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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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Should they be made to clean up their Horse poo...?
Fed up dodging past it on footpaths and public right of ways and roads...
We Dog owners do..Well most of us...  |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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"Do they sell pooper scoopers big enough  "
Pretty sure if these Horsy types can afford a bloody big Range Rover and box to tow their nag about they can afford a bloody big pooper scooper or even some one to follow them around and scoop it up for them... |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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As a horse owner & rider here's my 2 pence worth. Probably classed the same as horse poop!!
It is illegal for us to dismount off our horse on a road so therefore we cant scoop the poop.
Horse poop is not harmful unlike dog poop.
A lot of horses would spook if their riders had to carry big shovels & bin bags on their backs, which would then be even more dangerous to everybody around. A ton of horse which is scared could easily kill people by accident.
Lastly they dont have horse poop bins like they do dogs & it's bloomin heavy so I would hate to have to carry it with me on a 3 hour ride!! |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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We have a stable near us,the horses and donkeys go down onto the beach.
Probably 250 yard or so,however they do have a couple of stable girls come out after them with a shovel and wheelbarrow. 
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By (user no longer on site) OP
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"As a horse owner & rider here's my 2 pence worth. Probably classed the same as horse poop!!
It is illegal for us to dismount off our horse on a road so therefore we cant scoop the poop.
Horse poop is not harmful unlike dog poop.
A lot of horses would spook if their riders had to carry big shovels & bin bags on their backs, which would then be even more dangerous to everybody around. A ton of horse which is scared could easily kill people by accident.
Lastly they dont have horse poop bins like they do dogs & it's bloomin heavy so I would hate to have to carry it with me on a 3 hour ride!! "
So it was your Horse poo I used to have to dodge around when walking my Dogs when I lived in Conwy...LOL...
Not harmful? Tread in Horse poo and skate into on comming traffic and tell me its not harmful... |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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Tthat's where Claims direct comes in handy!
We don't ride on pavements, well us resposible ones don't anyway. If you walk on the road then it's your own fault  I like to think that blind people wouldn't slip on it as they tend to walk on the pavements!
Yes probably was my horses poop you trod in lol |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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cant you get like big horsey nappy things??? think i seen the horse and carts with them??
i could say i dont need to lift my dogs droppings if she shits on the rd but i cant see that one standing up if i need to go to court for dog fouling??
next time my dog rolls in horse shit im takin her to the person responsible and they can bath her!!
not to mention if you drive over horse shit in the rd try gettin that off when you go to the car wash!!
its no different from dog fouling so it should be lifted somehow or disposed of somewhere a ditch or whatever! xx |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
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"cant you get like big horsey nappy things??? think i seen the horse and carts with them??
i could say i dont need to lift my dogs droppings if she shits on the rd but i cant see that one standing up if i need to go to court for dog fouling??
next time my dog rolls in horse shit im takin her to the person responsible and they can bath her!!
not to mention if you drive over horse shit in the rd try gettin that off when you go to the car wash!!
its no different from dog fouling so it should be lifted somehow or disposed of somewhere a ditch or whatever! xx"
Yes bet if their Horses rolled in Dog poo you wouldnt hear the end of it cos Daddy is probably on the local council and can get laws passed to have Dogs and their owners shot... |
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By (user no longer on site)
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The horse owbnrs should pick it up, dispose of it, or tie a bag to the horses arse and collect it ...
For some reason the horsey horsey set seem to think that they are a cut above and their horses can simply shit wherever they like and the poor downtrodden lower classes should be grateful of the fertiliser
Yeah right !
If my dog shites in the street, I, quite rightly, have to bag it and bin it.....
But horsey folks see to think that its fine for their ride to dump a massive pile of shit and not bother their lazy pompous arses to pick it up, leaving it for everyone to walk through, cyclists to ride through and dog owners to have their dogs roll in and eat the shit !!!! - a bit of sport for the peasents perhaps ?
Really pisses me off |
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By *ugby 123Couple
over a year ago
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"Should they be made to clean up their Horse poo...?
Fed up dodging past it on footpaths and public right of ways and roads...
We Dog owners do..Well most of us... "
It is pretty dangerous to get off a horse on a main road to pick up shit.........horses spook at anything, it could cause accidents galore.
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"The horse owbnrs should pick it up, dispose of it, or tie a bag to the horses arse and collect it ...
For some reason the horsey horsey set seem to think that they are a cut above and their horses can simply shit wherever they like and the poor downtrodden lower classes should be grateful of the fertiliser
Yeah right !
If my dog shites in the street, I, quite rightly, have to bag it and bin it.....
But horsey folks see to think that its fine for their ride to dump a massive pile of shit and not bother their lazy pompous arses to pick it up, leaving it for everyone to walk through, cyclists to ride through and dog owners to have their dogs roll in and eat the shit !!!! - a bit of sport for the peasents perhaps ?
Really pisses me off "
Unlike a dog a horse will shit while walking along, it doesn't squat like a dog or cock it's leg, it probably has little idea it is doing a shit.....
Quite how a horse rider is supposed to stop, get off the bloody thing and clean up horse shit totally evades me... |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Should they be made to clean up their Horse poo...?
Fed up dodging past it on footpaths and public right of ways and roads...
We Dog owners do..Well most of us...
It is pretty dangerous to get off a horse on a main road to pick up shit.........horses spook at anything, it could cause accidents galore.
