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By *ig bad OP Man over a year ago

Up North :-)

Who is betting on who?

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By *ushroom7Man over a year ago

Bradford

Oh my Darling, oh my Darling

odds stacked against lol

£200bn to 1

Did i hear things correctly : "We do not and will not support the bailout fund for the Eurozone."

But it is then stated that our contribution will be £8bn.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Oh my Darling, oh my Darling

odds stacked against lol

£200bn to 1

Did i hear things correctly : "We do not and will not support the bailout fund for the Eurozone."

But it is then stated that our contribution will be £8bn.

is it no if greece defaults we are 8billion down??

sure makes my scrabblin down the back of the couch for a pound seem trivial!! xx

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By *atisfy janeWoman over a year ago

Torquay

Oh my Darling, oh my Darling

odds stacked against lol

£200bn to 1

Did i hear things correctly : "We do not and will not support the bailout fund for the Eurozone."

But it is then stated that our contribution will be £8bn.

The £8bn is only at risk in the event of a 100% default by a Eurozone member, other countries are at far greater a risk....ie the Germans at £31bn.

The chances of a 100% default?, virtually nil according to Channel 4 news.

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By *atisfy janeWoman over a year ago

Torquay

Going back to the OP's question....I expect Labour party members to vote for Alan Johnson.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

So Darling's just spent another £8bn of our money that we haven't got to prop up a currency that has nothing to do with us?

I feel like going down town and dropping my wallet in the river for all the control I have over it!

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By *oe_Steve_NWestCouple over a year ago

Bolton

Well i was thinking of standing myself as i have some quite good ideas i wanna put into practice and see if i can turn this place around

Steve

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Oh my Darling, oh my Darling

odds stacked against lol

£200bn to 1

Did i hear things correctly : "We do not and will not support the bailout fund for the Eurozone."

But it is then stated that our contribution will be £8bn.

Correct! The eurozone countries will have to fend for themselves without one euro be underwritten by the British tax payer.

However, we're part of the IMF and has such our contribution is £8b and this can be used.

I was really paying much attention to Darling and he did a lot of quick talking but I think that's what he said!

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By *atisfy janeWoman over a year ago

Torquay

"So Darling's just spent another £8bn of our money that we haven't got to prop up a currency that has nothing to do with us?

I feel like going down town and dropping my wallet in the river for all the control I have over it!

Acting as Guarantor for £8bn isn't quite the same as giving £8bn in an up front payment, much the same as the UK bank bail outs, very little money was actually given to most of the banks....it was just a promisy note in the event of the money being needed, which in almost all cases it wasn't needed.

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By *iamondsmiles.Woman over a year ago

little house on the praire

Ozzy osbourne

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By *ushroom7Man over a year ago

Bradford

Oh my Darling, oh my Darling

odds stacked against lol

£200bn to 1

Did i hear things correctly : "We do not and will not support the bailout fund for the Eurozone."

But it is then stated that our contribution will be £8bn.

is it no if greece defaults we are 8billion down??

sure makes my scrabblin down the back of the couch for a pound seem trivial!! xx"

yeh, it could be, i often only read the headline.

i would offer to pound you over the settee but i won't, it'd be a trivial pursuit

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Oh my Darling, oh my Darling

odds stacked against lol

£200bn to 1

Did i hear things correctly : "We do not and will not support the bailout fund for the Eurozone."

But it is then stated that our contribution will be £8bn.

is it no if greece defaults we are 8billion down??

sure makes my scrabblin down the back of the couch for a pound seem trivial!! xx

yeh, it could be, i often only read the headline.

i would offer to pound you over the settee but i won't, it'd be a trivial pursuit

il take the coin probably last longer!!

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By *ushroom7Man over a year ago

Bradford

"So Darling's just spent another £8bn of our money that we haven't got to prop up a currency that has nothing to do with us?

I feel like going down town and dropping my wallet in the river for all the control I have over it!

what time, when and where

i have some scottish blood in me and need every penny i can get

yours

G Brown

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

David Milliband.

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By *ig bad OP Man over a year ago

Up North :-)

What about Edd Balls! It's worth it for the name alone

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By *exeteraWoman over a year ago

Bridgend

I'd say Johnson too

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By *ig bad OP Man over a year ago

Up North :-)

I can see the ne3wspaper headlines!

Cameron goes for Balls!!! You just know the red top headline writers have some crap ready

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Labour won't elect themselves a new leader - Clegg will, he brought about the resignation of the last one didn't he?

Old "I WON'T BE KINGMAKER" Cleggy!

I'm trusting that man less and less the longer this farce goes on.

We have two parties who did not win the election, pushing out the encumbent Prime Minister, because Kingy Cleggy don't like him, to elect yet another PM that hasn't faced the ballot box.

...A government without a leader being coerced by a man with fewer MPs than both Labour and the Conservatives, who claimed he will not be a kingmaker.

er... Sounds like a kingmaker to me.

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By *ushroom7Man over a year ago

Bradford

sounds like a twat to me

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By *ig bad OP Man over a year ago

Up North :-)

"Labour won't elect themselves a new leader - Clegg will, he brought about the resignation of the last one didn't he?

Old "I WON'T BE KINGMAKER" Cleggy!

I'm trusting that man less and less the longer this farce goes on.

We have two parties who did not win the election, pushing out the encumbent Prime Minister, because Kingy Cleggy don't like him, to elect yet another PM that hasn't faced the ballot box.

...A government without a leader being coerced by a man with fewer MPs than both Labour and the Conservatives, who claimed he will not be a kingmaker.

er... Sounds like a kingmaker to me."

Sorry wishy but i can't help but smile.

It looks like the wrong red and the wrong blue

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By *ushroom7Man over a year ago

Bradford

I vote for a coalition of Harmon, Blears, Hillier.

