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By (user no longer on site) OP over a year ago

How will you vote. In the forcoming election

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Don't know about the others but I normally scribble an X in the appropriate box

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Same as ever..

Vote as you will... But... VOTE...!!!!

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By *yrdwomanWoman over a year ago

Putting the 'cum' in Eboracum

"Don't know about the others but I normally scribble an X in the appropriate box"

You have to go in a little cubicle in a specially designated building too. Just writing an X won't cut it.

I'm voting Green.

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By *inaTitzTV/TS over a year ago

Titz Towers, North Notts

"Don't know about the others but I normally scribble an X in the appropriate box

You have to go in a little cubicle in a specially designated building too. Just writing an X won't cut it.

I'm voting Green."

I always feel that if they had a glory hole cut in it male voting would see a rise

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By *iewMan over a year ago
Forum Mod

Angus & Findhorn

Conservative

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Don't know about the others but I normally scribble an X in the appropriate box

You have to go in a little cubicle in a specially designated building too. Just writing an X won't cut it.

I'm voting Green.

I always feel that if they had a glory hole cut in it male voting would see a rise

Awww... C'mon Tina... There's already enough dicks standing for election...

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Don't know about the others but I normally scribble an X in the appropriate box

You have to go in a little cubicle in a specially designated building too. Just writing an X won't cut it.

I'm voting Green."

I will also be voting green. Without a healthy planet, any of the other policies from the other parties, have no meaning. I will do whatever I can to ensure UKIP make as fewer seats as possible.

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By *B9 QueenWoman over a year ago

Over the rainbow, under the bridge

I'm voting. That's all I'm prepared to divulge.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"How will you vote. In the forcoming election

Ukip they won't get in , but by voting for them it sends a message to the conservatives who I normally vote for

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

I shall be ruining my ballot in the most creative and _xpressive way I can without using profanities.

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By *ScotsmanMan over a year ago

ayrshire

. . eh ?? . .fuckin

, . FFRREEDDOOMM!!(freedom).

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By *r-UniqueMan over a year ago

Carmarthenshire

A quote that is going around:

"According to David Cameron aggressive tax avoidance for non Tory donors like Jimmy Carr is repugnant and morally wrong and you should be prosecuted and forced to repay all monies owed...

HOWEVER if you are tax dodging Tory supporter Gary Barlow then according to David Cameron this comes under peaceful tax avoidance and you should be given an OBE and told what an all round good egg you are. After all on Sky News yesterday David Cameron reminded ordinary working people that while they repaid the national debt and tried to keep the NHS afloat, Gary was busy organising the Queens birthday party and plugging his new song on children in need while asking YOU for more money to keep a hospice open that would never be under threat of closure if he and thousands of other multi millionaires paid a little bit more than 1% tax !! But who needs a hospice when Gary can do you a lovely BBC documentary where James Corden stares lovingly into Gary's eyes while furiously masturbating over him under the table and then turning up to sing at a fans wedding for no other reason than to make somebody happy !! with of course a full BBC sound and camera crew in tow so the whole country can see just how worthy of a knighthood you are !!

Trivia of the day ! Did you know that in 2009 and 2010 Gary donated more to the Tory party than he paid in personal tax !! No wonder Mr Cameron is such a massive tool !! SORRY i meant fan...."

And there's me hating the Tories and this didn't even cross my mind

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Unless the polling station is within 299 yards ( nb not metres )i;m not voting.

Ballots to the lot of them.

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By *r-UniqueMan over a year ago

Carmarthenshire

What I find is stupid is people saying they hate the current party in charge and then in the next election they vote for the current one

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By *anny PepperoniMan over a year ago

Matlock

"How will you vote. In the forcoming election

Ukip they won't get in , but by voting for them it sends a message to the conservatives who I normally vote for "

There are far less odious ways to register a protest vote.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"How will you vote. In the forcoming election

Ukip they won't get in , but by voting for them it sends a message to the conservatives who I normally vote for

There are far less odious ways to register a protest vote. "

Well I did think about sending dog eggs with my postal ballot, but as my address and name was on it I decided not to

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"A quote that is going around:

"According to David Cameron aggressive tax avoidance for non Tory donors like Jimmy Carr is repugnant and morally wrong and you should be prosecuted and forced to repay all monies owed...

Trivia of the day ! Did you know that in 2009 and 2010 Gary donated more to the Tory party than he paid in personal tax !! No wonder Mr Cameron is such a massive tool !! SORRY i meant fan...."

And there's me hating the Tories and this didn't even cross my mind

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"How will you vote. In the forcoming election

Ukip they won't get in , but by voting for them it sends a message to the conservatives who I normally vote for

There are far less odious ways to register a protest vote. "

x 8

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Weird, that 8 was actually meant to be the infinity symbol.

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By *adyGardenWoman over a year ago

LONDON (se)

"How will you vote. In the forcoming election

Cross in every box as they are all a bunch of lying cunts anyway

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Green Party policy for London is to make it illegal for anybody to overtake bicycles.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"How will you vote. In the forcoming election

Im not going to bother its all a waste of time.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

I'm not registered as just moved to a new area. I don't really know anything about the local councils anyway apart from that the recycling centre opens at really shit times!

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By (user no longer on site) OP over a year ago

Remember if u don't vote u can't complain about them

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By *ophieslutTV/TS over a year ago

Central

Ive not re_iewed all candidates yet, apart from this dreadful midlands female ukip scrounger. I would feel so ashamed of myself if I voted for her _iews on reducing employment rights and more, so it wont be her. A little time to investigate the others and I do gravitate towards greens.

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By *entaur_UKMan over a year ago

Cannock

"How will you vote. In the forcoming election

I'll be voting UKIP.

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By *r-UniqueMan over a year ago

Carmarthenshire

For all those slagging off UKIP. I take it you'll be voting for labour or lib dems as you can't be serious on voting for this knob again

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"How will you vote. In the forcoming election

I'll be voting UKIP.

Wasted vote then

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

With my favourite yellow crayon

Gimp

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Conservative if anybody does nt think we re better off after 13 years of new labour well

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By *hortieWoman over a year ago

Northampton

protest vote.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

I don't share my voting choice with others

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

There seems to be alot of people coming out with the "ill be voting ukip to send torys a message" line.

Do they not realise that if enough people do this, ukip will win, and we will all be up shit street.

If you wish to make a statement or send a message, far better to spoil your ballot rather than vote for someone you don't want.

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By *otlovefun42Couple over a year ago

Costa Blanca Spain...

"There seems to be alot of people coming out with the "ill be voting ukip to send torys a message" line.

Do they not realise that if enough people do this, ukip will win, and we will all be up shit street.

If you wish to make a statement or send a message, far better to spoil your ballot rather than vote for someone you don't want. "

And that is exactly what Lib/Lab/Con want you to do. A spoiled ballot paper gets seen by the counter, the returning officer, and the candidates in whichever ward or constituency it was cast, then gathers dust somewhere for a while before being burned. Occasionally one of the more artistic ones might raise a giggle or two. Hardly a political earthquake, just rather sad really.

Any one who thinks voting for UKIP in the Euro election is a wasted, or protest vote obviously hasn't been taking much notice of the opinion polls. UKIP are on course to win next week. The latest national poll (yougov) put them on 31% with Labour and the Tories trailing in the mid 20's and the Limp Dims with a miserable (and well deserved) 9%.

As far as the Euro elections are concerned UKIP are the main party. I suppose you could protest by voting for one of the minor party's like Lib/Lab/Con though.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

they are all twats full of bullshit and empty promises.no wonder ppl are so disillusioned with politics they should all be locked up

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By *octor DeleriumMan over a year ago

Wellingborough

"How will you vote. In the forcoming election

I'll be photographed dropping my voting slip into the ballot box, before being whisked off in my chauffeur driven Mercedes (at your expense) to have a lavish dinner with fawning non-elected 'plebs' (at your expense) who are only tolerated because they funnel cash to my election campaign and Party.

Then, off to my second home (at your expense) to finalise plans for my next holiday, sorry 'fact finding overseas parliamentary trip' (at your expense), whilst writing some more bollocks about how brilliant and politically astute I am, in the transcript for my memoir.

Finally, off to sleep as I dream of the never-ending political gravy train of Europe (at your expense) if things don't work out, exactly, as predicted.

Remember to vote!

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"How will you vote. In the forcoming election

Ooo how embarrassing.

I thought you said erection.

Pulls pants up and creeps out.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"UKIP are on course to win next week. The latest national poll (yougov) put them on 31% with Labour and the Tories trailing in the mid 20's and the Limp Dims with a miserable (and well deserved) 9%.

As far as the Euro elections are concerned UKIP are the main party. I suppose you could protest by voting for one of the minor party's like Lib/Lab/Con though.

Where you say they are on course to win, does that mean they would be in control of the majority of local authorities in the country? I'm surprised they have the candidates.

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By *alopeteyMan over a year ago

maghull

"Remember if u don't vote u can't complain about them "

people that don't vote still pay taxes, so yeah !! we kinda can complain about them. :D

To be honest it doesn't matter who people vote for or who is in power as its all a load of bollocks anyway and no matter who sits in number ten i can guarantee you one thing !!! that man and party don't give a fuck about the people or the country, they lie , manipulate , cheat , and laugh at all the people of this country to do one thing and one thing alone , better there career and financial standing!!!! and you can take that to bank

*rant over*

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

These elections are important but not as important as next years general, but people need to keep in the back of their mind before they put their cross, that, under Labour, the country went into huge debt. We would've been in a recession even if the rest of the world wasn't. Labour even got found out lying when they tried to say it was because of the world recession. Labours policy from their very beginnings has always been "tax the people, spend the money", then borrow more.

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By *owboy BebopMan over a year ago

Glasgow

"How will you vote. In the forcoming election

Finally, off to sleep as I dream of the never-ending political gravy train of Europe (at your expense) if things don't work out, exactly, as predicted.

