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By *onkeydicksparties OP Man over a year ago

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Where I live we have a block of 8 houses which are housing association these are all to house one parent family's . they get free parking where I have to pay to park my car. They are all single females most have newish cars they get their rent paid and free council tax. One of them I saw the other day with six bags of shopping from waitrose even I can't afford to shop in john lewis group. How can they afford that on benefits.

Are they paid too much.

What is your views on this I don't have any thing against them but looks like they get loads on money.

No men in sight and some are pregnant haviing more babies. I guess the more kids you have the more money you get.

What's every ones view on this.

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By *isscheekychopsWoman over a year ago

The land of grey peas and bacon

Firstly how do you know she is on benefits? Social housing is available to working families...have you done a survey with all the tenants regarding their income and what type of income they are on?

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Have no view on it, dont know the story or the persons circumstances, it's all guesswork on your part.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Your about to get your ass chewed off op,, unfortunate as it's probably a genuine question

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Budgeting im guessing.

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By *onkeydicksparties OP Man over a year ago

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"Firstly how do you know she is on benefits? Social housing is available to working families...have you done a survey with all the tenants regarding their income and what type of income they are on? "

Because she has told every one in the local garage she is on benefits she has 4 kids lol

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Btw i use my marks n sparks carrier bags when i do my shopping in lidl.. haha

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By *iverpool LoverMan over a year ago

liverpool

Unless you know the persons actual circumstances and financial situation its probably best not to just assume.

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By *onkeydicksparties OP Man over a year ago

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"Budgeting im guessing."
fair enough

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By *isscheekychopsWoman over a year ago

The land of grey peas and bacon

"Firstly how do you know she is on benefits? Social housing is available to working families...have you done a survey with all the tenants regarding their income and what type of income they are on?

Because she has told every one in the local garage she is on benefits she has 4 kids lol "

She could be working and get child tax credit and working tax credit which is both classed as a benefit or she could of been bull shitting everyone in the garage...if she is on benefits it will be capped

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

you don't read The Daily Mail do you ?

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

I'm a single mum, have a new car because my daughter is severely disabled.. I work and I know many people that use posh bags just so people think that they are shopping somewhere else...

And having done a spat on benefits no you don't get a lot of money x and you dont get everything paid either. Not even on income support

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

the thing is they are so used to getting what they want they think its normal and what they are entitled to, they often complain they are hard done by.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Free council Tax?

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Kill the poor. It's extreme but hey it'd be effective.

And if you think that's too extreme maybe tell me the level of vilification that is acceptable before it offends?

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By *ouple in LancashireCouple over a year ago

in Lancashire

what's every ones view on this."

that its probably based on gossip, hearsay and maybe a lack of understanding and empathy of other folks who may be going through a shit time at this point in their life..

oh and 'the I don't have anything against them' doesn't come across as that from the thread..

far from it..

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

What is your views on this I don't have any thing against them but looks like they get loads on money.

Really ? Hints at jealousy to me

Him

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By *ce WingerMan over a year ago

P.O. Box DE1 0NQ

Maybe, she has tracked down her son's father and he is willing to stump up a substantial amount of cash each month to keep them in the lap of luxury that you describe

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By *edangel_2013Woman over a year ago

southend

"Kill the poor. It's extreme but hey it'd be effective.

And if you think that's too extreme maybe tell me the level of vilification that is acceptable before it offends?"

Alternatively we could eat the rich, but I don't think there will be enough meat to go around.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Vast majority of rent paid for, oh and my ex has the most expensive sky package, but she struggles on benefits !! Tho she works she only manages 16hrs as she can claim more money,, but what gets me is she was working more hours but job center told her it would be beneficial to cut back,, what's that about??

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Where I live we have a block of 8 houses which are housing association these are all to house one parent family's . they get free parking where I have to pay to park my car. They are all single females most have newish cars they get their rent paid and free council tax. One of them I saw the other day with six bags of shopping from waitrose even I can't afford to shop in john lewis group. How can they afford that on benefits.

Are they paid too much.

What is your views on this I don't have any thing against them but looks like they get loads on money.

No men in sight and some are pregnant haviing more babies. I guess the more kids you have the more money you get.

What's every ones view on this."

