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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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well done brown
you spoke well and with genuine affection
i wish you well
didnt vote for you
glad labour have gone
but i thank you for going now and for the lovely speech you gave
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"He looked mighty relieved if you ask me."
So would I be having to carry the blame for all of the wrongs in the country
How much stress can one person cope with
I did'nt particularly like him but I hope he has a good rest and spends some stress free time being a husband and father |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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Wish him well but also glad he's gone.
If feels like there is an air of positivity in the country today. A new start with a dynamic new team. I'm quite prepared to give the new kids on the block a chance but ever ready with the swinging scythe to cut them down in five years time if they fuck it up.
Come on Britain! It's time to kick ass again!  |
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Well if they manage to get it into statute it looks like it may be Four years from now on, BUT...may well not get into statute, I expect to see plenty of MP's against it, many Tories included.
Hestletine scoffed about it yesterday, he preferred the present system of governments choosing the perfect time for elections... |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Well if they manage to get it into statute it looks like it may be Four years from now on, BUT...may well not get into statute, I expect to see plenty of MP's against it, many Tories included.
Hestletine scoffed about it yesterday, he preferred the present system of governments choosing the perfect time for elections..."
It's a fixed five year term. They've even said the next election will be May 7, 2015. .... I can feel a new thread forming!!!! .....  |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Well if they manage to get it into statute it looks like it may be Four years from now on, BUT...may well not get into statute, I expect to see plenty of MP's against it, many Tories included.
Hestletine scoffed about it yesterday, he preferred the present system of governments choosing the perfect time for elections..."
did he not also say that it would mean an end to the artificial manipulation of the markets etc just prior to a government calling a 'suprise' election, so not sure he was entirely against the idea.
Announced today that Parliaments will now be five year fixed term with next election to be first Thursday in May 2015
Cleggy is deputy PM and there will be 5 lib dems in the cabinet, Chris Huhn and vince cable in line for posts
Osbourne will be chancellor, Hague foreign secretary, Liam Fox defence and Andrew Lansley Health |
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According to Newsnight they haven't got a legal right to set a fixed term in law unless it has passed through the House and been written in statute, you can't just change the electoral system of the nation by writing it on the back of a fag packet.
There will be no fixed term governments in the UK until it goes to statute.
What they meant was the coalition has 'agreed' to run until May 2015, plenty can change in that time. Coalitions in other nations collapse all the time. The last New Zealand coalition lasted 15 months I believe. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"According to Newsnight they haven't got a legal right to set a fixed term in law unless it has passed through the House and been written in statute, you can't just change the electoral system of the nation by writing it on the back of a fag packet.
There will be no fixed term governments in the UK until it goes to statute.
What they meant was the coalition has 'agreed' to run until May 2015, plenty can change in that time. Coalitions in other nations collapse all the time. The last New Zealand coalition lasted 15 months I believe."
apparently they have agreed to put through primary legislation for this so can't see it not being passed quickly |
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By (user no longer on site)
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From what I saw yesterday on TV, even if they do fix it for five years and it becomes statute, it doesn't mean a coalition with last for five years. They could fall out at the next sitting of the house and then the Tories will have to run a minority goverment until 2015, but they certainly seem determined to push this through as law as soon as possible. |
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"According to Newsnight they haven't got a legal right to set a fixed term in law unless it has passed through the House and been written in statute, you can't just change the electoral system of the nation by writing it on the back of a fag packet.
There will be no fixed term governments in the UK until it goes to statute.
What they meant was the coalition has 'agreed' to run until May 2015, plenty can change in that time. Coalitions in other nations collapse all the time. The last New Zealand coalition lasted 15 months I believe.
apparently they have agreed to put through primary legislation for this so can't see it not being passed quickly"
Generally Eight to Ten weeks from White Paper to Statute.... |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"From what I saw yesterday on TV, even if they do fix it for five years and it becomes statute, it doesn't mean a coalition with last for five years. They could fall out at the next sitting of the house and then the Tories will have to run a minority goverment until 2015, but they certainly seem determined to push this through as law as soon as possible."
they both been looking for a deal that will provide a government and stability for several years at least.
Hague said that both sides have had to make compromises that have been difficult to swallow, but the Agreement has written into it that the libs can abstain from some government measures, e.g. married tax allowance, university funding etc
hopefully the unhappy MP's can be kept in line and give this government time to work |
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"From what I saw yesterday on TV, even if they do fix it for five years and it becomes statute, it doesn't mean a coalition with last for five years. They could fall out at the next sitting of the house and then the Tories will have to run a minority goverment until 2015, but they certainly seem determined to push this through as law as soon as possible."