Remember to vote!

I would laugh.....if it was'nt so true !!!

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"How will you vote. In the forcoming election

If you can't get an election I have heard that viagla works velly good!

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"UKIP are on course to win next week. The latest national poll (yougov) put them on 31% with Labour and the Tories trailing in the mid 20's and the Limp Dims with a miserable (and well deserved) 9%.

As far as the Euro elections are concerned UKIP are the main party. I suppose you could protest by voting for one of the minor party's like Lib/Lab/Con though.

Where you say they are on course to win, does that mean they would be in control of the majority of local authorities in the country? I'm surprised they have the candidates."

It's a European parliamentary election....nothing to do with local authorities....

If anyone is going to vote then at least find out what you are voting for/in!!!

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Green, as always. The others can all frack off.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"It's a European parliamentary election....nothing to do with local authorities....

If anyone is going to vote then at least find out what you are voting for/in!!!"

This may be my favourite comment of all time

Have a good time in the ballot box...

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By *anny PepperoniMan over a year ago

Matlock

"There seems to be alot of people coming out with the "ill be voting ukip to send torys a message" line.

Do they not realise that if enough people do this, ukip will win, and we will all be up shit street.

If you wish to make a statement or send a message, far better to spoil your ballot rather than vote for someone you don't want.

As far as the Euro elections are concerned UKIP are the main party. I suppose you could protest by voting for one of the minor party's like Lib/Lab/Con though.

It's quite true that a vote for UKIP isn't a wasted vote. You will be voting against workers rights, against women, against ethnic minorities and in Nigel Farage you will be voting for a public school investment banker with a racist history.

Why waste a vote when you can support someone like that?

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

I'm surprised at how many UKIP candidates are standing - over 2,600! Far from a wasted vote or something to be apathetic about.

For the benefit of 'Worcester Gangbangs' - that's 2,600 standing in the LOCAL elections!

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

I misread the thread title. Thought we putting a pennies worth in over erectile dysfunction! What a dick! Lol

I shall be voting for someone. However it's my privilege to keep it to myself.

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By *entaur_UKMan over a year ago

Cannock

"How will you vote. In the forcoming election

I'll be voting UKIP.

Wasted vote then

No its not a wasted vote, UKIP are on course to win the upcoming european elections.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"How will you vote. In the forcoming election

I'll be voting UKIP.

Wasted vote then

No its not a wasted vote, UKIP are on course to win the upcoming european elections.

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By *entaur_UKMan over a year ago

Cannock

"There seems to be alot of people coming out with the "ill be voting ukip to send torys a message" line.

Do they not realise that if enough people do this, ukip will win, and we will all be up shit street.

If you wish to make a statement or send a message, far better to spoil your ballot rather than vote for someone you don't want.

As far as the Euro elections are concerned UKIP are the main party. I suppose you could protest by voting for one of the minor party's like Lib/Lab/Con though.

Why waste a vote when you can support someone like that?"

That be Nigel Farage, someone who has actually had a job in the real world, as opposed to these posh eton boys and career politicians like Miliband, Clegg and Cameron who have never had a real job outside of politics!

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"That be Nigel Farage, someone who has actually had a job in the real world, as opposed to these posh eton boys and career politicians like Miliband, Clegg and Cameron who have never had a real job outside of politics! "

Didn't Farage go to a posh school too?

And spend the last 20+ years as a politician?

Oh but he had a 'real' job. Struggling to make ends meet, understanding the interests and needs of 'real' people... in erm...

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By *icketysplitsWoman over a year ago

Way over Yonder, that's where I'm bound

I'm loving the PPBs.

I'll be voting early in the morning. Get out there and vote. If you have local elections as well the European elections you are choosing the people that decide on your bins and roads and council tax. So vote.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Choose the ones that will fix the bloody potholes - we'll all be grateful..

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Ukip ! As I want to be out of the E U ! I'd like to be in other things tho

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

UKIP

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By *otlovefun42Couple over a year ago

Costa Blanca Spain...

"UKIP are on course to win next week. The latest national poll (yougov) put them on 31% with Labour and the Tories trailing in the mid 20's and the Limp Dims with a miserable (and well deserved) 9%.

As far as the Euro elections are concerned UKIP are the main party. I suppose you could protest by voting for one of the minor party's like Lib/Lab/Con though.

Where you say they are on course to win, does that mean they would be in control of the majority of local authorities in the country? I'm surprised they have the candidates."

Which bit of "As far as the Euro elections are concerned" do you not understand?

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By *otlovefun42Couple over a year ago

Costa Blanca Spain...

"There seems to be alot of people coming out with the "ill be voting ukip to send torys a message" line.

Do they not realise that if enough people do this, ukip will win, and we will all be up shit street.

If you wish to make a statement or send a message, far better to spoil your ballot rather than vote for someone you don't want.

As far as the Euro elections are concerned UKIP are the main party. I suppose you could protest by voting for one of the minor party's like Lib/Lab/Con though.

Why waste a vote when you can support someone like that?"

You forgot "Nigel Farage ate my Hamster"

Lets face it the major parties and their tame friends in the media have flogged the racist card to death, had a pop at Nigels Mrs for doing nothing more than half (if not more) of the Westminster spouses do, got their knickers in a twist about UKIP attendance in Brussels in the same week that Westminster decided to take a couple of weeks extra holiday because they've sod all else to do, trawled the internet to find someone who wore a purple tie that didn't like gay marriage 25 years ago, and while the above comment about Hamsters is tongue in cheek, it wouldn't surprise me if something similar turns up next week.

Bottom line is, Lib/Lab/Con are shitting bricks and desperation has really set in.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"UKIP are on course to win next week. The latest national poll (yougov) put them on 31% with Labour and the Tories trailing in the mid 20's and the Limp Dims with a miserable (and well deserved) 9%.

As far as the Euro elections are concerned UKIP are the main party. I suppose you could protest by voting for one of the minor party's like Lib/Lab/Con though.

Where you say they are on course to win, does that mean they would be in control of the majority of local authorities in the country? I'm surprised they have the candidates.

Which bit of "As far as the Euro elections are concerned" do you not understand?"

The bit where you wrote "As far as the Euro elections" in the final paragraph, not the one preceding it.

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By *entaur_UKMan over a year ago

Cannock

Didn't Farage go to a posh school too?

And spend the last 20+ years as a politician?

Oh but he had a 'real' job. Struggling to make ends meet, understanding the interests and needs of 'real' people... in erm...

Which-ever way you want to spin it, Farage still had a real job working in financial services before he became a politician, unlike Miliband, Clegg and Cameron who left university and went straight into politics (career politicians). So yes on that basis i would say Farage is more qualified and experienced to understand how the world of business works, and how ordinary folk live and get by from day to day.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

You might want to look a little more deeply and take less notice of the spin.

He's no different at all. Just another self serving politician from the same conveyor belt as so many the same.

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By *entaur_UKMan over a year ago

Cannock

"You might want to look a little more deeply and take less notice of the spin.

He's no different at all. Just another self serving politician from the same conveyor belt as so many the same."

Only one spinning things here seems to be you? I'm just telling it like it is.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"You might want to look a little more deeply and take less notice of the spin.

He's no different at all. Just another self serving politician from the same conveyor belt as so many the same.

Only one spinning things here seems to be you? I'm just telling it like it is."

I think I missed the bit where you 'told it like it is'. All I can see so far is another gullible person jumping on a bandwagon.

Certainly he's the most charismatic of the party leaders - but backed up by what?

I'm happy for him to continue as an MEP - I suspect many politicians are - he's an amusement. Beyond that I see nothing revolutionary, just another career politician, albeit one that has pulled the wool over a few eyes.

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By *entaur_UKMan over a year ago

Cannock

"You might want to look a little more deeply and take less notice of the spin.

He's no different at all. Just another self serving politician from the same conveyor belt as so many the same.

Only one spinning things here seems to be you? I'm just telling it like it is.

I think I missed the bit where you 'told it like it is'. All I can see so far is another gullible person jumping on a bandwagon.

Certainly he's the most charismatic of the party leaders - but backed up by what?

You seem to have developed a strange case of selective hearing, so i will say it again. Farage is not a career politician, he had a job outside of politics, before he joined UKIP, its common knowledge. A career politician is someone who has only ever worked in politics and Farage does not fit into that category.

I'm not jumping on any bandwagon either, i voted for UKIP in the last european elections and the last local council elections aswel.

Would anyone here like to bet against him getting a Westminster MP's seat in next years general election?

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Hardly a sensible bet given that he'll cherry pick his seat.

What you really mean by 'selective hearing' is a _iew that doesn't sit conveniently with the image you have of 'down with the people' Farage based on a fag and a pint. Quietly skipping past the posh schooling, city career and a longer political career than most his rivals.

Regardless of all that I am interested to hear how UKIP would improve matters in the UK if they were ever to gain power. I haven't a clue what they have to offer - only what they seek to reject. So why would they be a good vote next year?

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By *entaur_UKMan over a year ago

Cannock

"Hardly a sensible bet given that he'll cherry pick his seat.

I've not quietly skipped past his city career, i stated it loudly on about 3 separate posts now and is the basis of the fact he is not a career politician. Something you seem unwilling to accept for some reason?

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

What else are you if you've spent the majority of your career in politics?

Pointless argument anyway. But I am interested to know what UKIP would do to improve the country?

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By *entaur_UKMan over a year ago

Cannock

"What else are you if you've spent the majority of your career in politics?

Only so many times you can call a stone a stone but here goes again. If you've had a job in the real world before you went into politics then you are not a career politician.

Pointless argument anyway. But I am interested to know what UKIP would do to improve the country?"

We had this debate last week on another thread titled "Farage to become an MP".

