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"Can i still post in the lounge?? "And we wait for it to begin  | |||
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"Yes but you have to show your passport if you want to post in the London forum "Most normal people have to already | |||
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"Hello Captain, as an expatriate Scot, I sincerely hope that the no vote prevails. The Salmond promises are tempting but realistically are pie in the sky. Remember Darian, a history lesson worth learning. Alec" Hehe I am not sure Alex Salmond has any plans for a colony in the new world. | |||
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"Yes but you have to show your passport if you want to post in the London forum "But what about me????? Where will I be able to post?????? 
As an Englishman who lived in London for 16 years and has been up here over 6, where will I be able to post??? Or can I just post anywhere as I don't care anymore??  | |||
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"Hello Captain, as an expatriate Scot, I sincerely hope that the no vote prevails. The Salmond promises are tempting but realistically are pie in the sky. Remember Darian, a history lesson worth learning. Alec" Eck prefers pie suppers. | |||
"Hello Captain, as an expatriate Scot, I sincerely hope that the no vote prevails. The Salmond promises are tempting but realistically are pie in the sky. Remember Darian, a history lesson worth learning. Alec" I will stick to remembering 1979 when Scotland won an overall majority vote of 51.62% for Independence and Westminster cooked the books Westminster is full of corruption, crooks and millionaire MP's who use their roll of MP as a status symbol with no concern of running the country. I will be glad to walk away from Westminster corruption and sit back and watch Cameron lead the rUK into another unjustified war | |||
"If they vote yes then all scots in England should be sent home " Why? | |||
"If they vote yes then all scots in England should be sent home Why?" Because most of the scottish posters who live in England are in favour of the Yes vote | |||
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"If they vote yes then all scots in England should be sent home Why? Because most of the scottish posters who live in England are in favour of the Yes vote " so what about all the English people living in Scotland? should they be sent home too? never heard so much pish | |||
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"there's a reason jk rowling has donated such a large sum to the YES campaign; and that's because we'd be condemned to CONDEM gov't forever afterwards otherwise "Er, didn't she actually contribute to the NO campaign? | |||
"Hello Captain, as an expatriate Scot, I sincerely hope that the no vote prevails. The Salmond promises are tempting but realistically are pie in the sky. Remember Darian, a history lesson worth learning. Alec I will stick to remembering 1979 when Scotland won an overall majority vote of 51.62% for Independence and Westminster cooked the books Westminster is full of corruption, crooks and millionaire MP's who use their roll of MP as a status symbol with no concern of running the country. I will be glad to walk away from Westminster corruption and sit back and watch Cameron lead the rUK into another unjustified war" Of course, all Scottish Assembly members are as honest as the day is long. I think the fundamental issue there is one that cannot ever be solved. The only politicians are people who want to be politicians. | |||
"there's a reason jk rowling has donated such a large sum to the YES campaign; and that's because we'd be condemned to CONDEM gov't forever afterwards otherwise
Er, didn't she actually contribute to the NO campaign?"She did indeed! | |||
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"If they vote yes then all scots in England should be sent home Why? Because most of the scottish posters who live in England are in favour of the Yes vote " Did we send all Indians who lived in the UK home when India voted for independence? Did we send all Rhodesians home when Zimbabwe became independent? Did we send home all people from the former Yugoslavia when we sent our men and women to die for the independence of the states therein? Or are you just showing why so many Scots want nothing more to do with a country full of people who think like you? | |||
"Yes the new Scottish Lounge." Only allowed to go in the Scottish chatroom aswel. | |||
"there's a reason jk rowling has donated such a large sum to the YES campaign; and that's because we'd be condemned to CONDEM gov't forever afterwards otherwise
Er, didn't she actually contribute to the NO campaign?"She contributed to the better together campaign, it pissed Alex Salmond off so has to be a good thing.  | |||
"Personally, I would prefer to keep the union as I firmly believe we are stronger together. However, if the Scots do go their own way, the next one says "Thats, legal tendrrrrrr",I can tell them "No!. It isn't!" "It isn`t now!!! | |||
"Personally, I would prefer to keep the union as I firmly believe we are stronger together. However, if the Scots do go their own way, the next one says "Thats, legal tendrrrrrr",I can tell them "No!. It isn't!"
