slogan "English-speaking driver" from their cabs.

Quote from News & Star:

A Carlisle man has been ordered to take down his St George’s cross – because he tied it to a council-owned lamp-post.

Ian Wildey with his flagIan Wildey, 57, hoisted the flag up the lamp-post outside his home, in Levens Drive, Morton, last week in honour of St George’s Day.

But, on Monday, Mr Wildey said that council workers turned up with a cherry picker and demanded that he take the flag down.

Carlisle City Council said that Mr Wildey, a former soldier who now works as a taxi driver in the city, was asked to remove the flag because he hadn’t asked for permission to put it up.

Mr Whiley explained, "I’ve lived here for 25 years and I’ve been putting it up all that time and I’ve never been told to take it down before. I put lights up at Christmas time and we raised £600 for the hospice this year."

Quote from Daily Star:

In Worksop, Notts, police ordered a woman to take flags down from her balcony after complaints from people from other countries.

Chris Gregory, also from Worksop, said police in Lincoln told him to remove flags from his car.

Quote from Metro.co.uk:

Ahead of the last World Cup in 2006, firemen in Barking were told to remove a St George's Cross flag from their fire station after erecting it without permission.

There were also reports of children being sent home from school for wearing clothing displaying the England flag.

Quote from Bannerbox News Archive:

man who wanted to show his support for the England football team by blanketing the front of his home with St George's Cross flags has been told to take them down for health and safety reasons.

Karl Staples created the display outside his home in Weston, Southampton as England's footballers prepare to compete in the upcoming World Cup. But council health and safety officers said the flags could present a fire hazard and ordered that he remove them.

The 20-year-old Tesco employee said it was just the kind of support that the national team needed. “I just want to get people in the mood – I’m definitely in the mood, I can’t wait, so let’s get ready. If the players see stuff like that it’s going to boost them on a bit, but if they don’t they’re going to think ‘there’s no-one behind us’.”

He said he was amazed that on the two occasions he's been warned to take them down – once following an officer's visit and once in a phone call – the flags have been called racist.

Southampton City Council's housing boss, Phil Williams, refuted that, however, and said the council wanted to minimise risk. They said they did not want a repeat of the fire at Shirley Towers in April, which claimed the lives of two firefighters.

So all these reports are false huh?

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By *he BananamanMan over a year ago

WORCESTERSHIRE

according to our friend in torquay this would be all right wing propoganda!,she does not see the big picture at all!,reckons this is the daily mail or telegraph etc stirring up.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"according to our friend in torquay this would be all right wing propoganda!,she does not see the big picture at all!,reckons this is the daily mail or telegraph etc stirring up.

Well, Torquay is famous for racist hotel proprietors isn't it hehehe

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

What is wrong with flying the flag with pride?, the USA do it in every state all year round, do the immigrants complain there?

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Well I think its great to see all the flags out to support the team

Its the world cup and people love the tourament,it brings people together and gives them something else to think and talk about for a while instead of the usual boring stuff

Theres nothing stopping anyone from flying them all year round,theres some round here that have flags flying all the time too

Im not a footie fan either but I like the anticipation and the excitement it brings"

A lot of councils come down very heavely on people fying flags on their property and use the "health and safety" aspect to stop them.

Bloke up the road had to take his down and he wasnt a happy bunny

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"A lot of councils come down very heavely on people fying flags on their property and use the "health and safety" aspect to stop them.

Bloke up the road had to take his down and he wasnt a happy bunny

health and safety?

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Yer.

They stated in their letter that said flag could fall and hit someone.

The fact it was safely bolted to the wall made no difference to them

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By *he BananamanMan over a year ago

WORCESTERSHIRE

in usa do they not take an oath of aegiance to the flag?.

something we shjould do here for sure!,i fly flag on car all year round and instead of plain tee shirts wear st england footy shirt with 3 lions on or st george flag because i am english and proud!.

if migrants can walk round town centres in native dress i wil wear my footy shirt!.

i think if labour had won another term in government st george flag flying would have been banned!,we would only be allowed to fly the neutral euoropean flag!,our national identity was being watered down by labour and they wanted the word english to be replaced by "european".

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

I got an order in from a catalogue company and they gave me 2 England car flags as a thanks.

Did they not check that i was from Scotland!

I threw them in the bin

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By *atisfy janeWoman over a year ago

Torquay

The erection of flags of any kind above the height of 5.5 metres has nothing to do with law, it has everything to do with the Town and Country Planning Act of 1947.

Flying flags from public hire vehicles or Hackney Carriage licensed vehicles comes under the Act of 1990. It has nothing to do with racism but is done so on the basis of advertising.

You need planning permission to erect a flag above a size of 18"x12" on a commercial building in the United KIngdom (1990 Town and Country Planning Act.

The Union Jack was from 1973, not permitted to be flown on any government or private commercial building except on official days like the Queen's birthday etc. or when the Queen is visiting a public building.

I and my fellow shopkeepers are planning to fly Union Jacks, the RAF and Navy ensigns and the Army flag on our shops to honour our serving troops on 26th June (Armed Forces Day), we had to obtain planning permission to do so because the flags are 5'x3' and are on commercial buildings.

So let us not get planning laws and laws appertaining to the Royal Family mixed up with political correctness.

Incidentally Gordon Brown was the first Prime Minister since Ted Heath to fly the St Georges Cross above Downing Street in 2009 on St Georges Day.

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By *atisfy janeWoman over a year ago

Torquay

"according to our friend in torquay this would be all right wing propoganda!,she does not see the big picture at all!,reckons this is the daily mail or telegraph etc stirring up.

