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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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Any one seen this an Essex school and temporarily banned football at lunch time due to the kids inappropriate language. The school even made the kids aware that if the situation did not improve they ban football. The kids still carried on been rude to disrespectful to staff.
Good for the school I say, about time the kids understood the own action will have consequence.
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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I say well done to that school too. Kids watch the football and see the so called roll models swearing at each other and the referees and think it's ok to do so. It's not and a time out for them may be just what they need. |
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We are enjoying a ball free week at our school, the kids are playing hoops skipping and elastic instead.
The boys are not impressed they cant play football at lunch time but its just for one week!!! |
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So...the kids have carried on being rude and disrespectful, therefore it hasn't worked?...
All they've managed to achieve is taking away even more of their physical activity.
And yet, everyone complains about child obesity. 
- Amy. x |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
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"So...the kids have carried on being rude and disrespectful, therefore it hasn't worked?...
All they've managed to achieve is taking away even more of their physical activity.
And yet, everyone complains about child obesity.
- Amy. x"
we have not idea is the kids are still been rude after foot ball was ban. the kids warn be good or we ban it.
As other have side there is more to life than football |
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By *nnyMan
over a year ago
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I'm no fan of football but unless its encouraged from primary school onwards the UK will never produce the world class players needed to last beyond the early stages of major tournaments. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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If you read the article it says the football is a extra addition to the curriculum so they would still be able to be out in the playground at lunch times. They are not being made to sit indoors as many are thinking! |
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Totally ridiculous to ban football at school lunchtime if you ask me. As someone else said already its great exercise for the kids, and if they are really into football passionately its wrong to deny them the freedom to play a sport they love. More practice for them at breaktimes is always improving their skill levels aswel.
If teachers tried to stop me and my mates playing football when i was at school there would have been chaos and uproar. Personally i would've organised a strike of some kind......we're not going back to class unless you let us play football!
Either that or we would've walked out the shcool gates and gone down the local park to play football.
As for the swearing the teachers are never going to stop it, the kids will be swearing as soon as they walk out the school gates at home time anyway. Some of the things teachers come up with these days really are nonsense. |
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"So...the kids have carried on being rude and disrespectful, therefore it hasn't worked?...
All they've managed to achieve is taking away even more of their physical activity.
And yet, everyone complains about child obesity.
- Amy. x"
People also complain about kids being rude to adults and not respecting authority. Seems like teachers can't win, really.
Maybe taking away something they actually care about is a good form of discipline?
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As for the swearing the teachers are never going to stop it, the kids will be swearing as soon as they walk out the school gates at home time anyway. Some of the things teachers come up with these days really are nonsense."
If you read the article, it's not just about swearing but about the kids not following the rules and being disrespectful to staff. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Totally ridiculous to ban football at school lunchtime if you ask me. As someone else said already its great exercise for the kids, and if they are really into football passionately its wrong to deny them the freedom to play a sport they love. More practice for them at breaktimes is always improving their skill levels aswel. This
If teachers tried to stop me and my mates playing football when i was at school there would have been chaos and uproar. Personally i would've organised a strike of some kind......we're not going back to class unless you let us play football!
Either that or we would've walked out the shcool gates and gone down the local park to play football.
As for the swearing the teachers are never going to stop it, the kids will be swearing as soon as they walk out the school gates at home time anyway. Some of the things teachers come up with these days really are nonsense."
And you think it's ok to let primary school kids break the rules and swear and be rude to each other? I'm hoping my kids (who are in primary school) at least get a lot older before they start with the swearing and being rude to people around them. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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My children would have been kept in for a week and had all privileges taken from them if they swore at a teacher. They didn't swear at me and still don't |
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"The kids still carried on been rude to disrespectful to staff".
Ah, I read this wrong. I thought you meant they carried on being rude after the ban.
I know there is more to life than football but I think it ruins the relationship children have with physical activity. If it is something they enjoy, they don't even think about it. They put in more effort and it becomes a natural part of their lives.
I would sooner the school got in contact with me and they lost a priveledge at home. x |
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"We are enjoying a ball free week at our school, the kids are playing hoops skipping and elastic instead.
The boys are not impressed they cant play football at lunch time but its just for one week!!!"
You think its right to deny kids the right to play football then?
I was passionate about football when i was a kid, it was all i wanted to do, there would have been really strong feelings of resentment towards teachers if they tried to stop me playing a sport i love. Sorry but i just think its very wrong to try and stop them playing football. |
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"We are enjoying a ball free week at our school, the kids are playing hoops skipping and elastic instead.
The boys are not impressed they cant play football at lunch time but its just for one week!!!
You think its right to deny kids the right to play football then?
I was passionate about football when i was a kid, it was all i wanted to do, there would have been really strong feelings of resentment towards teachers if they tried to stop me playing a sport i love. Sorry but i just think its very wrong to try and stop them playing football."