Any collapse in this Coalition would result in a General Election surely?, if a coalition breaks up in any other nation it always means a general election.
In that sense it is no different than any previous UK government????
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By (user no longer on site)
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Let's hope it goes through then as I agree with Stu about it being unethical calling a snap just after the markets have been sweetened. Let them go to the country, whatever state the economy is in, at a fixed point in the future. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"From what I saw yesterday on TV, even if they do fix it for five years and it becomes statute, it doesn't mean a coalition with last for five years. They could fall out at the next sitting of the house and then the Tories will have to run a minority goverment until 2015, but they certainly seem determined to push this through as law as soon as possible.
Any collapse in this Coalition would result in a General Election surely?, if a coalition breaks up in any other nation it always means a general election.
In that sense it is no different than any previous UK government????
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if coalition breaks up then tories could opt to form minority government. Think it would take a vote of no confidence, or a voting down of subsequent queen's speech to force the election. I may be wrong on this though |
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"Let's hope it goes through then as I agree with Stu about it being unethical calling a snap just after the markets have been sweetened. Let them go to the country, whatever state the economy is in, at a fixed point in the future."
I agree totally with that, nothing worse than a government artificially manipulating the economy ahead os calling an election....or even having a war to win an election.. |
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"From what I saw yesterday on TV, even if they do fix it for five years and it becomes statute, it doesn't mean a coalition with last for five years. They could fall out at the next sitting of the house and then the Tories will have to run a minority goverment until 2015, but they certainly seem determined to push this through as law as soon as possible.
Any collapse in this Coalition would result in a General Election surely?, if a coalition breaks up in any other nation it always means a general election.
In that sense it is no different than any previous UK government????
if coalition breaks up then tories could opt to form minority government. Think it would take a vote of no confidence, or a voting down of subsequent queen's speech to force the election. I may be wrong on this though"
Not sure Stu, new to all of us... |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"I wonder how long it will be before people are saying they have had enough of cameron?
People waiting longer for NHS treatment, old people getting less support. The reduction in social care will go down without doubt. But on the positive side inheritance tax will go up   "
the inheritance tax plan has, I believe, been put on hold just now to pacify cleggy
as for the rest, I think it would have happened anyway regardless of who had formed the government as they tried to claw back some of the deficit. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"From what I saw yesterday on TV, even if they do fix it for five years and it becomes statute, it doesn't mean a coalition with last for five years. They could fall out at the next sitting of the house and then the Tories will have to run a minority goverment until 2015, but they certainly seem determined to push this through as law as soon as possible.
Any collapse in this Coalition would result in a General Election surely?, if a coalition breaks up in any other nation it always means a general election.
In that sense it is no different than any previous UK government????
if coalition breaks up then tories could opt to form minority government. Think it would take a vote of no confidence, or a voting down of subsequent queen's speech to force the election. I may be wrong on this though
Not sure Stu, new to all of us..."
Just had a quick browse through the institute of government's report "making minority government work"....looks like it would take a vote of no confidence in a minority government before a snap election called and queen asked to dissolve parliamnet |
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"From what I saw yesterday on TV, even if they do fix it for five years and it becomes statute, it doesn't mean a coalition with last for five years. They could fall out at the next sitting of the house and then the Tories will have to run a minority goverment until 2015, but they certainly seem determined to push this through as law as soon as possible.
Any collapse in this Coalition would result in a General Election surely?, if a coalition breaks up in any other nation it always means a general election.
In that sense it is no different than any previous UK government????
if coalition breaks up then tories could opt to form minority government. Think it would take a vote of no confidence, or a voting down of subsequent queen's speech to force the election. I may be wrong on this though
Not sure Stu, new to all of us...
Just had a quick browse through the institute of government's report "making minority government work"....looks like it would take a vote of no confidence in a minority government before a snap election called and queen asked to dissolve parliamnet"
Yes but it's not a Minority Government that has been accepted by the Queen....it is a Coalition Government. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"From what I saw yesterday on TV, even if they do fix it for five years and it becomes statute, it doesn't mean a coalition with last for five years. They could fall out at the next sitting of the house and then the Tories will have to run a minority goverment until 2015, but they certainly seem determined to push this through as law as soon as possible.
Any collapse in this Coalition would result in a General Election surely?, if a coalition breaks up in any other nation it always means a general election.
