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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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"A Twitter troll who posted abusive messages about the fatal stabbing of teacher Ann Maguire has been jailed for eight weeks. Robert Riley, 42, of Port Talbot, South Wales, told his followers he would have killed 'all the b****** teachers' at Corpus Christ School, Leeds, where the 61-year-old was fatally stabbed on April 28. Jobless Riley, a former heroin addict, sent the shocking tweets two days after the teacher's death, showing 'complete disregard' for the tragedy, his sentencing hearing was told."
They're very dim aren't they, so easy to find them from their ip address and then they say "Oh, I'm sorry, I didn't know I was doing anything wrong" when they get a knock at the door, some even dissolve into tears the poor things.
Nobody likes bullies do they but the reason I post this latest story is to ask, in this case, do people think that eight weeks in prison (of which he will only serve four by the way) enough or, what would you do with him?
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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I think 200 hours community service would have been a better punishment. What he said was disgusting but I don't think it deserved a prison term.
The prison system is struggling as it is locking up trolls is a waste of a cell. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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So he posted it only too his friends/followers? Not sure how that is trolling? I thought trolling, by definition was posting on memorial pages and the like?
Regardless it's a wholly inappropriate sentence. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Inappropriate but there is a lot of hypocrisy in what and who is actioned against."
Absolutely.
It's also amusing at how many make threats to 'keyboard warriors' oblivious to how similarly they are behaving. |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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"So he posted it only too his friends/followers? Not sure how that is trolling? I thought trolling, by definition was posting on memorial pages and the like?
Regardless it's a wholly inappropriate sentence. "
Which way though?
Too harsh, too lenient?
Some interesting and diverse observations here. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"So he posted it only too his friends/followers? Not sure how that is trolling? I thought trolling, by definition was posting on memorial pages and the like?
Regardless it's a wholly inappropriate sentence.
Which way though?
Too harsh, too lenient?
Some interesting and diverse observations here."
Way too harsh. |
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By *icketysplitsWoman
over a year ago
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I saw this story yesterday and was struck by two things:
a) how quickly action was taken
b) the severity of the sentence.
Both motivated by the particular case of a teacher being stabbed to death by a pupil.
There have been worse trolling cases with a lot less action taken.
I am not advocating people behaving in this way but I do want to see consistency and fairness in the legal system.
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By *emmefataleWoman
over a year ago
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"So he posted it only too his friends/followers? Not sure how that is trolling? I thought trolling, by definition was posting on memorial pages and the like?
Regardless it's a wholly inappropriate sentence. "
Whilst I am in agreement with the fact this guy said some abhorrent things, the meaning of a troll can vary from person to person I feel, to some its people saying things they do not wish to hear,to others its the twitter guy and everything in between. |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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There have been worse trolling cases with a lot less action taken."
Agreed. Sadly with all this social media I think the bi-product of the police being inundated Sith phone calls saying he wrote this or she shouldn't have said that when their time ought to be used dealing with more serious matters. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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At least he will have eight weeks where he can't post anything. And let's hope he can reflect on his words. But worthily out much hope of him feeling sorry for what he said. Bet he is just sorry he got caught. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"So he posted it only too his friends/followers? Not sure how that is trolling? I thought trolling, by definition was posting on memorial pages and the like?
Regardless it's a wholly inappropriate sentence. "
people don't seem to understand, once it's on the internet, it's out there. Unless he tweeted from a locked account, it doesn't matter how many followers he has, it can be retweeted and go viral. The best example of that being Sally Bercow naming somebody she believed was involved in a crime. (Innocent face) it was untrue and she had to apologise.
Doesn't matter how many followers he had, he said something abhorrent about the murdered teacher. |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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On topic, the weirdest one I heard was a girl in Wales I think it was used her father's account to troll herself, I.e, making people think he was trolling her.  |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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thetes no doubt that the things this guy tweeted was in bad taste and very distressing for the reletives and friends of the teacher and he may have offended the public in general but hes not a danger to anyone.
what irritates me is the number of burglars and car thieves that repeat offend and walk free with community service or a small fine. there does not appear to be continuity for sentencing |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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""A jobless former heroin addict". As a friend of mine is fond of saying " What would you expect from a pig but a grunt? ""
Bacon? Sausages? Chops.......