Have you set up a profile simply to wind people up mate? Just been reading your previous threads

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Alternatively we could eat the rich, but I don't think there will be enough meat to go around. "

Especially those that shop at waitrose and celebrities. .gotta assume they taste better.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Depends what you call loads of money to live on?

£150

70 for me, 60 child tax, 20 child ben

Water rates, gas, elec, food, tv lisence, internet/phone, car insurance, houehold insurance..

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By *edangel_2013Woman over a year ago

southend

Have you set up a profile simply to wind people up mate? Just been reading your previous threads"

No, but what is it they say, "no such thing as bad publicity"?

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Are they paid too much.

What is your views on this I don't have any thing against them but looks like they get loads on money.

No men in sight and some are pregnant haviing more babies. I guess the more kids you have the more money you get.

What's every ones view on this."

I would say there is a lot of assumption and no facts and although many people live on assumptions its not a good way to live your life.

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By *ouple in LancashireCouple over a year ago

in Lancashire

"the thing is they are so used to getting what they want they think its normal and what they are entitled to, they often complain they are hard done by. "

'they' could well be the mischievous fiction of some person wanting to start a row on a public forum..

'they' could be totally not as portrayed..

but hey, why let that stop folks jumping on the vilification band wagon eh..

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

One of those fannys, can't get attention, so start on single mothers.

Get your facts right on their income, and most don't ask to be a single mother.

Her

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By *ot monkey71Couple over a year ago

middlesbrough

I think people on benefits are given a hard time but it sells papers and has good ratings on tv but above all its a great distraction while the powers that be keep f-cking us over.

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By *iverpool LoverMan over a year ago

liverpool

"I think people on benefits are given a hard time but it sells papers and has good ratings on tv but above all its a great distraction while the powers that be keep f-cking us over."

exactly

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By *ce WingerMan over a year ago

P.O. Box DE1 0NQ

"Kill the poor."

Eat the rich

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Depends what you call loads of money to live on?

£150

70 for me, 60 child tax, 20 child ben

Water rates, gas, elec, food, tv lisence, internet/phone, car insurance, houehold insurance.. "

Thats per week.. leaves next to jack shit btw

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"I think people on benefits are given a hard time but it sells papers and has good ratings on tv but above all its a great distraction while the powers that be keep f-cking us over."

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"the thing is they are so used to getting what they want they think its normal and what they are entitled to, they often complain they are hard done by. "

I've been a single mum on benefits and I can tell you it's soul destroying, trying to budget often going without meals myself so kids could eat, unless you have been in that situation you really don't have a clue what you are talking about

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

My question would not be to those who obtain benefits, rather to those who make the rules which donates state capital.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"I think people on benefits are given a hard time but it sells papers and has good ratings on tv but above all its a great distraction while the powers that be keep f-cking us over."

It's interesting to compare how much in benefits is paid out erroneously compared to how much is claimed fraudulantly. Even more interesting how many people are employed to combat benefit fraud compared to those employed to detect tax evasion.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"I think people on benefits are given a hard time but it sells papers and has good ratings on tv but above all its a great distraction while the powers that be keep f-cking us over."

There is much in what you say and it stems from some people who like to degrade people (essentially bully's) take great delight in earmarking a less confident group of people they can victimise with little or no comeback.

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By *yrdwomanWoman over a year ago

Putting the 'cum' in Eboracum

Now I know what the main topic of conversation is at a certain club in Salisbury I'll probably not be attending any time soon. Sounds very dull.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"One of those fannys, can't get attention, so start on single mothers.

Get your facts right on their income, and most don't ask to be a single mother.

Her"

That's true, I didn't ask to be a single mum, was married had a good life with ex husband and then he left...

A lot of people think all single mums get pregnant for the benefits and council houses that is not always the case x

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Its certainly not at all easy. So no i do not feel we get too much

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"One of those fannys, can't get attention, so start on single mothers.

Get your facts right on their income, and most don't ask to be a single mother.

Her

That's true, I didn't ask to be a single mum, was married had a good life with ex husband and then he left...pisses me off to be honest, those that know nothing, judging

A lot of people think all single mums get pregnant for the benefits and council houses that is not always the case x"

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Now I know what the main topic of conversation is at a certain club in Salisbury I'll probably not be attending any time soon. Sounds very dull."