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Then they shouldn't be on a main road in the first place  |
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Well blackpool has loads of horses on the front and no shit to be seen cos they all have horsey shit collection bags attached as blackppol council made a law about horse shit so the owners have sorted it
so it can be sorted if they want to
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By (user no longer on site)
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I have to work hard to be able to own my horse I certainly don't view people by looking down my nose at them. As is stated in the highway code, we cannot dismount on a road. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"The horse owbnrs should pick it up, dispose of it, or tie a bag to the horses arse and collect it ...
For some reason the horsey horsey set seem to think that they are a cut above and their horses can simply shit wherever they like and the poor downtrodden lower classes should be grateful of the fertiliser
Yeah right !
If my dog shites in the street, I, quite rightly, have to bag it and bin it.....
But horsey folks see to think that its fine for their ride to dump a massive pile of shit and not bother their lazy pompous arses to pick it up, leaving it for everyone to walk through, cyclists to ride through and dog owners to have their dogs roll in and eat the shit !!!! - a bit of sport for the peasents perhaps ?
Really pisses me off
Unlike a dog a horse will shit while walking along, it doesn't squat like a dog or cock it's leg, it probably has little idea it is doing a shit.....
Quite how a horse rider is supposed to stop, get off the bloody thing and clean up horse shit totally evades me..."
See the post below - keep the horses in the fields - were they belong. Times have moved on, we have the internal combustion engine nowadays, horse power is no longer needed |
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By *ugby 123Couple
over a year ago
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"Should they be made to clean up their Horse poo...?
Fed up dodging past it on footpaths and public right of ways and roads...
We Dog owners do..Well most of us...
It is pretty dangerous to get off a horse on a main road to pick up shit.........horses spook at anything, it could cause accidents galore.
Then they shouldn't be on a main road in the first place "
They have to do it sometimes to get to the bridal paths.
But if they are on the back of the horse and in control of it, then it shouldn't be a problem.......but trying to control a one ton horse by one hand while picking up shit with a shovel wouldn't be very safe. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"I have to work hard to be able to own my horse I certainly don't view people by looking down my nose at them. As is stated in the highway code, we cannot dismount on a road."
Then keeep off the bloody roads ..... |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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having worked with carthorses in the past yes it is possible to collect their poop.
a big sack attaches to their cart. what are we meant to attach it to if no cart? as for riding on a main road, where my horse is stables i have to ride part of a main road to get to the off road riding paths. i certainly dont like doing it but needs must |
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"I have to work hard to be able to own my horse I certainly don't view people by looking down my nose at them. As is stated in the highway code, we cannot dismount on a road.
Then keeep off the bloody roads ....."
Crikey - are you the same with bicycle riders as they should also be in a car? Or walkers because there really is no need to walk these days either! Z |
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"I have to work hard to be able to own my horse I certainly don't view people by looking down my nose at them. As is stated in the highway code, we cannot dismount on a road.
Then keeep off the bloody roads .....
Crikey - are you the same with bicycle riders as they should also be in a car? Or walkers because there really is no need to walk these days either! Z"
Cycle riders don't shite all over the roads.....
Not that I'm aware of anyway  |
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By *ugby 123Couple
over a year ago
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"having worked with carthorses in the past yes it is possible to collect their poop.
a big sack attaches to their cart. what are we meant to attach it to if no cart? as for riding on a main road, where my horse is stables i have to ride part of a main road to get to the off road riding paths. i certainly dont like doing it but needs must"
Tell me about it, My heart is in my mouth everytime my daughter tries to get on the riding paths.........there are some inconsiderate drivers about who don't slow down while overtaking. |
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By *ugby 123Couple
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"I have to work hard to be able to own my horse I certainly don't view people by looking down my nose at them. As is stated in the highway code, we cannot dismount on a road.
Then keeep off the bloody roads .....
Crikey - are you the same with bicycle riders as they should also be in a car? Or walkers because there really is no need to walk these days either! Z
Cycle riders don't shite all over the roads.....
Not that I'm aware of anyway "
I suppose thats debatable.....what if they have near been run off the road by a big truck, there might be some mess then |
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"I have to work hard to be able to own my horse I certainly don't view people by looking down my nose at them. As is stated in the highway code, we cannot dismount on a road.
Then keeep off the bloody roads .....
Crikey - are you the same with bicycle riders as they should also be in a car? Or walkers because there really is no need to walk these days either! Z
Cycle riders don't shite all over the roads.....
Not that I'm aware of anyway "
lol - no but you made a comment about there being no need to ride a horse with the invention of the internal combustion engine! Z |
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"I think if you choose to live in the countryside then you have to put up with the way that the countryside works, why should the countryside change to suit the people that move into it?
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Thank the Lord we've always lived in a rural setting, for 40+ years but are not so blinkered to understanf that lfe moves on and the days of the horse are restrivetd to Gipsys and Country shows . |
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"I think if you choose to live in the countryside then you have to put up with the way that the countryside works, why should the countryside change to suit the people that move into it?
Thank the Lord we've always lived in a rural setting, for 40+ years but are not so blinkered to understanf that lfe moves on and the days of the horse are restrivetd to Gipsys and Country shows ."
You can't honestly mean that? Z |
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By *ugby 123Couple
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"I think if you choose to live in the countryside then you have to put up with the way that the countryside works, why should the countryside change to suit the people that move into it?
Thank the Lord we've always lived in a rural setting, for 40+ years but are not so blinkered to understanf that lfe moves on and the days of the horse are restrivetd to Gipsys and Country shows ."