My brother is a jobless former heroin addict...he's not merely the sum of those two facts about him......dont be so quick to cast aspursions....the reason this guy may have tweeted what he did is that he is a t**t......its probably little or nithing to do with his former drug dependancy or his current employment status....just saying  |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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What he said was totally unacceptable, completely disgusting and he deserved t be punished. However I think that a prison sentence was too harsh. Community service would have been more appropriate. There doesn't seem to be any consistence these days. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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I am an advocate of free speech but with it comes responsibility.
Currently internet trolls are flavour of the month and punishing them is a big public interest story. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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It was a vile thing to have written. However I wonder what would have been the legal action had it been published as part of an article in a broadsheet, or if it had been said by a comedian on stage? |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"I am an advocate of free speech but with it comes responsibility.
Currently internet trolls are flavour of the month and punishing them is a big public interest story. "
 This, when ever there is a public tragedy my phone goes mad with distasteful jokes, I have to confess some are even funny, nothing gets done about it.
At the moment there is a campaign aimed at stopping people posting stupid comments on Twitter / Facebook and this guy won't be missed for a few weeks so make an example of him, and scare another thousand into being careful what they say. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"I am an advocate of free speech but with it comes responsibility.
Currently internet trolls are flavour of the month and punishing them is a big public interest story. "
Too right not a bad Idea taking your own advice too. |
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By *andACouple
over a year ago
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Every week I can read in the local paper about people who are fined etc for assaults, in some cases serious assaults, etc. I'd rather they were the ones going to jail to be honest.
Community Service would probably be about right for this crime but the only problem with that is it's very lax and is really just about turning up rather than putting in any genuine work. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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""A Twitter troll who posted abusive messages about the fatal stabbing of teacher Ann Maguire has been jailed for eight weeks. Robert Riley, 42, of Port Talbot, South Wales, told his followers he would have killed 'all the b****** teachers' at Corpus Christ School, Leeds, where the 61-year-old was fatally stabbed on April 28. Jobless Riley, a former heroin addict, sent the shocking tweets two days after the teacher's death, showing 'complete disregard' for the tragedy, his sentencing hearing was told.""
If this is accurate, and he posted to "his followers" I wonder just how a jobless ex heroine addict has so many followers it got to the attention of the CPS? and of course because of that a much wider audience. |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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"It was a vile thing to have written. However I wonder what would have been the legal action had it been published as part of an article in a broadsheet, or if it had been said by a comedian on stage?"
That's a good point. I wonder what Frankie Boyle would make of it. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"I am an advocate of free speech but with it comes responsibility.
Currently internet trolls are flavour of the month and punishing them is a big public interest story.
Too right not a bad Idea taking your own advice too. "
i missed you yesterday, where did you go? Didn't the traffic want to play? |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"I am an advocate of free speech but with it comes responsibility.
Currently internet trolls are flavour of the month and punishing them is a big public interest story.
Too right not a bad Idea taking your own advice too. "
Couldn't agree more. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"I am an advocate of free speech but with it comes responsibility.
Currently internet trolls are flavour of the month and punishing them is a big public interest story.
Too right not a bad Idea taking your own advice too. Couldn't agree more. "
Thanks for the advice
But I think I'll decline  |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"I am an advocate of free speech but with it comes responsibility.
Currently internet trolls are flavour of the month and punishing them is a big public interest story.
Too right not a bad Idea taking your own advice too. Couldn't agree more.
Thanks for the advice
But I think I'll decline "
I wasn't talking to you you need to read more and talk crap less. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"I am an advocate of free speech but with it comes responsibility.
Currently internet trolls are flavour of the month and punishing them is a big public interest story.
Too right not a bad Idea taking your own advice too. Couldn't agree more.
Thanks for the advice
But I think I'll decline
I wasn't talking to you you need to read more and talk crap less. "
ill still decline |
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By *ugby 123Couple
over a year ago
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Ok if someone annoys you or you have issues with someone on the forum please just ignore their posts
What's the quote button for then?"