I really can't be arsed to type all of that out again, but i stated many things UKIP could do for the country in that thread. You posted on the thread several times, so if you want to know please read it again.....

www.fabswingers.com/forum/lounge/268816

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Well I can be arsed to read it and the only mention I can see of any kind of policy or ideas is to limit immigration.

I don't think voting for a party to run services (locally or nationally) on the basis of a single issue is sensible.

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By *r-UniqueMan over a year ago

Carmarthenshire

"What else are you if you've spent the majority of your career in politics?

Pointless argument anyway. But I am interested to know what UKIP would do to improve the country?"

Decrease the amount of shortages I imagine. The more people who come into this country the more people are short of things. The nation is struggling as it is. So controlling immigration would be a good start. There isn't enough supplies to go around as it is. Never mind bringing more people into the country. This is not racism. It's common sense.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

All the parties will claim to limit immigration. I have no issue with that. I'm not aware of what UKIP represent, beyond that and hating Europe.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

I seriously don't know who to vote for. I don't get politics,it all seems like lies to me. The only time I voted was when the BNP were making headway in my area so voted Labour

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By *entaur_UKMan over a year ago

Cannock

"Well I can be arsed to read it and the only mention I can see of any kind of policy or ideas is to limit immigration.

I don't think voting for a party to run services (locally or nationally) on the basis of a single issue is sensible. "

Many more issues other than immigration, like leaving the EU, taking back control of our courts and law system, taking back control of our fishing and farming industries, less green taxes and more fracking so everyone gets cheaper energy bills, no more involvment in foreign wars that don't concern us, etc, you have to read the other thread as i'm not getting into all of that debate again, old ground been done to death to be honest. You only had to watch the televised debates between Clegg and Farage to see UKIP has many more ideas and policies beyond immigration.

Quite frankly it boggles the mind why people contine to vote Labour when they have a long and well proven track record of taking a wrecking ball to the countries finances, ruining the economy, an illegal war in Iraq, and yes mass uncontrolled immigration. But if you want more of the same go and vote Labour.

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By *r-UniqueMan over a year ago

Carmarthenshire

"All the parties will claim to limit immigration. I have no issue with that. I'm not aware of what UKIP represent, beyond that and hating Europe."

They represent getting us out of the EU and standing on our own two feet. Whether people think it's right or wrong. That's up to them.

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By *r-UniqueMan over a year ago

Carmarthenshire

"Well I can be arsed to read it and the only mention I can see of any kind of policy or ideas is to limit immigration.

I don't think voting for a party to run services (locally or nationally) on the basis of a single issue is sensible.

Tories are just as bad too

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By *entaur_UKMan over a year ago

Cannock

"Well I can be arsed to read it and the only mention I can see of any kind of policy or ideas is to limit immigration.

I don't think voting for a party to run services (locally or nationally) on the basis of a single issue is sensible.

Tories are just as bad too

Agreed.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Quite frankly it boggles the mind why people contine to vote Labour when they have a long and well proven track record of taking a wrecking ball to the countries finances, ruining the economy, an illegal war in Iraq, and yes mass uncontrolled immigration. But if you want more of the same go and vote Labour."

Putting aside the well trodden stereotype, I quite agree. I'm in favour of us having greater control of our own decisions, and in keeping our nose out of wars.

I don't feel excited about Labour and won't do until they do the obvious sensible thing of making Chuka the boss.

I couldn't ever vote for any party that allowed somebody like Michael Gove to have power. But I don't believe UKIP are anything more than a media campaign coinciding with a country leaning to the right after a recession (another stereotype). They lack substance and they're not credible.

The issues is less with the choices, and much more with the system that prevents genuinely exciting new options to vote for.

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By *r-UniqueMan over a year ago

Carmarthenshire

"Well I can be arsed to read it and the only mention I can see of any kind of policy or ideas is to limit immigration.

I don't think voting for a party to run services (locally or nationally) on the basis of a single issue is sensible.

Tories are just as bad too

Agreed.

What's even more confusing is everyone complains about labour, the Tories and yet it's always those two that get in and when there's a new party on the scene. People don't like them. Seems like they like suffering

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Well I can be arsed to read it and the only mention I can see of any kind of policy or ideas is to limit immigration.

I don't think voting for a party to run services (locally or nationally) on the basis of a single issue is sensible.

Tories are just as bad too

Agreed.

The current hung parliament suggests otherwise.

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By *entaur_UKMan over a year ago

Cannock

"Well I can be arsed to read it and the only mention I can see of any kind of policy or ideas is to limit immigration.

I don't think voting for a party to run services (locally or nationally) on the basis of a single issue is sensible.

Tories are just as bad too

Agreed.

The current hung parliament suggests otherwise."

Yes we must not forget the EU loving Lib dems and Clegg with his broken promises on tuition fees. I think the Lib dems current opinion poll rating of a lowly 8% is well deserved.

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By *picyspiregirlCouple over a year ago

chesterfield

We haven't decided yet but did anyone else see the Labour Party broadcast last week?

Since watching it we have lost all respect for them and cannot take them seriously.

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By *entaur_UKMan over a year ago

Cannock

"We haven't decided yet but did anyone else see the Labour Party broadcast last week?

Since watching it we have lost all respect for them and cannot take them seriously."

That Labour party broadcast was one big joke like Miliband, Balls and his other followers are.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Yes we must not forget the EU loving Lib dems and Clegg with his broken promises on tuition fees. I think the Lib dems current opinion poll rating of a lowly 8% is well deserved."

The demise of the Lib Dems is the only aspect of politics that currently interests me. A shame as they're the party I should most support, but they turned out to be scum.

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By *picyspiregirlCouple over a year ago

chesterfield

"We haven't decided yet but did anyone else see the Labour Party broadcast last week?

Since watching it we have lost all respect for them and cannot take them seriously.

That Labour party broadcast was one big joke like Miliband, Balls and his other followers are. "

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By *r-UniqueMan over a year ago

Carmarthenshire

So Labour are a joke

Lib dems turn out to he scum

Tories - Say no more. Nation is in a state

UKIP - People think they are racist.

That's what people claim on this thread. Sounds like we need more parties. I know who I am voting for though.

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By *inky-MinxWoman over a year ago

Grantham

I believe many people focus on party politics and forget what a particular election is for. So I vote 3 different ways.

The next election I can vote in is the European Parliament one. Seeing as the UK is a net contributor to the EU, leaving the EU would make the UK richer. It would also free us from the ridiculous, and often corrupt, meddlings from Brussels.

So UKIP is for me. It's not about racism or hating Europe. It is about getting the UK out of the EU.

For local elections I vote for the Independent candidate if there is one. That person is free to represent the people of their local area without having to toe the line of party politics.

In national elections there is no real choice as the parties have watered down their political ideals just so they can appeal to as many people as possible. It's all gone very wishy washy.

Having said that, history shows that the Conservatives fix the economy, Labour come and wreck it, the Cons have to fix it, and so on....

I prefer a party who generally has the interests of the nation at heart rather than one who has the interests of the unemployed at heart. So I vote Conservative

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By *inky-MinxWoman over a year ago

Grantham

And the beauty of the European elections is that they use the proportional representation method.

So a vote for UKIP really does count

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By *inky-MinxWoman over a year ago

Grantham

"I shall be ruining my ballot in the most creative and _xpressive way I can without using profanities."

I have been to quite a few vote counts and any spoiled ballot papers are just put to one side. No one looks at them or comments. They just get ignored. No message is sent to anyone.

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By *drianukMan over a year ago

Spain, Lancs

Most of my friends say they will be voting UKIP. I haven't made my mind up yet but could be tempted.

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By *r-UniqueMan over a year ago

Carmarthenshire

"I believe many people focus on party politics and forget what a particular election is for. So I vote 3 different ways.

So UKIP is for me. It's not about racism or hating Europe. It is about getting the UK out of the EU.

For local elections I vote for the Independent candidate if there is one. That person is free to represent the people of their local area without having to toe the line of party politics.

In national elections there is no real choice as the parties have watered down their political ideals just so they can appeal to as many people as possible. It's all gone very wishy washy.

Having said that, history shows that the Conservatives fix the economy, Labour come and wreck it, the Cons have to fix it, and so on....

I prefer a party who generally has the interests of the nation at heart rather than one who has the interests of the unemployed at heart. So I vote Conservative

So is it UKIP or the cons for you

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By *otlovefun42Couple over a year ago

Costa Blanca Spain...

"We haven't decided yet but did anyone else see the Labour Party broadcast last week?

Since watching it we have lost all respect for them and cannot take them seriously."

And people say that UKIP lack substance

In the middle of an election campaign for both the EU parliament and local authorities the best thing Labour can come up with was that childish drivel.

Oh and not a policy in sight.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

A vote for UKIP for its Europe interest is still an endorsement of what it represents though - which still sounds questionable by the response of Sanya-Jeet Thandi.

Seems people are broadly in agreement that all the options are uninspiring though.

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By *oo hotCouple over a year ago

North West

Labour... Borrow others people's money and spend it until it runs out.

Conservatives... Come in to fix the broken economy that labour leaves behind.

Lib Dems... Idealists that discover in the real world that ideals are just fantasies

UKIP... Simple politics for simple people

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

I think it will have to be a vote for that shower of gob shites that are putting the willies up Cameron and the 1922 Club. They have brought some well needed comedy to politics.

The more I see of those politicians that have been born and bred with one purpose in life and never experience life outside the Westminster Bubble the more I detest them.

There used to be people of passion, who would fight tooth and nail for what they believed in, not take soundings from countless focus groups on which demographic would respond best to which watered down policy.

No wonder so many people never vote. What's the point when they are all exactly the same!!

Power To The People, as long as they are the people I like

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Labour... Borrow others people's money and spend it until it runs out.

Conservatives... Come in to fix the broken economy that labour leaves behind.