And a hobby for lots of people. |
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hell shit car drivers dont even want other car drivers on the road so what chance have horse, bike and walkers have
horses in city's noooooo but in the country then hell yes and the shite is all just part of it
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I've never ridden a horse and have no wish to do so, but I am sensible enough to know they are part and parcel of living where I do.
It's like the people who choose to live in the contryside yet moan about muck spreading on the fields and the smells that result.... |
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By *ugby 123Couple
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"I've never ridden a horse and have no wish to do so, but I am sensible enough to know they are part and parcel of living where I do.
It's like the people who choose to live in the contryside yet moan about muck spreading on the fields and the smells that result...."
Or the people who bought flats on top of the clubs and bars in Matthew Street in Liverpool and then complained about the noise  |
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"You have lived in the countryside for 40 years but don't understand the importance of horses to the rural community?
Flabergasted....."
Not important whatsover - a status symbol, nothing more, nothing less ! At one time horse were needed to work the farm - not now, technology has taken over, we have electricity, diesel engines maybe you've heard of them ? Horses are now nothing more than a status symbol and have no worth in rural Northumberland ....
If you ae part of the Percy Hunt, the horse is king, if not ........... |
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I ride in a small country area, I don't ride along main roads unless it's to get to a bridal path. I only do that when I have to or I'd be grey by now. I wear hi vis jacket an make sure my horse wears hi vis too. My ex has had more accidents on his motorbike than I have on my horse. I like to think I'm considerate to drivers and pedestrians when I'm out but wish they could often be polite and considerate to me. I love my hobby and wouldn't change it for anything else. If a bit of horse poop irratates then apologies but fook it cause I love riding!
Now where's the catalogue number for the deluxe rabbit... |
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"I think if you choose to live in the countryside then you have to put up with the way that the countryside works, why should the countryside change to suit the people that move into it?
Thank the Lord we've always lived in a rural setting, for 40+ years but are not so blinkered to understanf that lfe moves on and the days of the horse are restrivetd to Gipsys and Country shows .
And a hobby for lots of people."
And my dogs are my hobby, but if they go shitting all over the roads and paths, my pet becomes someone elses pest |
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"You have lived in the countryside for 40 years but don't understand the importance of horses to the rural community?
Flabergasted.....
Not important whatsover - a status symbol, nothing more, nothing less ! At one time horse were needed to work the farm - not now, technology has taken over, we have electricity, diesel engines maybe you've heard of them ? Horses are now nothing more than a status symbol and have no worth in rural Northumberland ....
If you ae part of the Percy Hunt, the horse is king, if not ..........."
Status symbol? Yeah - right - there are loads of people who ride out from stables on horses just for a few hours week because they want to ride a horse - not everyone riding owns the horse - touch of jealousy perhaps? My sister used to ride a friends horse and got terrible abuse from people as they thought she was a snob because she was on a horse! Z |
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By *ugby 123Couple
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"I think if you choose to live in the countryside then you have to put up with the way that the countryside works, why should the countryside change to suit the people that move into it?
Thank the Lord we've always lived in a rural setting, for 40+ years but are not so blinkered to understanf that lfe moves on and the days of the horse are restrivetd to Gipsys and Country shows .
And a hobby for lots of people.
And my dogs are my hobby, but if they go shitting all over the roads and paths, my pet becomes someone elses pest "
It isn't against the law for you to tie your dogs up and pick up the poo......it is against the law for a horse owner to do it. |
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Would you more pissed off if I tied my horse up to pick up a bit of poop, some twatty driver drives past an scares my horse so it bolts off crashes into your car and lets say puts a leg through your window and seriously injuries you? or would you prefer a little poop on the wheel that can be washed off?? |
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"I think if you choose to live in the countryside then you have to put up with the way that the countryside works, why should the countryside change to suit the people that move into it?
Thank the Lord we've always lived in a rural setting, for 40+ years but are not so blinkered to understanf that lfe moves on and the days of the horse are restrivetd to Gipsys and Country shows .
And a hobby for lots of people.
And my dogs are my hobby, but if they go shitting all over the roads and paths, my pet becomes someone elses pest
It isn't against the law for you to tie your dogs up and pick up the poo......it is against the law for a horse owner to do it."
The OP asks if Horse owners should be made to pickup their horse shite ....
This isn't a question of a point of law, more a question of moral responbibility |
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By *ugby 123Couple
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"I think if you choose to live in the countryside then you have to put up with the way that the countryside works, why should the countryside change to suit the people that move into it?
Thank the Lord we've always lived in a rural setting, for 40+ years but are not so blinkered to understanf that lfe moves on and the days of the horse are restrivetd to Gipsys and Country shows .
And a hobby for lots of people.
And my dogs are my hobby, but if they go shitting all over the roads and paths, my pet becomes someone elses pest
It isn't against the law for you to tie your dogs up and pick up the poo......it is against the law for a horse owner to do it.
The OP asks if Horse owners should be made to pickup their horse shite ....
This isn't a question of a point of law, more a question of moral responbibility"
But if they are not allowed to get off the horse to do it, it can't be done....and even if they came back to pick it up after they had done what they were doing, it probably wouldn't be there by then anyway.