Oh, and throw in Ms Cooper too for what good it will do.

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By *ickmealloverWoman over a year ago

a very plush appartment off junt 7 M5

"Labour won't elect themselves a new leader - Clegg will, he brought about the resignation of the last one didn't he?

Old "I WON'T BE KINGMAKER" Cleggy!

I'm trusting that man less and less the longer this farce goes on.

We have two parties who did not win the election, pushing out the encumbent Prime Minister, because Kingy Cleggy don't like him, to elect yet another PM that hasn't faced the ballot box.

...A government without a leader being coerced by a man with fewer MPs than both Labour and the Conservatives, who claimed he will not be a kingmaker.

er... Sounds like a kingmaker to me.

Sorry wishy but i can't help but smile.

It looks like the wrong red and the wrong blue

Haha there is no pleasing some folk

The country doesn't HAVE to choose a leader, just a party doh!

I hope its a rank outsider, maybe one of the old REDs

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By *ickmealloverWoman over a year ago

a very plush appartment off junt 7 M5

I vote for a coalition of Harmon, Blears, Hillier.

Oh, and throw in Ms Cooper too for what good it will do."

Yvette Cooper

Oh My Word

Met her in Yorkshire, shes as 2 faced as they come

The poverty in her home down is appauling and when you consider the expenses that she claims its a joke

She is a joke

I would prefer Prescott to her, you know where you are with him

I could see him chinning Sarkozi

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Labour won't elect themselves a new leader - Clegg will, he brought about the resignation of the last one didn't he?

Old "I WON'T BE KINGMAKER" Cleggy!

I'm trusting that man less and less the longer this farce goes on.

We have two parties who did not win the election, pushing out the encumbent Prime Minister, because Kingy Cleggy don't like him, to elect yet another PM that hasn't faced the ballot box.

...A government without a leader being coerced by a man with fewer MPs than both Labour and the Conservatives, who claimed he will not be a kingmaker.

er... Sounds like a kingmaker to me.

Sorry wishy but i can't help but smile.

It looks like the wrong red and the wrong blue

Hey, I gave up on the PL two weeks ago.

Still, we got 18 titles. Chelsea have got .. um... 4.

(1954-55, 2004-2005, 2005-2006 and this @%*$&*! year - )

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By *ushroom7Man over a year ago

Bradford

and her fella, Mr Balls Up

so, thats double expenses

if prezza chins sarki can i go down and give mouth to ..... on carla?

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By *ig bad OP Man over a year ago

Up North :-)

"Labour won't elect themselves a new leader - Clegg will, he brought about the resignation of the last one didn't he?

Old "I WON'T BE KINGMAKER" Cleggy!

I'm trusting that man less and less the longer this farce goes on.

We have two parties who did not win the election, pushing out the encumbent Prime Minister, because Kingy Cleggy don't like him, to elect yet another PM that hasn't faced the ballot box.

...A government without a leader being coerced by a man with fewer MPs than both Labour and the Conservatives, who claimed he will not be a kingmaker.

er... Sounds like a kingmaker to me.

Sorry wishy but i can't help but smile.

It looks like the wrong red and the wrong blue

Hey, I gave up on the PL two weeks ago.

Still, we got 18 titles. Chelsea have got .. um... 4.

(1954-55, 2004-2005, 2005-2006 and this @%*$&*! year - )"

Hey i ain't happy with this season either that i can tell you! Chelsea are only marginally better than your lot at the other end of the east lancs road!

I am just smiling at the irony of red and blue but in the wrong order.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

I'm getting a little tired of this worn out argument that we don't elect a Prime Minister. We do. We watched the Prime Ministerial candidates on the Prime Ministerial Debates (three of them, remember) explaining their respective parties policies on what they would do IF THEY WERE ELECTED AS PRIME MINSTER. (remember that bit? They all said it - "If I am elected Prime Minister" - apart from Brown, who begged to be given another chance to remain Prime Minister).

Funnily enough, I can't recall any of them saying - "Please elect Mr. Whoever as MP for Dunny-on-the-Wold cos he really really really needs a new bypass around his town to stop all the little bunny wunnies getting run over!"

Nope, didn't hear that mentioned once - they probably forgot due to nerves eh?

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By *ickmealloverWoman over a year ago

a very plush appartment off junt 7 M5

you elect THE LABOUR PARTY for their policies

You DO NOT ELECT 1 MAN jeezus!!

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By *ig bad OP Man over a year ago

Up North :-)

"you elect THE LABOUR PARTY for their policies

You DO NOT ELECT 1 MAN jeezus!!

Naaaa i would go for the best sounding name any time

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By *ushroom7Man over a year ago

Bradford

"you elect THE LABOUR PARTY for their policies

You DO NOT ELECT 1 MAN jeezus!!

jeez,

90% of their voters don't elect them for their policies

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By *ickmealloverWoman over a year ago

a very plush appartment off junt 7 M5

"you elect THE LABOUR PARTY for their policies

You DO NOT ELECT 1 MAN jeezus!!

Naaaa i would go for the best sounding name any time

Which is? lol

Lemit Opik was my favorite but hes not longer AN MP LOL

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"you elect THE LABOUR PARTY for their policies

You DO NOT ELECT 1 MAN jeezus!!

OK, I ask you this, Would you have voted for Labour had Peter Sutcliffe been it's leader. Remember, the policies are Labour's, not it's leader.

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By *ickmealloverWoman over a year ago

a very plush appartment off junt 7 M5

"you elect THE LABOUR PARTY for their policies

You DO NOT ELECT 1 MAN jeezus!!

jeez,

90% of their voters don't elect them for their policies

THEY DAMN WELL SHOULD

thats the whole point surely

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By *ig bad OP Man over a year ago

Up North :-)

"you elect THE LABOUR PARTY for their policies

You DO NOT ELECT 1 MAN jeezus!!