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Sorry but the people you are talking about i dont know so cant judge them and wouldnt in my job i meet people from all walks in life and treat them all the same every one has reasons for there own situation so unless you really know there situation best not judge them

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Kill the poor. It's extreme but hey it'd be effective.

And if you think that's too extreme maybe tell me the level of vilification that is acceptable before it offends?"

Ah ,,, The Dead Kennedys .... Memories ....

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Now I know what the main topic of conversation is at a certain club in Salisbury I'll probably not be attending any time soon. Sounds very dull."

People don't go for the conversation....

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

I want to go to a donkeydicks party..sounds fucking awesome.

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By *B9 QueenWoman over a year ago

Over the rainbow, under the bridge

"One of those fannys, can't get attention, so start on single mothers.

Get your facts right on their income, and most don't ask to be a single mother.

Her

That's true, I didn't ask to be a single mum, was married had a good life with ex husband and then he left...

A lot of people think all single mums get pregnant for the benefits and council houses that is not always the case x"

I did! It was great living in poverty in Homeless Families. I had a great standard of living. Mind you I've never been slimmer. Couldn't afford to eat.

Only getting qualified and employed got me out of it. And the pittance I got has been more than paid back in the last 20 years.

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By *yrdwomanWoman over a year ago

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"Now I know what the main topic of conversation is at a certain club in Salisbury I'll probably not be attending any time soon. Sounds very dull.

People don't go for the conversation...."

I can see why!

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

You can't afford to buy and run a car on benefits. Not even working tax and child tax credits puts you in that position if you're a single parent on a low wage

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By *isscheekychopsWoman over a year ago

The land of grey peas and bacon

People are so quick to judge on others misfortune....there are many that take the piss out the benefits system however there are far more that use it for it's intended purpose to help the most vulnerable of society. However there are also the people for example the fat cats who are too greedy to want to pay the correct taxes etc....it goes from one extreme to the other....Yes there are people who don't work with children and get far more than I do working but it's not their fault it's those that set the amounts they get...I will continue to support those in genuine need of assistance....to those that take the piss well I would not want to be them to be looking over my shoulder...wondering when the knock at the door will happen...

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Too busy staring out the window at others.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Get a better job and wind your neck in springs to mind.

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By *isscheekychopsWoman over a year ago

The land of grey peas and bacon

"You can't afford to buy and run a car on benefits. Not even working tax and child tax credits puts you in that position if you're a single parent on a low wage "

A lot do because they get other sources of income such as family hand outs off the books work etc....

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By *onkeydicksparties OP Man over a year ago

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"Maybe, she has tracked down her son's father and he is willing to stump up a substantial amount of cash each month to keep them in the lap of luxury that you describe

Yes she has admitted getting £350 a month from her ex in cash every month and benefits too and she does not tell them her ex is giving money swell lol

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"you don't read The Daily Mail do you ?"

I reckon so

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Do you read the Daily Express per chance?

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"You can't afford to buy and run a car on benefits. Not even working tax and child tax credits puts you in that position if you're a single parent on a low wage

A lot do because they get other sources of income such as family hand outs off the books work etc...."

not living just on benefits then is what I was getting at

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Maybe, she has tracked down her son's father and he is willing to stump up a substantial amount of cash each month to keep them in the lap of luxury that you describe

Yes she has admitted getting £350 a month from her ex in cash every month and benefits too and she does not tell them her ex is giving money swell lol"

Are you really nosey? Or does this poor woman tell you all this as she thinks you are a friend?

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By *bony in IvoryCouple over a year ago

Black&White Utopia

Much rather get on with our own lifes and stop assuming what others have/ havn't got... The rights and wrongs etc . Very few things in life are as clear cut,as first assumed by others. Are 3 sides to every story also , yours, theirs and the truth!

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By *edonistic needsWoman over a year ago

sexton

"One of those fannys, can't get attention, so start on single mothers.

Get your facts right on their income, and most don't ask to be a single mother.

Her

That's true, I didn't ask to be a single

mum, was married had a good life with ex husband and then he left...pisses me off to be honest, those that know nothing, judging

A lot of people think all single mums get pregnant for the benefits and council houses that is not always the case x"

absolutely right hun x some on benefits are in that situation cos of what life has dealt them x what about those divorcees n those with kids with disabilities

op you dont know anything about peoples personal circumstances so dont judge what you clearly dont understand

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By *imiUKMan over a year ago

Hereford

"I want to go to a donkeydicks party..sounds fucking awesome.

