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"Iv never voted in my life an dawt I ever will but why is spoiling your vote any better surely not voting at all is the same thing ?? Or am I very wrong I dawt I could fill a postage stamp with what I no about politics im happy to say" Well I can try and answer from my perspective, I've never not voted. I would never tell anyone they should vote, it's a choice but for me it was instilled in me by my gran that it was my duty to vote. People fought for me to have this right etc (but I appreciate they were also fighting for my right not to in a sense) If come election time I feel I'm being sold lies in the form of non-binding pledges and promises, that no manifesto is offering anything realistic or that I believe wholeheartedly that they will U-turn on, then I will spoil my ballot creatively. For me that's different from the (perceived) apathy of not bothering. | |||
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"That is between me and my vote paper. " Aren't you forgetting one vital necessity that you need to vote | |||
"Heard a comment today. Wanted people's views on it. People who vote UKIP are voting for racists or are racists themselves. " Just had that debate on the other thread, titled.... "Farage to become an mp" | |||
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"That is between me and my vote paper. Aren't you forgetting one vital necessity that you need to vote " Yes, I will be voting. | |||
"Heard a comment today. Wanted people's views on it. People who vote UKIP are voting for racists or are racists themselves. Just had that debate on the other thread, titled.... "Farage to become an mp"" So who you voting for or you keeping it to yourself? | |||
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"I will be voting after all women where killed so I could use my vote,as to how I vote that's between me and my conscience" That's very well put and when you do vote. All you have to do is choose the right one or the crazy one | |||
"I'm gonna tick all of the above and spoil my voting paper...well it still counts, don't understand people who moan but never vote Please, if you don't want to vote because you don't like the options, spoil your ballot instead of not voting. It is counted and is a far better option. Imagine the embarrassment of British politics if every disgruntled voter spoiled their vote, I'm sure it would run into the millions and be a massive "Fuck you" to the current lot of arsehats we have running the show now. " There is no one who I would vote for at the moment, but not voting at all shows them that you are a walkover. Voting is your only say but when you don't agree with any of the options you need to say so. | |||
"Heard a comment today. Wanted people's views on it. People who vote UKIP are voting for racists or are racists themselves. Just had that debate on the other thread, titled.... "Farage to become an mp" So who you voting for or you keeping it to yourself? " I answered yesterday on this thread, 9th post down from the top. | |||
"Heard a comment today. Wanted people's views on it. People who vote UKIP are voting for racists or are racists themselves. Just had that debate on the other thread, titled.... "Farage to become an mp" So who you voting for or you keeping it to yourself? I answered yesterday on this thread, 9th post down from the top. " Saw that post, but at the time I couldn't tell if It was a piss take or not. | |||
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"Heard a comment today. Wanted people's views on it. People who vote UKIP are voting for racists or are racists themselves. Just had that debate on the other thread, titled.... "Farage to become an mp" So who you voting for or you keeping it to yourself? I answered yesterday on this thread, 9th post down from the top. Saw that post, but at the time I couldn't tell if It was a piss take or not." Lol, no i'm a genuine UKIP voter. | |||
"Heard a comment today. Wanted people's views on it. People who vote UKIP are voting for racists or are racists themselves. Just had that debate on the other thread, titled.... "Farage to become an mp" So who you voting for or you keeping it to yourself? I answered yesterday on this thread, 9th post down from the top. Saw that post, but at the time I couldn't tell if It was a piss take or not. Lol, no i'm a genuine UKIP voter. " I would say 65 million to go for you, but surely several million voters can't vote because they can't read the forms as it's in English, lol. | |||
"Heard a comment today. Wanted people's views on it. People who vote UKIP are voting for racists or are racists themselves. Just had that debate on the other thread, titled.... "Farage to become an mp" So who you voting for or you keeping it to yourself? I answered yesterday on this thread, 9th post down from the top. Saw that post, but at the time I couldn't tell if It was a piss take or not. Lol, no i'm a genuine UKIP voter. I would say 65 million to go for you, but surely several million voters can't vote because they can't read the forms as it's in English, lol. " Hahaha.....fuckin'ell, how long did it take you think that one up?! We laughed at that when we were kids at school lol get with the times, britain is multicultural whether you like it or not....the rest of the world is just getting its copeuppance for britain raping, pillaging, robbing and taking over other countries in the past | |||