Naaaa i would go for the best sounding name any time

Which is? lol

Lemit Opik was my favorite but hes not longer AN MP LOL"

He was on tv this week with Jo Brand and he was Hilarious!!

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"you elect THE LABOUR PARTY for their policies

You DO NOT ELECT 1 MAN jeezus!!

jeez,

90% of their voters don't elect them for their policies

90% of voters haven't got a fookin scooby who their MP is.

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By *ickmealloverWoman over a year ago

a very plush appartment off junt 7 M5

"you elect THE LABOUR PARTY for their policies

You DO NOT ELECT 1 MAN jeezus!!

OK, I ask you this, Would you have voted for Labour had Peter Sutcliffe been it's leader. Remember, the policies are Labour's, not it's leader."

ow how churlish

Of course hes not going to be is he

What a silly point that was to make

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By *ickmealloverWoman over a year ago

a very plush appartment off junt 7 M5

"you elect THE LABOUR PARTY for their policies

You DO NOT ELECT 1 MAN jeezus!!

jeez,

90% of their voters don't elect them for their policies

90% of voters haven't got a fookin scooby who their MP is."

In your opinion

Nearly every one I know does

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"you elect THE LABOUR PARTY for their policies

You DO NOT ELECT 1 MAN jeezus!!

OK, I ask you this, Would you have voted for Labour had Peter Sutcliffe been it's leader. Remember, the policies are Labour's, not it's leader.

ow how churlish

Of course hes not going to be is he

What a silly point that was to make

It was a perfectly reasonably question to ask. You said we don't vote for one man, I'm saying that we do, regardless oh who's name is on the ballot paper. I voted Tory but don't ask me the name of the man I actually voted for - it may as well have been bugs bunny for all I care - it was the national result I wanted. Cameron as PM. As that means the Tories are in government. That's what people see in a General Election and that's also why Local Elections are a very different affair. How is it that the Liberals have far more success at local elections than general elections?

Because in a local election the voters look at who the candidates are.

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By *ickmealloverWoman over a year ago

a very plush appartment off junt 7 M5

"you elect THE LABOUR PARTY for their policies

You DO NOT ELECT 1 MAN jeezus!!

Naaaa i would go for the best sounding name any time

Which is? lol

Lemit Opik was my favorite but hes not longer AN MP LOL

He was on tv this week with Jo Brand and he was Hilarious!!

I saw it

It was funny

I've met him he is always funny s o it seems

I know the lib dems I spoke to were thoroughly pissed off with reading about his sex life though

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

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By *ickmealloverWoman over a year ago

a very plush appartment off junt 7 M5

"you elect THE LABOUR PARTY for their policies

You DO NOT ELECT 1 MAN jeezus!!

OK, I ask you this, Would you have voted for Labour had Peter Sutcliffe been it's leader. Remember, the policies are Labour's, not it's leader.

ow how churlish

Of course hes not going to be is he

What a silly point that was to make

Because in a local election the voters look at who the candidates are. "

My view was that it was and still is a silly point to make and I stand by that remark

You clearly vote for the party and not the man that leads it end of

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"you elect THE LABOUR PARTY for their policies

You DO NOT ELECT 1 MAN jeezus!!

jeez,

90% of their voters don't elect them for their policies

90% of voters haven't got a fookin scooby who their MP is.

In your opinion

Nearly every one I know does

Well, they would do, if your social circle is peppered with political activists. I've garnered that much info from your posts as you've met this MP and that MP etc.. so you must be poltically active.

I was myself a long time ago. For the Liberals lol.

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By *ushroom7Man over a year ago

Bradford

"you elect THE LABOUR PARTY for their policies

You DO NOT ELECT 1 MAN jeezus!!

OK, I ask you this, Would you have voted for Labour had Peter Sutcliffe been it's leader. Remember, the policies are Labour's, not it's leader."

Definitely.

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By *ickmealloverWoman over a year ago

a very plush appartment off junt 7 M5

"you elect THE LABOUR PARTY for their policies

You DO NOT ELECT 1 MAN jeezus!!

jeez,

90% of their voters don't elect them for their policies

90% of voters haven't got a fookin scooby who their MP is.

In your opinion

Nearly every one I know does

Well, they would do, if your social circle is peppered with political activists. I've garnered that much info from your posts as you've met this MP and that MP etc.. so you must be poltically active.

I was myself a long time ago. For the Liberals lol."

I socialise with people from all walks of life not just politically active people so again you make a sweeping assumption

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By *ushroom7Man over a year ago

Bradford

"you elect THE LABOUR PARTY for their policies

You DO NOT ELECT 1 MAN jeezus!!

jeez,

90% of their voters don't elect them for their policies

90% of voters haven't got a fookin scooby who their MP is.

In your opinion

Nearly every one I know does

Well, they would do, if your social circle is peppered with political activists. I've garnered that much info from your posts as you've met this MP and that MP etc.. so you must be poltically active.

I was myself a long time ago. For the Liberals lol."

hmmmm, you have a point there wishy

i'm beginning to wonder if j7 is anywhere near Redditch

and there a couple of pornies about

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By *ickmealloverWoman over a year ago

a very plush appartment off junt 7 M5

"you elect THE LABOUR PARTY for their policies

You DO NOT ELECT 1 MAN jeezus!!

jeez,

90% of their voters don't elect them for their policies

90% of voters haven't got a fookin scooby who their MP is.

In your opinion

Nearly every one I know does

Well, they would do, if your social circle is peppered with political activists. I've garnered that much info from your posts as you've met this MP and that MP etc.. so you must be poltically active.