Well, Torquay is famous for racist hotel proprietors isn't it hehehe

Is it?

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Incidentally Gordon Brown was the first Prime Minister since Ted Heath to fly the St Georges Cross above Downing Street in 2009 on St Georges Day."

Did he seek permission from Westminster Council before doing so... or was it simply understood that Brown would do it properly so no permission was needed?

You are being extremely niave if you believe that all of these antiflag waving incidents are to do with laws and H & S issues. They are using the law as a smokescreen to enforce their will upon an unwilling population.

Why aren't ALL trees removed from the sides of roads & carriageways as they present a clear danger to pedestrains and motorists in high winds?

Why are banners allowed to be draped across bridges when there is a clear risk of them breaking loose and falling onto the windscreen of cars passing beneath them (or kids cutting them loose).

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"according to our friend in torquay this would be all right wing propoganda!,she does not see the big picture at all!,reckons this is the daily mail or telegraph etc stirring up.

Well, Torquay is famous for racist hotel proprietors isn't it hehehe

Is it?"

Yes Cybil, my little nest of vipers.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"according to our friend in torquay this would be all right wing propoganda!,she does not see the big picture at all!,reckons this is the daily mail or telegraph etc stirring up.

Well, Torquay is famous for racist hotel proprietors isn't it hehehe

Is it?

Yes Cybil, my little nest of vipers.

que?

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"according to our friend in torquay this would be all right wing propoganda!,she does not see the big picture at all!,reckons this is the daily mail or telegraph etc stirring up.

Well, Torquay is famous for racist hotel proprietors isn't it hehehe

Is it?

Yes Cybil, my little nest of vipers.

que?

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By *uton_coupleCouple over a year ago

luton

we used to have the flag of st george in our window , but after a number of threats etc culminating in a very large brick being thrown , smashing both the window and destroying the flag , we are now terrified of putting another one up

in certain parts of the country , i really dont think people out there know just what it is like

so just to give you an example of what it can be like on certain occasions in luton here is a you tube clip to show you

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oQ02ACbT1Rw

we used to be proud of our country but nowdays at least in our part of the country we live in fear and trepidation

i just hope it doesnt get like this where you are for a few years yet , so you can enjoy englands green and pleasant land

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By *atisfy janeWoman over a year ago

Torquay

I wondered when Immigration would come up.....

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Why should you limit people being patriotic even if its a sports way?

here here.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

threw them in the bin

same as i would have done if they had sent me a scottish flag.

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By *he BananamanMan over a year ago

WORCESTERSHIRE

"I wondered when Immigration would come up.....

you are so so obviously a lefty with no idea of what its like in towns and cities north of exeter at all!.

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By *atisfy janeWoman over a year ago

Torquay

"Why should you limit people being patriotic even if its a sports way?

here here.

Walk down any high street or past any pub this week and you will see St George Cross flags and bunting being hung up and flown for the World Cup, I must have seen over fifty cars yesterday on my drive into work with those england flags on the car windows, anyone would think it has become an imprisonable crime to do so....

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By *atisfy janeWoman over a year ago

Torquay

"I wondered when Immigration would come up.....

you are so so obviously a lefty with no idea of what its like in towns and cities north of exeter at all!."

Actually I lived most of my life in the South East London and North Kent area, I just moved....because I could.

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By *ig badMan over a year ago

Up North :-)

"Yes I am so what pisses me off?

Its not a footy emblem for Gods Sake. If you have pride in your country fly the flag from your house all the time like the Americans do, otherwise find something else to show your support for footy.

(From not a footy fan

I had to smile at this, sorry but its a little a amusing.

First i think everyone should be patriotic if they feel fit and to an extent if you do not support the country you live in then its somewhat strange.

The Amusing bit though is the fact your proud your patriotic but are not pleased that others are. They may well be so over a football team but i would presume most English football fans are patriotic full stop. The football thing is an outlet thats all. Flags on cars is a bit of fun. Its an expression of support like the red nose day putting them on cars etc. Now if you had been a green supporter and was complaining about the flag drag factor on cars you would have had a good point for energy conservation

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"I wondered when Immigration would come up.....

I admire their restraint: I was expecting it after the opening post!

This thread won't last long sadly, as with most interesting threads certain people won't be able to contain themselves and it'll quickly degenerate.

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By *atisfy janeWoman over a year ago

Torquay

"Yes I am so what pisses me off?

Its not a footy emblem for Gods Sake. If you have pride in your country fly the flag from your house all the time like the Americans do, otherwise find something else to show your support for footy.

(From not a footy fan

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I had to smile at this, sorry but its a little a amusing.

First i think everyone should be patriotic if they feel fit and to an extent if you do not support the country you live in then its somewhat strange.

Great post BigBad.....

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

It's a funny thing, this flag flying business.

Only last night I was out walking the dogs and passed a bunch of about 6 flag flying cars which were parked in a supermarket car park close to where we live.

On the way back, the knobheads had left the car park leaving their debris from McDonalds stewn all over the place.

Now we can see that these goons are proud of their country ..

When I see behaviour like this it makes me cringe to be English or British whatever you care to call it

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By *he BananamanMan over a year ago

WORCESTERSHIRE

"Why should you limit people being patriotic even if its a sports way?

here here.

do you think in the approach to the world cup that it will be any different in france,germany,holland italy or south africa?.

no of course it wont!,people all over the world will be behind their own nations team!,it's just that some nerds here think it funny in a warped mind to throw fun at flag fliers re: penis size, but i see lots of ladies driving cars to supermarket or on school run flying the flag from cars too!.