Yes if they are swearing...I think the youth need to learn respect and passion of the game and they are not going to learn that from most of the current players are they! |
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Unfortunately children today are paying for the previous generations problems. Maybe if the grown men playing and watching football today weren't so violent, abusive, money grubbing, racist and sectarian then the children would have better role models eh? Children copy their elders so any man moaning about the lack of football should take a look around at his football friends. Maybe if you grew up and stopped causing problems at games, football could be a true sport again instead of an excuse to get d*unk and rowdy. |
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"Unfortunately children today are paying for the previous generations problems. Maybe if the grown men playing and watching football today weren't so violent, abusive, money grubbing, racist and sectarian then the children would have better role models eh? Children copy their elders so any man moaning about the lack of football should take a look around at his football friends. Maybe if you grew up and stopped causing problems at games, football could be a true sport again instead of an excuse to get d*unk and rowdy."
Totally agree, seen and heard some terrible things at the local football park ...... and that's from the kids parents on the touch-lines.  |
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"Unfortunately children today are paying for the previous generations problems. Maybe if the grown men playing and watching football today weren't so violent, abusive, money grubbing, racist and sectarian then the children would have better role models eh? Children copy their elders so any man moaning about the lack of football should take a look around at his football friends. Maybe if you grew up and stopped causing problems at games, football could be a true sport again instead of an excuse to get d*unk and rowdy."
I agree. But banning football in schools is not helping...
and we wonder why the national team is so crap. |
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"Unfortunately children today are paying for the previous generations problems. Maybe if the grown men playing and watching football today weren't so violent, abusive, money grubbing, racist and sectarian then the children would have better role models eh? Children copy their elders so any man moaning about the lack of football should take a look around at his football friends. Maybe if you grew up and stopped causing problems at games, football could be a true sport again instead of an excuse to get d*unk and rowdy."
So anyone who plays/loves/watches football now is a hooligan aswel?
Please don't make general sweeping statements like that as its wrong to tar everyone with the same brush. The vast majority of football players and fans are well behaved and there are plenty of good role models in football, just look at David Beckham now who is a good role model for kids.
There is a small minority of hooligans/idiots/bad role models, yes but i think you'll find that applies to many areas of life and not just football. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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I think football is past saving frankly. I live in Glasgow and the old firm matches are a nitemare. My son is 11 and ive made sure he doesnt get involved AT ALL with football. Andnow children are seeing players bite each other on the field? The decline in football is down to the actions of the players and the supporters. Its a disgusting money making machine that has lost all moral values for the love of money beer and violence. Its a shame coz when i watch the local kids playing the talent is good but the attitude is horrible. Anyone in football blaming the schools for trying their best is a hypocrite. |
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"Unfortunately children today are paying for the previous generations problems. Maybe if the grown men playing and watching football today weren't so violent, abusive, money grubbing, racist and sectarian then the children would have better role models eh? Children copy their elders so any man moaning about the lack of football should take a look around at his football friends. Maybe if you grew up and stopped causing problems at games, football could be a true sport again instead of an excuse to get d*unk and rowdy.
I agree. But banning football in schools is not helping...
and we wonder why the national team is so crap. "
Because they have lost passion...greed has taken over the game...you see the countries where they are not paid half as much as British footballers sweating their guts out..to win a match...look at Algeria and Germany... Algeria were the underdogs yet they put so much effort into the game and didn't roll over and play injured when they got tapped...Britain has lost it's passion and by taking football away for a week it will teach children respect that this is the consequences of your actions...they are not telling them they can't be good at the game or they don't want football played they are teaching them that swearing and abuse will not be tolerated in the game of football |
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There are some foolish comments on this - you'd really have walked out, strikes etc. - at primary school?! Get real.
The only surprising thing about this is that it's news. My children's school has done the same in the past and two things happened: 1. Kids (and some parents) learned there are consequences to actions, and 2. The kids quickly invented all sorts of other games and activities to amuse themselves.
They dealt with it rather more maturely than some of the adults on here would claim to! |
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"David Beckham is a great role model for kids in America. Kids in the UK not so much."
Why do you say that? Beckham has gone far beyond football, he was one of the main faces of the London Olympics and Englands world cup bid alongside Prince William.
Not sure why he can't be a good role model for kids here in the UK and all over the world for that matter? |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
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Football is not the best for role models at all. 3 time of taking a bite of one and still no banded for life. football is not longer about the game just the money.
Try biting someone in rugby and you be banned for life I get on the first one I bet.
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"There are some foolish comments on this - you'd really have walked out, strikes etc. - at primary school?! Get real.
The only surprising thing about this is that it's news. My children's school has done the same in the past and two things happened: 1. Kids (and some parents) learned there are consequences to actions, and 2. The kids quickly invented all sorts of other games and activities to amuse themselves.