"Heard a comment today. Wanted people's views on it. People who vote UKIP are voting for racists or are racists themselves. Just had that debate on the other thread, titled.... "Farage to become an mp" So who you voting for or you keeping it to yourself? I answered yesterday on this thread, 9th post down from the top. Saw that post, but at the time I couldn't tell if It was a piss take or not. Lol, no i'm a genuine UKIP voter. I would say 65 million to go for you, but surely several million voters can't vote because they can't read the forms as it's in English, lol. Hahaha.....fuckin'ell, how long did it take you think that one up?! We laughed at that when we were kids at school lol get with the times, britain is multicultural whether you like it or not....the rest of the world is just getting its copeuppance for britain raping, pillaging, robbing and taking over other countries in the past" Britain being multicultural isn't the issue. Look at Australia, America for example. When it comes to immigrants. They have it spot on. Would anyone call those nations racist? Yet when UKIP try and point it out they are classed as racist and people who vote for them are classed as one too by some people | |||
"Heard a comment today. Wanted people's views on it. People who vote UKIP are voting for racists or are racists themselves. Just had that debate on the other thread, titled.... "Farage to become an mp" So who you voting for or you keeping it to yourself? I answered yesterday on this thread, 9th post down from the top. Saw that post, but at the time I couldn't tell if It was a piss take or not. Lol, no i'm a genuine UKIP voter. I would say 65 million to go for you, but surely several million voters can't vote because they can't read the forms as it's in English, lol. Hahaha.....fuckin'ell, how long did it take you think that one up?! We laughed at that when we were kids at school lol get with the times, britain is multicultural whether you like it or not....the rest of the world is just getting its copeuppance for britain raping, pillaging, robbing and taking over other countries in the past Britain being multicultural isn't the issue. Look at Australia, America for example. When it comes to immigrants. They have it spot on. Would anyone call those nations racist? Yet when UKIP try and point it out they are classed as racist and people who vote for them are classed as one too by some people " Hang on, since when were originally "white" folk in oz and america? Too right they should be classed as racist because they make an issue of it! Each day you hear "the immigrants are takin our jobs"....i dont see any immigrants in my office, i dont see any collecting my bins, and the corner shop down down the road is owned by a white family?! So what jobs exactly are these people on about?! Ah yes, the ones where you need a bit of brain power and have to apply yourself....hang on, my doctor is british, so was my dentist actually, so go on, purely speaking on the job front, how are the foreigners taking all "our" jobs? | |||
"Heard a comment today. Wanted people's views on it. People who vote UKIP are voting for racists or are racists themselves. Just had that debate on the other thread, titled.... "Farage to become an mp" So who you voting for or you keeping it to yourself? I answered yesterday on this thread, 9th post down from the top. Saw that post, but at the time I couldn't tell if It was a piss take or not. Lol, no i'm a genuine UKIP voter. I would say 65 million to go for you, but surely several million voters can't vote because they can't read the forms as it's in English, lol. Hahaha.....fuckin'ell, how long did it take you think that one up?! We laughed at that when we were kids at school lol get with the times, britain is multicultural whether you like it or not....the rest of the world is just getting its copeuppance for britain raping, pillaging, robbing and taking over other countries in the past Britain being multicultural isn't the issue. Look at Australia, America for example. When it comes to immigrants. They have it spot on. Would anyone call those nations racist? Yet when UKIP try and point it out they are classed as racist and people who vote for them are classed as one too by some people Hang on, since when were originally "white" folk in oz and america? Too right they should be classed as racist because they make an issue of it! Each day you hear "the immigrants are takin our jobs"....i dont see any immigrants in my office, i dont see any collecting my bins, and the corner shop down down the road is owned by a white family?! So what jobs exactly are these people on about?! Ah yes, the ones where you need a bit of brain power and have to apply yourself....hang on, my doctor is british, so was my dentist actually, so go on, purely speaking on the job front, how are the foreigners taking all "our" jobs?" I was just stating that they had it right in terms of getting into the country. Like you need a bit of income, a trade and a clean record to live there. In Britain. They're isn't a test and we are also a small nation and struggling with housing as it is. Never mind of they are working or not. At the end of the day we have to say no at some point. Space is an issue in this country. | |||
"I will be voting after all women where killed so I could use my vote,as to how I vote that's between me and my conscience That's very well put and when you do vote. All you have to do is choose the right one or the crazy one " and who are you saying aren't crazy? and who's right | |||