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By *atisfy janeWoman over a year ago

Torquay

"Why should you limit people being patriotic even if its a sports way?

here here.

do you think in the approach to the world cup that it will be any different in france,germany,holland italy or south africa?.

So do I get an apology from you for assuming that because I live in Devon I come from Devon?

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Yes I am so what pisses me off?

Its not a footy emblem for Gods Sake. If you have pride in your country fly the flag from your house all the time like the Americans do, otherwise find something else to show your support for footy.

(From not a footy fan

)

I had to smile at this, sorry but its a little a amusing.

First i think everyone should be patriotic if they feel fit and to an extent if you do not support the country you live in then its somewhat strange.

I disagree with you big fella.

I've yet to travel outside the UK during the European or World cup and come across a group of Brits living in another country that didn't fly their national flags and support their home team and not the country they live in.

My sister lives in Milan, has done for 25 years, longer than she lived in the country of her birth England.

Any national game her husband has his flag she has hers: always cheers for England, I don't think that odd!

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By *ig badMan over a year ago

Up North :-)

"Yes I am so what pisses me off?

Its not a footy emblem for Gods Sake. If you have pride in your country fly the flag from your house all the time like the Americans do, otherwise find something else to show your support for footy.

(From not a footy fan

)

I had to smile at this, sorry but its a little a amusing.

First i think everyone should be patriotic if they feel fit and to an extent if you do not support the country you live in then its somewhat strange.

I disagree with you big fella.

My sister lives in Milan, has done for 25 years, longer than she lived in the country of her birth England.

Any national game her husband has his flag she has hers: always cheers for England, I don't think that odd!"

No you have a point there and i think a good one. To support the place of birth or where your brought up isn't a bad thing but if Italy are playing say Brazil do they support Italy because they live there and feel empathy or do they support Brazil as they prefer any other than Italy?

The ex pat thing is always a funny issue. You can't forget your heritage but you have to have some empathy for the country you live in surely.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Yes I am so what pisses me off?

Its not a footy emblem for Gods Sake. If you have pride in your country fly the flag from your house all the time like the Americans do, otherwise find something else to show your support for footy.

(From not a footy fan

)

I had to smile at this, sorry but its a little a amusing.

First i think everyone should be patriotic if they feel fit and to an extent if you do not support the country you live in then its somewhat strange.

I disagree with you big fella.

My sister lives in Milan, has done for 25 years, longer than she lived in the country of her birth England.

Any national game her husband has his flag she has hers: always cheers for England, I don't think that odd!

The ex pat thing is always a funny issue. You can't forget your heritage but you have to have some empathy for the country you live in surely."

I guess I am lucky that Canada do not have a team in the World Cup...and I am not a footie fan to start with so I do not have to have the dilemma as to which flag I should be flying...

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By *ollyWoman over a year ago

aylesbury

I'm not British but do think that people should be allowed to fly their flag to support their team and country.

What annoys me is having it put on dozens of supermarket brands purely as a cynical marketing ploy. Tesco has the three Lions logo and St George's flag all over the floor. Support your country and team by walking all over them??

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"I'm not British but do think that people should be allowed to fly their flag to support their team and country.

Our local tesco went well over the top with the bunting and flags, the ceiling was almost fully covered with it all and yes, floor graphics all over the place, looked very tacky

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By *he BananamanMan over a year ago

WORCESTERSHIRE

"Why should you limit people being patriotic even if its a sports way?

here here.

do you think in the approach to the world cup that it will be any different in france,germany,holland italy or south africa?.

So do I get an apology from you for assuming that because I live in Devon I come from Devon?

am sorry for that assumption and i do apologise.

devon is a very nice part of the country for sure!,and can see why you moved there from south london,how long have you been living down there?.

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By *atisfy janeWoman over a year ago

Torquay

Accepted... and have lived here for 13 years, came originally from a very multicultural area and grew up amongst people of all nationalities and colours.

I just believe there is good and bad in every race, religion etc.

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By *lueafternoonCouple over a year ago

nottingham

My mother was half English

and I'm half English too

I'm a great big bundle of culture

tied up in the red, white and blue

I'm a fine example of your Essex man

I'm well familiar with the Hindustan

'Cause my neighbors are half English too

My breakfast was half English

and so am I you know

I had a plate of Marmite soldiers

washed down with a cappuccino

And I'll have a veggie curry about once a week

The next day a fry it up as "Bubble 'N' Squeak'

'Cause my appetite's half English

and I'm half English too

Britannia she's half English

She speaks Latin at home

St. George was born in the Lebanon

How he got here I don't know

And those three lions on his shirt

they never sprung from England's dirt

Them lions are half English

And I'm half English too

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Ain't pride in your country against the law or summat over here now?????

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By *lueafternoonCouple over a year ago

nottingham

That's Billy Bragg, by the way

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By *atisfy janeWoman over a year ago

Torquay

"That's Billy Bragg, by the way

And briiliant it is too.....

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By *eakcoupleCouple over a year ago

peak district

Bliiy Bragg is one of these idiots who deny that the English are a people (like most members of the last government). It's OK to be Scots, Welsh, Northern Irish or Southern Irish, but it's not OK to call yourself English. All these other nations have their own parliaments or assemblies, but not us.

Keep flying the flag, be proud you're English. cecil Rhodes said "to be born English is to win first prize in the lottery of life". All the rest are just jealous of us!