They dealt with it rather more maturely than some of the adults on here would claim to!"
Not primary school, but if teachers tried to ban football in the high school i went to there would have been class walk outs and strikes, some of my old school friends were more passionate about football than i am so it would have been chaos to try and ban it. |
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It's the schools fault? This is a parental and societal issue, far deeper than this. There are parents, who think it is entirely normal to: swear openly in public and at home, in front of their children. Who swear openly and blame and despise anything that is different to them. They blame the teachers for their offsprings shortcomings and yet are abusive when their shortcomings are put before them. When all our children are spoon fed is the tv, sport, internet, media that we get, is it surprising that our kids are growing up too soon, with access to things they shouldn't be seeing? We need to take responsibility for our kids. Time doesn't cost anything and it should start at home and everyone is guilty of not spending enough quality time with their kids. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Walk outs and stikes? What the fuck? 
Can I strike for the rest of the day and go home?  "
Yeah my feet ache....bollocks to work im on strike until I get a foot massage |
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By (user no longer on site)
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You think its right to deny kids the right to play football then?
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I didn't realise it was actually someone's right to be able to play football.
And it's only football that has been banned The children are not being locked in a room, they can still take part in other activities. Many people bemoan the lack of discipline in schools, here is a school that is punishing children for bad behaviour and it is getting slated. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"There are some foolish comments on this - you'd really have walked out, strikes etc. - at primary school?! Get real.
The only surprising thing about this is that it's news. My children's school has done the same in the past and two things happened: 1. Kids (and some parents) learned there are consequences to actions, and 2. The kids quickly invented all sorts of other games and activities to amuse themselves.
They dealt with it rather more maturely than some of the adults on here would claim to!
Not primary school, but if teachers tried to ban football in the high school i went to there would have been class walk outs and strikes, some of my old school friends were more passionate about football than i am so it would have been chaos to try and ban it."
Well at my secondary school we did go on strike. The teachers then locked everybody out! |
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"Walk outs and stikes? What the fuck?
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Yes, lol, when you are passionate about something you fight for the right to partake in that passion. Banning football at the high school i went to would never have worked, the teachers would have been fighting a losing battle right from the start. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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No but this is a primary school. If I heard children swearing at primary school they'd be in a whole load of trouble, regardless of who/when/where/why.
The school is correct to punish them. |
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"Walk outs and stikes? What the fuck?
Yes, lol, when you are passionate about something you fight for the right to partake in that passion. Banning football at the high school i went to would never have worked, the teachers would have been fighting a losing battle right from the start. "
So where does discipline and respect come into it?
Its a fuck you attitude and I don't agree with it |
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"It's the schools fault? This is a parental and societal issue, far deeper than this. There are parents, who think it is entirely normal to: swear openly in public and at home, in front of their children. Who swear openly and blame and despise anything that is different to them. They blame the teachers for their offsprings shortcomings and yet are abusive when their shortcomings are put before them. When all our children are spoon fed is the tv, sport, internet, media that we get, is it surprising that our kids are growing up too soon, with access to things they shouldn't be seeing? We need to take responsibility for our kids. Time doesn't cost anything and it should start at home and everyone is guilty of not spending enough quality time with their kids. "
Agree, i think it is a parental issue and nothing to do with schools or teachers. |
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"It's the schools fault? This is a parental and societal issue, far deeper than this. There are parents, who think it is entirely normal to: swear openly in public and at home, in front of their children. Who swear openly and blame and despise anything that is different to them. They blame the teachers for their offsprings shortcomings and yet are abusive when their shortcomings are put before them. When all our children are spoon fed is the tv, sport, internet, media that we get, is it surprising that our kids are growing up too soon, with access to things they shouldn't be seeing? We need to take responsibility for our kids. Time doesn't cost anything and it should start at home and everyone is guilty of not spending enough quality time with their kids.
Agree, i think it is a parental issue and nothing to do with schools or teachers."
But they were misbehaving at school in front of the teachers. |
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I was glad when my son gave up football for cricket. We took him out of the area so we didn't come across the typical attitude from local parents. I was asked by a parent why he didn't play for a local team,her question was answered when they played my son's team and she saw how argumentative and rude they were. Football was worse. My grandson plays football and we have been lucky to only come across a couple of bad mouth managers and parents. The players however often get riled by bad tackles and rivalry |
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"It's the schools fault? This is a parental and societal issue, far deeper than this. There are parents, who think it is entirely normal to: swear openly in public and at home, in front of their children. Who swear openly and blame and despise anything that is different to them. They blame the teachers for their offsprings shortcomings and yet are abusive when their shortcomings are put before them. When all our children are spoon fed is the tv, sport, internet, media that we get, is it surprising that our kids are growing up too soon, with access to things they shouldn't be seeing? We need to take responsibility for our kids. Time doesn't cost anything and it should start at home and everyone is guilty of not spending enough quality time with their kids.