Lib Dems... Idealists that discover in the real world that ideals are just fantasies

UKIP... Simple politics for simple people"

Labour - Spend other peoples money on stuff

Conservatives - Gift power to friends and funders, make some very rich and fuck up everybody else

Lib Dems - Liars

UKIP - Appeal to prejudices across the class divide. And appeal to simple people

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By *picyspiregirlCouple over a year ago

chesterfield

"Labour... Borrow others people's money and spend it until it runs out.

Conservatives... Come in to fix the broken economy that labour leaves behind.

Lib Dems... Idealists that discover in the real world that ideals are just fantasies

UKIP... Simple politics for simple people

Labour - Spend other peoples money on stuff

Conservatives - Gift power to friends and funders, make some very rich and fuck up everybody else

Lib Dems - Liars

UKIP - Appeal to prejudices across the class divide. And appeal to simple people

As I have already said, we are undecided yet on which way to vote, however, I'm unsure where all this condescending dismissal of ukip and their supporters comes from. It seems a very simple argument to simply say that ukip is simple politics for simple people, it sounds like a simple insult made by simple people, I simply don't get it.

Could someone simply explain it in a simple fashion?

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Labour... Borrow others people's money and spend it until it runs out.

Conservatives... Come in to fix the broken economy that labour leaves behind.

Lib Dems... Idealists that discover in the real world that ideals are just fantasies

UKIP... Simple politics for simple people

Labour - Spend other peoples money on stuff

Conservatives - Gift power to friends and funders, make some very rich and fuck up everybody else

Lib Dems - Liars

UKIP - Appeal to prejudices across the class divide. And appeal to simple people

Could someone simply explain it in a simple fashion?

What would they offer if they were to gain real power?

Simple enough?

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By *picyspiregirlCouple over a year ago

chesterfield

"Labour... Borrow others people's money and spend it until it runs out.

Conservatives... Come in to fix the broken economy that labour leaves behind.

Lib Dems... Idealists that discover in the real world that ideals are just fantasies

UKIP... Simple politics for simple people

Labour - Spend other peoples money on stuff

Conservatives - Gift power to friends and funders, make some very rich and fuck up everybody else

Lib Dems - Liars

UKIP - Appeal to prejudices across the class divide. And appeal to simple people

Could someone simply explain it in a simple fashion?

What would they offer if they were to gain real power?

Simple enough?"

Very very very simple. What power would they gain if they win the euro elections? They would be the biggest uk group if they win but what power would that give them?

I've seen very little euro policy detail from any other party, what are the other parties offering if they win the euro elections?

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By * Busty HotwifeCouple over a year ago

Bradford

"For all those slagging off UKIP. I take it you'll be voting for labour or lib dems as you can't be serious on voting for this knob again

LibLabCon. That's all they are, a con. You can't squeeze a penny between them. All a self styled political elite who maintain the status quo to f*+k over the 'working man'. You think 'working class' Labour are any different to the 'Toff' Tories? Their policies still keep us paying £Billions to others that we need ourselves and as for the LibDems? Give us a break. They'd have us royally fucked over by every foreign country or immigrant who wanders our way.

UKIP. Stop Mass Immigration as welcomed by Labour and Lib-Dems. Out of Europe with one of the biggest economies in the world, new trading partners and do you really believe the economies of Europe can afford to not trade with us? That'd sink their economies further. Don't believe the lies and scare stories of Cleft and Millipede. And don't vote for a party just cos your parents and grand parents. Thick twats who do that.

Already spoilt my council election vote as won't vote for any that are on offer. Now waiting my postal vote for the European elections.

UKIP-because I've never had a say on Europe, not have most of us alive now, and I want one now. Not in 2017.

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By *izzy RascallMan over a year ago

Cardiff

I dont bother voting, all as bad as each other

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"I dont bother voting, all as bad as each other"

so go and write 'none of the above' on your ballot paper.

if you dont vote, we dont deserve the right to vote.

even if you dont like anyone, you should still use your right to vote.

i had an ipsos mori bloke at the door the other day and he did a survey with me.

i was asked who i would vote for, and he said the vast majority of people asked the question said UKip.

whether that would be different in a general election, or if thats merely valid for the euro elections, who knows.

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By *izzy RascallMan over a year ago

Cardiff

"I dont bother voting, all as bad as each other

so go and write 'none of the above' on your ballot paper.

if you dont vote, we dont deserve the right to vote.

even if you dont like anyone, you should still use your right to vote.

i had an ipsos mori bloke at the door the other day and he did a survey with me.

i was asked who i would vote for, and he said the vast majority of people asked the question said UKip.

whether that would be different in a general election, or if thats merely valid for the euro elections, who knows."

Infact its not ok. Im not going through all that effort of registering to get a vote form, to find where the closest polling station is, turn up, and write 'not voting/none of the above'.

It kind of reminds me of threads here for eg, 'Whats your fav take that song'?

Im not the kind who goes in the thread and writes 'I hate take that'. I just dont go in the thread.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Green Party policy for London is to make it illegal for anybody to overtake bicycles. "

True, its mental in London now

they are an absolute pest

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By *oo hotCouple over a year ago

North West

"Labour... Borrow others people's money and spend it until it runs out.

Conservatives... Come in to fix the broken economy that labour leaves behind.

Lib Dems... Idealists that discover in the real world that ideals are just fantasies

UKIP... Simple politics for simple people

Labour - Spend other peoples money on stuff

Conservatives - Gift power to friends and funders, make some very rich and fuck up everybody else

Lib Dems - Liars

UKIP - Appeal to prejudices across the class divide. And appeal to simple people

Could someone simply explain it in a simple fashion?

What would they offer if they were to gain real power?

Simple enough?

Very very very simple. What power would they gain if they win the euro elections? They would be the biggest uk group if they win but what power would that give them?

I've seen very little euro policy detail from any other party, what are the other parties offering if they win the euro elections?"

And ironically EITHER add credibility to the EU concept by having MEP's OR become tax fraudsters by being paid and not turning up.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Not voting, their all corrupt fucking bastards looking to line their own pockets

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Very very very simple. What power would they gain if they win the euro elections? They would be the biggest uk group if they win but what power would that give them?

I've seen very little euro policy detail from any other party, what are the other parties offering if they win the euro elections?"

As I said further up in the discussion I'm not too bothered about the Euro Elections - and I suspect neither are the other parties. It's the easiest job in Europe - nobody knows what you do or why you do it, but you get nice pay.

I am referring to local elections and next years general election, for which I can't see that they offer very much, and yet people will vote for them anyway.

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By *dam_TinaCouple over a year ago

Hampshire

"Remember if u don't vote u can't complain about them "

I don't think that's legally correct

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"How will you vote. In the forcoming election

One thing for sure I won't be voting Labour, though no doubt the parasites will be out in force voting for their paymasters having had a hard time from Cameron. I was thinking of voting UKIP but will vote Conservative rather than diluting the vote and allowing that arse Milliband and his ghastly crew get their hands on the tiller again

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"You might want to look a little more deeply and take less notice of the spin.

He's no different at all. Just another self serving politician from the same conveyor belt as so many the same."

+1.

What was his "real" job... an investment banker. Since when did that become a job that gave him the knowledge & experience of the everyday person. He will still have absolutely no idea what it's like to worry where the money will come from to pay the lecy or gas bill, or ever worried about keeping his mortgage payments up to date, & he has no idea what it's like to have to borrow money from parents for petrol just so he could get to work in the 1st place. & I'll bet his house isn't a small, pokey 2 or 3 bed either.

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By *alopeteyMan over a year ago

maghull

I'm not a massive follower of politics by choice I think there all arseholes and liars, serving them selves and there bank accounts.

as a gay man, ukip scare me

I dread to think of what they would do with power

As far as I can tell a vote for ukip is a vote biggotry and hate

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"How will you vote. In the forcoming election

i will be voting tory in the next general election also.

for no other reason than those you have stated.

i personally think that, even though they have broken a few unpopular eggs, and done things the vast majority dont seem to like, they have done a bloody good job with the economy.

however, its the same all the time.

thatcher got in when labour had fcuked it all up, and sorted out the money, and now again, and will be so the next time.

thats why people always say evil nasty tories always cutting.

yes, because they are the party the electorate turn to when labour fuck it up!

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By *entaur_UKMan over a year ago

Cannock

"I'm not a massive follower of politics by choice I think there all arseholes and liars, serving them selves and there bank accounts.

as a gay man, ukip scare me

I dread to think of what they would do with power

As far as I can tell a vote for ukip is a vote biggotry and hate "

A vote for UKIP for most people is nothing to do with biggotry or hate, its a vote to send a clear message that they want a referendum on Britains membership of the EU or a vote to say they want to leave the EU. The other parties are all pro Europe. Cameron has said he will give a referendum in 2017 if he gets elected in the general election but everyone knows he is pro EU and wants to stay in. I also don't trust him to keep his promise on a referendum, i would'nt trust him as far as i could throw him.

Labour and Lib dems, pro europe, and don't want any ordinary folk to have any kind of say or vote in any kind of referendum on europe.

What kind of democracy do we live in here when the 3 main parties don't want the british public to have a referendum on europe/EU membership?

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By *r-UniqueMan over a year ago

Carmarthenshire

"How will you vote. In the forcoming election

i will be voting tory in the next general election also.

for no other reason than those you have stated.

i personally think that, even though they have broken a few unpopular eggs, and done things the vast majority dont seem to like, they have done a bloody good job with the economy.

however, its the same all the time.

thatcher got in when labour had fcuked it all up, and sorted out the money, and now again, and will be so the next time.

thats why people always say evil nasty tories always cutting.

yes, because they are the party the electorate turn to when labour fuck it up!"