It isn`t now!!!"It is as legal as bank of England issued notes. All notes are accepted as a courtesy. They are simply a token representing their value in Sterling Silver which the issuing bank in question promises to pay the bearer upon demand. | |||
"Personally, I would prefer to keep the union as I firmly believe we are stronger together. However, if the Scots do go their own way, the next one says "Thats, legal tendrrrrrr",I can tell them "No!. It isn't!"
It isn`t now!!!"It is as legal as bank of England issued notes. All notes are accepted as a courtesy. They are simply a token representing their value in Sterling Silver which the issuing bank in question promises to pay the bearer upon demand. | |||
"Personally, I would prefer to keep the union as I firmly believe we are stronger together. However, if the Scots do go their own way, the next one says "Thats, legal tendrrrrrr",I can tell them "No!. It isn't!"
It isn`t now!!!"It is .... I spent a Scottish fiver last week | |||
"If they vote yes then all scots in England should be sent home Why? Because most of the scottish posters who live in England are in favour of the Yes vote " As recently as May 2014 "About two-thirds (66%) of English people living in Scotland intend to vote No on September 18 compared with 42% of Scots, a Panelbase poll for the Sunday Times and Heart Radio found." | |||
"Personally, I would prefer to keep the union as I firmly believe we are stronger together. However, if the Scots do go their own way, the next one says "Thats, legal tendrrrrrr",I can tell them "No!. It isn't!"
It isn`t now!!!
It is .... I spent a Scottish fiver last week"See the post above! Retailers have every right to refuse it as they also can if you`re going to try and pay for something costing £1,000s with penny coins! Believe English banks may also refuse it as it costs them to repatriate it. And that has come from a bank manager I know! | |||
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"there's a reason jk rowling has donated such a large sum to the YES campaign; and that's because we'd be condemned to CONDEM gov't forever afterwards otherwise
Er, didn't she actually contribute to the NO campaign?"I should probably leave the topic of politics well alone and stick to being blonde and painting my nails  | |||
"Personally, I would prefer to keep the union as I firmly believe we are stronger together. However, if the Scots do go their own way, the next one says "Thats, legal tendrrrrrr",I can tell them "No!. It isn't!" "You can tell them that now. Scottish notes aren't legal tender, even in Scotland. No notes are legal tender in Scotland. Scottish notes are legal currency, not legal tender. | |||
"Do the Scots living in England get to vote? " No " Do the English in Scotland get to vote?" Yes | |||
"Do the Scots living in England get to vote? Do the English in Scotland get to vote?" no to the 1st... yes to the 2nd | |||
"Do the Scots living in England get to vote? Do the English in Scotland get to vote?" People in Wales and NI do not get to vote, why would England? Everyone in Scotland over 16 gets to vote. UKIP are not prevalent in Scotland so foreigners are not yet disenfranchised. | |||
"We will never get a labour gov again so vote YES" You really want to be ruled by a bunch of millionaire posh boys for ever? Where I live in Norfolk you could put up a sheep with a blue ribbon and it would get voted in. That has not helped at all. | |||
"If they vote yes then all scots in England should be sent home Why? Because most of the scottish posters who live in England are in favour of the Yes vote " Speak for yourself | |||
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"Yes but you have to show your passport if you want to post in the London forum "Quite right | |||
"We (English) look forward to rebuilding hadrians wall and keeping you heathens on the poor cold side where we don't have to listen to all the bleating about oil. How the hell are you going to pay your welfare bill to keep u all off work??" Haha when we get all the oil it will be your bleating. "Please Mr Salmond, can we have some more? " | |||
"there's a reason jk rowling has donated such a large sum to the YES campaign; and that's because we'd be condemned to CONDEM gov't forever afterwards otherwise "I thought she donated to the better together camp not the yes campaign!!!!!  | |||
"We (English) look forward to rebuilding hadrians wall and keeping you heathens on the poor cold side where we don't have to listen to all the bleating about oil. How the hell are you going to pay your welfare bill to keep u all off work?? Haha when we get all the oil it will be your bleating. "Please Mr Salmond, can we have some more? "" we will have more money because the leeches south of the border will be cut off from their money supply. | |||
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"We (English) look forward to rebuilding hadrians wall and keeping you heathens on the poor cold side where we don't have to listen to all the bleating about oil. How the hell are you going to pay your welfare bill to keep u all off work?? I(rick) watched a programme on ch4 apparently 90% of gas and oil will be in scottish waters if they go independent however at the moment the rigs are only at half capacity on production due to prices and demand. the other point they made was, that it will be a legal nightmare for immigration as they wont be part of the eu, so will be classed as non eu immigrants meaning, if they dont get a visa they will be illegal immigrants whether thats right, im not sure, just quoting a debate i watched. Haha when we get all the oil it will be your bleating. "Please Mr Salmond, can we have some more? "" | |||