I was myself a long time ago. For the Liberals lol.

hmmmm, you have a point there wishy

i'm beginning to wonder if j7 is anywhere near Redditch

and there a couple of pornies about"

Junct 7 is Malvern NOT REDDITCH

And its a Tory stronghold, no labour will get in here for the next decade even

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"You clearly vote for the party and not the man that leads it end of "

I vote for the guy I think will best serve British interests abroad as we live in a very small world now and what happens internationally is as equally important as what happens down the road. A local MP can only follow his national party's policies and if there is no cash for a bypass, he can't get one for his constituency. That's how it works, and if he tries to buck the trend he gets slapped down by the Whip at best, kicked out of the Party at worst. It is incredibly niave to think there is no link between local MPs and their national obligations to their party and their country.

My chance to protest at what I consider to be national issues is by using my vote at the local elections, but I know with 100% certainty that I do not want to use my vote at a General Election as a protest vote and potentially and unintentionally elect a party that I fundamentally disagree with.

In a weird twist of fate, both Cameron & Clegg have held meetings with their entire parliamentary parties, which includes many newly elected MPs that have absolutely no idea what happens in the corridors of power - and 'we' put them there. To decide the fate of a nation. How fucked up is that.

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By *ushroom7Man over a year ago

Bradford

"you elect THE LABOUR PARTY for their policies

You DO NOT ELECT 1 MAN jeezus!!

jeez,

90% of their voters don't elect them for their policies

90% of voters haven't got a fookin scooby who their MP is.

In your opinion

Nearly every one I know does

Well, they would do, if your social circle is peppered with political activists. I've garnered that much info from your posts as you've met this MP and that MP etc.. so you must be poltically active.

I was myself a long time ago. For the Liberals lol.

hmmmm, you have a point there wishy

i'm beginning to wonder if j7 is anywhere near Redditch

and there a couple of pornies about

Junct 7 is Malvern NOT REDDITCH

And its a Tory stronghold, no labour will get in here for the next decade even"

point proven,

99.9% of Tories will vote Tory regardless of policies in the next decade.

same as in this labour stronghold

until PR, when islamic parties will sprout

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By *ickmealloverWoman over a year ago

a very plush appartment off junt 7 M5

"You clearly vote for the party and not the man that leads it end of

I know how things work

You dont need to TELL ME.

But you do vote for the party and not the man

I just say it and know its true and use less words

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

" until PR, when islamic parties will sprout"

...ain't that a scarey thought!

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"I know how things work

You dont need to TELL ME.

But you do vote for the party and not the man

I just say it and know its true and use less words "

If you do know how things work then you are just being belligerent and argumentative for the sake of it.

You know full well why people vote the way they do and why Liberal support fell away at the last minute.

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By *ickmealloverWoman over a year ago

a very plush appartment off junt 7 M5

"I know how things work

You dont need to TELL ME.

But you do vote for the party and not the man

I just say it and know its true and use less words

If you do know how things work then you are just being belligerent and argumentative for the sake of it.

You know full well why people vote the way they do and why Liberal support fell away at the last minute."

Again that is just your opinion

I am not arguing with you

It is a fact

Believe it or not

I care not

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

you have taken great pains to argue with me at every opportunity over the last three weeks.

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By *ushroom7Man over a year ago

Bradford

I care not"

you SURE it's not Redditch?

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By *ickmealloverWoman over a year ago

a very plush appartment off junt 7 M5

"you have taken great pains to argue with me at every opportunity over the last three weeks."

No I have exprssed my opinion

Its different as well you know

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By *ickmealloverWoman over a year ago

a very plush appartment off junt 7 M5

I care not

you SURE it's not Redditch?"

I should know

I flippin live here dear

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By *ickmealloverWoman over a year ago

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"you have taken great pains to argue with me at every opportunity over the last three weeks."

I commented on very few of your posts in actual fact

I think others responded more to you

I do go out of my way to try hard not to in fact

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

I care not

you SURE it's not Redditch?"

No, it's Whittington/Crookbarrow Way/Norton Road .. ish!

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By *ickmealloverWoman over a year ago

a very plush appartment off junt 7 M5

I care not

you SURE it's not Redditch?

No, it's Whittington/Crookbarrow Way/Norton Road .. ish!

I live off junct 7

as in it is closest motorway junct to me

I should know

I use it most days lol

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Does your junction really matter on the worst day for the British Electorate since 1979?? XXX

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By *ickmealloverWoman over a year ago

a very plush appartment off junt 7 M5

"Does your junction really matter on the worst day for the British Electorate since 1979?? XXX"

No but they will insist on telling me where I know I live

It clearly says off junct 7

Not that I live right on top of it lol

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

I've driven it myself may times this past year on my way to and from work in South Wales... now there's a fooked up motorway.. the M4 from Bristol to Swansea... never seen so many changing speed restrictions grrrrr

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By *ickmealloverWoman over a year ago

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I know the M4 reasonably well

I have family/friends along it or off it or near it whichever suits folk lol

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Who is betting on who?"

Nick Clegg?

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Next Leader Of The labour Party?????......

Mandy Mandelson......Lord of All He Surveys And Everything Else He Wants

Job'll probably go the the grey man David "Don't Call Me Dave" Milliband

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Next Leader Of The labour Party?????......

Mandy Mandelson......Lord of All He Surveys And Everything Else He Wants

Job'll probably go the the grey man David "Don't Call Me Dave" Milliband"

What if he gives his brother the 2nd in command job? The country run by two brothers? Hmmm I'm not liking the look of that at all, I hope neither of them get it.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

And if Ed Balls up gets it then "im leaving on a jet plane dont know when ill be back again" xx

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"And if Ed Balls up gets it then "im leaving on a jet plane dont know when ill be back again" xx

waves soapy goodbye (pssssst....can I have your bottle of Matey bubble bath when you go??)