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By *he BananamanMan over a year ago

WORCESTERSHIRE

billy bragg i remember him!,is he still alive?,i remember when labour first came into power 13 years ago he was always spouting of what a great labour supporter he is and just like that one hit wonder pop group who sang "things can only get better" he said repeatedly how things would be a lot better under labour,only both have been very very quite this past 5 years!.

they not had much to shout about so i thought they all dead and buried!.

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By *atisfy janeWoman over a year ago

Torquay

Sorry but Billy Bragg says nothing of the sort, what he advocates (and he is absolutely correct) is that as a nation Britain is made up of all sorts over the last Two thousand years.

As 'English' peoples we are made up of Celts, Saxons, Vikings, French, Romans, Germans and god knows what else.

Who can claim to be 'Pure bred English' on here?

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Yes I am so what pisses me off?

Its not a footy emblem for Gods Sake. If you have pride in your country fly the flag from your house all the time like the Americans do, otherwise find something else to show your support for footy.

(From not a footy fan

)

I had to smile at this, sorry but its a little a amusing.

First i think everyone should be patriotic if they feel fit and to an extent if you do not support the country you live in then its somewhat strange.

I disagree with you big fella.

My sister lives in Milan, has done for 25 years, longer than she lived in the country of her birth England.

Any national game her husband has his flag she has hers: always cheers for England, I don't think that odd!

The ex pat thing is always a funny issue. You can't forget your heritage but you have to have some empathy for the country you live in surely."

My brother-in-law is Italian...goes back generations. He natually supports his home team, and should it come down to Italy v Brazil my sister would cheer for the Brazilians (just for the hell of it) and my brother-in-law Italy: naturally!!

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By *-and-K OP Couple over a year ago

Back of Beyond

So all of these Patriotic sports fans are flying the flag for the England team and the country then?

Suppose the England team had its own flag, lets say a red flag with 3 yellow rings on it. The country would now be awash with that flag wouldn't it?

Nope the flag flying exercise has nothing to do with being patriotic to your country.....just its mediocre footy team.

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By *obletonMan over a year ago

A Home Among The Woodland Creatures

Who can claim to be 'Pure bred English' on here?

Morally, Philosopically, Ethically, and even biologically and geneticaly there is only one race - its called the human race.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

I am english and proud of it,even have the english flag tattoed on my shoulder,with these colours dont run underneath it.

the thing that gets to me is, when you fill in any type of form nowadays it says which ethnec background and says british,european etc what happened to the english box on these forms?

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Proud to be Scottish,without a flag hanging from the hoose lol

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By *atisfy janeWoman over a year ago

Torquay

To my knowledge 'British' has always appeared on official forms in the United Kingdom?

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Sorry but Billy Bragg says nothing of the sort, what he advocates (and he is absolutely correct) is that as a nation Britain is made up of all sorts over the last Two thousand years.

As 'English' peoples we are made up of Celts, Saxons, Vikings, French, Romans, Germans and god knows what else.

Who can claim to be 'Pure bred English' on here?

You could say the same about any nation, not just the English. If you go back far enough you'll find Romans were made up of peoples from many different tribes (Etruscans, Raetians, Ligurians, Greeks, and Illyrians among others).

A modern 'pure-bred' English person is one who's grandparents are ALL English, as in they were born here. For my part, I'm am 1/4 Welsh 3/4 English, and that's good enough for me, but I do have Irish connections going back past my grandparents and my surname is French (but I have absolutely no allegiances with anything French, just to clear that up lol)

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By *he BananamanMan over a year ago

WORCESTERSHIRE

so billy brag is still alive then?,and still a labour supporter?,just not shouting how thing were better under a labour government as he now believes it was bloody torture like the rest of the now flat-broke country i suppose?.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"So all of these Patriotic sports fans are flying the flag for the England team and the country then?

Suppose the England team had its own flag, lets say a red flag with 3 yellow rings on it. The country would now be awash with that flag wouldn't it?

Nope the flag flying exercise has nothing to do with being patriotic to your country.....just its mediocre footy team."

The England football team DOES have it's own flag - it's called The St. George's Cross.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"I love being welsh and being able to speak the language especially now i live in england.

I have a mini welsh flag in my garden and celebrate st davids day on march 1st every year.

I have been brought up to be proud of my heritage.

Well said .... We love being welsh and use any excuse to celebrate that fact. I've only ever been to one football game with mr serens (never again he said) so I don't know anything about football, but as others have said it shouldn't be just about sport, our english neighbours seem to have a general identity crisis so come on you lot over the water

mwah xxx

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Who can claim to be 'Pure bred English' on here?

Morally, Philosopically, Ethically, and even biologically and geneticaly there is only one race - its called the human race."

Apart from you tobes ... you really are one of a kind sunshine

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

anyone blamed the immigrants yet i cant be arsed trawling through all the gumph to see!!

as far as im concerned im dual nationality as im british but also scottish with a bit of irish and polish chucked in!!

by all means support your team and do them proud!!!

I like seein english flags flyin from balconies on holiday it shows me who to avoid!!

im sure the majority of immigrants wont really be carin if the flag flyin and im sure the ones that will be abused for flyin their home colours wont mind as they meant to be british innit.....

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Oi what you doing on an english thread get back up ya own end lol xx

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"I love being welsh and being able to speak the language especially now i live in england.

I have a mini welsh flag in my garden and celebrate st davids day on march 1st every year.

I have been brought up to be proud of my heritage.

mwah xxx"

Have you got ANY English in you at all?

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By *atisfy janeWoman over a year ago

Torquay

DNA studies are beginning to show that the English are mostly

Brythonic (Celtic) in origin, in fact the Scots are in DNA research terms less likely in many cases to be pure Celts than the English.