Agree, i think it is a parental issue and nothing to do with schools or teachers."
So kids should not been sent to Jail for punching an old women in the face. Nothing to do this the cops as it is "parental issue" |
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"Walk outs and stikes? What the fuck?
Yes, lol, when you are passionate about something you fight for the right to partake in that passion. Banning football at the high school i went to would never have worked, the teachers would have been fighting a losing battle right from the start.
So where does discipline and respect come into it?
Its a fuck you attitude and I don't agree with it"
Discipline and respect is a key part of football when it is taught in the right way. Simply banning it is not the answer. I think the bad behaviour and swearing is more of a parental issue which stems from home and is not as simple as playing a game of football in a school playground. |
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"Unfortunately children today are paying for the previous generations problems. Maybe if the grown men playing and watching football today weren't so violent, abusive, money grubbing, racist and sectarian then the children would have better role models eh? Children copy their elders so any man moaning about the lack of football should take a look around at his football friends. Maybe if you grew up and stopped causing problems at games, football could be a true sport again instead of an excuse to get d*unk and rowdy.
I agree. But banning football in schools is not helping...
and we wonder why the national team is so crap.
Because they have lost passion...greed has taken over the game...you see the countries where they are not paid half as much as British footballers sweating their guts out..to win a match...look at Algeria and Germany... Algeria were the underdogs yet they put so much effort into the game and didn't roll over and play injured when they got tapped...Britain has lost it's passion and by taking football away for a week it will teach children respect that this is the consequences of your actions...they are not telling them they can't be good at the game or they don't want football played they are teaching them that swearing and abuse will not be tolerated in the game of football "
Again, I agree.
But attacking football at grass-roots is not a solution. I'm sure the school could have dealt with the culprits on an individual level without a ban on the game as a whole. |
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"It's the schools fault? This is a parental and societal issue, far deeper than this. There are parents, who think it is entirely normal to: swear openly in public and at home, in front of their children. Who swear openly and blame and despise anything that is different to them. They blame the teachers for their offsprings shortcomings and yet are abusive when their shortcomings are put before them. When all our children are spoon fed is the tv, sport, internet, media that we get, is it surprising that our kids are growing up too soon, with access to things they shouldn't be seeing? We need to take responsibility for our kids. Time doesn't cost anything and it should start at home and everyone is guilty of not spending enough quality time with their kids.
Agree, i think it is a parental issue and nothing to do with schools or teachers.
So kids should not been sent to Jail for punching an old women in the face. Nothing to do this the cops as it is "parental issue""
Are you seriously comparing kids using a few swearwords while playing football to punching an old woman in the face????
WTF! |
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"Walk outs and stikes? What the fuck?
Yes, lol, when you are passionate about something you fight for the right to partake in that passion. Banning football at the high school i went to would never have worked, the teachers would have been fighting a losing battle right from the start.
So where does discipline and respect come into it?
Its a fuck you attitude and I don't agree with it
Discipline and respect is a key part of football when it is taught in the right way. Simply banning it is not the answer. I think the bad behaviour and swearing is more of a parental issue which stems from home and is not as simple as playing a game of football in a school playground. "
If I was a teacher id ban it too until the lesson had been learnt,its unacceptable for children to be using offensive language at school,in my care my rules would apply and the sooner they learn the lesson the sooner they get their football back  |
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"Unfortunately children today are paying for the previous generations problems. Maybe if the grown men playing and watching football today weren't so violent, abusive, money grubbing, racist and sectarian then the children would have better role models eh? Children copy their elders so any man moaning about the lack of football should take a look around at his football friends. Maybe if you grew up and stopped causing problems at games, football could be a true sport again instead of an excuse to get d*unk and rowdy.
I agree. But banning football in schools is not helping...
and we wonder why the national team is so crap.
Because they have lost passion...greed has taken over the game...you see the countries where they are not paid half as much as British footballers sweating their guts out..to win a match...look at Algeria and Germany... Algeria were the underdogs yet they put so much effort into the game and didn't roll over and play injured when they got tapped...Britain has lost it's passion and by taking football away for a week it will teach children respect that this is the consequences of your actions...they are not telling them they can't be good at the game or they don't want football played they are teaching them that swearing and abuse will not be tolerated in the game of football
Again, I agree.
But attacking football at grass-roots is not a solution. I'm sure the school could have dealt with the culprits on an individual level without a ban on the game as a whole."
Agree, Suarez bit someone so he gets an individual ban. Should all the players in the world cup be banned because of Suarez's actions aswel?