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

i was just thinkin last nite i hadnt heard the " oh if so and so gets in im leavin the country" last time i remember it was jim davidson and paul daniels when labour got in.....and the pair of twats never did bloody leave!!!

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"And if Ed Balls up gets it then "im leaving on a jet plane dont know when ill be back again" xx

I can't see any of the Labour big cheeses as PM tbh.. the Mili Bros? Nah. Johnson? Nah. Just can't picture them as PM.

Cam's the Man.

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By *ickmealloverWoman over a year ago

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"i was just thinkin last nite i hadnt heard the " oh if so and so gets in im leavin the country" last time i remember it was jim davidson and paul daniels when labour got in.....and the pair of twats never did bloody leave!!!

no unfortunately

if you say something, at least stick to it

we may still get a lib lab pact as yet

Nothing has been decided

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"And if Ed Balls up gets it then "im leaving on a jet plane dont know when ill be back again" xx

I can't see any of the Labour big cheeses as PM tbh.. the Mili Bros? Nah. Johnson? Nah. Just can't picture them as PM.

Cam's the Man. "

Cameron may wish to lead the labour party but i don't think they will have him. David Miliband for the nest PM.

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By *ickmealloverWoman over a year ago

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"And if Ed Balls up gets it then "im leaving on a jet plane dont know when ill be back again" xx

I can't see any of the Labour big cheeses as PM tbh.. the Mili Bros? Nah. Johnson? Nah. Just can't picture them as PM.

Cam's the Man.

Cameron may wish to lead the labour party but i don't think they will have him. David Miliband for the nest PM."

lol yes hes confused.

Fist of all no one votes for the party now he forgets which party has which leader.

blimey, its all getting too stressful.

Have you fixed that shed yet

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By *atisfy janeWoman over a year ago

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"And if Ed Balls up gets it then "im leaving on a jet plane dont know when ill be back again" xx

I can't see any of the Labour big cheeses as PM tbh.. the Mili Bros? Nah. Johnson? Nah. Just can't picture them as PM.

Cam's the Man. "

With all due respect it's whether Labour Party members can see them as PM that matters, without being too sarcastic (honest) the Labour party won't be taking in the thoughts and wishes of 'Tory Boys'.....You would be right up against it if Johnson was made leader, he is so much stronger and so much a better speaker than Brown..

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Interestingly, Brown promised that he would not speak to the Libdems until or unless talks with the Conservatives had broken down. Talks haven't broken down and Brown IS talking to the Libdems. He's gone back on his promise only five days after making it.

This is all beginning to look seedy now. Back room deals done in the dead of night between parties that didn't win the election and one of which is effectively leaderless. It has a bad smell about it..... and so much for doing what's best for Britain.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Thinks it's highly unlikely mr ed balls up will get it lol so ya stuck with me xx

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By *atisfy janeWoman over a year ago

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"Interestingly, Brown promised that he would not speak to the Libdems until or unless talks with the Conservatives had broken down. Talks haven't broken down and Brown IS talking to the Libdems. He's gone back on his promise only five days after making it.

Is that what he said?, didn't he pledge to allow the Lib Dems to talk to the Tories first?

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By *atisfy janeWoman over a year ago

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Thinks it's highly unlikely mr ed balls up will get it lol so ya stuck with me xx

I doubt if Ed Balls would make the second round of voting, there are Two clear camps within the party....One is the Miliband camp (either one) and the other is the Johnson camp.

In other words the Milibands represent the 'Greys' and Johnson represents the 'Old School' or Left side of the party.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Is that what he said?, didn't he pledge to allow the Lib Dems to talk to the Tories first?"

No, his actual words were, "We would like the chance to do a deal if talks with the Conservatives failed," he then went on to say that "Mr Cameron and Mr Clegg should take "as much time as they feel necessary".

I don't blame Clegg for exploring every avenue open to him but it cannot be disputed that Brown, in a very carefully planned political swerve, made a promise that he had no intention of keeping, he further compounded that by promising to resign before the Labour Party Conference in September, some 20 weeks from now! Brown could be PM for another five months after promising to resign. This is a man clinging to power by his fingernails. I can envisage him clinging onto the door of No.10 as he his dragged out by his legs, screaming, "Let me stay! Please let me stay!"

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By *atisfy janeWoman over a year ago

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By *atisfy janeWoman over a year ago

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To be fair we don't know who approached who for talks, it could just have easily been the Lib Dems that approached Labour...only they know that.

And regarding the Brown resigning in 20 weeks is concerned, he has pledged to be replaced as leader by the time of the Labour Conference in September....Labour have 20 weeks in order to arrange and plan a leadership contest, it will in all likelyhood be cut and dried long before September.

It doesn't mean the party will not hold a vote until September...it's a time frame.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

I think Miliband would be best because he is young looking and comes across well.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Thinks it's highly unlikely mr ed balls up will get it lol so ya stuck with me xx

dammit lol!!! only joking bubbles i love you like micheal jackson loved bubbles!!!

be interestin to see who gettin the job where can you get the forms??

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By *atisfy janeWoman over a year ago

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"I think Miliband would be best because he is young looking and comes across well."

Which one though?