"Gambling with the livelihoods of 5 million people on a set of wildly optimistic numbers just because you don't like a certain political party being in charge, while the party you do like hardly covered itself in glory when it had it's turn? Ooooh yes please, give me some of that good shit. Sounds like an ace plan. Nothing can possibly go wrong. " Is this still a jokey thread or did it go all serious further up the board? Ive read it bottom upwards and got as far as this post | |||
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"Cccccombo breaker Sorry Ive never eaten an oatcake" Nice with cheese. And chutney | |||
"Cccccombo breaker Sorry Ive never eaten an oatcakeNice with cheese. And chutney "Or just butter - washed down by a hauf. | |||
"We (English) look forward to rebuilding hadrians wall and keeping you heathens on the poor cold side where we don't have to listen to all the bleating about oil. How the hell are you going to pay your welfare bill to keep u all off work?? Haha when we get all the oil it will be your bleating. "Please Mr Salmond, can we have some more? " we will have more money because the leeches south of the border will be cut off from their money supply." NURRRRSE! The person in the next room is drooling and talking funny again
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"Can the Scott's really afford to go it alone? If they leave the United Kingdom, it will have huge ramifications. The chancellor & the Bank of England have already said the Scott's will NOT have our currency, the Pound. They will have to have their own economy with their own interest rates & VAT, separate from the rest of the UK. They will have to finance & support their own NHS service as the one they use is for the UK. They will have to finance their own welfare system for the unemployed, set up their own insurance & tax contributions, because the one they use is for the UK. Set up their own vehicle database & drivers licences & road tax system, because the one they use is for the UK. As for sending the Scott's home who live in England, most of them will HAVE to be deported back unless they have a current up to date passport. I may be wrong but if I remember, Scotland is not part of the EU... the United Kingdom is. Scotland will no longer be a part of the UK & therefore no longer part of the EU. Only EU member states are allowed freedom to cross borders. All Scott's with NO passports will become illegal immigrants with no rights to cross the border into the UK. Then the Scott's will have to qualify for the new immigration rules. No savings, no job to go to, No Entry. Is all that agro & insecurity really worth it? What I've highlighted is only the tip of a huge aggravating iceberg for the Scott's. If Scotland do get the "yes", I think, in 2-3 years, Scotland's economy will be in a worse state than Spain or Greece & they will be begging the UK to come back." thank fekk my names not Scott
sounds like all people called Scott should get down to their local registry office and change their name before september, the consequences for them are clearly going to be disasterous | |||
"I hope it is a Yes vote. I'm all in favour of Independence from Scotland!" | |||
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"Oh I need to go get my popcorn for this & a super sized IRN BRU. This could be better than the premier on Sky Movies. " ok shove over a bit and pass the popcorn | |||
"Hello Captain, as an expatriate Scot, I sincerely hope that the no vote prevails. The Salmond promises are tempting but realistically are pie in the sky. Remember Darian, a history lesson worth learning. Alec Eck prefers pie suppers." Big Eck...??? | |||
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"Can the Scott's really afford to go it alone? If they leave the United Kingdom, it will have huge ramifications. The chancellor & the Bank of England have already said the Scott's will NOT have our currency, the Pound. They will have to have their own economy with their own interest rates & VAT, separate from the rest of the UK. They will have to finance & support their own NHS service as the one they use is for the UK. They will have to finance their own welfare system for the unemployed, set up their own insurance & tax contributions, because the one they use is for the UK. Set up their own vehicle database & drivers licences & road tax system, because the one they use is for the UK. As for sending the Scott's home who live in England, most of them will HAVE to be deported back unless they have a current up to date passport. I may be wrong but if I remember, Scotland is not part of the EU... the United Kingdom is. Scotland will no longer be a part of the UK & therefore no longer part of the EU. Only EU member states are allowed freedom to cross borders. All Scott's with NO passports will become illegal immigrants with no rights to cross the border into the UK. Then the Scott's will have to qualify for the new immigration rules. No savings, no job to go to, No Entry. Is all that agro & insecurity really worth it? What I've highlighted is only the tip of a huge aggravating iceberg for the Scott's. If Scotland do get the "yes", I think, in 2-3 years, Scotland's economy will be in a worse state than Spain or Greece & they will be begging the UK to come back." actually re:passports.... people who didn't want a "scottish" passport would be allowed to keep the rUK passport they have, and with regards to borders and border control.... its not been decided yet what will happen.. althought it would be weird if they had to set up controls at berwick and carlisle for example to check every train going north-south..... the only things that annoy me about this debate, is the people who want to leave want to keep sterling... well shouldn't the "rest of us" get a say in that? 