Yes, the promotion is fantastic, isn't it?

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By *isscheekychopsWoman over a year ago

The land of grey peas and bacon

"Maybe, she has tracked down her son's father and he is willing to stump up a substantial amount of cash each month to keep them in the lap of luxury that you describe

Yes she has admitted getting £350 a month from her ex in cash every month and benefits too and she does not tell them her ex is giving money swell lol"

If you feel so passionately about it and feel that she is fiddling her entitlement contact the DWP and report her and let them assess her income etc

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Are they paid too much.

What is your views on this I don't have any thing against them but looks like they get loads on money.

No men in sight and some are pregnant haviing more babies. I guess the more kids you have the more money you get.

What's every ones view on this."

You don't have anything against them but looks like they have loads of money....

You obviously do or you wouldn't be posting about "them"

You obviously haven't been in the situation where your ex has left you on your own with kids, having a good life to having to claim benefits, every day a struggle juggling money around, going without food to feed your kids on this supposed pile of money you get of government to go shopping and watch Jeremy Kyle everyday...

Unless you have spent a week in the life of a single mum or dad you would not believe how hard it is, was the worst time ever those 6 months I was claiming benefits.

Really think you should get facts right before posting a sweeping generalisation slagging of single mums x

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By *candiumWoman over a year ago

oban

i was going to go off on a,rant here....

but i shall rein it in...

people on benefits get paid bugger all.

People with kids get far too many perks, in and out of work.

increase benefits but people should pay for thier own life choices to have kids

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By *yrdwomanWoman over a year ago

Putting the 'cum' in Eboracum

"Maybe, she has tracked down her son's father and he is willing to stump up a substantial amount of cash each month to keep them in the lap of luxury that you describe

Yes she has admitted getting £350 a month from her ex in cash every month and benefits too and she does not tell them her ex is giving money swell lol

If you feel so passionately about it and feel that she is fiddling her entitlement contact the DWP and report her and let them assess her income etc "

But then he wouldn't be able to look down on her from his moral high ground.

Not that I am defending people who screw the system, especially as they are now taking money from people who are more entitled. But making statements without knowing the facts is basically malicious gossip. If I wanted to read that I'd buy a tabloid.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Maybe, she has tracked down her son's father and he is willing to stump up a substantial amount of cash each month to keep them in the lap of luxury that you describe

Yes she has admitted getting £350 a month from her ex in cash every month and benefits too and she does not tell them her ex is giving money swell lol"

So this is a random woman on her own with kids on benefits who has personally told you this?

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

How fecking dare you!! Im a single dad and work all hours god sends to provide for my kids i find this totally stereotypical Tory slander

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Maybe, she has tracked down her son's father and he is willing to stump up a substantial amount of cash each month to keep them in the lap of luxury that you describe

Yes she has admitted getting £350 a month from her ex in cash every month and benefits too and she does not tell them her ex is giving money swell lol"

and ? my advice would be put your train set away take off the Anorak and get out into the world, failing that blackmail the money grabbing bitch for sexual favours

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

If they're getting money elsewhere it isn't a case of being paid too much benefit. Rent is paid direct to landlords, also council tax. The greedy landlords benefit from high rents that most people can't afford if they were working on a low wage or even an average wage. Where I live it's as dear to rent privately as it is to buy. I'm digressing but it pisses me off

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

I think it's human nature to sometimes look at what others have and wonder how they achieved to buy xyz on what you think they earn ~ but you have to look at the bigger picture and be happy with what you achieve in life.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Maybe, she has tracked down her son's father and he is willing to stump up a substantial amount of cash each month to keep them in the lap of luxury that you describe

Yes she has admitted getting £350 a month from her ex in cash every month and benefits too and she does not tell them her ex is giving money swell lol

If you feel so passionately about it and feel that she is fiddling her entitlement contact the DWP and report her and let them assess her income etc "

Every little helps.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"How fecking dare you!! Im a single dad and work all hours god sends to provide for my kids i find this totally stereotypical Tory slander "

Been on benefits and have worked my arse of to put 2 kids thru uni, sometimes worked 60+ hours a week, the OP knows nothing about the subject x