The Cornish claim to be pure Celts is also a phallacy, DNA tests amongst the Cornish have found them less likely to be pure Celts than those born in the Home Counties of England.

The rule of thumb in DNA research is 25 generations (don't ask me why)

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"I love being welsh and being able to speak the language especially now i live in england.

I have a mini welsh flag in my garden and celebrate st davids day on march 1st every year.

I have been brought up to be proud of my heritage.

mwah xxx

Have you got ANY English in you at all?

No wishy .... well not on a regular basis anyway

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Oi what you doing on an english thread get back up ya own end lol xx

shut it you i know all the words to god save the queen im allowed to be here i checked my passport im still counted as british till the tartan terrors get their way then i get a shortbread tin passport!! xx

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Oi what you doing on an english thread get back up ya own end lol xx

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Yes I am so what pisses me off?

Its not a footy emblem for Gods Sake. If you have pride in your country fly the flag from your house all the time like the Americans do, otherwise find something else to show your support for footy.

(From not a footy fan

The only reason the Yanks fly their flag all over the place is to remind half of the buggers where they live.

Most Brits are a bit too sharp to need that clue.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Where can you get the car flags from?

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By *emmefataleWoman over a year ago

dirtybigbadsgirlville

"Where can you get the car flags from? "
the car flag shop

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By *eakcoupleCouple over a year ago

peak district

Morally, Philosopically, Ethically, and even biologically and geneticaly there is only one race - its called the human race."

That's the excuse the last government used to swamp us with immigrants! Fortunately they've been kicked out, so can we now recover our pride in being English, without being made to feel guilty by the marxist 'internationalists'?

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Morally, Philosopically, Ethically, and even biologically and geneticaly there is only one race - its called the human race.

so when its just the "true" british that left who you gonna blame for the state of society?? i really dont know whether to find that remark offensive or feel sorry for you being so narrow minded x

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Well said

Steve

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Where can you get the car flags from? "

Any shop which sells cheap tat.

We have an estate not far from here - it's nicknamed Giro city because very few of them work ..

They've all got lots of tacky flags and bunting - funnily enough they are the same ones who have a million and one flashing santas outside their house at Xmas

Strange old world

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Where can you get the car flags from?

Any shop which sells cheap tat.

We have an estate not far from here - it's nicknamed Giro city because very few of them work ..

They've all got lots of tacky flags and bunting - funnily enough they are the same ones who have a million and one flashing santas outside their house at Xmas

Strange old world "

iv always wondered about that! there ones near me who every christmas set up a thing that could be seen from bloody space how do they afford the electric for it!! xx

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

They probably don't go to work and know how to milk the benefit system

Cynical ? Me ?

Never in a million years

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"They probably don't go to work and know how to milk the benefit system

Cynical ? Me ?

Never in a million years"

they must know somethin! there 3 adults in the house and no one works but every christmas there it is!! we call them the griswalds from national lampoons!! methinks am gonna have to ask them how its done!! x

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By *etitesaraTV/TS over a year ago

rochdale

"DNA studies are beginning to show that the English are mostly

Brythonic (Celtic) in origin, in fact the Scots are in DNA research terms less likely in many cases to be pure Celts than the English.

The Cornish claim to be pure Celts is also a phallacy, DNA tests amongst the Cornish have found them less likely to be pure Celts than those born in the Home Counties of England.

The rule of thumb in DNA research is 25 generations (don't ask me why)"

Er, not quite true Jane.

Well, not according to the book 'Face of Britain' by Dr Robin McKie anyway.

The DNA studies as part of the on-going Human Genome Project have shown that all white, native-born indigenous Britons share approx. 50% of their DNA with the original hunter-gatherer settlers who arrived here before the waters rose approx. 9'000yrs BP.

However, the English strand is distinct from the 'Celtic' DNA. It is basically identical to the DNA from what is now Denmark, in fact it is impossible to differentiate the 'Saxon' & the 'Dane' because they are essentially the same people. According to the book the 'Celtic*' DNA is pretty much extinct amongst those English without a Welsh/Scots/Irish family connection.

In fact, the lowland Scots share a near-identical DNA base with their Southern Neighbours, the modern Scots Sassenach is (so i understand) a Highland word to denote the lowlanders who are in the main descended from the Anglo-Saxon settlers who pushed the Pictish peoples out of the area.

The North-East Highlanders themselves carry a distinct Norwegian gene from the Norse invaders - the Orkneys have no male 'Celtic' DNA whatsoever as the Norse killed all the males and took the women as wives/slaves etc.

*'Celts' also never existed, it is a term created by a Welsh Nationalist in the mid C18th called Edward Llyudd. He took his cue from the Classics & took a Bronze-Age Greek derogatory term meant to denote the people who lived inland from the Ionian Sea (Keltoi=barbarian) and used it erroneously.

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By *etitesaraTV/TS over a year ago

rochdale

"Oi what you doing on an english thread get back up ya own end lol xx

Even the 6th verse?

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By *atisfy janeWoman over a year ago

Torquay

I took my info from the papers of Professor of Genetics at Oxford, Brian Sykes.

Lots of interesting stuff in his work.

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By *etitesaraTV/TS over a year ago

rochdale

"I took my info from the papers of Professor of Genetics at Oxford, Brian Sykes.

Lots of interesting stuff in his work."

Ooh, is it available for public perusal?