also, they like to blame westminster for all their ill's convieniently forgetting they have had their own scottish parliament for the last 20 years.... which has decided everything in local issues on a local level in scotland..... | |||
"Can the Scott's really afford to go it alone? If they leave the United Kingdom, it will have huge ramifications. The chancellor & the Bank of England have already said the Scott's will NOT have our currency, the Pound. They will have to have their own economy with their own interest rates & VAT, separate from the rest of the UK. They will have to finance & support their own NHS service as the one they use is for the UK. They will have to finance their own welfare system for the unemployed, set up their own insurance & tax contributions, because the one they use is for the UK. Set up their own vehicle database & drivers licences & road tax system, because the one they use is for the UK. As for sending the Scott's home who live in England, most of them will HAVE to be deported back unless they have a current up to date passport. I may be wrong but if I remember, Scotland is not part of the EU... the United Kingdom is. Scotland will no longer be a part of the UK & therefore no longer part of the EU. Only EU member states are allowed freedom to cross borders. All Scott's with NO passports will become illegal immigrants with no rights to cross the border into the UK. Then the Scott's will have to qualify for the new immigration rules. No savings, no job to go to, No Entry. Is all that agro & insecurity really worth it? What I've highlighted is only the tip of a huge aggravating iceberg for the Scott's. If Scotland do get the "yes", I think, in 2-3 years, Scotland's economy will be in a worse state than Spain or Greece & they will be begging the UK to come back." Seriously I'm a no voter but that's just totally ridiculous | |||
"Oh I need to go get my popcorn for this & a super sized IRN BRU. This could be better than the premier on Sky Movies. ok shove over a bit and pass the popcorn "Just as well I bought the super sized bucket. Oh & you won't need a passport Jack. It seems the ConDems & Mr Milliband (considering his _iews on Border Controls) has conveniently forgotten The Schengen Agreement along with its implementing Convention. Google it & read who is in/out of it. The chuckle is Mr Cameron doesn't seem to want to be in Europe as it currently is & doesn't have the political influence or clout to change much in Europe. Or for that matter the Schengen Agreement. Do they also intend to throw up borders in Ireland then? Unlikely. | |||
"Can the Scott's really afford to go it alone? If they leave the United Kingdom, it will have huge ramifications. The chancellor & the Bank of England have already said the Scott's will NOT have our currency, the Pound. They will have to have their own economy with their own interest rates & VAT, separate from the rest of the UK. They will have to finance & support their own NHS service as the one they use is for the UK. They will have to finance their own welfare system for the unemployed, set up their own insurance & tax contributions, because the one they use is for the UK. Set up their own vehicle database & drivers licences & road tax system, because the one they use is for the UK. As for sending the Scott's home who live in England, most of them will HAVE to be deported back unless they have a current up to date passport. I may be wrong but if I remember, Scotland is not part of the EU... the United Kingdom is. Scotland will no longer be a part of the UK & therefore no longer part of the EU. Only EU member states are allowed freedom to cross borders. All Scott's with NO passports will become illegal immigrants with no rights to cross the border into the UK. Then the Scott's will have to qualify for the new immigration rules. No savings, no job to go to, No Entry. Is all that agro & insecurity really worth it? What I've highlighted is only the tip of a huge aggravating iceberg for the Scott's. If Scotland do get the "yes", I think, in 2-3 years, Scotland's economy will be in a worse state than Spain or Greece & they will be begging the UK to come back." This load of almost total rubbish put a smile on my face so thanks | |||
"Oh I need to go get my popcorn for this & a super sized IRN BRU. This could be better than the premier on Sky Movies. ok shove over a bit and pass the popcorn
Just as well I bought the super sized bucket. Oh & you won't need a passport Jack. It seems the ConDems & Mr Milliband (considering his _iews on Border Controls) has conveniently forgotten The Schengen Agreement along with its implementing Convention. Google it & read who is in/out of it. The chuckle is Mr Cameron doesn't seem to want to be in Europe as it currently is & doesn't have the political influence or clout to change much in Europe. Or for that matter the Schengen Agreement.