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

I'm on benefits and hate it, my sons dad walked out on me when I was 6 1/2 months pregnant I didn't get any help from any one I have no family only my 2 other children, soon as my son was born I went to Csa he denied our son was his all the time this was going threw he was signing his business over to his mother so he wouldn't have to pay me maintenance, our son is disabled and the worse thing is I never wanted any more children after my oldest 2! I wouldn't be with out him now but I have been told I will find it hard to go back to work as my son needs me 24/7. I would love to go back to work start having a life. But my kids come first and. All that dick has to pay me is £4.50p a week x

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Maybe, she has tracked down her son's father and he is willing to stump up a substantial amount of cash each month to keep them in the lap of luxury that you describe

Yes she has admitted getting £350 a month from her ex in cash every month and benefits too and she does not tell them her ex is giving money swell lol"

was this at that well known location of all knowledge, the local garage as well or maybe the post office queue ? maybe you don't want to believe everything you hear especially in Salisbury as there seems to be a lot of rumours going on there !!!

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

No one in the world has any right to judge and criticise about anyone on benefits. You don't know their standing in personal life or history etc.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Free council Tax?"

Council tax benefit no longer covers the whole bill...even on passported benefits they have to pay a contribution now.

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By *ivilizedkinkCouple over a year ago

harrow

Are they paid too much.

What is your views on this I don't have any thing against them but looks like they get loads on money.

No men in sight and some are pregnant haviing more babies. I guess the more kids you have the more money you get.

What's every ones view on this."

oh hurry up everyone we got a linchin, we got a linchin .there going to linch a mum on benefits

man I bet you think nigel farage is a really cool guy too

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Wind up merchant

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"No one in the world has any right to judge and criticise about anyone on benefits. You don't know their standing in personal life or history etc.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"No one in the world has any right to judge and criticise about anyone on benefits. You don't know their standing in personal life or history etc.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

I used to live in social housing. I was single with a child. But I was working and didn't claim any other benefits.

My point is. All may not be what it seems.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

just a few points

firstly, child maintenance is no longer taken from the parent if they are on benefit. that stopped around 09. so anything her ex is giving her is hers and has zero effect on her entitlement.

secondly, hosting benefit is paid to the tenant claiming, not the landlord. only in circumstances where the tenant cannot handle their own affairs will it be paid directly to the landlord.

thirdly, one or more of her children may have a disability for who she is paid more money. disabilities are not always visible, remember that.

there are many unknown variables in the situation the op describes. more than likely the is nothing sinister going on.

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By *onkeydicksparties OP Man over a year ago

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"Free council Tax?

Council tax benefit no longer covers the whole bill...even on passported benefits they have to pay a contribution now."

Fair enough if they have to pay a contribution where does the money come from to pay it if they are not working don't get that bit why can't they get It all paid for by housing tax benefit

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Are they paid too much.

What is your views on this I don't have any thing against them but looks like they get loads on money.

No men in sight and some are pregnant haviing more babies. I guess the more kids you have the more money you get.

What's every ones view on this."

Can't possibly comment on this person, but it does make me angry when people abuse the system, but that includes certain politicians !

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By *ndy_mandyCouple over a year ago

Tredegar

Im on the sick after a car accident and no we dont get a lot of money.

£225 a fortnight. That has to pay all my bills and that includes running my car.

We do get free council tax but have to pay £20 month rent.

We are having a baby and he will be supported by us. I am planning on becoming self employed when my health improves

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Free council Tax?

Council tax benefit no longer covers the whole bill...even on passported benefits they have to pay a contribution now.

Fair enough if they have to pay a contribution where does the money come from to pay it if they are not working don't get that bit why can't they get It all paid for by housing tax benefit"

they will have to budget to pay it from the other benefit they receive, just as happens with any shortfall between rent and housing allowance.

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By *r-UniqueMan over a year ago

Carmarthenshire

I have seen both sides. One who doesn't get benefits and one who does. The one who doesn't hasn't done a days work in their life and has had everything on a plate. Free housing, etc and they refuse to work. One claims to have a bad leg. Now surely you can use a computer and a phone without needing to walk around all day? Secondly I admit asthma is lethal, but when you see that person living life like a normal person and doing everyday things easy enough and still getting freebies and having spare money to go places. It's hard to swallow when you see people who have worked for 50 years between a couple and they have a massive difficulty in mobility and being a heart sufferer to and they get no help at all. Then you can see why people get so worked up over this.