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By *ickmealloverWoman over a year ago

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I think its gonna be difficult

as hes got to be liked by the public wether hes doing a good job or not

I hope we get one of the old reds I really do, kick all the new yuppy types into touch a bit

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"I think its gonna be difficult

as hes got to be liked by the public wether hes doing a good job or not

I hope we get one of the old reds I really do, kick all the new yuppy types into touch a bit"

the old reds nearly killed labour off...they aint gonna want to risk another generation in the political wilderness by electing one of the old lefty reds as new leader

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By *ickmealloverWoman over a year ago

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"I think its gonna be difficult

as hes got to be liked by the public wether hes doing a good job or not

I hope we get one of the old reds I really do, kick all the new yuppy types into touch a bit

the old reds nearly killed labour off...they aint gonna want to risk another generation in the political wilderness by electing one of the old lefty reds as new leader"

I think its unlikely

But I would still like to see it

I think Hilary Benn would make a damn good leader and his roots are rold labour I suppose even though hes not old

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By *atisfy janeWoman over a year ago

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"I think its gonna be difficult

as hes got to be liked by the public wether hes doing a good job or not

I hope we get one of the old reds I really do, kick all the new yuppy types into touch a bit

the old reds nearly killed labour off...they aint gonna want to risk another generation in the political wilderness by electing one of the old lefty reds as new leader"

Alan Johnson....an In-Betweenie

Former postman, educated in a Grammar School on a scholarship, worked his way up from Union Branch Rep to Leader of the Communication Workers Union, MP since 1997.....Perfect choice

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By *istress SassyCouple over a year ago

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"This is all beginning to look seedy now. Back room deals done in the dead of night between parties that didn't win the election and one of which is effectively leaderless. It has a bad smell about it..... and so much for doing what's best for Britain."

That's what happens when no one party wins an election. Like it not, while the tories may have got more seats, they didn't get enough, meaning that more than half the population didn't vote for them. Ero, deals must be made.

Brown isn't clinging on to power, that's an absurd statement. He has already said he will step down, but these things take time. He in effect, cannot resign in the current situation as the country would be left without a PM and the queen would have to choose one.

Some sort of coalition must be agreed first and then the leadership change would need to happen afterwards. Yes behind closed doors there may be agreements on whom the Lib Dems would like, but thats not how it works. The Labour Party will go through it's own internal processes to elect someone. That won't necessarily be who Clegg would have preferred.

In terms of the new leader of the Labour Party, there are already several names being thrown into the hat, including David Milliband, Ed Balls, Alan Johnson, as well as the less well known John McDonnell and Jon Cruddas. I also wouldn't be suprise if Harrier Harmen ends up being a contender either.

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By *ickmealloverWoman over a year ago

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"I think its gonna be difficult

as hes got to be liked by the public wether hes doing a good job or not

I hope we get one of the old reds I really do, kick all the new yuppy types into touch a bit

the old reds nearly killed labour off...they aint gonna want to risk another generation in the political wilderness by electing one of the old lefty reds as new leader

Alan Johnson....an In-Betweenie

Former postman, educated in a Grammar School on a scholarship, worked his way up from Union Branch Rep to Leader of the Communication Workers Union, MP since 1997.....Perfect choice"

I don't disagree with you at all.

Hes not one of the born with a silver spoon brigade, unlike almost all of the torys who are often landed gentry really with the size of their estates

most of the serving labour party are at least men that had a "proper job" with real people at some point

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By *ickmealloverWoman over a year ago

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God I hope Harman doesn't

She will put men off women for ever.

Empoyers are already put off employing women of childbearing age beacause of the huge ammount of time they can take off work for their lifestyle choice

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By *atisfy janeWoman over a year ago

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"I think its gonna be difficult

as hes got to be liked by the public wether hes doing a good job or not

I hope we get one of the old reds I really do, kick all the new yuppy types into touch a bit

the old reds nearly killed labour off...they aint gonna want to risk another generation in the political wilderness by electing one of the old lefty reds as new leader

Alan Johnson....an In-Betweenie

Former postman, educated in a Grammar School on a scholarship, worked his way up from Union Branch Rep to Leader of the Communication Workers Union, MP since 1997.....Perfect choice

I don't disagree with you at all.

Hes not one of the born with a silver spoon brigade, unlike almost all of the torys who are often landed gentry really with the size of their estates

most of the serving labour party are at least men that had a "proper job" with real people at some point "

Brought up by his older sister in a council flat, left school at 15 and feeling totally sick of being surrounded by children of well heeled Tories.

Stacked supermarket shelves for two and a half years before becoming a postman.

The man has proved himself supremely capable of negotiating, Thatcher described him as 'Little Stalin'....so that's a winner!

The Association of Chief Constables last year described him as the best Home Secretary of the decade.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"God I hope Harman doesn't

She will put men off women for ever.

Empoyers are already put off employing women of childbearing age beacause of the huge ammount of time they can take off work for their lifestyle choice"

well they wanted everyone workin and to have the balance between work and family life!

you know your damned if you do your damned if you dont!

oh and men also have that right to ask for flexible working its just that not many do it

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By *ickmealloverWoman over a year ago

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"God I hope Harman doesn't

She will put men off women for ever.

Empoyers are already put off employing women of childbearing age beacause of the huge ammount of time they can take off work for their lifestyle choice

well they wanted everyone workin and to have the balance between work and family life!

you know your damned if you do your damned if you dont!

oh and men also have that right to ask for flexible working its just that not many do it

xx"

I dont think its your employers job to be flexible if you choose to have children

I worked around my children

So I know it can be done

I mean NOT having children has never been so easy so it you cant do both then maybe folk shouldn't

Thats just my opinion mind

I hear so much from people with no kids and the resentment is huge

They have to cover for parents all the time

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

had a look at alan johnston on wiki, never most reliable source but was quick and i liked what i seen!!

good union man marxist thinker only bit im no struck on was his stance in the war but cant please everyone i suppose!! x

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"God I hope Harman doesn't

She will put men off women for ever.