That seems to be the way this school has dealt with this situation. |
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But attacking football at grass-roots is not a solution. I'm sure the school could have dealt with the culprits on an individual level without a ban on the game as a whole."
Sometimes to get all the culprits you have to penalize everyone. |
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"It's the schools fault? This is a parental and societal issue, far deeper than this. There are parents, who think it is entirely normal to: swear openly in public and at home, in front of their children. Who swear openly and blame and despise anything that is different to them. They blame the teachers for their offsprings shortcomings and yet are abusive when their shortcomings are put before them. When all our children are spoon fed is the tv, sport, internet, media that we get, is it surprising that our kids are growing up too soon, with access to things they shouldn't be seeing? We need to take responsibility for our kids. Time doesn't cost anything and it should start at home and everyone is guilty of not spending enough quality time with their kids.
Agree, i think it is a parental issue and nothing to do with schools or teachers.
So kids should not been sent to Jail for punching an old women in the face. Nothing to do this the cops as it is "parental issue"
Are you seriously comparing kids using a few swearwords while playing football to punching an old woman in the face????
WTF! "
Yes I am, it is all about consequence for their own actions. A point some people seem to be missing.
You cannot say the school does not have the power to punish kids for breaking school rules. The kids where told what would happen if they did not follow school rules. They need to understand that will happen if they do not.
A small number of them think they can do what they want and nothing will happen to them and end up punching old people for fun. School rules on day the law of the land next. If rules and not set and enforced we all live in anarchy.
Anyone remember the so called "happy slapping" fad a few years back?
It is the reasonability of both schools and parents working together to teach kids right from wrong and their own action have consequence.
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"It's the schools fault? This is a parental and societal issue, far deeper than this. There are parents, who think it is entirely normal to: swear openly in public and at home, in front of their children. Who swear openly and blame and despise anything that is different to them. They blame the teachers for their offsprings shortcomings and yet are abusive when their shortcomings are put before them. When all our children are spoon fed is the tv, sport, internet, media that we get, is it surprising that our kids are growing up too soon, with access to things they shouldn't be seeing? We need to take responsibility for our kids. Time doesn't cost anything and it should start at home and everyone is guilty of not spending enough quality time with their kids.
Agree, i think it is a parental issue and nothing to do with schools or teachers.
So kids should not been sent to Jail for punching an old women in the face. Nothing to do this the cops as it is "parental issue"
Are you seriously comparing kids using a few swearwords while playing football to punching an old woman in the face????
WTF!
Yes I am, it is all about consequence for their own actions. A point some people seem to be missing.
You cannot say the school does not have the power to punish kids for breaking school rules. The kids where told what would happen if they did not follow school rules. They need to understand that will happen if they do not.
A small number of them think they can do what they want and nothing will happen to them and end up punching old people for fun. School rules on day the law of the land next. If rules and not set and enforced we all live in anarchy.
Anyone remember the so called "happy slapping" fad a few years back?
It is the reasonability of both schools and parents working together to teach kids right from wrong and their own action have consequence.
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Surely then a better approach would be to ban the individual kids who were misbehaving or swearing?
Banning football for everyone in the school is not the right answer. |
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Ultimately a childs behaviour lies with their parents. Thats why my son isnt involved in football. He has a dozen other amazing hobbies that dont incite violence, bad behaviour and greed. That was my choice and im glad i made it. Teachers are educators not parents. If your child behaves badly at school and is punished you should look to your own parenting not the teachers. Denial is a terrible thing. |
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My kids (and husband) play for football, rugby and cricket clubs. There's a very obvious difference in culture at football matches. The children dive theatrically in matches (like on the telly), argue with the referee (like on the telly), argue and have tantrums with each other (like on the telly). And there are more arsehole parents at the football matches (and they're bigger arseholes).
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But attacking football at grass-roots is not a solution. I'm sure the school could have dealt with the culprits on an individual level without a ban on the game as a whole.
Sometimes to get all the culprits you have to penalize everyone. "
Very lazy and solves nothing. You've taken away football due to swearing but then it rears it's ugly head in a game of British bulldog. Do you then ban that too?
I think it's a case of identifying the culprits and engaging with them along with their parents. Teachers and parents should be working together not against each other as both have to discipline the child at different levels.
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But attacking football at grass-roots is not a solution. I'm sure the school could have dealt with the culprits on an individual level without a ban on the game as a whole.
Sometimes to get all the culprits you have to penalize everyone.
Very lazy and solves nothing. You've taken away football due to swearing but then it rears it's ugly head in a game of British bulldog. Do you then ban that too?
I think it's a case of identifying the culprits and engaging with them along with their parents. Teachers and parents should be working together not against each other as both have to discipline the child at different levels.
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Why don't you pop along to the school and advise them? I'm sure they'd be grateful for the wisdom. |
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But attacking football at grass-roots is not a solution. I'm sure the school could have dealt with the culprits on an individual level without a ban on the game as a whole.
