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"How on earth is spoiling your paper better than not voting? It wont count so what's the point if that? " Spoilt ballots are counted. | |||
"Spoilt votes DO count.... Image how embarrassing it would be if there were more spoilt papers than actual votes!!! " | |||
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"Spoilt votes DO count.... Image how embarrassing it would be if there were more spoilt papers than actual votes!!! " It would be exactly the same embarrassment as people not going to vote surely? | |||
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"I will vote and I have always voted. People died to get us the vote. And people in plenty of other countries are denied the right. I tend to lack respect for people that can't be bothered to vote " | |||
"Its the only sensible thing I have ever heard Russell Brand say is to have a "non of the above option" " And he pinched that from the Brewsters Millions film. I will be voting, but L is due home this evening so we will go together then. | |||
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"Spoilt votes DO count.... Image how embarrassing it would be if there were more spoilt papers than actual votes!!! It would be exactly the same embarrassment as people not going to vote surely?" No because if people don't exercise their right to vote, the media will just say those people are too lazy or can't be bothered..... Imagine the media frenzy if millions did vote, spoil their paper because no politician appealed to them..... The MP's wouldn't know where to hide themselves and would be ridiculed | |||
"I will vote and I have always voted. People died to get us the vote. And people in plenty of other countries are denied the right. I tend to lack respect for people that can't be bothered to vote " | |||
"Spoilt votes DO count.... Image how embarrassing it would be if there were more spoilt papers than actual votes!!! It would be exactly the same embarrassment as people not going to vote surely?" No, not really - that would just show that people are apathetic. A spoiled paper is counted and is a clear demonstration of active dissent. | |||
"I will vote and I have always voted. People died to get us the vote. And people in plenty of other countries are denied the right. I tend to lack respect for people that can't be bothered to vote " | |||
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"Spoilt votes DO count.... Image how embarrassing it would be if there were more spoilt papers than actual votes!!! " Spoilt ballots might add to the total votes cast but are meaningless. A bit like a child saying "shallnt do it". They just mean some will win on fewer votes. If you both to vote, and you should, pick a candidate who least offends you. Or vote Green | |||
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"How on earth is spoiling your paper better than not voting? It wont count so what's the point if that? " At the point of declaration as well as votes for each party/ candidate being announced the number of spoilt ballots are announced too | |||
"I will vote and I have always voted. People died to get us the vote. And people in plenty of other countries are denied the right. I tend to lack respect for people that can't be bothered to vote " | |||
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"I always vote no matter how inconvenient it might be. I've lived in, and travelled through, countries where people would give anything to have the democratic rights we have here - and I believe if we don't exercise those rights we diminish our right to criticise the crappy things done in our name. If there isn't a candidate worthy of the seat, I'll spoil the ballot paper by writing "none of the above" all over it - I'd have done exactly that this morning (I was 1st into the station after it opened) had there not been the option of the Greens. Spoilt votes DO count.... Image how embarrassing it would be if there were more spoilt papers than actual votes!!! It would be exactly the same embarrassment as people not going to vote surely? No, not really - that would just show that people are apathetic. A spoiled paper is counted and is a clear demonstration of active dissent." here here well said that man | |||
"No, I have absolutely no idea who the candidates are anyway " 10 mins on Google and Wikipedia will tell you all you nred to know. Dont drift out of democracy xx | |||
"Spoilt votes DO count.... Image how embarrassing it would be if there were more spoilt papers than actual votes!!! A spoiled paper is counted and is a clear demonstration of active dissent." Ive worked on elections and NO POLITICIAN TAKES SPOILT BALLOTS SERIOUSLY it is a wasted vote, they laugh because you didnt vote against them so dont do it make a positive choice or dont waste everyones time. Honestly xxx | |||
"Spoilt votes DO count.... Image how embarrassing it would be if there were more spoilt papers than actual votes!!! A spoiled paper is counted and is a clear demonstration of active dissent. Ive worked on elections and NO POLITICIAN TAKES SPOILT BALLOTS SERIOUSLY it is a wasted vote, they laugh because you didnt vote against them so dont do it make a positive choice or dont waste everyones time. Honestly xxx " but if the total spoilt ballots exceeded those cast for candidates then they would all take notice. You can not get a ground swell of opinion noticed instantly it has to build up a head of steam. Once it becomes news more people will do it as many just have the apathetic opinion of oh well I won't bother | |||
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"Spoilt votes DO count.... Image how embarrassing it would be if there were more spoilt papers than actual votes!!! It would be exactly the same embarrassment as people not going to vote surely?" Spoilt ballot papers count in the turn out figures and total percentages of who voted. If you don't go it's not counted The biggest statement of no confidence is showing you don't agree. | |||