So I suppose answering why they can't pick it up is answering the question the OP asked |
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"cant you get like big horsey nappy things??? think i seen the horse and carts with them??
i could say i dont need to lift my dogs droppings if she shits on the rd but i cant see that one standing up if i need to go to court for dog fouling??
next time my dog rolls in horse shit im takin her to the person responsible and they can bath her!!
not to mention if you drive over horse shit in the rd try gettin that off when you go to the car wash!!
its no different from dog fouling so it should be lifted somehow or disposed of somewhere a ditch or whatever! xx"
In Rome the horses have bin bags tied to them... they do look awful though... |
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"I think if you choose to live in the countryside then you have to put up with the way that the countryside works, why should the countryside change to suit the people that move into it?
Thank the Lord we've always lived in a rural setting, for 40+ years but are not so blinkered to understanf that lfe moves on and the days of the horse are restrivetd to Gipsys and Country shows .
And a hobby for lots of people.
And my dogs are my hobby, but if they go shitting all over the roads and paths, my pet becomes someone elses pest
It isn't against the law for you to tie your dogs up and pick up the poo......it is against the law for a horse owner to do it.
The OP asks if Horse owners should be made to pickup their horse shite ....
This isn't a question of a point of law, more a question of moral responbibility
But if they are not allowed to get off the horse to do it, it can't be done....and even if they came back to pick it up after they had done what they were doing, it probably wouldn't be there by then anyway.
So I suppose answering why they can't pick it up is answering the question the OP asked "
So can you direct me in the direction of the rule which states that is against the law for a rider to dismount ? |
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We have a National Hunt trainer not far from us and they have horses on the roads most days of the week, it's not much of a problem for us, the only argument I have is that horses should be insured like any other motor vehicle.
As for the horse shit on the roads, it's a countryside hazard.....and a small one at that. |
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Personally I see it that if it's on a busy road and I go back afterwards to pick it up I could get hurt myself so it's staying where it is. If I have to go on a pavement due to large van or bus going past and my horse poops then I always do my best to go pick it up if it's outside someones house or on a pavement. I guess I'm lucky that we have lovely people living in the houses where I ride and most will pick it up themselves to use on their gardens. |
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"I think if you choose to live in the countryside then you have to put up with the way that the countryside works, why should the countryside change to suit the people that move into it?
Thank the Lord we've always lived in a rural setting, for 40+ years but are not so blinkered to understanf that lfe moves on and the days of the horse are restrivetd to Gipsys and Country shows .
And a hobby for lots of people.
And my dogs are my hobby, but if they go shitting all over the roads and paths, my pet becomes someone elses pest
It isn't against the law for you to tie your dogs up and pick up the poo......it is against the law for a horse owner to do it.
The OP asks if Horse owners should be made to pickup their horse shite ....
This isn't a question of a point of law, more a question of moral responbibility
But if they are not allowed to get off the horse to do it, it can't be done....and even if they came back to pick it up after they had done what they were doing, it probably wouldn't be there by then anyway.
So I suppose answering why they can't pick it up is answering the question the OP asked
So can you direct me in the direction of the rule which states that is against the law for a rider to dismount ?"
Even if there isn't a 'rule' it's quite impractical and potentially dangerous to dismount to clear up the poo - I can't see a problem with the poo myself! Z |
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I love to watch women riding horses,the fluid back and forth movement of their hips,as it walks,the rhythmical up and down of their arses,encased in tight jodhpurs,as it trots mmmmmmm!
Noticed though that around 99% of the riders I see are women........hmmm,wonder if there's any truth in that _umour.......... R
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"I think if you choose to live in the countryside then you have to put up with the way that the countryside works, why should the countryside change to suit the people that move into it?
Thank the Lord we've always lived in a rural setting, for 40+ years but are not so blinkered to understanf that lfe moves on and the days of the horse are restrivetd to Gipsys and Country shows .
And a hobby for lots of people.
And my dogs are my hobby, but if they go shitting all over the roads and paths, my pet becomes someone elses pest
It isn't against the law for you to tie your dogs up and pick up the poo......it is against the law for a horse owner to do it.
The OP asks if Horse owners should be made to pickup their horse shite ....
This isn't a question of a point of law, more a question of moral responbibility
But if they are not allowed to get off the horse to do it, it can't be done....and even if they came back to pick it up after they had done what they were doing, it probably wouldn't be there by then anyway.
So I suppose answering why they can't pick it up is answering the question the OP asked
So can you direct me in the direction of the rule which states that is against the law for a rider to dismount ?
Even if there isn't a 'rule' it's quite impractical and potentially dangerous to dismount to clear up the poo - I can't see a problem with the poo myself! Z"
Try riding through it on a bike, or having your dogs roll in it ! |
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"I think if you choose to live in the countryside then you have to put up with the way that the countryside works, why should the countryside change to suit the people that move into it?
Thank the Lord we've always lived in a rural setting, for 40+ years but are not so blinkered to understanf that lfe moves on and the days of the horse are restrivetd to Gipsys and Country shows .
And a hobby for lots of people.
And my dogs are my hobby, but if they go shitting all over the roads and paths, my pet becomes someone elses pest
It isn't against the law for you to tie your dogs up and pick up the poo......it is against the law for a horse owner to do it.
The OP asks if Horse owners should be made to pickup their horse shite ....
This isn't a question of a point of law, more a question of moral responbibility
But if they are not allowed to get off the horse to do it, it can't be done....and even if they came back to pick it up after they had done what they were doing, it probably wouldn't be there by then anyway.
So I suppose answering why they can't pick it up is answering the question the OP asked
So can you direct me in the direction of the rule which states that is against the law for a rider to dismount ?"