Sometimes to get all the culprits you have to penalize everyone.
Very lazy and solves nothing. You've taken away football due to swearing but then it rears it's ugly head in a game of British bulldog. Do you then ban that too?
I think it's a case of identifying the culprits and engaging with them along with their parents. Teachers and parents should be working together not against each other as both have to discipline the child at different levels.
Why don't you pop along to the school and advise them? I'm sure they'd be grateful for the wisdom."
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"There are some foolish comments on this - you'd really have walked out, strikes etc. - at primary school?! Get real.
The only surprising thing about this is that it's news. My children's school has done the same in the past and two things happened: 1. Kids (and some parents) learned there are consequences to actions, and 2. The kids quickly invented all sorts of other games and activities to amuse themselves.
They dealt with it rather more maturely than some of the adults on here would claim to!
Not primary school, but if teachers tried to ban football in the high school i went to there would have been class walk outs and strikes, some of my old school friends were more passionate about football than i am so it would have been chaos to try and ban it."
no you wouldnt, you would have been at school a few years ahead of me, and although it wasnt as strict as 10 years earlier you would of done as you were told or be expelled and answer to your parents, I was as passionate as you about playing football and 1 of the punishments if I stepped out of line was to kick me off the school team, it was a lesson that my actions brought punishment and I had to earn my way back through my behaviour if I wanted it.
in this case they arent talking about a total ban on football, they are taking it away from them during there breaks, in an attempt to give out a lesson that there actions bring consequence, they were warned and now its happened, if they learn the lesson then it will be a good thing done and if they dont then no doubt the school will try something else. |
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"Unfortunately children today are paying for the previous generations problems. Maybe if the grown men playing and watching football today weren't so violent, abusive, money grubbing, racist and sectarian then the children would have better role models eh? Children copy their elders so any man moaning about the lack of football should take a look around at his football friends. Maybe if you grew up and stopped causing problems at games, football could be a true sport again instead of an excuse to get d*unk and rowdy.
I agree. But banning football in schools is not helping...
and we wonder why the national team is so crap.
Because they have lost passion...greed has taken over the game...you see the countries where they are not paid half as much as British footballers sweating their guts out..to win a match...look at Algeria and Germany... Algeria were the underdogs yet they put so much effort into the game and didn't roll over and play injured when they got tapped...Britain has lost it's passion and by taking football away for a week it will teach children respect that this is the consequences of your actions...they are not telling them they can't be good at the game or they don't want football played they are teaching them that swearing and abuse will not be tolerated in the game of football
Again, I agree.
But attacking football at grass-roots is not a solution. I'm sure the school could have dealt with the culprits on an individual level without a ban on the game as a whole.
Agree, Suarez bit someone so he gets an individual ban. Should all the players in the world cup be banned because of Suarez's actions aswel?
That seems to be the way this school has dealt with this situation."
how do you no it was only 1 child using inappropriate language and not all of them. |
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"There are some foolish comments on this - you'd really have walked out, strikes etc. - at primary school?! Get real.
The only surprising thing about this is that it's news. My children's school has done the same in the past and two things happened: 1. Kids (and some parents) learned there are consequences to actions, and 2. The kids quickly invented all sorts of other games and activities to amuse themselves.
They dealt with it rather more maturely than some of the adults on here would claim to!
Not primary school, but if teachers tried to ban football in the high school i went to there would have been class walk outs and strikes, some of my old school friends were more passionate about football than i am so it would have been chaos to try and ban it.
no you wouldnt, you would have been at school a few years ahead of me, and although it wasnt as strict as 10 years earlier you would of done as you were told or be expelled and answer to your parents, I was as passionate as you about playing football and 1 of the punishments if I stepped out of line was to kick me off the school team, it was a lesson that my actions brought punishment and I had to earn my way back through my behaviour if I wanted it.
in this case they arent talking about a total ban on football, they are taking it away from them during there breaks, in an attempt to give out a lesson that there actions bring consequence, they were warned and now its happened, if they learn the lesson then it will be a good thing done and if they dont then no doubt the school will try something else."
My understanding is they banned it for everyone at break times. Its the wrong approach, surely would be better to identify the culprits and place individual bans on them. Why punish everyone for the actions of a few?
As for the high school i attended, we used to have around 40 kids in our year playing football on the school field every breaktime, 20-a-side, and if the teachers removed those from the school team we would'nt have had a school team, lol. Besides we were allowed out of school grounds back in those days so if the teachers banned it we would've just gone out of school grounds with our ball and played down the local public park instead.
I do find it incredible at a time when childhood obesity is trying to be tackled and we all want kids to be more active and healthy, how banning football can even be considered as an option is beyond me?