Not mentioning the quote button myself I am not sure if you are actually asking what it is for or trying to get at something but not being very clear? |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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Ok if someone annoys you or you have issues with someone on the forum please just ignore their posts
What's the quote button for then?
Not mentioning the quote button myself I am not sure if you are actually asking what it is for or trying to get at something but not being very clear?"
Well i assumed the quote button was there to quote someone. If it was within the forum rules then fine if it broke them people get the naughty step. |
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By *icketysplitsWoman
over a year ago
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Ok if someone annoys you or you have issues with someone on the forum please just ignore their posts
What's the quote button for then?
Not mentioning the quote button myself I am not sure if you are actually asking what it is for or trying to get at something but not being very clear?
Well i assumed the quote button was there to quote someone. If it was within the forum rules then fine if it broke them people get the naughty step. "
But you don't have to quote or comment on anything that annoys you, unless you wish to. It is possible to ignore posts and even whole threads.
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By *ugby 123Couple
over a year ago
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Well i assumed the quote button was there to quote someone. If it was within the forum rules then fine if it broke them people get the naughty step. "
None of what you have said has anything to do with my post.
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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Back to the OP question.
What he said was awful & I think a better punishment would have been for him to meet the family of the murdered teacher. I bet he wouldn't be able to look them in the eye ! He may think twice then before he did something similar again.
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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Am sadly ignorant of what he said, but am really interested in what he was charged with, what criminal offence? Being verbally nasty to someone surely isn't a criminal offence. Do please tell  |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Back to the OP question.
What he said was awful & I think a better punishment would have been for him to meet the family of the murdered teacher. I bet he wouldn't be able to look them in the eye ! He may think twice then before he did something similar again.
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not so sure that would have helped the family in this case |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Back to the OP question.
What he said was awful & I think a better punishment would have been for him to meet the family of the murdered teacher. I bet he wouldn't be able to look them in the eye ! He may think twice then before he did something similar again.
not so sure that would have helped the family in this case"
No I know. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"So he posted it only too his friends/followers? Not sure how that is trolling? I thought trolling, by definition was posting on memorial pages and the like?
Regardless it's a wholly inappropriate sentence.
Which way though?
Too harsh, too lenient?
Some interesting and diverse observations here."
The application of the law in this country is a complete joke anyway. Locking this idiot up just makes British Justice look even more stupid than it is understood to be by the public. There are more appropriate punishments for an offence of this nature, without incurring yet more cost to the taxpayer.
Sadly, the judiciary just don't seem to get it...yet again.
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Am sadly ignorant of what he said, but am really interested in what he was charged with, what criminal offence? Being verbally nasty to someone surely isn't a criminal offence. Do please tell "
Twitter troll Robert Riley wrote that he would have killed “all the bastard teachers” at Corpus Christi School in Leeds … also posted a series of racist tweets in which he called the Nazi death camp Auschwitz a "health spa", and suggested that Muslim babies should be drowned.
Riley pled guilty at Swansea magistrates to one charge of sending a grossly offensive message via a public communications network.
Chairwoman of the bench Georgina Scannell said : "The offensive messages outraged the public. You had complete disregard for the tragic death of AnnMaguire. Besides this, countless other vile messages were made by you. The bench finds these were racially and religious aggravated. The offences are so serious that only a period of immediate custody can be justified."
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/crime/ann-maguire-stabbing-twitter-troll-robert-riley-jailed-for-posting-offensive-tweets-9339314.html
So in the light of those facts, who thinks 8 weeks was a proportionate sentence? |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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""A jobless former heroin addict". As a friend of mine is fond of saying " What would you expect from a pig but a grunt? ""
I personally find this statement nearly as appalling as the statement made by the person in question that saw him wrongfully jailed. |
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By *iewMan
over a year ago
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""A jobless former heroin addict". As a friend of mine is fond of saying " What would you expect from a pig but a grunt? "
I personally find this statement nearly as appalling as the statement made by the person in question that saw him wrongfully jailed. "
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Am sadly ignorant of what he said, but am really interested in what he was charged with, what criminal offence? Being verbally nasty to someone surely isn't a criminal offence. Do please tell
Twitter troll Robert Riley wrote that he would have killed “all the bastard teachers” at Corpus Christi School in Leeds … also posted a series of racist tweets in which he called the Nazi death camp Auschwitz a "health spa", and suggested that Muslim babies should be drowned.