I didn't know there was one until a rider said up there, but I am assuming she is right, as it seems pretty sensible to me. |
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"We have a National Hunt trainer not far from us and they have horses on the roads most days of the week, it's not much of a problem for us, the only argument I have is that horses should be insured like any other motor vehicle.
As for the horse shit on the roads, it's a countryside hazard.....and a small one at that."
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"I think if you choose to live in the countryside then you have to put up with the way that the countryside works, why should the countryside change to suit the people that move into it?
Thank the Lord we've always lived in a rural setting, for 40+ years but are not so blinkered to understanf that lfe moves on and the days of the horse are restrivetd to Gipsys and Country shows .
And a hobby for lots of people.
And my dogs are my hobby, but if they go shitting all over the roads and paths, my pet becomes someone elses pest
It isn't against the law for you to tie your dogs up and pick up the poo......it is against the law for a horse owner to do it.
The OP asks if Horse owners should be made to pickup their horse shite ....
This isn't a question of a point of law, more a question of moral responbibility
But if they are not allowed to get off the horse to do it, it can't be done....and even if they came back to pick it up after they had done what they were doing, it probably wouldn't be there by then anyway.
So I suppose answering why they can't pick it up is answering the question the OP asked
So can you direct me in the direction of the rule which states that is against the law for a rider to dismount ?
Even if there isn't a 'rule' it's quite impractical and potentially dangerous to dismount to clear up the poo - I can't see a problem with the poo myself! Z
Try riding through it on a bike, or having your dogs roll in it !"
Yes done it and they have! My life didn't come to an abrupt halt! Z |
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Just a couple of points
If you have an animal, you should be responsible for all aspects of looking after it! If when in a town that means picking up the poop, then so be it! If you are not allowed to get off the horse to collect it, then you should have someone with you (on a bike?) to do it for you. It is not for others to clean up after you!
Whilst on the subject, we live on the edge of a town and regularly see children as young as eight on horses, on the road! If, as someone pointed out that they can kill someone in an accident, why are people under say 16 allowed to ride on public roads? It is not like a bike in as much as horses have a mind of their own and can be very willful!
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"We have a National Hunt trainer not far from us and they have horses on the roads most days of the week, it's not much of a problem for us, the only argument I have is that horses should be insured like any other motor vehicle.
As for the horse shit on the roads, it's a countryside hazard.....and a small one at that.
The rider and horse normally has insurance."
Not insurance that covers damage to a motor vehicle, my neighbour had one sit on the bonnet of his MX5... |
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"I think if you choose to live in the countryside then you have to put up with the way that the countryside works, why should the countryside change to suit the people that move into it?
Thank the Lord we've always lived in a rural setting, for 40+ years but are not so blinkered to understanf that lfe moves on and the days of the horse are restrivetd to Gipsys and Country shows .
And a hobby for lots of people.
And my dogs are my hobby, but if they go shitting all over the roads and paths, my pet becomes someone elses pest
It isn't against the law for you to tie your dogs up and pick up the poo......it is against the law for a horse owner to do it.
The OP asks if Horse owners should be made to pickup their horse shite ....
This isn't a question of a point of law, more a question of moral responbibility
But if they are not allowed to get off the horse to do it, it can't be done....and even if they came back to pick it up after they had done what they were doing, it probably wouldn't be there by then anyway.
So I suppose answering why they can't pick it up is answering the question the OP asked
So can you direct me in the direction of the rule which states that is against the law for a rider to dismount ?
Even if there isn't a 'rule' it's quite impractical and potentially dangerous to dismount to clear up the poo - I can't see a problem with the poo myself! Z
Try riding through it on a bike, or having your dogs roll in it !
Yes done it and they have! My life didn't come to an abrupt halt! Z"
Mine neither, but lets be fair it aint nice .... |
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"Just a couple of points
If you have an animal, you should be responsible for all aspects of looking after it! If when in a town that means picking up the poop, then so be it! If you are not allowed to get off the horse to collect it, then you should have someone with you (on a bike?) to do it for you. It is not for others to clean up after you!
Whilst on the subject, we live on the edge of a town and regularly see children as young as eight on horses, on the road! If, as someone pointed out that they can kill someone in an accident, why are people under say 16 allowed to ride on public roads? It is not like a bike in as much as horses have a mind of their own and can be very willful!
(From an ex-Horse Rider) "
So if there are a group of half a dozen horses we should expect to see half a dozen mountain bikes following them...with buckets on their handlebars?
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Don't your dogs also roll in cow poo in the fields - or horse poo in the fields or sheep poo in the fields? Can't really see the problem with horse poo on the road and I ride a motorbike and it's bloody lethal to ride through - but I avoid it! Z |
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"And if you're letting your dogs into the road to roll in horse poo then you need to get them under control! Z"
Who mentioned the road ? We have acres of land where pikeys seem to think its ok to thether their horses until they get impounded ... |
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"Just a couple of points
If you have an animal, you should be responsible for all aspects of looking after it! If when in a town that means picking up the poop, then so be it! If you are not allowed to get off the horse to collect it, then you should have someone with you (on a bike?) to do it for you. It is not for others to clean up after you!
Whilst on the subject, we live on the edge of a town and regularly see children as young as eight on horses, on the road! If, as someone pointed out that they can kill someone in an accident, why are people under say 16 allowed to ride on public roads? It is not like a bike in as much as horses have a mind of their own and can be very willful!
(From an ex-Horse Rider)
So if there are a group of half a dozen horses we should expect to see half a dozen mountain bikes following them...with buckets on their handlebars?