Good job with the economy

. What kind of dope are you smoking

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By *oo hotCouple over a year ago

North West

"How will you vote. In the forcoming election

i will be voting tory in the next general election also.

for no other reason than those you have stated.

i personally think that, even though they have broken a few unpopular eggs, and done things the vast majority dont seem to like, they have done a bloody good job with the economy.

however, its the same all the time.

thatcher got in when labour had fcuked it all up, and sorted out the money, and now again, and will be so the next time.

thats why people always say evil nasty tories always cutting.

yes, because they are the party the electorate turn to when labour fuck it up!

Good job with the economy

. What kind of dope are you smoking

It is a fact and it has played out through the last fifty years.

Labour spend and spend and increase government interference on the pretence of socialist doctrine. Eventually the bubble bursts and the country is on its knees financially.

The conservatives apply conventional family economics by reducing spending to an affordable level and the economy improves.

Did you watch the news today? Unemployment down below 7% and GDP now at pre recession levels.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

And in another 5 years we'll be sick at the rising inequality in the country, Chuka will be the Labour leader and Labour will be back in power...

Unless Scotland jump ship..

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By *r-UniqueMan over a year ago

Carmarthenshire

"How will you vote. In the forcoming election

i will be voting tory in the next general election also.

for no other reason than those you have stated.

i personally think that, even though they have broken a few unpopular eggs, and done things the vast majority dont seem to like, they have done a bloody good job with the economy.

however, its the same all the time.

thatcher got in when labour had fcuked it all up, and sorted out the money, and now again, and will be so the next time.

thats why people always say evil nasty tories always cutting.

yes, because they are the party the electorate turn to when labour fuck it up!

Good job with the economy

. What kind of dope are you smoking

It is a fact and it has played out through the last fifty years.

Labour spend and spend and increase government interference on the pretence of socialist doctrine. Eventually the bubble bursts and the country is on its knees financially.

The conservatives apply conventional family economics by reducing spending to an affordable level and the economy improves.

Did you watch the news today? Unemployment down below 7% and GDP now at pre recession levels."

And did you know the average person is down £1600 and 1 in 60 people use food banks on a regular basis. Employment rates are easily manipulated and mis read.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

1 in 60?!

I don't believe that - where's that figure from?

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By *oo hotCouple over a year ago

North West

"And in another 5 years we'll be sick at the rising inequality in the country, Chuka will be the Labour leader and Labour will be back in power...

Unless Scotland jump ship.."

Chuka is a winner. I don't support labour but I enjoy watching him on QT. He is a future PM I think.

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By *r-UniqueMan over a year ago

Carmarthenshire

"1 in 60?!

I don't believe that - where's that figure from?"

Number is something like 1.5 million people in the uk. So just divided the population of Britain by that number. It was in several newpapers when people were complaining about their gas/electric going up.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"And in another 5 years we'll be sick at the rising inequality in the country, Chuka will be the Labour leader and Labour will be back in power...

Unless Scotland jump ship..

Chuka is a winner. I don't support labour but I enjoy watching him on QT. He is a future PM I think."

For sure.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"I shall be ruining my ballot in the most creative and _xpressive way I can without using profanities."

This is the first election where I feel seriously compelled to do the same... not sure if I'm going to expend too much creative energy doing it though.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"1 in 60?!

I don't believe that - where's that figure from?

Well the last I heard of food banks they were being criticised because the figures they used did not distinguish unique visitors from repeat visits so I find it very hard to take that figure credibly.

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By *oo hotCouple over a year ago

North West

"How will you vote. In the forcoming election

i will be voting tory in the next general election also.

for no other reason than those you have stated.

i personally think that, even though they have broken a few unpopular eggs, and done things the vast majority dont seem to like, they have done a bloody good job with the economy.

however, its the same all the time.

thatcher got in when labour had fcuked it all up, and sorted out the money, and now again, and will be so the next time.

thats why people always say evil nasty tories always cutting.

yes, because they are the party the electorate turn to when labour fuck it up!

Good job with the economy

. What kind of dope are you smoking

It is a fact and it has played out through the last fifty years.

Labour spend and spend and increase government interference on the pretence of socialist doctrine. Eventually the bubble bursts and the country is on its knees financially.

The conservatives apply conventional family economics by reducing spending to an affordable level and the economy improves.

Did you watch the news today? Unemployment down below 7% and GDP now at pre recession levels.

And did you know the average person is down £1600 and 1 in 60 people use food banks on a regular basis. Employment rates are easily manipulated and mis read. "

Remember that the only remaining tactic that labour now have is to play down the fact that the UK is storming out of recession and is way ahead of our European counterparts.

Every single prediction that Milliband and Balls made about the coalition economic plans has failed to materialise and everything that Osborne has said would happen has happened aside from the slightly below target figures in Q1 2013.

Labour can only now be negative and play down the success of the UK as a means of trying to achieve power. Being negative is rarely a way to win anything.

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By *r-UniqueMan over a year ago

Carmarthenshire

"1 in 60?!

I don't believe that - where's that figure from?

Ok. Say you halved the figure for repeated visits. It's still bad as I can't remember when the figure was that high.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"1 in 60?!

I don't believe that - where's that figure from?

Ok. Say you halved the figure for repeated visits. It's still bad as I can't remember when the figure was that high. "

That might be because there wasn't the might of the Trussell Trust and all their cronies driving the explosion of food banks across the country.

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By *hubnwife_36dd_ukCouple over a year ago

chester

I'm surprised the moderators even allowed as volatile a posting as election politics on here.

Since they have here's my 2p banger input: As one of the more senior age group on here I've seen UK politics for over 50 years and seen the changes from Labour as the party of the working class and the Conservatives as the party of little England and their version of policies for all.

Both parties had an awful lot in common in those days, as well as significant differences on things like armaments, nationalisation etc. Over those 50 years those defining lines of parties representing particular blocks of opinion have been swept away to be replaced by parties of dismally similar career politicians whose only interests in the main are securing power by whatever means possible via in nearly all cases a minority vote in terms of possible voter turn-out.

They are all too happy to allow the general public to trot out the sound-bites/half-truths and in some cases downright absolute lies that have been spun into the political arena. Keep the public tied down with in-fighting, that way it won't suddenly stop and go "Oi! It's you, you so called representatives of the people we should be punching". They honestly don't care about the majority of us. They have very slick political machines that tell them where to focus their pre-election efforts on those small, cliquey groups and floating voters that swing elections in our skewed version of democratic politics. For the rest of us they'll usually throw enough crumbs to keep us feeling better with them rather than deserting to the opposition. If the crumbs don't work they'll trot out the bogey-man stories to scare us into line.

Many previous posts on here have been little more than repeated party political bull, regurgitated urban myths and in some cases plain red-herrings.

Let's look at a couple of the many things that we (as well as our politicians) as a nation should be totally ashamed of as a result of our current "democracy":

Allowing bankers and speculators to take the UK economy for a ride that could only finish at Gamblers Anonymous. Allowing them, and the "me also" speculators who grabbed windfall bonuses from unsustainable asset inflation (mostly you who bragged about how clever you'd been to speculate your house my friend (as opposed to those in social housing who couldn't get on that particular gravy train)), For the benefit of the ignorant a housing bubble isn't something New Labour (nothing to do with socialism comrade) invented. There have been at least 3 in my lifetime and each one has ended in tears for the ordinary Joes, but not for the money men. I don't recall the opposition in the pre Cameron/coalition calling for the banking/housing charade to be stopped. They're all as guilty as hell. Fat cats, self-troffing each and every one of them. Most of them have banked their "winnings" and it's the little people who are picking up the tab and bearing the brunt of the cuts.

Food banks!!! Cut the crap about who has the right figures. This country is well up at the top of the rich list of nations yet we have food banks and they are growing. Can you imagine having to get your children's next meal from a food bank? Or doesn't it matter because it won't happen to you and the poor don't have a right to any personal dignity?

The gap between the haves and the have-nots is growing wider all the time. The Sunday Times just published its "Rich List" only last week. We have 104 BILLIONAIRES in this country (total assets over £200 BILLION (many of them non-domiciled here so they pay little tax). We won't even begin therefore to count how many multi-millionaires were just too minor to even make the list. Do you think they made their money by selling sweeties from a corner shop? Or inventing yet another vacuum cleaner? Do you think they are just being democratically altruistic when they give money to a particular party or pay for that other group of parasites, a lobbying organisation? Like hell, they wish to directly influence (over your and my heads my friend) any decisions that might impinge on their ability to profit from the money machine.

No referendum on Europe! Promised and promised and always snatched away if there was any chance that it would go against the desired political outcome. When we joined Europe the deal sold to the UK public was how it was just a deal to join a bigger trading block with equal trading opportunities for each state (the level playing field). There would be no yielding of UK sovereignty or law-making. Look where we are now: progressively we are being turned into homogenised "eurobeings" regardless of the desires/feelings/history of the peoples involved, and much of that political/legal homogenisation comes from the European political body and its committees and unelected organisations which ride roughshod over what people of particular nations actually want/believe in. We won't even go down the route of what a gravy train it is for those political animals and their hangers-on who play it for the max personal gain.

Nick Clegg let the cat out of the bag last week when he complained that UKIP were now the party of the protest vote instead of the Lib/Dems. He said "we are no longer the "none of the above" party".

That, my friends is the one thing none of your current politicians will give you: A "none of the above" option, because it would mean you had the choice (democracy I believe) to actually reject the whole sorry lot of them until they fielded candidates and policies that you would vote for.

Somebody once said "If democracy worked, they'd ban it!".

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By *entaur_UKMan over a year ago

Cannock

"I'm surprised the moderators even allowed as volatile a posting as election politics on here.

Many previous posts on here have been little more than repeated party political bull, regurgitated urban myths and in some cases plain red-herrings.

Let's look at a couple of the many things that we (as well as our politicians) as a nation should be totally ashamed of as a result of our current "democracy":

Nick Clegg let the cat out of the bag last week when he complained that UKIP were now the party of the protest vote instead of the Lib/Dems. He said "we are no longer the "none of the above" party".