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But attacking football at grass-roots is not a solution. I'm sure the school could have dealt with the culprits on an individual level without a ban on the game as a whole.
Sometimes to get all the culprits you have to penalize everyone.
Very lazy and solves nothing. You've taken away football due to swearing but then it rears it's ugly head in a game of British bulldog. Do you then ban that too?
I think it's a case of identifying the culprits and engaging with them along with their parents. Teachers and parents should be working together not against each other as both have to discipline the child at different levels.
Why don't you pop along to the school and advise them? I'm sure they'd be grateful for the wisdom.
Oh thanks, think I will. You have the address? "
It won't be hard to find - details are in the news article, or did you not read it? |
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"Unfortunately children today are paying for the previous generations problems. Maybe if the grown men playing and watching football today weren't so violent, abusive, money grubbing, racist and sectarian then the children would have better role models eh? Children copy their elders so any man moaning about the lack of football should take a look around at his football friends. Maybe if you grew up and stopped causing problems at games, football could be a true sport again instead of an excuse to get d*unk and rowdy.
I agree. But banning football in schools is not helping...
and we wonder why the national team is so crap.
Because they have lost passion...greed has taken over the game...you see the countries where they are not paid half as much as British footballers sweating their guts out..to win a match...look at Algeria and Germany... Algeria were the underdogs yet they put so much effort into the game and didn't roll over and play injured when they got tapped...Britain has lost it's passion and by taking football away for a week it will teach children respect that this is the consequences of your actions...they are not telling them they can't be good at the game or they don't want football played they are teaching them that swearing and abuse will not be tolerated in the game of football
Again, I agree.
But attacking football at grass-roots is not a solution. I'm sure the school could have dealt with the culprits on an individual level without a ban on the game as a whole.
Agree, Suarez bit someone so he gets an individual ban. Should all the players in the world cup be banned because of Suarez's actions aswel?
That seems to be the way this school has dealt with this situation.
how do you no it was only 1 child using inappropriate language and not all of them."
...and how do you know it was all the kids using bad language and not just one of them? A fair guess would be some of the kids swore and some did'nt. In the interest of fairness then, ban the individuals who swore and let the ones who did'nt swear carry on playing football. |
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But attacking football at grass-roots is not a solution. I'm sure the school could have dealt with the culprits on an individual level without a ban on the game as a whole.
Sometimes to get all the culprits you have to penalize everyone.
Very lazy and solves nothing. You've taken away football due to swearing but then it rears it's ugly head in a game of British bulldog. Do you then ban that too?
I think it's a case of identifying the culprits and engaging with them along with their parents. Teachers and parents should be working together not against each other as both have to discipline the child at different levels.
Why don't you pop along to the school and advise them? I'm sure they'd be grateful for the wisdom.
Oh thanks, think I will. You have the address?
It won't be hard to find - details are in the news article, or did you not read it?"
So it is. Ain't you the helpful one. |
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"David Beckham is a great role model for kids in America. Kids in the UK not so much.why not , it shows what you can be and where you can go with a bit beleive"
I'm sorry but i cant see how Beckham is a role model for anything good. Unless being rich is high on ur priority list. |
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"There are some foolish comments on this - you'd really have walked out, strikes etc. - at primary school?! Get real.
The only surprising thing about this is that it's news. My children's school has done the same in the past and two things happened: 1. Kids (and some parents) learned there are consequences to actions, and 2. The kids quickly invented all sorts of other games and activities to amuse themselves.
They dealt with it rather more maturely than some of the adults on here would claim to!
Not primary school, but if teachers tried to ban football in the high school i went to there would have been class walk outs and strikes, some of my old school friends were more passionate about football than i am so it would have been chaos to try and ban it.
no you wouldnt, you would have been at school a few years ahead of me, and although it wasnt as strict as 10 years earlier you would of done as you were told or be expelled and answer to your parents, I was as passionate as you about playing football and 1 of the punishments if I stepped out of line was to kick me off the school team, it was a lesson that my actions brought punishment and I had to earn my way back through my behaviour if I wanted it.
in this case they arent talking about a total ban on football, they are taking it away from them during there breaks, in an attempt to give out a lesson that there actions bring consequence, they were warned and now its happened, if they learn the lesson then it will be a good thing done and if they dont then no doubt the school will try something else.
My understanding is they banned it for everyone at break times. Its the wrong approach, surely would be better to identify the culprits and place individual bans on them. Why punish everyone for the actions of a few?
As for the high school i attended, we used to have around 40 kids in our year playing football on the school field every breaktime, 20-a-side, and if the teachers removed those from the school team we would'nt have had a school team, lol. Besides we were allowed out of school grounds back in those days so if the teachers banned it we would've just gone out of school grounds with our ball and played down the local public park instead.