Do they also intend to throw up borders in Ireland then? Unlikely.
"there are borders between North and South, How they police them is their own business Gimp | |||
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"Saucy, it's not 'your' currency. It is the UK's currency and we're as entitled to it as the rest of you. I notice none of you moan about the other countries that use it, several unofficially, and Cameron and co can't stop them using it, either. "But if you get independence you will no longer be part of the United Kingdom..Hence no Currency | |||
"Saucy, it's not 'your' currency. It is the UK's currency and we're as entitled to it as the rest of you. I notice none of you moan about the other countries that use it, several unofficially, and Cameron and co can't stop them using it, either. "Cameron et al do not have the £ Sterling, they have a '£' that they peg to the £ Sterling. The bottom line is you go to Cameron (or any other country that pegs it's currency to Sterling) and they are more than happy to accept £ Sterling in any outlet, but you cant spend a Cameroon £ anywhere in the UK. | |||
"Saucy, it's not 'your' currency. It is the UK's currency and we're as entitled to it as the rest of you. I notice none of you moan about the other countries that use it, several unofficially, and Cameron and co can't stop them using it, either.
Cameron et al do not have the £ Sterling, they have a '£' that they peg to the £ Sterling. The bottom line is you go to Cameron (or any other country that pegs it's currency to Sterling) and they are more than happy to accept £ Sterling in any outlet, but you cant spend a Cameroon £ anywhere in the UK.
"it alright we will just use gless irn bru bottles you get 20p back on them bad boys  | |||
"Saucy, it's not 'your' currency. It is the UK's currency and we're as entitled to it as the rest of you. I notice none of you moan about the other countries that use it, several unofficially, and Cameron and co can't stop them using it, either.
Cameron et al do not have the £ Sterling, they have a '£' that they peg to the £ Sterling. The bottom line is you go to Cameron (or any other country that pegs it's currency to Sterling) and they are more than happy to accept £ Sterling in any outlet, but you cant spend a Cameroon £ anywhere in the UK.
"theres an even better reason for not accepting cameroon pounds, and thats because the currency in cameroon is francs  | |||
"Can the Scott's really afford to go it alone? If they leave the United Kingdom, it will have huge ramifications. The chancellor & the Bank of England have already said the Scott's will NOT have our currency, the Pound. They will have to have their own economy with their own interest rates & VAT, separate from the rest of the UK. They will have to finance & support their own NHS service as the one they use is for the UK. They will have to finance their own welfare system for the unemployed, set up their own insurance & tax contributions, because the one they use is for the UK. Set up their own vehicle database & drivers licences & road tax system, because the one they use is for the UK. As for sending the Scott's home who live in England, most of them will HAVE to be deported back unless they have a current up to date passport. I may be wrong but if I remember, Scotland is not part of the EU... the United Kingdom is. Scotland will no longer be a part of the UK & therefore no longer part of the EU. Only EU member states are allowed freedom to cross borders. All Scott's with NO passports will become illegal immigrants with no rights to cross the border into the UK. Then the Scott's will have to qualify for the new immigration rules. No savings, no job to go to, No Entry. Is all that agro & insecurity really worth it? What I've highlighted is only the tip of a huge aggravating iceberg for the Scott's. If Scotland do get the "yes", I think, in 2-3 years, Scotland's economy will be in a worse state than Spain or Greece & they will be begging the UK to come back." Instead of spending time on this forum you should actually spend some time doing research on the Scottish referendum, read up on the YES campaign and the better together campaign, read the white paper EDUCATE YOURSELF BEFORE POSTING It will save you from making an embarasing fool of yourself, like you have just done if you do research you will find all the answers to the scaremongering tactics you have written or was this your only intention to scaremonger? | |||
"Personally, I would prefer to keep the union as I firmly believe we are stronger together. However, if the Scots do go their own way, the next one says "Thats, legal tendrrrrrr",I can tell them "No!. It isn't!"