Somebody once said "If democracy worked, they'd ban it!".

Agree, especially on the Europe issue. I think people are finally starting to wake up and realise we'd be better of leaving the EU, demand a referendum on it and is why UKIP are continuing to gain more support because really they are the only party that are saying they want to leave the EU. All over europe seeing the rise of anti EU political parties, who are saying a loud and clear NO to ever closer political union within Europe or a "United States of Europe" which is the ultimate goal of the eurocrats in Brussels and what they are trying to achieve. If we stay in the EU somewhere down the line they will try to force us to ditch the £ pound and have the euro as our currency (will be a complete and utter disaster for the UK if that happens). Just hope more people wake up and realise before it is too late.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Green Party policy for London is to make it illegal for anybody to overtake bicycles.

True, its mental in London now

they are an absolute pest"

Does anyone have a link to where this is stated on a Green Party manifesto?

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By *rinking-in-laCouple over a year ago

Bristol

"How will you vote. In the forcoming election

Ukip they won't get in , but by voting for them it sends a message to the conservatives who I normally vote for

There are far less odious ways to register a protest vote. "

Good use of odious.

And true.

It says something about tory voters that when they get jaded they do not go centrist. They go fucking yeeha loopy right wing racist.

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By *rinking-in-laCouple over a year ago

Bristol

"I'm surprised the moderators even allowed as volatile a posting as election politics on here.

Many previous posts on here have been little more than repeated party political bull, regurgitated urban myths and in some cases plain red-herrings.

Let's look at a couple of the many things that we (as well as our politicians) as a nation should be totally ashamed of as a result of our current "democracy":

Nick Clegg let the cat out of the bag last week when he complained that UKIP were now the party of the protest vote instead of the Lib/Dems. He said "we are no longer the "none of the above" party".

Somebody once said "If democracy worked, they'd ban it!".

The problem is that people vote for fucking idiotic fatuous ill thought through bullshit that happens to resonate with their feelings in particular week/month but sadly the morons in question have given it no further thought than whatever propaganda is on the front page of their chosen organ.

Democracy would be great if I got to vet all the voters.

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By *rinking-in-laCouple over a year ago

Bristol

"1 in 60?!

I don't believe that - where's that figure from?

Using the same metrics, 40 000 people used food banks under the last govt. Now it is over 1000 000. One million people in the worlds 6th largest economy which has only about 65 million people in it. That is disgusting. It cannot be argued that the figures are skewed as the metric is the same as the last government so it shows a clear and meteoric rise in food poverty. George Osborne appeared on Any Questions on radio 4, 2 or 3 weeks ago and said that this was ok. Mental. Totally mental.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Farage is currently facing the liklihood of lible action from Hope Not Hate unless he issues a retraction regarding comments he made about them.

Though on a similar subject, despite his support for free speech he has also complained to the police about perfectly lawful social media posts.

So free speech is ok when it suits him and his agenda...

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By *r-UniqueMan over a year ago

Carmarthenshire

"1 in 60?!

I don't believe that - where's that figure from?

I said 1 in 60. When the case was 1 in 65. Still disgusting though. People being employed with zero hour contracts doesn't help matters either and this is another thing UKIP want to get rid of.

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By *rinking-in-laCouple over a year ago

Bristol

"Farage is currently facing the liklihood of lible action from Hope Not Hate unless he issues a retraction regarding comments he made about them.

Though on a similar subject, despite his support for free speech he has also complained to the police about perfectly lawful social media posts.

So free speech is ok when it suits him and his agenda...

He is a cunt.

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By *otlovefun42Couple over a year ago

Costa Blanca Spain...

"Farage is currently facing the liklihood of lible action from Hope Not Hate unless he issues a retraction regarding comments he made about them.

Though on a similar subject, despite his support for free speech he has also complained to the police about perfectly lawful social media posts.

So free speech is ok when it suits him and his agenda...

Hope not Hate pursuing a libel action LOL

I would think UKIP's counter claim would read like War & Peace

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By *otlovefun42Couple over a year ago

Costa Blanca Spain...

"Green Party policy for London is to make it illegal for anybody to overtake bicycles.

True, its mental in London now

they are an absolute pest

Does anyone have a link to where this is stated on a Green Party manifesto? "

No but if I look hard enough I could probably still find where the German version of the "Watermelons" proposed legalising incest. And it is a European election after all.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Green Party policy for London is to make it illegal for anybody to overtake bicycles.

True, its mental in London now

they are an absolute pest

Does anyone have a link to where this is stated on a Green Party manifesto?

No but if I look hard enough I could probably still find where the German version of the "Watermelons" proposed legalising incest. And it is a European election after all."

Sorry you've lost me...

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"I'm surprised the moderators even allowed as volatile a posting as election politics on here.

Many previous posts on here have been little more than repeated party political bull, regurgitated urban myths and in some cases plain red-herrings.

Let's look at a couple of the many things that we (as well as our politicians) as a nation should be totally ashamed of as a result of our current "democracy":

Nick Clegg let the cat out of the bag last week when he complained that UKIP were now the party of the protest vote instead of the Lib/Dems. He said "we are no longer the "none of the above" party".

Somebody once said "If democracy worked, they'd ban it!".

So this boiled down to 'they're all the same, the system is flawed'.

Ever thought part of the responsibility for the system lies with voters?

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"1 in 60?!

I don't believe that - where's that figure from?

In that case can you point me to the confirmed figures? How many were unique visitors, how often did they visit, how many were in genuine food poverty?

The figures the Trussell Trust use state the same amount for visits and then later visitors. This is a 'charity' that has an interest in recruiting more and more food banks because they get paid for providing 'consultancy and training'.

The interesting part to their growth is why they have managed to gain so much support during this Government - a cynic might think it could provide an example of the third sector picking up the pieces for social welfare... a little like The Big Society. Paving the way for similar set ups - like The Free School Network, another 'charity' providing 'guidance and consultancy'.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"How will you vote. In the forcoming election

i will be voting tory in the next general election also.

for no other reason than those you have stated.

i personally think that, even though they have broken a few unpopular eggs, and done things the vast majority dont seem to like, they have done a bloody good job with the economy.

however, its the same all the time.

thatcher got in when labour had fcuked it all up, and sorted out the money, and now again, and will be so the next time.

thats why people always say evil nasty tories always cutting.

yes, because they are the party the electorate turn to when labour fuck it up!

Good job with the economy

. What kind of dope are you smoking

It is a fact and it has played out through the last fifty years.

Labour spend and spend and increase government interference on the pretence of socialist doctrine. Eventually the bubble bursts and the country is on its knees financially.

The conservatives apply conventional family economics by reducing spending to an affordable level and the economy improves.

Did you watch the news today? Unemployment down below 7% and GDP now at pre recession levels.

And did you know the average person is down £1600 and 1 in 60 people use food banks on a regular basis. Employment rates are easily manipulated and mis read. "

and these figures were brought about by the recession.

do you honestly think if the cupboard wasnt bare, the tories would cut cut cut?

i very much doubt it.

they have just NEVER been in charge of the country when the economy was good.

its always been labour brought back in by disgruntled voters sick of the tories having to clear up the mess.

and the food bank figures are tosh.

and simply for the very reason most people in this country have NO idea what poverty actually is.

they go to the food banks, and yet still have iphones in their pockets, and a packet of 20 B&H and go home to an actual house, and so on....

if people prioritised properly then the amount of people using food banks would decrease expinentially.

show me the figures and facts where im wrong.

you aint gonna find them.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"How will you vote. In the forcoming election

i will be voting tory in the next general election also.

for no other reason than those you have stated.

i personally think that, even though they have broken a few unpopular eggs, and done things the vast majority dont seem to like, they have done a bloody good job with the economy.

however, its the same all the time.

thatcher got in when labour had fcuked it all up, and sorted out the money, and now again, and will be so the next time.

thats why people always say evil nasty tories always cutting.

yes, because they are the party the electorate turn to when labour fuck it up!

Good job with the economy

. What kind of dope are you smoking

It is a fact and it has played out through the last fifty years.

Labour spend and spend and increase government interference on the pretence of socialist doctrine. Eventually the bubble bursts and the country is on its knees financially.

The conservatives apply conventional family economics by reducing spending to an affordable level and the economy improves.

Did you watch the news today? Unemployment down below 7% and GDP now at pre recession levels.

And did you know the average person is down £1600 and 1 in 60 people use food banks on a regular basis. Employment rates are easily manipulated and mis read.

and these figures were brought about by the recession.

do you honestly think if the cupboard wasnt bare, the tories would cut cut cut?

i very much doubt it.

they have just NEVER been in charge of the country when the economy was good.

its always been labour brought back in by disgruntled voters sick of the tories having to clear up the mess.

and the food bank figures are tosh.

and simply for the very reason most people in this country have NO idea what poverty actually is.

they go to the food banks, and yet still have iphones in their pockets, and a packet of 20 B&H and go home to an actual house, and so on....

if people prioritised properly then the amount of people using food banks would decrease expinentially.

show me the figures and facts where im wrong.

you aint gonna find them."

Indeed - and I'm not even a Tory

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"How will you vote. In the forcoming election

i will be voting tory in the next general election also.

for no other reason than those you have stated.

i personally think that, even though they have broken a few unpopular eggs, and done things the vast majority dont seem to like, they have done a bloody good job with the economy.

however, its the same all the time.

thatcher got in when labour had fcuked it all up, and sorted out the money, and now again, and will be so the next time.

thats why people always say evil nasty tories always cutting.

yes, because they are the party the electorate turn to when labour fuck it up!

Good job with the economy

. What kind of dope are you smoking

It is a fact and it has played out through the last fifty years.