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Not my problem! I am just saying it is unreasonable to expect others to clean up after you if you ride a horse! BTW, if you can afford to ride a horse, you can afford to pay someone to clean it up! If you can't afford that, you shouldn't own a horse!
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By *umourCouple
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"The joys of living in the countryside...personally I love it!
Muck spreading and all....."
I liked that film on You've Been Framed with the farmer getting covered in muck.. That was hilarious! |
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"And if you're letting your dogs into the road to roll in horse poo then you need to get them under control! Z
Who mentioned the road ? We have acres of land where pikeys seem to think its ok to thether their horses until they get impounded ..."
Well - the OP was about poo on roads paths etc - you yourself kept mentioning roads etc so just keeping on topic! Whats the problem with pikeys horses? but i thought you said they were simply status symbols!? Confused? I am! Z |
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"We have a National Hunt trainer not far from us and they have horses on the roads most days of the week, it's not much of a problem for us, the only argument I have is that horses should be insured like any other motor vehicle.
As for the horse shit on the roads, it's a countryside hazard.....and a small one at that.
The rider and horse normally has insurance.
Not insurance that covers damage to a motor vehicle, my neighbour had one sit on the bonnet of his MX5... "
Yeah you can get public liability insurance jane |
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Got to agree with the post above.
Granted lots of folk folks ride a horse but some don't own it and maybe only ride it at the weekend, at the end of the day though, if you have a hobby eg a horse, enjoy it but also be prepared to clear up the crap that is left behind it .... that way everybody is happy
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"And if you're letting your dogs into the road to roll in horse poo then you need to get them under control! Z
Who mentioned the road ? We have acres of land where pikeys seem to think its ok to thether their horses until they get impounded ...
Well - the OP was about poo on roads paths etc - you yourself kept mentioning roads etc so just keeping on topic! Whats the problem with pikeys horses? but i thought you said they were simply status symbols!? Confused? I am! Z"
Bloody posh gypsies, bet they send their kids to private school too? |
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"We have a National Hunt trainer not far from us and they have horses on the roads most days of the week, it's not much of a problem for us, the only argument I have is that horses should be insured like any other motor vehicle.
As for the horse shit on the roads, it's a countryside hazard.....and a small one at that.
The rider and horse normally has insurance.
Not insurance that covers damage to a motor vehicle, my neighbour had one sit on the bonnet of his MX5...
Yeah you can get public liability insurance jane "
Trouble is it's not compulsory, which is the only problem I have with horses on the roads. If it was made compulsory like it is in many countries then it would be a great idea. |
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"And if you're letting your dogs into the road to roll in horse poo then you need to get them under control! Z
Who mentioned the road ? We have acres of land where pikeys seem to think its ok to thether their horses until they get impounded ...
Well - the OP was about poo on roads paths etc - you yourself kept mentioning roads etc so just keeping on topic! Whats the problem with pikeys horses? but i thought you said they were simply status symbols!? Confused? I am! Z"
Quite simple really - the pikeys tethered their horses on land which also had public rights of way running through them - needless to say their horses are no longer there |
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"We have a National Hunt trainer not far from us and they have horses on the roads most days of the week, it's not much of a problem for us, the only argument I have is that horses should be insured like any other motor vehicle.
As for the horse shit on the roads, it's a countryside hazard.....and a small one at that.
The rider and horse normally has insurance.
Not insurance that covers damage to a motor vehicle, my neighbour had one sit on the bonnet of his MX5...
Yeah you can get public liability insurance jane
Trouble is it's not compulsory, which is the only problem I have with horses on the roads. If it was made compulsory like it is in many countries then it would be a great idea."
Perosnally I think if they are going to be using the roads, even just to get to the riding paths, then it should be compulsory........we can't drive without it, so they shouldn't be on the road without it.
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"We have a National Hunt trainer not far from us and they have horses on the roads most days of the week, it's not much of a problem for us, the only argument I have is that horses should be insured like any other motor vehicle.
As for the horse shit on the roads, it's a countryside hazard.....and a small one at that.
The rider and horse normally has insurance.
Not insurance that covers damage to a motor vehicle, my neighbour had one sit on the bonnet of his MX5...
Yeah you can get public liability insurance jane
Trouble is it's not compulsory, which is the only problem I have with horses on the roads. If it was made compulsory like it is in many countries then it would be a great idea.
Perosnally I think if they are going to be using the roads, even just to get to the riding paths, then it should be compulsory........we can't drive without it, so they shouldn't be on the road without it.
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Oohhh, would love to hear from someone who, like me, grew up going to the local stables to muck out in order that the owner would let me ride his ponies for free, realises that dismounting (if not actually illegal then and as I used to do it in 70/80/90s when lucky enough to have my own horses, shout into the local shop what I wanted and they brought it to the door) is at least problematic. A dog is a dog, you walk beside them; a horse is a beast with different sensibilities and a very different diet! Horseshit smells sweet and dissolves quickly - if your dog rolled in foxshit I can understand you complaining - you ever smelled that? - but who's gonna ban the foxes?
Oh and do we lose virginity/get sexual thrill riding? Don't be silly, just find a friend when you get to know and trust each other! |
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"We have a National Hunt trainer not far from us and they have horses on the roads most days of the week, it's not much of a problem for us, the only argument I have is that horses should be insured like any other motor vehicle.
As for the horse shit on the roads, it's a countryside hazard.....and a small one at that.
The rider and horse normally has insurance.