Empoyers are already put off employing women of childbearing age beacause of the huge ammount of time they can take off work for their lifestyle choice

well they wanted everyone workin and to have the balance between work and family life!

you know your damned if you do your damned if you dont!

oh and men also have that right to ask for flexible working its just that not many do it

I dont think its your employers job to be flexible if you choose to have children

I worked around my children

So I know it can be done

I mean NOT having children has never been so easy so it you cant do both then maybe folk shouldn't

Thats just my opinion mind

I hear so much from people with no kids and the resentment is huge

They have to cover for parents all the time"

sorry but bollocks!

yeah it is possible to work round havin a family if you can get suitable childcare and a job round it, but other times its nigh on impossible! im one of the lucky ones i had my family to watch mine, and thats when i was nightshift worker for others its not so easy not every job is 24 hrs rota and not everyone has good quality reliable affordable childcare and everyone wanted the benefits bill cut and single mothers etc into work so somethin had to give!

from what iv found most employers know nothin about flexible working and its the usual suspects that will grumble about someone asking for it x

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By *ickmealloverWoman over a year ago

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"God I hope Harman doesn't

She will put men off women for ever.

Empoyers are already put off employing women of childbearing age beacause of the huge ammount of time they can take off work for their lifestyle choice

well they wanted everyone workin and to have the balance between work and family life!

you know your damned if you do your damned if you dont!

oh and men also have that right to ask for flexible working its just that not many do it

I dont think its your employers job to be flexible if you choose to have children

I worked around my children

So I know it can be done

I mean NOT having children has never been so easy so it you cant do both then maybe folk shouldn't

Thats just my opinion mind

I hear so much from people with no kids and the resentment is huge

They have to cover for parents all the time

sorry but bollocks!

from what iv found most employers know nothin about flexible working and its the usual suspects that will grumble about someone asking for it x"

I know a lot of people that are constantly asked to work when a mum calls in with a sick child

and they are heartily sick of it

Employers are too

I know its not easy but some people need to think about having children before they have them

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"God I hope Harman doesn't

She will put men off women for ever.

Empoyers are already put off employing women of childbearing age beacause of the huge ammount of time they can take off work for their lifestyle choice

well they wanted everyone workin and to have the balance between work and family life!

you know your damned if you do your damned if you dont!

oh and men also have that right to ask for flexible working its just that not many do it

I dont think its your employers job to be flexible if you choose to have children

I worked around my children

So I know it can be done

I mean NOT having children has never been so easy so it you cant do both then maybe folk shouldn't

Thats just my opinion mind

I hear so much from people with no kids and the resentment is huge

They have to cover for parents all the time

sorry but bollocks!

from what iv found most employers know nothin about flexible working and its the usual suspects that will grumble about someone asking for it x

I know a lot of people that are constantly asked to work when a mum calls in with a sick child

and they are heartily sick of it

Employers are too

I know its not easy but some people need to think about having children before they have them"

come on and we will put in for the pm's job!!

i get phoned from my old work when someone off ill with a hangover or the latest one had to take the dog to the vet or a hundred and one other excuses!

bearing in mind home responsibilities arent just children some are looking after elderly parents etc!

for a so called family friendly country we still have a lot of work to do xx

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By *ickmealloverWoman over a year ago

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Alan johnson it is then

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

he does seem a good choice! i need to actually have a look at the other possibilities!!

any bookies runnin odds?? xx

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By *atisfy janeWoman over a year ago

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"had a look at alan johnston on wiki, never most reliable source but was quick and i liked what i seen!!

good union man marxist thinker only bit im no struck on was his stance in the war but cant please everyone i suppose!! x"

He was against the Iraq War enquiry for what will turn out to be good reason, the Tories set a precedant with their push for an inquiry. In future governments will avoid military action for fears of enquiries, some things are best left to governments to decide upon.

That is why we elect them after all, can you imagine if Thatcher had been forced into an enquiry about why she forced the Falklands conflict?

So I can fully appreciate Johnsons stance on the enquiry.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"had a look at alan johnston on wiki, never most reliable source but was quick and i liked what i seen!!

good union man marxist thinker only bit im no struck on was his stance in the war but cant please everyone i suppose!! x

That is why we elect them after all, can you imagine if Thatcher had been forced into an enquiry about why she forced the Falklands conflict?

So I can fully appreciate Johnsons stance on the enquiry."

i imagine she would have whacked them all with her handbag and told them to shut it!!! xx

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Alan johnson it is then

Agreed on him being the best man for the job!

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Alan johnson it is then

Don't make any difference who runs Labour now, he'll be doing it from the opposition benches.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Alan johnson it is then

Don't make any difference who runs Labour now, he'll be doing it from the opposition benches.

has the deal been sealed with lib dem and tory then?? iv not seen news im havin a clothin issue and been online tryin to find a bloody dress!! xx

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Alan johnson it is then

Don't make any difference who runs Labour now, he'll be doing it from the opposition benches.

Do you really believe that? Most of the liberal MP's would rather form a coalition with labour as they have more in common with them.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Alan johnson it is then

Don't make any difference who runs Labour now, he'll be doing it from the opposition benches.

Do you really believe that? Most of the liberal MP's would rather form a coalition with labour as they have more in common with them.

Senior labour sources are being quoted on news channels now as saying that a deal with libdems would be a bad thing and that they (the wider labour party) are opposed to PR

Libdem/conservatives now saying they are close to a deal......but will wait and see before getting worked up about it all

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

My god thatcher again !The Falklands war was totaly justified ! the argentines attacked ,British troops were fired on !

your only defence of labour is Thatcher ! how many years ago was she in power !

A Tory great , A great Brit !

What about the sell off's the miners Blah Blah

Gordy Blair and Labour let utillities be sold abroad , sold gold reserves for peanuts to buy the euro , lead us into 2 ujustified wars ,where our young are still being killed and maimed,They also lied about a referendum on europe !

Yet you still go on about Thatcher moronic!!!!!

A good policy all future immigrants into Britain to be settled in Torbay

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Alan johnson it is then

Don't make any difference who runs Labour now, he'll be doing it from the opposition benches.