"Heard a comment today. Wanted people's views on it. People who vote UKIP are voting for racists or are racists themselves. Just had that debate on the other thread, titled.... "Farage to become an mp" So who you voting for or you keeping it to yourself? I answered yesterday on this thread, 9th post down from the top. Saw that post, but at the time I couldn't tell if It was a piss take or not. Lol, no i'm a genuine UKIP voter. I would say 65 million to go for you, but surely several million voters can't vote because they can't read the forms as it's in English, lol. Hahaha.....fuckin'ell, how long did it take you think that one up?! We laughed at that when we were kids at school lol get with the times, britain is multicultural whether you like it or not....the rest of the world is just getting its copeuppance for britain raping, pillaging, robbing and taking over other countries in the past Britain being multicultural isn't the issue. Look at Australia, America for example. When it comes to immigrants. They have it spot on. Would anyone call those nations racist? Yet when UKIP try and point it out they are classed as racist and people who vote for them are classed as one too by some people Hang on, since when were originally "white" folk in oz and america? Too right they should be classed as racist because they make an issue of it! Each day you hear "the immigrants are takin our jobs"....i dont see any immigrants in my office, i dont see any collecting my bins, and the corner shop down down the road is owned by a white family?! So what jobs exactly are these people on about?! Ah yes, the ones where you need a bit of brain power and have to apply yourself....hang on, my doctor is british, so was my dentist actually, so go on, purely speaking on the job front, how are the foreigners taking all "our" jobs? I was just stating that they had it right in terms of getting into the country. Like you need a bit of income, a trade and a clean record to live there. In Britain. They're isn't a test and we are also a small nation and struggling with housing as it is. Never mind of they are working or not. At the end of the day we have to say no at some point. Space is an issue in this country. " Well on the space issue, why does closing borders or sending people back seem to be the only solution mentioned? Surely land reclamation like the dutch do could create space aswel as jobs....ok it might not be feasible but people are too quick to jump on the close the doors/kick them out band wagon....ukip, i wouldnt want a government that are soo narrow minded that they cant even think outside the box, i mean these guys are meant to be clever people, the creme de la creme of the british education system....however i seem to wonder if they think they are living in ancient times based on some of their ideas | |||
"Heard a comment today. Wanted people's views on it. People who vote UKIP are voting for racists or are racists themselves. Just had that debate on the other thread, titled.... "Farage to become an mp" So who you voting for or you keeping it to yourself? I answered yesterday on this thread, 9th post down from the top. Saw that post, but at the time I couldn't tell if It was a piss take or not. Lol, no i'm a genuine UKIP voter. I would say 65 million to go for you, but surely several million voters can't vote because they can't read the forms as it's in English, lol. Hahaha.....fuckin'ell, how long did it take you think that one up?! We laughed at that when we were kids at school lol get with the times, britain is multicultural whether you like it or not....the rest of the world is just getting its copeuppance for britain raping, pillaging, robbing and taking over other countries in the past Britain being multicultural isn't the issue. Look at Australia, America for example. When it comes to immigrants. They have it spot on. Would anyone call those nations racist? Yet when UKIP try and point it out they are classed as racist and people who vote for them are classed as one too by some people Hang on, since when were originally "white" folk in oz and america? Too right they should be classed as racist because they make an issue of it! Each day you hear "the immigrants are takin our jobs"....i dont see any immigrants in my office, i dont see any collecting my bins, and the corner shop down down the road is owned by a white family?! So what jobs exactly are these people on about?! Ah yes, the ones where you need a bit of brain power and have to apply yourself....hang on, my doctor is british, so was my dentist actually, so go on, purely speaking on the job front, how are the foreigners taking all "our" jobs? I was just stating that they had it right in terms of getting into the country. Like you need a bit of income, a trade and a clean record to live there. In Britain. They're isn't a test and we are also a small nation and struggling with housing as it is. Never mind of they are working or not. At the end of the day we have to say no at some point. Space is an issue in this country. Well on the space issue, why does closing borders or sending people back seem to be the only solution mentioned? Surely land reclamation like the dutch do could create space aswel as jobs....ok it might not be feasible but people are too quick to jump on the close the doors/kick them out band wagon....ukip, i wouldnt want a government that are soo narrow minded that they cant even think outside the box, i mean these guys are meant to be clever people, the creme de la creme of the british education system....however i seem to wonder if they think they are living in ancient times based on some of their ideas" There's a massive difference between closing the doors and kicking people out. Britain needs to sort out the low unemployment in this country and how can they do that by inviting more people? Best thing to do is "close" the door for a while until we are in a better state and then let more in a bit at a time. Have some sort of limit that are let into the country. Otherwise the country will be in a bigger state that it already is. The amount of poor people in this country is on the up. People are choosing between heating and food. 1 in 60 people are using food banks. The average person is £1600 a year worse off than they usually are under the David Cameron's leadership. So it's time for a new approach. I know we are all entitled to an opinion and my one states. We complain when labour is in charge. The Tories have run a mock. So why not give someone else a chance and see what happens. | |||