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Oi what you doing on an english thread get back up ya own end lol xx

Even the 6th verse?

iv never been in a fit state to count which verse its been when iv been singin it! x

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By *atisfy janeWoman over a year ago

Torquay

"I took my info from the papers of Professor of Genetics at Oxford, Brian Sykes.

Lots of interesting stuff in his work.

Ooh, is it available for public perusal?"

It's published.....

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By *eakcoupleCouple over a year ago

peak district

Morally, Philosopically, Ethically, and even biologically and geneticaly there is only one race - its called the human race.

so when its just the "true" british that left who you gonna blame for the state of society?? i really dont know whether to find that remark offensive or feel sorry for you being so narrow minded x

Personally, we blame the Scots!

Especially the ones called Brown, Darling, Reid, Campbell, Blair, etc!

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Morally, Philosopically, Ethically, and even biologically and geneticaly there is only one race - its called the human race.

so when its just the "true" british that left who you gonna blame for the state of society?? i really dont know whether to find that remark offensive or feel sorry for you being so narrow minded x

Personally, we blame the Scots!

Especially the ones called Brown, Darling, Reid, Campbell, Blair, etc!

oi bugger lugs we will take the blame for everythin except blair!!!

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By *uton_coupleCouple over a year ago

luton

"so billy brag is still alive then?,and still a labour supporter?,just not shouting how thing were better under a labour government as he now believes it was bloody torture like the rest of the now flat-broke country i suppose?."

mr bragg said that he voted lib dem in the last election

his main focus at the moment is to achieve proportional representation

(this week proggrame)

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By *ethot69Couple over a year ago

Merseyside

Might be a bit off the trend here, but whilst I love England in theory, I'm certainly not patriotic about our country as it is.

Chavs on every street corner, bus stops getting bricked in left right and centre, old people afraid to leave their homes, underage drinking, vandalism... add to that a mass degree of xenophobia and racism amongst large sections of our society, exacerbated by ethnic minorities excluding themselves from the British way of life...

It's hard to be patriotic about something that only exists in theory really. England as we know it in our minds died about 20-30 years ago.

But for the decent English (including minorities, I'm no racist!) who live here, I'm proud of us and fully endorse waving the flag for who you believe you are rather than what we as a country actually are. It isn't helped when a Polish bus driver kicks you off the bus for wearing an England shirt, but ah well.

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By *atisfy janeWoman over a year ago

Torquay

Billy Bragg has voted Lib Dem ever since he lived in the West Dorset area, he has voted tactically to keep the Tories out of the seat.

This is borne out of his distaste for Oliver Letwin, the King of the fiddlers.

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By *aucy3Couple over a year ago

glasgow

"Billy Bragg has voted Lib Dem ever since he lived in the West Dorset area, he has voted tactically to keep the Tories out of the seat.

This is borne out of his distaste for Oliver Letwin, the King of the fiddlers."

he wisnae bad on the violin either.

love casper xx

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"I love being welsh and being able to speak the language especially now i live in england.

I have a mini welsh flag in my garden and celebrate st davids day on march 1st every year.

I have been brought up to be proud of my heritage.

mwah xxx

Have you got ANY English in you at all?

No wishy .... well not on a regular basis anyway

You know what's coming next, don't you?

Shall I say it? Do I have to say it? lol

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By *aucy3Couple over a year ago

glasgow

"I love being welsh and being able to speak the language especially now i live in england.

I have a mini welsh flag in my garden and celebrate st davids day on march 1st every year.

I have been brought up to be proud of my heritage.

mwah xxx

Have you got ANY English in you at all?

No wishy .... well not on a regular basis anyway

You know what's coming next, don't you?

Shall I say it? Do I have to say it? lol

thank f*** your back.weve not had a good squauble for ages.a few wee skirmishes.but thats it.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"thank f*** your back.weve not had a good squauble for ages.a few wee skirmishes.but thats it.

Aw, thanks hon, it's nice to have been missed lol... now... who do ya want sorting huh?

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By *aucy3Couple over a year ago

glasgow

"thank f*** your back.weve not had a good squauble for ages.a few wee skirmishes.but thats it.

Aw, thanks hon, it's nice to have been missed lol... now... who do ya want sorting huh?

just get that world cup thread back.thats bound to cause,a bit of a stir.plus me being scottish.i can get all bitter and twisted.what could be better.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

you are paranoid about the mail !!!! no no not illegal 2 fly the flag

flag poles planning permission

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

im flying the flag

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

jane so you can google !

YOUR A LEFTIE

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"jane so you can google !

YOUR A LEFTIE

??????

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

england thirty years ago a much better place no blair no brown no mass immigration and good old MT

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By *he BananamanMan over a year ago

WORCESTERSHIRE

"Billy Bragg has voted Lib Dem ever since he lived in the West Dorset area, he has voted tactically to keep the Tories out of the seat.

This is borne out of his distaste for Oliver Letwin, the King of the fiddlers."

billy bragg soon got out of hackney (or was it barking) he hailed from?,i just cannot stand the little smug toerag!.

talks of tory fiddlers but convenienltly forgets all the crooks and fiddlers like mandelson and peter hain in his beloved labour party!.

tory sleaze?,labour hypocrites!.

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By *atisfy janeWoman over a year ago

Torquay

"jane so you can google !

YOUR A LEFTIE

And you are a Tory Boy....that is until Cameron and co. take you for every penny you have got....then you will be squealing

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By *atisfy janeWoman over a year ago

Torquay

"england thirty years ago a much better place no blair no brown no mass immigration and good old MT"

Oh dear....did an immigrant take your job?

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"jane so you can google !