Riley pled guilty at Swansea magistrates to one charge of sending a grossly offensive message via a public communications network.
Chairwoman of the bench Georgina Scannell said : "The offensive messages outraged the public. You had complete disregard for the tragic death of AnnMaguire. Besides this, countless other vile messages were made by you. The bench finds these were racially and religious aggravated. The offences are so serious that only a period of immediate custody can be justified."
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/crime/ann-maguire-stabbing-twitter-troll-robert-riley-jailed-for-posting-offensive-tweets-9339314.html
So in the light of those facts, who thinks 8 weeks was a proportionate sentence?"
Ok, that answers my question as to what the crime is. So it's nothing to do with the specific tweet about teachers I expect. More likely the racially abusive ones that preceeded/followed.
I thought it was odd that very poor taste resulted in prison. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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""A jobless former heroin addict". As a friend of mine is fond of saying " What would you expect from a pig but a grunt? "
I personally find this statement nearly as appalling as the statement made by the person in question that saw him wrongfully jailed. "
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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I think the sentence will cause more problems that in solves, will everyone who posts offensive posts now be jailed ? if so the overcrowding of the prison system will be worsened, leading to other more dangerous people walking free or new prisons bring built at taxpayers expense to lock up this dangerous cyber trolls and them government funds used to keep them locked up therefore Increasing the spending deficit. it's set a ridiculous precedent. Also will every extremist nut who posts a offensive post now be jailed ? I doubt it. |
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By *inaTitzTV/TS
over a year ago
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Reading this thread, I feel as though I've arrived at a party and got there just in time to help with the cleaning up, making a note of what's unaccounted for (normally the microwave), putting a used condom in someone's cup and digging out the Yellow Pages so my friend can call a French Polisher. |
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By *icketysplitsWoman
over a year ago
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"Reading this thread, I feel as though I've arrived at a party and got there just in time to help with the cleaning up, making a note of what's unaccounted for (normally the microwave), putting a used condom in someone's cup and digging out the Yellow Pages so my friend can call a French Polisher. "
I had a Yellow Pages posted through my door recently - it's tiny now.
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By *inaTitzTV/TS
over a year ago
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I had a Yellow Pages posted through my door recently - it's tiny now.
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They aren't what they used to be. When I was a kid I used ours to get my dad's books on aeroplanes off the high fitted shelf in the living room. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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""A jobless former heroin addict". As a friend of mine is fond of saying " What would you expect from a pig but a grunt? "
I personally find this statement nearly as appalling as the statement made by the person in question that saw him wrongfully jailed. "
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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Just a thought, will a jail sentence actually stop the guy trolling? Don't they have access to PC's in jail. The irony is the government could now be providing the means for him to carry on Trolling and also feed,accommodate and pay for his broadband access at probably a higher connection speed than he has at home lol. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"No, they don't have access to recreational internet in prison."
I believe they do. Depending on what they are in for.The burglar who burgled my house and stole my car got jailed. He keeps in touch with his cronies via facebook.
As for the internet troll. Very much deserved. I live by the rule if you wouldnt say it to someones face then dont say it online. It's a cowardly thing to spout vitriol from behind a keyboard.... |
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"I saw this story yesterday and was struck by two things:
a) how quickly action was taken
b) the severity of the sentence.
Both motivated by the particular case of a teacher being stabbed to death by a pupil.
There have been worse trolling cases with a lot less action taken.
I am not advocating people behaving in this way but I do want to see consistency and fairness in the legal system.
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This!
I recall a case where a man killed his wife and two year old daughter and didn't serve any jail time as the judge said he suffered enough.
Yet a distasteful, inappropriate comment earns a custodial sentence.
Waaaaay over the top on the face of it. |
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