It isn`t now!!!
It is .... I spent a Scottish fiver last week
See the post above! Retailers have every right to refuse it as they also can if you`re going to try and pay for something costing £1,000s with penny coins! Believe English banks may also refuse it as it costs them to repatriate it. And that has come from a bank manager I know!"If Scotland votes 'yes' & England leaves the EU, your argument will turn full circle - because the pound will be worth zilch!! ......maybe it'll be renamed the Rupee? | |||
"Can the Scott's really afford to go it alone? If they leave the United Kingdom, it will have huge ramifications. The chancellor & the Bank of England have already said the Scott's will NOT have our currency, the Pound. They will have to have their own economy with their own interest rates & VAT, separate from the rest of the UK. They will have to finance & support their own NHS service as the one they use is for the UK. They will have to finance their own welfare system for the unemployed, set up their own insurance & tax contributions, because the one they use is for the UK. Set up their own vehicle database & drivers licences & road tax system, because the one they use is for the UK. As for sending the Scott's home who live in England, most of them will HAVE to be deported back unless they have a current up to date passport. I may be wrong but if I remember, Scotland is not part of the EU... the United Kingdom is. Scotland will no longer be a part of the UK & therefore no longer part of the EU. Only EU member states are allowed freedom to cross borders. All Scott's with NO passports will become illegal immigrants with no rights to cross the border into the UK. Then the Scott's will have to qualify for the new immigration rules. No savings, no job to go to, No Entry. Is all that agro & insecurity really worth it? What I've highlighted is only the tip of a huge aggravating iceberg for the Scott's. If Scotland do get the "yes", I think, in 2-3 years, Scotland's economy will be in a worse state than Spain or Greece & they will be begging the UK to come back." okay, & how the hell is poor old Scotland going to possibly survive without the sleazy, seedy, corrupt to the core Westminster?
You poor, poor Scots............
YOU KNOW WHAT TO DO!!! | |||
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"No one seems to be looking at the bigger picture. No one seems to be thinking about the LEGAL sides of things. Scotland leave the United Kingdom, they leave the EU. Only EU countries have got the right to free movement within the EU. Scotland will NOT be part of the EU. Simple as that. They can apply to join the EU, but will have to go through every criteria that all the other member states went through. Yes, UK & Scottish borders will probably be relaxed, but only if the 2 governments come to an agreement. People think I'm being stupid, but when it comes down to it, governments & lawyers have to cross every T & dot every I when it comes to the LEGAL side of things, whether anyone likes it or not. They can't leave any legal loop holes in contracts for criminals or terrorists to abuse. I'm not stupid asking how Scotland can afford their own welfare system for the dole & their own NHS. Has anyone wondered what the population of Scotland is. Who has actually thought about the economic side before they tried to ridicule me. Scotland, according to Scotland.org has only a population of 5.2 million people. Take off the jobless & the underage who won't be paying any Tax. They have 5.2 million people to tax to pay for everything they need - dole money, an NHS, they will have to have their own armed forces, police, fire, ambulance, ministry of transport, etc, etc, etc. Scotland not in the UK & not in the EU will mean they are not even part of NATO unless they ask to join. Scotland will be On Their Own. They will belong to Nothing. They will have No partners, nothing. Are there any MPs on here that would like to say what contracts have already been discussed & finalised between the 2 governments???" So any country with 5.2 million people or less is incapable of succeeding? | |||
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"They don't have the Balls to go it alone." It is no surprise with the ridiculous abuse coming from parts of England that Scotland is keen to work for it's own aims. Intolerance and abuse is a sadly all too common trait in this part of the uk and it's perpetrators should be belittled and shamed for bringing shame and ridicule on their country and compatriots. | |||