In that sense it is no different than any previous UK government????
if coalition breaks up then tories could opt to form minority government. Think it would take a vote of no confidence, or a voting down of subsequent queen's speech to force the election. I may be wrong on this though
Not sure Stu, new to all of us...
Just had a quick browse through the institute of government's report "making minority government work"....looks like it would take a vote of no confidence in a minority government before a snap election called and queen asked to dissolve parliamnet
Yes but it's not a Minority Government that has been accepted by the Queen....it is a Coalition Government."
If coalition breaks down he can, should he wish to, as leader of the largest party in the Commons, ask queenie for permission to form minority government...she is unlikely to refuse...it is the vote of no confidence that will trigger the election |
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"From what I saw yesterday on TV, even if they do fix it for five years and it becomes statute, it doesn't mean a coalition with last for five years. They could fall out at the next sitting of the house and then the Tories will have to run a minority goverment until 2015, but they certainly seem determined to push this through as law as soon as possible.
Any collapse in this Coalition would result in a General Election surely?, if a coalition breaks up in any other nation it always means a general election.
In that sense it is no different than any previous UK government????
if coalition breaks up then tories could opt to form minority government. Think it would take a vote of no confidence, or a voting down of subsequent queen's speech to force the election. I may be wrong on this though
Not sure Stu, new to all of us...
Just had a quick browse through the institute of government's report "making minority government work"....looks like it would take a vote of no confidence in a minority government before a snap election called and queen asked to dissolve parliamnet
Yes but it's not a Minority Government that has been accepted by the Queen....it is a Coalition Government.
If coalition breaks down he can, should he wish to, as leader of the largest party in the Commons, ask queenie for permission to form minority government...she is unlikely to refuse...it is the vote of no confidence that will trigger the election"
If the Coalition breaks down I am pretty sure Cameron would have to desolve Parliament and go to the Queen, I don't think you can change the rules halfway through a Government. |
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"Its a tory govt with a few token Lib Dems lol xx 
No, it's officially a Coalition Government. That is what has been officially formed and accepted by the Queen.
DANGER Wind up merchant in action xxx "
Why?, Cameron asked permission of the Queen to form a Coalition Government...not a Minority Conservative Government.
It has to one or the other under Constitutional Law. |
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"Its a tory govt with a few token Lib Dems lol xx
No, it's officially a Coalition Government. That is what has been officially formed and accepted by the Queen.
DANGER Wind up merchant in action xxx
Why?, Cameron asked permission of the Queen to form a Coalition Government...not a Minority Conservative Government.
It has to one or the other under Constitutional Law."
No im the wind up merchant not you lol xx  |
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"Its a tory govt with a few token Lib Dems lol xx
No, it's officially a Coalition Government. That is what has been officially formed and accepted by the Queen.
DANGER Wind up merchant in action xxx
Why?, Cameron asked permission of the Queen to form a Coalition Government...not a Minority Conservative Government.
It has to one or the other under Constitutional Law.
No im the wind up merchant not you lol xx "
Grrrr....Little fecker.. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Its a tory govt with a few token Lib Dems lol xx
No, it's officially a Coalition Government. That is what has been officially formed and accepted by the Queen.
DANGER Wind up merchant in action xxx
Why?, Cameron asked permission of the Queen to form a Coalition Government...not a Minority Conservative Government.
It has to one or the other under Constitutional Law."
have given up with the reform reports so have just e mailed the house of commons for an answer on this one |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"I wonder how long it will be before people are saying they have had enough of cameron?
People waiting longer for NHS treatment, old people getting less support. The reduction in social care will go down without doubt. But on the positive side inheritance tax will go up "
Oh change the record puuurlease! The needle's stuck! |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"I wonder how long it will be before people are saying they have had enough of cameron?
People waiting longer for NHS treatment, old people getting less support. The reduction in social care will go down without doubt. But on the positive side inheritance tax will go up
Oh change the record puuurlease! The needle's stuck! "
come on you know its coming!! take the specs off for five mins!! we just dont know where exactly but its always the way whether you like it or not x |
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"Let's hope it goes through then as I agree with Stu about it being unethical calling a snap just after the markets have been sweetened. Let them go to the country, whatever state the economy is in, at a fixed point in the future.
I agree totally with that, nothing worse than a government artificially manipulating the economy ahead os calling an election....or even having a war to win an election.."
umm
so you don't think an illegal war, on the back of knowingly false claims of WMD, and the subsequent slaughter of 100,000's ( by all sides granted ) is worse than using the Falklands conflict to boost popularity before an election is worse?
strange times indeed. |
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