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"Horse trials not on telly at all today?? How could they cut the largest single event on the UK!!!
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Maybe because very few people actually want to watch it? |
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By *risky_Mare OP Woman
over a year ago
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"Horse trials not on telly at all today?? How could they cut the largest single event on the UK!!!
Maybe because very few people actually want to watch it?"
Several million, and they always have shown some live!
Looked on red button but could see nothing. ......... |
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By *risky_Mare OP Woman
over a year ago
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Well, Harry Meade is my new hero - what a story!!!
And I'm sorry, that bloody Italian has ruined the course and made it ridiculously undulating and twisty like some horrid Olympic track rammed into a small space, who the heck is he anyway!!! Grrrr!
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By (user no longer on site)
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I think the course was great!! It showed who actually gets their horses fit enough to compeate properly! That course was like it used to be before health and safety got totally in the way!!
Shame Nicola Wilson retired that little mare was ace!! |
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By (user no longer on site)
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The course asked some difficult questions in difficult weather conditions,
It's a shame that so many retired or were eliminated!
Well done to ollie on a 2nd place!
And Harry for such a good come back. |
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By *risky_Mare OP Woman
over a year ago
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Back in the old days  when there was still a steeplechase course to do before the x-country the horses were no less fit, but Badminton above all other events required supreme boldness from the horses.
When this amount of horses are caught out and end up actually falling I maintain it is not a fair test. The object always used to be to get most of them home safe, but scare the more novice riders and more timid horses into taking the slow routes! |
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I was just so surprised how many were tipped off!!
And not one clear round, those horses were tired... It will be intresteing to see how people up their game! I think it will be good for the sport 
And I'd quite like to steal Billy Beware horse for Rio perhaps???? |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"I was just so surprised how many were tipped off!!
And not one clear round, those horses were tired... It will be intresteing to see how people up their game! I think it will be good for the sport
And I'd quite like to steal Billy Beware horse for Rio perhaps????"
He was a star wasn't he... I hope that we will see more of him nationally and internationally.. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Don't about 43 people actually watch it? I would say although I'm exaggerating (but only slightly) it's a minority pursuit."
Did you see the crowds there? |
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By *risky_Mare OP Woman
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"That's the point I was making.... Because the steeplechase section is no more I just don't think the horses are as fit as they used to be!! "
It's possible in some cases lower down the ranks, but not for people like Toddy. Too much short undulation right on top of fences and tight turns are too tiring - much moreso than galloping on over steeplechase fences.
That double of two logs that caught so many out - can you imagine that with a third log at the bottom? That would have been evil!! And those ridiculous corners in Huntsmans!
Yes, the horses have to be fit enough, and yes the riders have to present them right BUT given that if the combination of fence and terrain make it too hard for the HORSES to work out and produce what's required - then you get too many falls, and that's when I call it unfair.
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By *risky_Mare OP Woman
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"Don't about 43 people actually watch it? I would say although I'm exaggerating (but only slightly) it's a minority pursuit."
No I believe it's the largest single attendance for any UK sporting event still? And millions watch on TV, most horse people of all discipline, and there are millions in the UK. |
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"Don't about 43 people actually watch it? I would say although I'm exaggerating (but only slightly) it's a minority pursuit.
No I believe it's the largest single attendance for any UK sporting event still? And millions watch on TV, most horse people of all discipline, and there are millions in the UK."
10th largest in the world at 200K according to List of sporting venues with a highest attendance of 100,000 or more on Wikipedia, Le Mans tops the list at 235k and Indianapolis at 225K.
That's pretty big!!
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"That's the point I was making.... Because the steeplechase section is no more I just don't think the horses are as fit as they used to be!!
It's possible in some cases lower down the ranks, but not for people like Toddy. Too much short undulation right on top of fences and tight turns are too tiring - much moreso than galloping on over steeplechase fences.
That double of two logs that caught so many out - can you imagine that with a third log at the bottom? That would have been evil!! And those ridiculous corners in Huntsmans!
Yes, the horses have to be fit enough, and yes the riders have to present them right BUT given that if the combination of fence and terrain make it too hard for the HORSES to work out and produce what's required - then you get too many falls, and that's when I call it unfair.
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Maybe but people DID make it round... And even though there were fallers no one was seriously hurt..... I just think if you've got a really fit horse you can always keep something in reserve for the tricky bits.... Its quite telling that a lot of people that went clear have successful showjumping history |
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By *risky_Mare OP Woman
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"That's the point I was making.... Because the steeplechase section is no more I just don't think the horses are as fit as they used to be!!
It's possible in some cases lower down the ranks, but not for people like Toddy. Too much short undulation right on top of fences and tight turns are too tiring - much moreso than galloping on over steeplechase fences.
That double of two logs that caught so many out - can you imagine that with a third log at the bottom? That would have been evil!! And those ridiculous corners in Huntsmans!
Yes, the horses have to be fit enough, and yes the riders have to present them right BUT given that if the combination of fence and terrain make it too hard for the HORSES to work out and produce what's required - then you get too many falls, and that's when I call it unfair.
Maybe but people DID make it round... And even though there were fallers no one was seriously hurt..... I just think if you've got a really fit horse you can always keep something in reserve for the tricky bits.... Its quite telling that a lot of people that went clear have successful showjumping history "
Yes, but we don't want people having to showjump round the cross country course at Badminton! Anywhere but Badminton please!!!!
Anyway I think the horses were more mentally exhausted from trying to work out too many unfair questions myself, and there were some VERY experienced horses who were shaken by them. If you trick a horse into making a mistake by an unfair question you can seriously damage his confidence, and I believe we saw that several times with even world class combinations. They did everything they could and it still went wrong and that shook them - enough that in several cases they lost so much concentration/confidence they had a fall at the NEXT fence.
And without all those pins breaking there may indeed have been several serious injuries to horse and rider. That's one place where I agree 100% that health and safety is an improvement at least.
Anyway, the debate will continue - it will be interesting to read all the debriefs in the equestrian media for sure. |
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I don't think it was a question of the horses being unfit, the course did ask difficult questions of the riders and the horses, no one came in on or even under the allowed time. |
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"Don't about 43 people actually watch it? I would say although I'm exaggerating (but only slightly) it's a minority pursuit.
No I believe it's the largest single attendance for any UK sporting event still? And millions watch on TV, most horse people of all discipline, and there are millions in the UK."
I suspect that The London marathon crowds far exceeds the numbers at Badminton.
As for TV coverage, BBC have so little sport that if there were really millions watching it wouldn't just be on the red button. |
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"Don't about 43 people actually watch it? I would say although I'm exaggerating (but only slightly) it's a minority pursuit.
No I believe it's the largest single attendance for any UK sporting event still? And millions watch on TV, most horse people of all discipline, and there are millions in the UK.
I suspect that The London marathon crowds far exceeds the numbers at Badminton.
As for TV coverage, BBC have so little sport that if there were really millions watching it wouldn't just be on the red button."
It was on bbc2 today  |
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