Not insurance that covers damage to a motor vehicle, my neighbour had one sit on the bonnet of his MX5...
Yeah you can get public liability insurance jane
Trouble is it's not compulsory, which is the only problem I have with horses on the roads. If it was made compulsory like it is in many countries then it would be a great idea.
Perosnally I think if they are going to be using the roads, even just to get to the riding paths, then it should be compulsory........we can't drive without it, so they shouldn't be on the road without it.
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And farmers shouldnt be allowed to use red diesel as well when driving from farm to field |
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Totally agree insurance should be compulsary! But just veering slightly off track should cat owners be made to pick up their crap too? It's all over my garden an not nice when my nephew tries to play with it! But I just pop it in a bag in the bin. |
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"We have a National Hunt trainer not far from us and they have horses on the roads most days of the week, it's not much of a problem for us, the only argument I have is that horses should be insured like any other motor vehicle.
As for the horse shit on the roads, it's a countryside hazard.....and a small one at that.
The rider and horse normally has insurance.
Not insurance that covers damage to a motor vehicle, my neighbour had one sit on the bonnet of his MX5...
Yeah you can get public liability insurance jane
Trouble is it's not compulsory, which is the only problem I have with horses on the roads. If it was made compulsory like it is in many countries then it would be a great idea.
Perosnally I think if they are going to be using the roads, even just to get to the riding paths, then it should be compulsory........we can't drive without it, so they shouldn't be on the road without it.
And farmers shouldnt be allowed to use red diesel as well when driving from farm to field "
Then pray tell me, what are they meant to do when driving their tractor along a country lane to an outlying field...drain the diesel tank first and top it up with road fuel? |
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"We have a National Hunt trainer not far from us and they have horses on the roads most days of the week, it's not much of a problem for us, the only argument I have is that horses should be insured like any other motor vehicle.
As for the horse shit on the roads, it's a countryside hazard.....and a small one at that.
The rider and horse normally has insurance.
Not insurance that covers damage to a motor vehicle, my neighbour had one sit on the bonnet of his MX5...
Yeah you can get public liability insurance jane
Trouble is it's not compulsory, which is the only problem I have with horses on the roads. If it was made compulsory like it is in many countries then it would be a great idea.
Perosnally I think if they are going to be using the roads, even just to get to the riding paths, then it should be compulsory........we can't drive without it, so they shouldn't be on the road without it.
And farmers shouldnt be allowed to use red diesel as well when driving from farm to field
Then pray tell me, what are they meant to do when driving their tractor along a country lane to an outlying field...drain the diesel tank first and top it up with road fuel?"
Simple - Pay the same money as we all do, farmers, despite pleading hard done to, get more subsidies than we ever do |
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Farmers have a fuel subsidy as their expenses have a direct impact on the prices we pay in the shops.
Same as the Fishermen, they have subsidised fuel for exactly the same reason.
How can you argue against food prices being subsidised? |
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"Then don't eat it.....
I don't
Then what are you moaning about?
The smell of it. Turns my stomach sick, just like the smell of horsehit"
lol - when have you ever really smelt horse poo? They eat grass and hay so it doesn't realy smell at all! Z |
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"Then don't eat it.....
I don't
Then what are you moaning about?
The smell of it. Turns my stomach sick, just like the smell of horsehit"
Then don't smell it......
No one is forced to go around smelling chocolate on a daily basis |
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lol @ redhot
I think farmers are only allowed to drive a limited distance from their farm I think, and it could be only from one field to another ( although I sat behind one for bloody miles the other day and would he pull over in laybys? would he hell ! |
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"Farmers have it dead easy! To begrudge them travelling on the road in a tractor from 1 field to another on red deisel is just being petulant and a bit picky! Z"
Show me one that doesn't have his own house and a fairly new Range Rover or BMW ??
Yes the farm hands work their balls of, hats off to them ...... |
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Tenant farmers don't get so lucky, for every land owning farmer there are probably half a dozen tenant farmers.
The land owners drive the BMW and Mercedes jeeps, the tenants make do with beaten up old landrovers around this way. |
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"Farmers have it dead easy! To begrudge them travelling on the road in a tractor from 1 field to another on red deisel is just being petulant and a bit picky! Z
Show me one that doesn't have his own house and a fairly new Range Rover or BMW ??
Yes the farm hands work their balls of, hats off to them ......"
I know several farmers who do not own their own homes - they tend to be rented and they don't have new 4 x 4's - my dad had a farm when we were young - don't know where you get this idea from that all farmers are wealthy! Some must be but there are many who are not and it is a very hard life! Z |
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"Tenant farmers don't get so lucky, for every land owning farmer there are probably half a dozen tenant farmers.
The land owners drive the BMW and Mercedes jeeps, the tenants make do with beaten up old landrovers around this way."
Yeah, thats the one they WANT you to see !! |
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Lol Ruggers, that's cos he's living on subsidies paid for by you and me and he doesn't have to rush around to get the job done
Our local farers tend to do that shit at 08:30 in the morning when I'm trying to get to my 1st job of the day - usually a hedge mowing machine or a tractor and trailor, or in the summer a combine harvester |
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"Lol Ruggers, that's cos he's living on subsidies paid for by you and me and he doesn't have to rush around to get the job done
Our local farers tend to do that shit at 08:30 in the morning when I'm trying to get to my 1st job of the day - usually a hedge mowing machine or a tractor and trailor, or in the summer a combine harvester "
to be fair, do they go very fast? lol
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"Farmers have it dead easy! To begrudge them travelling on the road in a tractor from 1 field to another on red deisel is just being petulant and a bit picky! Z
Show me one that doesn't have his own house and a fairly new Range Rover or BMW ??