"Can the Scott's really afford to go it alone? If they leave the United Kingdom, it will have huge ramifications. The chancellor & the Bank of England have already said the Scott's will NOT have our currency, the Pound. They will have to have their own economy with their own interest rates & VAT, separate from the rest of the UK. They will have to finance & support their own NHS service as the one they use is for the UK. They will have to finance their own welfare system for the unemployed, set up their own insurance & tax contributions, because the one they use is for the UK. Set up their own vehicle database & drivers licences & road tax system, because the one they use is for the UK. As for sending the Scott's home who live in England, most of them will HAVE to be deported back unless they have a current up to date passport. I may be wrong but if I remember, Scotland is not part of the EU... the United Kingdom is. Scotland will no longer be a part of the UK & therefore no longer part of the EU. Only EU member states are allowed freedom to cross borders. All Scott's with NO passports will become illegal immigrants with no rights to cross the border into the UK. Then the Scott's will have to qualify for the new immigration rules. No savings, no job to go to, No Entry. Is all that agro & insecurity really worth it? What I've highlighted is only the tip of a huge aggravating iceberg for the Scott's. If Scotland do get the "yes", I think, in 2-3 years, Scotland's economy will be in a worse state than Spain or Greece & they will be begging the UK to come back. okay, & how the hell is poor old Scotland going to possibly survive without the sleazy, seedy, corrupt to the core Westminster?
You poor, poor Scots............
YOU KNOW WHAT TO DO!!! "Haven't until recently the sleazy corrupt core in Westminster been Scottish? | |||
"Can the Scott's really afford to go it alone? If they leave the United Kingdom, it will have huge ramifications. The chancellor & the Bank of England have already said the Scott's will NOT have our currency, the Pound. They will have to have their own economy with their own interest rates & VAT, separate from the rest of the UK. They will have to finance & support their own NHS service as the one they use is for the UK. They will have to finance their own welfare system for the unemployed, set up their own insurance & tax contributions, because the one they use is for the UK. Set up their own vehicle database & drivers licences & road tax system, because the one they use is for the UK. As for sending the Scott's home who live in England, most of them will HAVE to be deported back unless they have a current up to date passport. I may be wrong but if I remember, Scotland is not part of the EU... the United Kingdom is. Scotland will no longer be a part of the UK & therefore no longer part of the EU. Only EU member states are allowed freedom to cross borders. All Scott's with NO passports will become illegal immigrants with no rights to cross the border into the UK. Then the Scott's will have to qualify for the new immigration rules. No savings, no job to go to, No Entry. Is all that agro & insecurity really worth it? What I've highlighted is only the tip of a huge aggravating iceberg for the Scott's. If Scotland do get the "yes", I think, in 2-3 years, Scotland's economy will be in a worse state than Spain or Greece & they will be begging the UK to come back. okay, & how the hell is poor old Scotland going to possibly survive without the sleazy, seedy, corrupt to the core Westminster?
You poor, poor Scots............
YOU KNOW WHAT TO DO!!!
Haven't until recently the sleazy corrupt core in Westminster been Scottish?"Such as? | |||
"So any country with 5.2 million people or less is incapable of succeeding?" Depends on what the countries government promises the people doesn't it. Scotland has got used to using a fully funded NHS police fire & ambulance service, dole system, sickness & welfare system, not having to have their own armed forces, etc, etc, etc, etc, etc. The Scottish will still want a fully funded system. If they are jobless, they will demand DOLE money. If they get hurt, they will demand the hospitals treat them for FREE. If they are sick & not available for work, they will demand money from welfare services. With a population of only 5.2 million, take off that total all the kids that WON'T pay tax, take off that total all the jobless that WON'T pay tax, take off all the retired that WON'T be paying tax. I can't see how the country can pay for all that welfare & services & pay for all their sponging MPs in their own government & different departments. The taxable population must only be about 4, maybe 4 & a half million people. A country that can't live within its means is destined for failure & bankruptcy. Why can't anyone else see this. | |||
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"We (English) look forward to rebuilding hadrians wall and keeping you heathens on the poor cold side where we don't have to listen to all the bleating about oil. How the hell are you going to pay your welfare bill to keep u all off work??" Scotland only receives 11% off the monies pumped into the welfare system. . The other 89% goes to keeping the english in benefits and all the immigrates they keep letting in | |||
"There is no truth in the roumer that every Scot in the new independent Scotland will have to learn and primarily speak Gaelic. "Mike Russell, a man whose ambition is to die in his own arms, has already suggested that. | |||