YOUR A LEFTIE

And you are a Tory Boy....that is until Cameron and co. take you for every penny you have got....then you will be squealing"

As opposed to Brown taking us for every penny we DIDN'T have.

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By *andKCouple over a year ago

Norfolk

Off to Scotland again tomorrow to remind all my Scottish friends what is about to begin and before you all go on about we haven't won anthing yet, we have certainly won more than the Scots and as one boss once said to me

It's better to be a 'has been' than a never was

This is an easy one for me though as two of my colleagues who share an office come from either side of the big Scottish devide, one has blue mug for his coffee the other green and how often do I mix them up when I make the coffee?

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Off to Scotland again tomorrow to remind all my Scottish friends what is about to begin and before you all go on about we haven't won anthing yet, we have certainly won more than the Scots and as one boss once said to me

It's better to be a 'has been' than a never was

ooooohhh thats just mean!! x

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By *andKCouple over a year ago

Norfolk

It's better to be a 'has been' than a never was

ooooohhh thats just mean!! x

mean but sooooooooooooo much fun

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By *he_original_poloWoman over a year ago

a Primark shoebox in Leicester

One word.............KNICKERS!

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By *andKCouple over a year ago

Norfolk

"One word.............KNICKERS!"

and what lovely ones they are too

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By *he_original_poloWoman over a year ago

a Primark shoebox in Leicester

There is so little national pride these days, it’s nice when something comes along (whether that be the footie, a sporting event or whatever) which brings a nation (or at least part of it) together ….. showing support for our national team, optimism, a sense of unity, something to share…. it’s all good.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

yyyyyyyyaaaaaaaaaawwwwwwwwwwwnnnnnnn!!

most of the immigrants round here made their own jobs doin the shit that none of us wanted to do or in jobs that the good ole british unemployed wanted to take or in jobs that were relevant to their culture! you go on and on and on and on about this but you never highlight any of the positives that have came from it or what period of mass immigration that you object to! all this with high unemployment i dont know if its maybe just my attitude but i was out of work there with the uni finishin up for summer break and i now have 2 jobs yes it may just have been luck and my timing, but i now have employment! granted its not the best of wages one on minimum wage one just above it but its a job! there also another 5 vacancies where i am because they cant find staff willing to work 12 hr shifts caring for the elderly what does that say??? its easy to blame the minority when your in the majority but the rot in this country didnt just start with the immigrants it was there before x

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"I love being welsh and being able to speak the language especially now i live in england.

I have a mini welsh flag in my garden and celebrate st davids day on march 1st every year.

I have been brought up to be proud of my heritage.

mwah xxx

Have you got ANY English in you at all?

No wishy .... well not on a regular basis anyway

You know what's coming next, don't you?

Shall I say it? Do I have to say it? lol

Oh don't you go all vanilla on me now

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"yyyyyyyyaaaaaaaaaawwwwwwwwwwwnnnnnnn!!

You say things I'd like to say but I'd be accused of having a chip on my shoulder.

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By *ugby 123Couple over a year ago
Forum Mod

O o O oo

A couple of posts have had to be removed....one because it quoted the one I had to take off..........if you want to post, make sure you don't attack the person you are disagreeing with.

I know threads go off on a tangent at times....but lets not turn this thread into anything sinister please lets just stick to talking about having some pride in our country please.

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By *aucy3Couple over a year ago

glasgow

bloody hell back to bloody immigration.dont blame the immigrants.for wanting something better.blame our immigration policy.although i did hear,they were to blame,for the volcano in iceland.

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By *entscotscplCouple over a year ago

falkirk ish

we are british by birth

but we are scottish by the grace off god llf

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By *leasureDomeMan over a year ago

all over the place

I think the right to fly the flag is important if you wish to ,i have seen people of all races rallying around the England flag when a soccer competition is on ..and that can only be good in terms of unity.

To me, the slow drip feed erosion of our influence as a global power seems more important than flag flying.To me the greatest hit to our independant nation hood was the denial of a referendum on the leakagage of yet more powers to Europe found in the 131,000 pages of the Lisbon treaty. Both major parties promised us one but reneged,treating us as idiots not to be trusted. You can not form a United Europe without the will of all the peoples.

It is in my opinion the biggest Betrayal ever perpetrated by the political elite on its people.

No manifesto commitment ,no promised referendum ,No say, for any of us !

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"RULE"!! BRITANNIA! MARMALADE N JAM 5 CHINEESE CRACKERS UP YA ARSEHOLE GOIN BANG BANG BANG BANG BANG!

Im proud to british!!

i fly the cross os st george everytime england plays!

flags on the house!

flags on the car too!

Im british through n through!

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By *aucy3Couple over a year ago

glasgow

"A couple of posts have had to be removed....one because it quoted the one I had to take off..........if you want to post, make sure you don't attack the person you are disagreeing with.

I know threads go off on a tangent at times....but lets not turn this thread into anything sinister please lets just stick to talking about having some pride in our country please.

i do love it when you post rugby.someday im going to avert my gaze,and actually read what youve said.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

come on england!!

LETS LIFT THAT BLOODY CUP!! LOL

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By *wsometwosomeCouple over a year ago

its a village

People will hammer me for this, but if you are all so proud of being british and all this flag flying, but take so little care about the surroundings you live in. People know how to fly the flag ,but dont know where the nearest bins are to dispose their rubbish or take bags with them to pick up after their dogs.

I am German by the way and proud of it without flying the flag but then I pick up after my dogs and put my rubbish in the bin. lol Go on then hammer me

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By *ugby 123Couple over a year ago
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O o O oo

"A couple of posts have had to be removed....one because it quoted the one I had to take off..........if you want to post, make sure you don't attack the person you are disagreeing with.