Do you really believe that? Most of the liberal MP's would rather form a coalition with labour as they have more in common with them.

Senior labour sources are being quoted on news channels now as saying that a deal with libdems would be a bad thing and that they (the wider labour party) are opposed to PR

Libdem/conservatives now saying they are close to a deal......but will wait and see before getting worked up about it all"

Both labour and the Cons are trying not to look too desperate. Neither want PR as neither would be likely to have total control again. Its been more than 50 years since any party had 50% of the public vote for them.

It might even be a minority government or another election if nothing is agreed.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

once your past throwing the knifes i think she actually meant that if there had been an inquiry into the faulklands maggie would have told them where to shove it so actually somethin nice been said about her??

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By *atisfy janeWoman over a year ago

Torquay

"Alan johnson it is then

Don't make any difference who runs Labour now, he'll be doing it from the opposition benches.

Could be the best option for Labour, let the Lib Dems and the Tories form a coalition, then watch from the opposition benches as the house of cards comes crashing down....

When the ordinary people of this country start to suffer the effects of the inevitable cuts, interest rates start creeping up, people's homes are put at risk as unemployment spirals out of control.....while all the time the Tories are feathering the nests of the well heeled with a million pound threshold on inheritance tax, that all important hunting with dogs vote...

Then when we have people protesting on the streets just sweep in and pick up the pieces.

Sounds like the perfect time for a Blair style landslide....

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

So sexy lol

Politics and swinging

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

its someone elses turn!!

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By *atisfy janeWoman over a year ago

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"My god thatcher again !The Falklands war was totaly justified ! the argentines attacked ,British troops were fired on !

your only defence of labour is Thatcher ! how many years ago was she in power !

A Tory great , A great Brit !

What about the sell off's the miners Blah Blah

Yet you still go on about Thatcher moronic!!!!!

A good policy all future immigrants into Britain to be settled in Torbay"

Anyone who served in the Falklands at the time will tell you the alternative version of the conflict, how Thatcher's government were pressed by the military high command to beef up the Falklands garrison months before the war.

There were very early calls for an additional 300-500 Royal Marines to be sent to the Falklands when American Intelligence Agencies warned the UK of impending Argentinian invasion.

In December 1981, four months before the conflict started General Galtieri took over in Argentina, it was at this point that Admiral Sir John Fieldhouse and Rear Admiral Sandy Woodward were pleading with Thatcher to send extra forces to the South Atlantic.

Thatcher was badly down in the polls so decided that a war would maybe save her skin at the ballot box.

If there had been an Iraqi War style enquiry at the time she would have been shown up for what she was.

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By *ushroom7Man over a year ago

Bradford

"Alan johnson it is then

Don't make any difference who runs Labour now, he'll be doing it from the opposition benches.

Could be the best option for Labour, let the Lib Dems and the Tories form a coalition, then watch from the opposition benches as the house of cards comes crashing down....

Then when we have people protesting on the streets just sweep in and pick up the pieces.

Sounds like the perfect time for a Blair style landslide....

But surely you see that the house of cards which you say will come crashing down was built because of Mr Blair's landslide? Oh so carefully ( not ) built over 13 year.

Obviously not.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

each one inherits the others mess and the poor sod that gettin this mess i dont think it will end well for them either! x

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"each one inherits the others mess and the poor sod that gettin this mess i dont think it will end well for them either! x"

Broon picked up Blairs mess. I actually feel sorry for Broon, he had a tough job.

I think its because he's Scottish and our neighbours over the wall never liked him for that.

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By *ushroom7Man over a year ago

Bradford

"each one inherits the others mess and the poor sod that gettin this mess i dont think it will end well for them either! x"

SO, the first honest politician that stands up and a) admits we are in a mess and b) addresses that mess

gets my vote, and i suspect millions of other

bring back honesty, decency, etc

oh and hanging

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

an honest politician???? u been at the sherry man??? xx

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"each one inherits the others mess and the poor sod that gettin this mess i dont think it will end well for them either! x

SO, the first honest politician that stands up and a) admits we are in a mess and b) addresses that mess

gets my vote, and i suspect millions of other

bring back honesty, decency, etc

oh and hanging"

Name an honest MP and i will name an honest crook.

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By *exeteraWoman over a year ago

Bridgend

Gordon has announced his resignation as Leader will take immediate effect. Harriet Harmen steps in to the breach.

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By *ushroom7Man over a year ago

Bradford

"Gordon has announced his resignation as Leader will take immediate effect. Harriet Harmen steps in to the breach. "

won't she be fucking chuffed

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"Gordon has announced his resignation as Leader will take immediate effect. Harriet Harmen steps in to the breach. "

So Harriet was PM for about 1/2 an hour then. I wonder if the history books will reflect that lol

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"My god thatcher again !The Falklands war was totaly justified ! the argentines attacked ,British troops were fired on !

your only defence of labour is Thatcher ! how many years ago was she in power !

A Tory great , A great Brit !

What about the sell off's the miners Blah Blah

Yet you still go on about Thatcher moronic!!!!!

A good policy all future immigrants into Britain to be settled in Torbay

There were very early calls for an additional 300-500 Royal Marines to be sent to the Falklands when American Intelligence Agencies warned the UK of impending Argentinian invasion.

Thatcher was badly down in the polls so decided that a war would maybe save her skin at the ballot box.

If there had been an Iraqi War style enquiry at the time she would have been shown up for what she was.

WOW I thought you would come back with the Belgrano Incident .

That is some conspiracy theory rates on a par with the U.S Goverment blowing up the twin towers!

Thatcher is better than I ever thought and you must really admire her if you think she was able to do that .

All the armed forces serving in the Falklands Knew this ? You have spoken to them all? Not very good at keeping secrets these Americans !

Tell me Where did you google this one I need to have a read an a good laugh