Yes the farm hands work their balls of, hats off to them ......
I know several farmers who do not own their own homes - they tend to be rented and they don't have new 4 x 4's - my dad had a farm when we were young - don't know where you get this idea from that all farmers are wealthy! Some must be but there are many who are not and it is a very hard life! Z"
I get the idea from experience of the local farmers in this area - yeah few of them are struggling and in fact have sold up, but the ones that are still in business, well one has his own light aircraft, and he pops off to France whenever the fancy takes him so life isn't so bad for him, the other actually gets paid to leave his fields baron and he reckons he's making more money doing that than he would if he planted the bloody things with wheat !!!!!
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It's the subsidies that keep food prices down, if they didn't you would be on here moaning about high food prices.
When Poland joined the EU half their farmers left the country to take up labouring jobs in Germany and other parts of the EU...it almost crippled food production in Poland in just a few months, that is why pork prices almost doubled in the UK as imports from Poland almost dried up.
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"We have a National Hunt trainer not far from us and they have horses on the roads most days of the week, it's not much of a problem for us, the only argument I have is that horses should be insured like any other motor vehicle.
As for the horse shit on the roads, it's a countryside hazard.....and a small one at that.
The rider and horse normally has insurance.
Not insurance that covers damage to a motor vehicle, my neighbour had one sit on the bonnet of his MX5...
Yeah you can get public liability insurance jane
Trouble is it's not compulsory, which is the only problem I have with horses on the roads. If it was made compulsory like it is in many countries then it would be a great idea.
Perosnally I think if they are going to be using the roads, even just to get to the riding paths, then it should be compulsory........we can't drive without it, so they shouldn't be on the road without it.
And farmers shouldnt be allowed to use red diesel as well when driving from farm to field
Then pray tell me, what are they meant to do when driving their tractor along a country lane to an outlying field...drain the diesel tank first and top it up with road fuel?
Simple - Pay the same money as we all do, farmers, despite pleading hard done to, get more subsidies than we ever do"
Farmers get badmouthed, known them all my life and never known a dishonest or lazy one! Show me another profession who'll get up at 5am Every Day! Inc Christmas! Never! Not Ever! go on on holiday, realise that the only way to get a good yield is to treat your animals well!
And as it happens, horses were transport before your nice shiny car, they matter in a way your - my! - shiney car never will! Had this towny twat who recognised me and my horse, decided to give me a toot on his horn - Red (horse) freaked, kicked his lights in! Cost hundreds in vet's and farrier's bills and that was over 20 years ago!
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"Farmers have it dead easy! To begrudge them travelling on the road in a tractor from 1 field to another on red deisel is just being petulant and a bit picky! Z
Show me one that doesn't have his own house and a fairly new Range Rover or BMW ??
Yes the farm hands work their balls of, hats off to them ......
I know several farmers who do not own their own homes - they tend to be rented and they don't have new 4 x 4's - my dad had a farm when we were young - don't know where you get this idea from that all farmers are wealthy! Some must be but there are many who are not and it is a very hard life! Z
I get the idea from experience of the local farmers in this area - yeah few of them are struggling and in fact have sold up, but the ones that are still in business, well one has his own light aircraft, and he pops off to France whenever the fancy takes him so life isn't so bad for him, the other actually gets paid to leave his fields baron and he reckons he's making more money doing that than he would if he planted the bloody things with wheat !!!!!
FFS !""
That's setaside and hugely important as if you overwork land it will become barren unless you put lots of chemical fertilisers on it, also cross pollenation cannot occur if it's field upon field of similar crops!
Jeez, just seen that a volcano or 2 fooks flying, we are so close to relying on imported crops/meat! Get a grip, have a look and thank our farmers!  |
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hi folks as a ex horse rider if i was out on any of my horses i would make sure the shit landed in the area were people did not walk on get off and welly it over the hedge.but if my horse shit nr house the peolpe wud ran out and shovel it up and put it on there roses and boy my horse made good flowers he he,also raising trot on a horse is like ridin a good guy, grip with yor knees. and hold on |
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love the sound of horses clp clopping along ,they were here hundreds of year before cars on the roads which is still known as the horse road .
The thing about dog crap is it has the potential to spread disease as its sometimes hard to see ,horse crap is massive and if you cant see it ,thats perhaps a worry ...as its also in the road it washes away quicker ..lets not go p.c or turn it into a class issue eh ... |
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being a country dweller horses are part and parcel of life and being off a pikey family im used to horses and country ways but a wee bit consideration goes a long long way!
we get horses goin round the scheme non pikeys and non poshers and the local kids mine included will go behind the horses baggin the crap then sell it to the local gardeners it works out good for all but the ones that dont lift it i could joyfully roll them in what their horse drops its not fair when someones mutt rolls through it and it does smell!!
as i said before if my dog shits i lift it as i dont fancy a fine or court appearance and as my dog is a yorkie its not exactly great amounts but its common courtesy!! xx |
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as i said before if my dog shits i lift it as i dont fancy a fine or court appearance and as my dog is a yorkie its not exactly great amounts but its common courtesy!! xx"
Agree with you there, especially when near schools and playgrounds - I love dogs but think there is an onus on us to clear up after them as I would clear up mess my kids made when they were younger. |
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