Labour spend and spend and increase government interference on the pretence of socialist doctrine. Eventually the bubble bursts and the country is on its knees financially.

The conservatives apply conventional family economics by reducing spending to an affordable level and the economy improves.

Did you watch the news today? Unemployment down below 7% and GDP now at pre recession levels.

And did you know the average person is down £1600 and 1 in 60 people use food banks on a regular basis. Employment rates are easily manipulated and mis read.

and these figures were brought about by the recession.

do you honestly think if the cupboard wasnt bare, the tories would cut cut cut?

i very much doubt it.

they have just NEVER been in charge of the country when the economy was good.

its always been labour brought back in by disgruntled voters sick of the tories having to clear up the mess.

and the food bank figures are tosh.

and simply for the very reason most people in this country have NO idea what poverty actually is.

they go to the food banks, and yet still have iphones in their pockets, and a packet of 20 B&H and go home to an actual house, and so on....

if people prioritised properly then the amount of people using food banks would decrease expinentially.

show me the figures and facts where im wrong.

you aint gonna find them.

Indeed - and I'm not even a Tory

im not, per se.

i vote for who i feel will give me the best chance of keeping a roof over my head, food in my belly, and money in my pocket, and the facts remain.

my parents were better off under thatcher, than they ever were previously, and i am better off under this government, than at any time under labour.

yes, i voted conservative last time, purely because i didnt trust labour to sort out the economy, and i have been proven right.

if we had stuck with labour, we would ALL be in shit street, using food banks, not just some of us.

and, as i said, next time i will be voting to stick with conservative as they deserve a 2nd term purely on what they have done during this.

some peoples hatred for them is so ingrained, they could make every man, woman and child in the country a millionaire and some would STILL insist on voting labour!

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By *xpresMan over a year ago

Elland

"I'm voting. That's all I'm prepared to divulge. "

yeah same here i never divulge my political _iews all i will say is its not ultra right wing haha

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By *rinking-in-laCouple over a year ago

Bristol

"How will you vote. In the forcoming election

i will be voting tory in the next general election also.

for no other reason than those you have stated.

i personally think that, even though they have broken a few unpopular eggs, and done things the vast majority dont seem to like, they have done a bloody good job with the economy.

however, its the same all the time.

thatcher got in when labour had fcuked it all up, and sorted out the money, and now again, and will be so the next time.

thats why people always say evil nasty tories always cutting.

yes, because they are the party the electorate turn to when labour fuck it up!

Good job with the economy

. What kind of dope are you smoking

It is a fact and it has played out through the last fifty years.

Labour spend and spend and increase government interference on the pretence of socialist doctrine. Eventually the bubble bursts and the country is on its knees financially.

The conservatives apply conventional family economics by reducing spending to an affordable level and the economy improves.

Did you watch the news today? Unemployment down below 7% and GDP now at pre recession levels.

And did you know the average person is down £1600 and 1 in 60 people use food banks on a regular basis. Employment rates are easily manipulated and mis read.

and these figures were brought about by the recession.

do you honestly think if the cupboard wasnt bare, the tories would cut cut cut?

i very much doubt it.

they have just NEVER been in charge of the country when the economy was good.

its always been labour brought back in by disgruntled voters sick of the tories having to clear up the mess.

and the food bank figures are tosh.

and simply for the very reason most people in this country have NO idea what poverty actually is.

they go to the food banks, and yet still have iphones in their pockets, and a packet of 20 B&H and go home to an actual house, and so on....

if people prioritised properly then the amount of people using food banks would decrease expinentially.

show me the figures and facts where im wrong.

you aint gonna find them."

Show the facts and figures that say you are right.

You cannot make claims like that without referring to somethinf if you are going to demand references yourself?

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By *otlovefun42Couple over a year ago

Costa Blanca Spain...

Show the facts and figures that say you are right.

You cannot make claims like that without referring to somethinf if you are going to demand references yourself? "

Why not? Labour have been doing it for years.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"I'm surprised the moderators even allowed as volatile a posting as election politics on here.

Many previous posts on here have been little more than repeated party political bull, regurgitated urban myths and in some cases plain red-herrings.

Let's look at a couple of the many things that we (as well as our politicians) as a nation should be totally ashamed of as a result of our current "democracy":

Nick Clegg let the cat out of the bag last week when he complained that UKIP were now the party of the protest vote instead of the Lib/Dems. He said "we are no longer the "none of the above" party".

Somebody once said "If democracy worked, they'd ban it!".

Democracy would be great if I got to vet all the voters."

Silly question perhaps (I ask many) but how do you purport to know peoples motivations when it comes to the ballot paper? And seemingly all of the people too.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Show the facts and figures that say you are right.

You cannot make claims like that without referring to somethinf if you are going to demand references yourself? "

They can, and they did.

1 in 60 - that's based on the entire population. Once you have taken out children it would be more like 1 in 50. Take away middle to top earners and it's even lower, to the point that there must be entire towns and cities depending on foodbanks. Or the stat is bollocks.

If I'm proved wrong I'll turn my amazement to not being aware of a single person using one.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"I'm surprised the moderators even allowed as volatile a posting as election politics on here.

Many previous posts on here have been little more than repeated party political bull, regurgitated urban myths and in some cases plain red-herrings.

Let's look at a couple of the many things that we (as well as our politicians) as a nation should be totally ashamed of as a result of our current "democracy":

Nick Clegg let the cat out of the bag last week when he complained that UKIP were now the party of the protest vote instead of the Lib/Dems. He said "we are no longer the "none of the above" party".

Somebody once said "If democracy worked, they'd ban it!".

Democracy would be great if I got to vet all the voters.

Silly question perhaps (I ask many) but how do you purport to know peoples motivations when it comes to the ballot paper? And seemingly all of the people too.

and its a point i very much disagree with.

if people changed their voting pattern to suit a particular days brain fart, then why have generations of the same family been voting one way or the other, no matter how good/bad those particular parties do in office.

some areas in the north just will NOT vote tory on principal, the same the other way in the south.

is that right?

it really isnt.

i remember a story, not too long ago, the most deprived area of glasgow has been a labour run council for 50 years or so. why would you not vote for a change? afterall, its not like a different party could do any worse.

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By *entaur_UKMan over a year ago

Cannock

"How will you vote. In the forcoming election

Ukip they won't get in , but by voting for them it sends a message to the conservatives who I normally vote for

There are far less odious ways to register a protest vote.

Good use of odious.

And true.

It says something about tory voters that when they get jaded they do not go centrist. They go fucking yeeha loopy right wing racist."

The recent party political broadcast by the Labour party, now that really was fucking yeeha loopy.

If i was not told it was a Labour party political broadcast and had to guess, then i'd have guessed it was a party political broadcast by the Monster raving loony party.

Miliband seems to be sounding more like screaming Lord Sutch with each passing day.

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By *hubnwife_36dd_ukCouple over a year ago

chester

So this boiled down to 'they're all the same, the system is flawed'.

Ever thought part of the responsibility for the system lies with voters?"

From ahub: Dear Me, No shit Sherlock, got part of it in one (or should I say a one-liner which enables you to ignore the comments re your crap about food banks etc).

I already said they were all the same, they are all the same, but your conclusion that the system is flawed is incorrect: it works perfectly for them, just not for you and me. I could have written it as a one liner, with no supporting stuff, at which point it becomes nothing more than a sound bite, which things are shallow, fatuous and beloved of politicians. Instead I chose to invite others to consider the reasons I am saying what I say.

Furthermore if your only other conclusion is that the public are somehow responsible for the politicians on offer on the ballot sheet then by God, the system is flawed in allowing you to vote, considering people shed blood for that right.

Here's a one liner for you: It's not our fault, they don't offer a choice.

It's vote for one of several shades of them or do without, no alternative, zilch, niet, nada.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

So this boiled down to 'they're all the same, the system is flawed'.

Ever thought part of the responsibility for the system lies with voters?

From ahub: Dear Me, No shit Sherlock, got part of it in one (or should I say a one-liner which enables you to ignore the comments re your crap about food banks etc).

Here's a one liner for you: It's not our fault, they don't offer a choice.

It's vote for one of several shades of them or do without, no alternative, zilch, niet, nada.

And that can be summed up as: tripe.

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By *ENGUYMan over a year ago

Hull

"I'm voting. That's all I'm prepared to divulge. "

Same here. My Postal Vote was returned in the post today. That is all I'm saying!

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By *hubnwife_36dd_ukCouple over a year ago

chester

they have just NEVER been in charge of the country when the economy was good.

and the food bank figures are tosh.

and simply for the very reason most people in this country have NO idea what poverty actually is.

they go to the food banks, and yet still have iphones in their pockets, and a packet of 20 B&H and go home to an actual house, and so on....

if people prioritised properly then the amount of people using food banks would decrease expinentially.

show me the figures and facts where im wrong.

you aint gonna find them.

Indeed - and I'm not even a Tory

Reply:

Hellfire, some of the above would fail the first week of any serious history or PPE course!

They have never been in charge of the country when the economy was good? I think Tory Central Office just might want to challenge that one.

The food bank figures are tosh are they? Since you want to deal in facts then supply your accurate source of figures please. Secondly go find out what the Russell Trust actually does and go over and see them. Tell them you believe (halleluyah brothers I believe) that your "believing" is more important than their knowledge of the scene and see if you can refute with proper facts, not opinion, the information they show you.

Most people in this country have no idea what poverty actually is? Firstly tell us your definition and secondly don't be so bloody condescending. Less than 100 years ago, and in many cases less than 60 years ago very large numbers of this country's population lived in poverty in slum housing coupled with chronic ill-health and no NHS to provide medical care.