I do find it incredible at a time when childhood obesity is trying to be tackled and we all want kids to be more active and healthy, how banning football can even be considered as an option is beyond me?
Everyone is entitled to their own opinion so can accept others think differently. "
if it works it is not the wrong approach, it is only the wrong approach if it fails, and walking away and playing your game elsewhere is different to staging a protest walkout and defying what your teachers say. |
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"Unfortunately children today are paying for the previous generations problems. Maybe if the grown men playing and watching football today weren't so violent, abusive, money grubbing, racist and sectarian then the children would have better role models eh? Children copy their elders so any man moaning about the lack of football should take a look around at his football friends. Maybe if you grew up and stopped causing problems at games, football could be a true sport again instead of an excuse to get d*unk and rowdy.
I agree. But banning football in schools is not helping...
and we wonder why the national team is so crap.
Because they have lost passion...greed has taken over the game...you see the countries where they are not paid half as much as British footballers sweating their guts out..to win a match...look at Algeria and Germany... Algeria were the underdogs yet they put so much effort into the game and didn't roll over and play injured when they got tapped...Britain has lost it's passion and by taking football away for a week it will teach children respect that this is the consequences of your actions...they are not telling them they can't be good at the game or they don't want football played they are teaching them that swearing and abuse will not be tolerated in the game of football
Again, I agree.
But attacking football at grass-roots is not a solution. I'm sure the school could have dealt with the culprits on an individual level without a ban on the game as a whole.
Agree, Suarez bit someone so he gets an individual ban. Should all the players in the world cup be banned because of Suarez's actions aswel?
That seems to be the way this school has dealt with this situation.
how do you no it was only 1 child using inappropriate language and not all of them.
...and how do you know it was all the kids using bad language and not just one of them? A fair guess would be some of the kids swore and some did'nt. In the interest of fairness then, ban the individuals who swore and let the ones who did'nt swear carry on playing football."
I did not make a comment assuming it was 1 or all of the children you did, thats why I asked the question. |
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If it wasn't football but skipping,would people still be up in arms about children being punished for not doing as they were asked,because that is the crux of it
They were told not to do something or they would be punished,they ignored authority so have now been penalised
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"If it wasn't football but skipping,would people still be up in arms about children being punished for not doing as they were asked,because that is the crux of it
They were told not to do something or they would be punished,they ignored authority so have now been penalised
Life is tough..get over it,learn to listen to who is in charge of you or become a headmaster and make your own rules up"
exactly this, the issue is they were warned it would be taken away, they took no notice, now they must learn that there actions have consequences. |
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By *xpresMan
over a year ago
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"Any one seen this an Essex school and temporarily banned football at lunch time due to the kids inappropriate language. The school even made the kids aware that if the situation did not improve they ban football. The kids still carried on been rude to disrespectful to staff.
Good for the school I say, about time the kids understood the own action will have consequence.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-essex-28092574"
so lets just cut off there legs and surgicly attach Xbox controls to the stups..
this is a piss take kids playing football is natural. the more exercise our kids get the better |
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"Totally ridiculous to ban football at school lunchtime if you ask me. As someone else said already its great exercise for the kids, and if they are really into football passionately its wrong to deny them the freedom to play a sport they love. More practice for them at breaktimes is always improving their skill levels aswel.
If teachers tried to stop me and my mates playing football when i was at school there would have been chaos and uproar. Personally i would've organised a strike of some kind......we're not going back to class unless you let us play football!
Either that or we would've walked out the shcool gates and gone down the local park to play football.
As for the swearing the teachers are never going to stop it, the kids will be swearing as soon as they walk out the school gates at home time anyway. Some of the things teachers come up with these days really are nonsense."
It's not nonsense at all. Children have to be taught social behaviour. If they are permitted to swear whenever and wherever they won't understand that in certain circumstances it is inappropriate.
Swearing at school should never be tolerated.
My daughter was taught early on that this was unacceptable. To this day she doesn't swear in front of me though I am sure she swears in other circumstances. She's 32 now.
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"Totally ridiculous to ban football at school lunchtime if you ask me. As someone else said already its great exercise for the kids, and if they are really into football passionately its wrong to deny them the freedom to play a sport they love. More practice for them at breaktimes is always improving their skill levels aswel.
If teachers tried to stop me and my mates playing football when i was at school there would have been chaos and uproar. Personally i would've organised a strike of some kind......we're not going back to class unless you let us play football!
Either that or we would've walked out the shcool gates and gone down the local park to play football.
As for the swearing the teachers are never going to stop it, the kids will be swearing as soon as they walk out the school gates at home time anyway. Some of the things teachers come up with these days really are nonsense."
Sounds like there was uproar before they banned it. I work for a primary and a secondary school and if you don't stop the bad behaviour now by taking away privileges they will walk all over the staff. Kids have been given enough ammunition as it is by authorities |
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