"I will be voting after all women where killed so I could use my vote,as to how I vote that's between me and my conscience That's very well put and when you do vote. All you have to do is choose the right one or the crazy one and who are you saying aren't crazy? and who's right" The right one is whatever you believe is right unless the one you vote for didn't impress you last time around. | |||
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"To all those who say their not voting. Just think of all those who laid down their lives for you... many men and women gave their lives. It's very disrespectful to them all that you can not be bothered to use the rights that were so hard won for you. If you don't agree with any of the candidates in your area the least you can do is spoil you ballot papers. All spoilt ballots are counted and declared by the returning officer. That way you make your own statement as to the state of the electoral process in this country. use that right for all those who lost theirs ......." I've voted in every ballot I've ever been allowed to since I became eligible to vote. Including police commissioner as I personally don't think police commissioners should be political party affiliated, but I digress. I think (just my personal take on things) the fight was for the right not to vote as much as the fight to be able to vote, not voting is simply exercising your rights. Voting is not a legal requirement so people should do as their conscience dictates. I wished more people did vote but should they have to? I personally think not. | |||
"To all those who say their not voting. Just think of all those who laid down their lives for you... many men and women gave their lives. It's very disrespectful to them all that you can not be bothered to use the rights that were so hard won for you. If you don't agree with any of the candidates in your area the least you can do is spoil you ballot papers. All spoilt ballots are counted and declared by the returning officer. That way you make your own statement as to the state of the electoral process in this country. use that right for all those who lost theirs ......." dont forget about the indians who fought and gave their lives against the nazis! | |||
"To all those who say their not voting. Just think of all those who laid down their lives for you... many men and women gave their lives. It's very disrespectful to them all that you can not be bothered to use the rights that were so hard won for you. If you don't agree with any of the candidates in your area the least you can do is spoil you ballot papers. All spoilt ballots are counted and declared by the returning officer. That way you make your own statement as to the state of the electoral process in this country. use that right for all those who lost theirs ....... I've voted in every ballot I've ever been allowed to since I became eligible to vote. Including police commissioner as I personally don't think police commissioners should be political party affiliated, but I digress. I think (just my personal take on things) the fight was for the right not to vote as much as the fight to be able to vote, not voting is simply exercising your rights. Voting is not a legal requirement so people should do as their conscience dictates. I wished more people did vote but should they have to? I personally think not. " well said, the government causes more problems than they solve | |||
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"Why moan about politics and then say you won't vote? If you're that against it, get off your arse and do something. " | |||
"I always soil (yes soil) my ballot paper. I think they're all corrupt self, indulgent smears. Wouldn't dream of not voting,my Grandad hid in his shed for 5 years,while people fought for our right to vote." | |||
"If everyone exercised their right to vote , it would truly represent a democracy in the truest sense of the word " I am not going to be boring and copy and paste a dictionary definition of the term into this post. While I admire your sentiment, the number of voters has no bearing on the definition. I prefer living under a democratic government than an unelected one, but the term "democracy" is too often seen as the same as "fairness." | |||
"I always soil (yes soil) my ballot paper. I think they're all corrupt self, indulgent smears. Wouldn't dream of not voting,my Grandad hid in his shed for 5 years,while people fought for our right to vote. " Agree, wish people would do this more, I will be spoiling my ballot, not soiling though. Just need to get my creative juices flowing. I like to make my ballot spoiling good entertainment. Still think voting is a matter of personal conscience though so frustrate me though it does, I don't think you can guilt people in to doing it. Maybe people then shouldn't moan but im not sure all non-voters are either purely lazy or apathetic. Some have probably gone through the pros and cons and decided that the candidates available, the type of voting system that we have and the general hopelessness of being governed by 'any of the above' means they won't. That doesn't mean their opinion on political matters is therefore invalid. Telling people they must vote is akin to telling them they can't vote. | |||
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"Forgot to say and yes I alwais vote to, for labour ." | |||