I was born into the baby-boomer group in the "land fit for heroes" after the second world war. My father served throughout the second world war, seeing action from the desert, Italy and through to Germany, even being mentioned in despatches. He worked hard all his life, hated taking any kind of benefits even if they were the result of paying in to schemes such as "penny in the pound" but because he was one of the workers he never got rich and we knew many a week when the day before payday meant nothing but a cup of tea and if you were lucky some bread and margerine as the day's food. So don't bloody tell me about poverty.

He and my mum saw to it that both my brother and myself valued education and thank God, it enabled both of us to get out of poverty. I have no wish to blame others who are in it as being the sole authors of their own misfortune. A few are (even the Beveridge report acknowledged that the minority "feckless poor" would always be with us) but many aren't. Circumstances put them there (where, but for the grace of God, go you or I).

There's a whole industry out there living off the back of the poor, from loan-sharks, through (so called "legal" lenders) like payday loans, your local friendly knock on the door money lender (all with extortionate rates of APR) right up to the Courts and Bailiffs (sorry I think they are now called something much more "customer friendly" like Collection Officers) who heap their charges on top of the misery already present in cash-strapped households.

They go to food banks etc with their IPhones and 20 B & H and go home to an actual house eh. Bugger me, how dare they live in a house in one of the richer countries in the western world! Ever noticed the local authority (in a minority these days) or the housing societies or many buy-to-let landlords (particularly of poorer housing stock) refusing to take rent from people because they're poor? Dammit they should be dirty and unwashed, armpits and arses stinking because they've got no proper washing facilities because they're living in an alleyway with their children too!

20 B & H eh? Ever noticed the tobacco companies refusing to sell their addictive death-sticks to someone 'cos they're poor?

They don't prioritise and they've got IPhones etc eh? All of them? Ever tried to be a person and particularly a parent who tries to fight the might of the system that created the desire, indeed the virtual "law" that meant you or your child are stigmatised if you don't join in this fetish for electronic consumerism?

No, I haven't got one, mine's a cheapie many years old pay-as-you-go cos Victor Meldrew is my hero, not Nokia or Samsung or Apple.

They don't prioritise? In a nation in which it's a fact that our younger generations are in many cases innumerate and semi-literate? They don't start with the skills necessary to realise just how much the system milks them with extortionate APR's or the skills to read agreements, legal documents etc to keep trouble at bay.

BTW do you even know the meaning of exponentially?

And finally to "Indeed - and I'm not even a Tory" well you should apply, you've got all the necessary Daily Mail qualifications and they'd lap you up.

BTW I didn't vote for New Labour in any of its elections.

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By *hubnwife_36dd_ukCouple over a year ago

chester

So this boiled down to 'they're all the same, the system is flawed'.

Ever thought part of the responsibility for the system lies with voters?

From ahub: Dear Me, No shit Sherlock, got part of it in one (or should I say a one-liner which enables you to ignore the comments re your crap about food banks etc).

Here's a one liner for you: It's not our fault, they don't offer a choice.

It's vote for one of several shades of them or do without, no alternative, zilch, niet, nada.

And that can be summed up as: tripe."

Ah Tripe...good stuff I'm led to believe, delicious even, with some onions.

I'm glad to see that when challenged your "thinking" degenerates from simplistic one-liners to single words.

Can we hope for further refinement and progress to single letters or even better none at all if you can't contribute useful argument, rather than childish phlegm?

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Conservative if anybody does nt think we re better off after 13 years of new labour well "

Well...you must be a Tory donor!

Hands up anyone better off with 4 years of con-dem stagflation...

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

So this boiled down to 'they're all the same, the system is flawed'.

Ever thought part of the responsibility for the system lies with voters?

From ahub: Dear Me, No shit Sherlock, got part of it in one (or should I say a one-liner which enables you to ignore the comments re your crap about food banks etc).

Here's a one liner for you: It's not our fault, they don't offer a choice.

It's vote for one of several shades of them or do without, no alternative, zilch, niet, nada.

And that can be summed up as: tripe.

Ah Tripe...good stuff I'm led to believe, delicious even, with some onions.

I'm glad to see that when challenged your "thinking" degenerates from simplistic one-liners to single words.

Can we hope for further refinement and progress to single letters or even better none at all if you can't contribute useful argument, rather than childish phlegm? "

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Who cares they are all full of shit and a bunch of tossers.

all they ever do is contadict themselves , bicker like little kids in parliment and not 1 of them answers a straight forward question when asked.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Ill vote for the winners UKIP

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"How will you vote. In the forcoming election

Cross in every box as they are all a bunch of lying cunts anyway"
when you Dont like lies vote UKIP

and forget the ones who lie

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By *r-UniqueMan over a year ago

Carmarthenshire

"Ill vote for the winners UKIP

People claim all parties are liars, useless. Previous and current ones. So why not vote for someone new and see how they get on.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Fuck 'em!!

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By *hrissie1961Woman over a year ago

dumfries and galloway

You should look at what's happened in Scotland because of protest voting! A nutter who is almost a dictator on the verge of trying to rip our country apart

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Conservative if anybody does nt think we re better off after 13 years of new labour well

Well...you must be a Tory donor!

Hands up anyone better off with 4 years of con-dem stagflation..."

me.

the problem with you lot (scousers) you still havent gotten over thatcher letting you sort your own shit out after the riots in the 80's.

she was happy for liverpool to implode and start again, and you lot still havent forgotten and moved on, which is fair enough.

but all your councils are labour run.

you cant blame central government for how your local council utilise the tools they are given

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

they have just NEVER been in charge of the country when the economy was good.

and the food bank figures are tosh.

and simply for the very reason most people in this country have NO idea what poverty actually is.

they go to the food banks, and yet still have iphones in their pockets, and a packet of 20 B&H and go home to an actual house, and so on....

if people prioritised properly then the amount of people using food banks would decrease expinentially.

show me the figures and facts where im wrong.

you aint gonna find them.

Indeed - and I'm not even a Tory

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Hellfire, some of the above would fail the first week of any serious history or PPE course!

They have never been in charge of the country when the economy was good? I think Tory Central Office just might want to challenge that one.

20 B & H eh? Ever noticed the tobacco companies refusing to sell their addictive death-sticks to someone 'cos they're poor?

No, I haven't got one, mine's a cheapie many years old pay-as-you-go cos Victor Meldrew is my hero, not Nokia or Samsung or Apple.

BTW do you even know the meaning of exponentially?

And finally to "Indeed - and I'm not even a Tory" well you should apply, you've got all the necessary Daily Mail qualifications and they'd lap you up.

BTW I didn't vote for New Labour in any of its elections."

i was taking your post seriously, until your daily mail rant, and now i just cant take you seriously.

just because someone has certain _iews they HAVE to read a certain rag?

you make me laugh.

bless

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

I thought it was sweet. A very long angry rant about not very much. Like an ejaculation of misdirected frustration.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"How will you vote. In the forcoming election

Cross in every box as they are all a bunch of lying cunts anyway when you Dont like lies vote UKIP

and forget the ones who lie "

UKIP don't lie? Are you sure?

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By *oo hotCouple over a year ago

North West

"How will you vote. In the forcoming election

Cross in every box as they are all a bunch of lying cunts anyway when you Dont like lies vote UKIP

and forget the ones who lie

UKIP don't lie? Are you sure? "

UKIP = simple politics for simple people. Tell everyone what they want to hear and be popular as a result.

Meanwhile in the real world....

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

already voted

definatly not lib lab or con, and definatly not a bunch of environmentalists.

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By *thwalescplCouple over a year ago

brecon

I'm voting for which ever party allows us to have bendy bananas, pounds and ounces OR kilos and litres, (funny how the govt allows people to be persecuted for selling in imperial measurements but lets councils put up roadsigns that still us imperial measurements innit?), and makes it compulsory for ladies to wear stockings and heels if medically able!

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

I have voted by post. None of your business who for, but I will divulge my little cross was NOT in favour of that clunge Clegg and his mates

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Conservative, but most of you already knew that anyway...

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"I'm surprised at how many UKIP candidates are standing - over 2,600! Far from a wasted vote or something to be apathetic about.

For the benefit of 'Worcester Gangbangs' - that's 2,600 standing in the LOCAL elections!"

Was quoting ukips 9% lead in the polls ... This relates to European elections ONLY. They are miles behind in polls for local elections....

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"I'm surprised at how many UKIP candidates are standing - over 2,600! Far from a wasted vote or something to be apathetic about.

For the benefit of 'Worcester Gangbangs' - that's 2,600 standing in the LOCAL elections!

Was quoting ukips 9% lead in the polls ... This relates to European elections ONLY. They are miles behind in polls for local elections...."

I had been referring to your earlier comment:

"It's a European parliamentary election....nothing to do with local authorities....

If anyone is going to vote then at least find out what you are voting for/in!!!"

A slight egg on face moment for you

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

just been looking for a UKIP manifesto, not so easy to find, just a bunch of popularist bullet points that mean little to nothing.

I have a bit of a problem with them standing as MEP's when they want nothing to do with the EU. To exit the EU they have to be UK MP's all they can do as MEP's is be disruptive, which will do no good for any of us.

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By *otlovefun42Couple over a year ago

Costa Blanca Spain...

"just been looking for a UKIP manifesto, not so easy to find, just a bunch of popularist bullet points that mean little to nothing.

It's not easy to find because there isn't one. Manifesto's are only produced for general elections. None of the other party's have a manifesto for the Euro elections.

As for UKIP being disruptive in Brussels, that is what it is all about. The whole European parliament is not much more than a talking shop, the real power is with the unelected commission. In the past MEP's have pretty much rubber stamped everything the commission says and turned a blind eye to the corruption, waste, and down right criminality (check out the Da Vinci program for an example) A large UKIP contingent along with other eurosceptic party's from around the continent will be if nothing else a huge thorn in the side of the gangsters in charge of the EU and may one day bring them to book.

Whether you are left or right, a UKIP supporter or not, this film is well worth watching.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cO4Ayo4mYZg#t=3237

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