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" but if the total spoilt ballots exceeded those cast for candidates then they would all take notice. You can not get a ground swell of opinion noticed instantly it has to build up a head of steam. Once it becomes news more people will do it as many just have the apathetic opinion of oh well I won't bother" It will never happen and you have wasted your chance. When did a politico last say "oh i should do this becos of the spoilt votes"? What do spoilers want? No one knows. If you dislike them all setbup your own party...but spoiling your ballot only makes you feel good, it accomplishes nothing Boy am i getting heavy, i must need a fuck | |||
"I always vote..... if you don't you have no right to complain" here is a qoute from George carlin which I tend to agree with... just exchange the parts where he refers to Americans and put in place british instead. "Now, there's one thing you might have noticed I don't complain about: politicians. Everybody complains about politicians. Everybody says they suck. Well, where do people think these politicians come from? They don't fall out of the sky. They don't pass through a membrane from another reality. They come from American parents and American families, American homes, American schools, American churches, American businesses and American universities, and they are elected by American citizens. This is the best we can do folks. This is what we have to offer. It's what our system produces: Garbage in, garbage out. If you have selfish, ignorant citizens, you're going to get selfish, ignorant leaders. Term limits ain't going to do any good; you're just going to end up with a brand new bunch of selfish, ignorant Americans. So, maybe, maybe, maybe, it's not the politicians who suck. Maybe something else sucks around here... like, the public. Yeah, the public sucks. There's a nice campaign slogan for somebody: 'The Public Sucks. F*ck Hope.'" "I have solved this political dilemma in a very direct way: I don't vote. On Election Day, I stay home. I firmly believe that if you vote, you have no right to complain. Now, some people like to twist that around. They say, 'If you don't vote, you have no right to complain,' but where's the logic in that? If you vote, and you elect dishonest, incompetent politicians, and they get into office and screw everything up, you are responsible for what they have done. You voted them in. You caused the problem. You have no right to complain. I, on the other hand, who did not vote -- who did not even leave the house on Election Day -- am in no way responsible for that these politicians have done and have every right to complain about the mess that you created." | |||
"I always vote..... if you don't you have no right to complain here is a qoute from George carlin which I tend to agree with... just exchange the parts where he refers to Americans and put in place british instead. "Now, there's one thing you might have noticed I don't complain about: politicians. Everybody complains about politicians. Everybody says they suck. Well, where do people think these politicians come from? They don't fall out of the sky. They don't pass through a membrane from another reality. They come from American parents and American families, American homes, American schools, American churches, American businesses and American universities, and they are elected by American citizens. This is the best we can do folks. This is what we have to offer. It's what our system produces: Garbage in, garbage out. If you have selfish, ignorant citizens, you're going to get selfish, ignorant leaders. Term limits ain't going to do any good; you're just going to end up with a brand new bunch of selfish, ignorant Americans. So, maybe, maybe, maybe, it's not the politicians who suck. Maybe something else sucks around here... like, the public. Yeah, the public sucks. There's a nice campaign slogan for somebody: 'The Public Sucks. F*ck Hope.'" "I have solved this political dilemma in a very direct way: I don't vote. On Election Day, I stay home. I firmly believe that if you vote, you have no right to complain. Now, some people like to twist that around. They say, 'If you don't vote, you have no right to complain,' but where's the logic in that? If you vote, and you elect dishonest, incompetent politicians, and they get into office and screw everything up, you are responsible for what they have done. You voted them in. You caused the problem. You have no right to complain. I, on the other hand, who did not vote -- who did not even leave the house on Election Day -- am in no way responsible for that these politicians have done and have every right to complain about the mess that you created." " Nice idea but if something happens by your inaction are you not responsible, particularly if your action might have prevented a bad thing happening? Some politicians are corrupt but so are some busibessmen, priests and fabbers...not all are though and we should seek out the good and support them xxx Boy i REALLY need a fuck | |||
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"We should have the same law as in Australia - you are legally required to vote. You can't complain if you're part of the problem ie: didn't vote. " Voting is a right, not an obligation. To those who say if you don't vote, you don't have the right to complain - does that also mean that if you vote for a party that ends up doing some truly horrible things, you're partly responsible? | |||
"We should have the same law as in Australia - you are legally required to vote. You can't complain if you're part of the problem ie: didn't vote. Voting is a right, not an obligation. To those who say if you don't vote, you don't have the right to complain - does that also mean that if you vote for a party that ends up doing some truly horrible things, you're partly responsible?" Yes. | |||