I know threads go off on a tangent at times....but lets not turn this thread into anything sinister please lets just stick to talking about having some pride in our country please.

i do love it when you post rugby.someday im going to avert my gaze,and actually read what youve said.

Ah don't bother, it is normally rubbish anyway

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

well said

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By *he_original_poloWoman over a year ago

a Primark shoebox in Leicester

"People will hammer me for this, but if you are all so proud of being british and all this flag flying, but take so little care about the surroundings you live in. People know how to fly the flag ,but dont know where the nearest bins are to dispose their rubbish or take bags with them to pick up after their dogs.

I am German by the way and proud of it without flying the flag but then I pick up after my dogs and put my rubbish in the bin. lol Go on then hammer me

My dog is dead and I don't throw litter on the floor (or out of the car window).

If there are no bins or ashtrays when I am outside having a smoke I at least try and flick the end down a drain... does that allow me to show some patriotic support for the England squad?

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

here here!

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"yyyyyyyyaaaaaaaaaawwwwwwwwwwwnnnnnnn!!

You say things I'd like to say but I'd be accused of having a chip on my shoulder.

i prefer them on my plate smothered with salt and vinegar!!

iv been accused of many a thing but really dont care i say it as i see it and if someone cant deal with it thats there problem not mine!

be proud of your country reaching the world cup its a great acheivement and i hope they do well! i know if it was scotland i would be flyin the flags etc its good to be proud of your nation and if my neighbour was another nationality i wouldnt mind them flyin it! its the usual im offended brigade that really do have too much time on their hands that get offended and the mass hysteria whipped up around it borders on the bloody stupid!! x

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By *he_original_poloWoman over a year ago

a Primark shoebox in Leicester

Some people can suck the fun out of a whoopee-cushion

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

n sound like mickey mouse! lol

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

oh sweet mother of jesus will you join the bnp or somethin and spout it to them!!

are you not located in spain most of the time anyway?

i think personally if i lived in that area i would move if i was being attacked like that or i would fight back through the police or my local councillor or whatever! there is obviously a problem somewhere! x

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By *he_original_poloWoman over a year ago

a Primark shoebox in Leicester

"oh sweet mother of jesus will you join the bnp or somethin and spout it to them!!

are you not located in spain most of the time anyway?

I dunno they may have a point.... after all, look at Spain and the immigration problem over there…. bloody Johnny-foreigners buying all the cheap accommodation so locals can’t afford a nice house… frying stinky chips… turning all the traditional bars into ‘pubs’ with Sunday lunches... bringing their families over for cheap holidays and reducing the income of those who rely on the tourist trade renting rooms.... terrible state of affairs!

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"oh sweet mother of jesus will you join the bnp or somethin and spout it to them!!

are you not located in spain most of the time anyway?

Is leicester in England??? xx

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By *he_original_poloWoman over a year ago

a Primark shoebox in Leicester

Is leicester in England??? xx

It was last time I checked... don't worry, you won't need a passport

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Is leicester in England??? xx

It was last time I checked... don't worry, you won't need a passport

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"I love being welsh and being able to speak the language especially now i live in england.

I have a mini welsh flag in my garden and celebrate st davids day on march 1st every year.

I have been brought up to be proud of my heritage.

mwah xxx

Have you got ANY English in you at all?

No wishy .... well not on a regular basis anyway

You know what's coming next, don't you?

Shall I say it? Do I have to say it? lol

Oh don't you go all vanilla on me now

Ok then... do you want some.... more even hehe

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

honest genuine non piss ripping uestion here...has the uk ever hosted the world cup? x

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By *he_original_poloWoman over a year ago

a Primark shoebox in Leicester

"honest genuine non piss ripping uestion here...has the uk ever hosted the world cup? x"

1966

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"honest genuine non piss ripping uestion here...has the uk ever hosted the world cup? x

1966 "

cool thanks i wasnt sure!! it brings in a lot of money and tourists etc will it ever be hosted here again?

david cameron flyin the flag above number 10 so there is national pride from the highest level!! and now im sniggerin at my earlier joke about the flag and research!! xx

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Was that a nice thing ya said about super Dave there hun ??? xx

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Was that a nice thing ya said about super Dave there hun ??? xx

in one way yes... but in regards to the penis size and flags joke no lol!! xx

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Was that a nice thing ya said about super Dave there hun ??? xx

in one way yes... but in regards to the penis size and flags joke no lol!! xx

Well its a start

And how long have you been having these thoughts lol xx

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Was that a nice thing ya said about super Dave there hun ??? xx

in one way yes... but in regards to the penis size and flags joke no lol!! xx

Well its a start

And how long have you been having these thoughts lol xx

hey i give credit where its due im not that bitter and twisted. YET!!! XX

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Deep breath and relax lol xx

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Phew eeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee!!

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By *aucy3Couple over a year ago

glasgow

somebody annoy rugby again.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Yeah get out there england! do us proud!!

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By *ushroom7Man over a year ago

Bradford

"That was a party political broadcast on behalf of the British National Party""

Isn't it great to live in a free(ish) democracy.

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By *uton_coupleCouple over a year ago

luton

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By *ugby 123Couple over a year ago
Forum Mod

O o O oo

Ok it has to go........please don't keep coming into ordinary threads and turning them into something that is bordering on racial.

I am going to shut this thread and start another for anyone who wants to be patriotic and get behind the English team in the World cup.

Please don't turn up on there spouting about immigrants.

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