"We (English) look forward to rebuilding hadrians wall and keeping you heathens on the poor cold side where we don't have to listen to all the bleating about oil. How the hell are you going to pay your welfare bill to keep u all off work?? Scotland only receives 11% off the monies pumped into the welfare system. . The other 89% goes to keeping the english in benefits and all the immigrates they keep letting in" True... 8.5% of the UK population (that live in Scotland) take 11% of welfare monies... Now exactly what is your point? | |||
"We (English) look forward to rebuilding hadrians wall and keeping you heathens on the poor cold side where we don't have to listen to all the bleating about oil. How the hell are you going to pay your welfare bill to keep u all off work?? Scotland only receives 11% off the monies pumped into the welfare system. . The other 89% goes to keeping the english in benefits and all the immigrates they keep letting in True... 8.5% of the UK population (that live in Scotland) take 11% of welfare monies... Now exactly what is your point? "That's more to do with Scotland's ageing population than any benefit culture. | |||
"We (English) look forward to rebuilding hadrians wall and keeping you heathens on the poor cold side where we don't have to listen to all the bleating about oil. How the hell are you going to pay your welfare bill to keep u all off work?? Scotland only receives 11% off the monies pumped into the welfare system. . The other 89% goes to keeping the english in benefits and all the immigrates they keep letting in True... 8.5% of the UK population (that live in Scotland) take 11% of welfare monies... Now exactly what is your point?
That's more to do with Scotland's ageing population than any benefit culture."It doesn't matter why someone is on benefits, they still cost money... As for the person asking who the corrupt Scots in Westminster were.... I think you will find Blair and Brown plus a good number of their cabinet...They ruled for 13 of the last 17 years... Personally I think Salmond is totally blinkered to other people's _iews and any facts that don't support his _iew. In addition I also believe that he is desperate to get his name in the history books as Scotland's first PM regardless of the long term consequences for Scotland and her people... | |||
"We (English) look forward to rebuilding hadrians wall and keeping you heathens on the poor cold side where we don't have to listen to all the bleating about oil. How the hell are you going to pay your welfare bill to keep u all off work?? Scotland only receives 11% off the monies pumped into the welfare system. . The other 89% goes to keeping the english in benefits and all the immigrates they keep letting in True... 8.5% of the UK population (that live in Scotland) take 11% of welfare monies... Now exactly what is your point?
That's more to do with Scotland's ageing population than any benefit culture.
It doesn't matter why someone is on benefits, they still cost money...
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"Discussing politics on a site like this isn't really a good idea. My block list is gonna be fucking huge! I'm a Scot! I love my country , but I also love England and English people, my kids were born in England . Why are so many people taking offence to yes voters? After all, Scots are only reclaiming what was theirs to begin with. Get your history books out and stop being so feckin nasty to each other . It's not attractive "Gotta agree | |||
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"Canny. Believe this is still running.?? "It will run right up to the vote... and maybe a little longer | |||
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"if it's YES, I am moving" Me too. Well, moving anyway but will be going a bit faster if it's a yes. | |||
" That's more to do with Scotland's ageing population than any benefit culture. It doesn't matter why someone is on benefits, they still cost money... .. Are you suggesting we euthanise everyone who reaches pension age?" Not at all, just stating a fact... As someone with a Scottish father, a large extended familyin Scotland and is very proud of my Scottish heritage I would be sad to see a split. Talking of history, it was James vi that united the two countries. I understand that some people are bitter about the treatment of the Scots by the English but if those things had not taken place most of us wouldn't exist... With things like a large space programme, we could all benifit from a United Kingdom.... | |||
"I hope it is a Yes vote. I'm all in favour of Independence from Scotland!" Isn't the point that some in Scotland want independence form Westminster? ( please note not all us Scots hate the English, differentiate between English and Westminster and you may see why this has come up ) I haven't seen that some in England want independence from Holyrood ( as a vote for the populace....yet ) But am sure it will come! Hard hat on waiting... Please use marshmallows as missiles I have a craving for something sweet this evening | |||