I can see benefits being a good thing, but they don't know where and when to give it out.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

is lost at what too put too this, shocked!!

some people seem too think the unemployed are their on purpose yes?? well i am unemployed so feel free too hate on me, i cannot for love nor money get a job, i have a degree in engineering and a job history.... BUT im on the autistic spectrum, i do things differently too a lot of other employees and when someone does something differently then they stand out as "not the norm" and then your out of the door, i was 20 with a job just under 30k a year(yes im actually very intellectual)..... feel free too try and give me some abuse, im known for my stubborn traits and witty comebacks

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Free council Tax?

Council tax benefit no longer covers the whole bill...even on passported benefits they have to pay a contribution now.

Fair enough if they have to pay a contribution where does the money come from to pay it if they are not working don't get that bit why can't they get It all paid for by housing tax benefit"

See that just proves that you don't have a clue what you are talking about, housing benefit and council tax benefit are seperate benefits x

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Never wanted or asked for benefits

Sadly now I had to as oh had a stroke x we get the bare minimum x

The bit that's shocking is that it costs £40 a week for him to attend 2 clubs xfor 3 hrs a week

But how can I say no? He ha no other social contact apart from me x

The op needs to wise up before putting up such threads

I'm so cross with myself for even reading the nonsense x

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By *onkeydicksparties OP Man over a year ago

SALISBURY Sat 20th MAY Mixed Erotic Party

"Free council Tax?

Council tax benefit no longer covers the whole bill...even on passported benefits they have to pay a contribution now.

Fair enough if they have to pay a contribution where does the money come from to pay it if they are not working don't get that bit why can't they get It all paid for by housing tax benefit

But surely its all paid for by tax payers to government and then paid out by goiverment it all comes from the same pot at the end of the day

See that just proves that you don't have a clue what you are talking about, housing benefit and council tax benefit are seperate benefits x"

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By *r-UniqueMan over a year ago

Carmarthenshire

"Never wanted or asked for benefits

Sadly now I had to as oh had a stroke x we get the bare minimum x

The bit that's shocking is that it costs £40 a week for him to attend 2 clubs xfor 3 hrs a week

But how can I say no? He ha no other social contact apart from me x

The op needs to wise up before putting up such threads

I'm so cross with myself for even reading the nonsense x

The fact you have never wanted or asked to be on benefits is probably why you don't get a lot of benefits when you do suddenly need it. If you put in money you get less money than people who have never put in a penny. Some people struggle on benefits and some don't. Like I said before the authorities don't know what they are doing when it comes to this.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Whenever I ask I get refused x I do work but it's hard to pay everything,raise our daughter and give him some quality of life to x but we get on with it x

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By *ophieslutTV/TS over a year ago

Central

The benefits system is generally frugal, and is something that sets us apart from a more barbaric culture and times. Most of us may fall on hard times, through no fault of our own, and where others are needy today, we may be tomorrow. We have had a government that has produced spin after spin, turning people against each other, rather than at those who should have attention drawn upon them. The very rich are those who are costing the poorer and squeezed middle dearly. And the very rich have grown exponentially richer in the last few decades. Children need money and the state should not deprive them, when our country is very wealthy. Clamour for real action against tax avoidance by society's leeches.

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By *r-UniqueMan over a year ago

Carmarthenshire

"The benefits system is generally frugal, and is something that sets us apart from a more barbaric culture and times. Most of us may fall on hard times, through no fault of our own, and where others are needy today, we may be tomorrow. We have had a government that has produced spin after spin, turning people against each other, rather than at those who should have attention drawn upon them. The very rich are those who are costing the poorer and squeezed middle dearly. And the very rich have grown exponentially richer in the last few decades. Children need money and the state should not deprive them, when our country is very wealthy. Clamour for real action against tax avoidance by society's leeches. "

Yet when the government say they will clamp on it. They are caught with expenses fraud not only a few ears back, but recently too. How can they expect the country to live by the rules if they don't set an example

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By *all-Eddies QosCouple over a year ago

wirral

"Maybe, she has tracked down her son's father and he is willing to stump up a substantial amount of cash each month to keep them in the lap of luxury that you describe

Yes she has admitted getting £350 a month from her ex in cash every month and benefits too and she does not tell them her ex is giving money swell lol"

According to C.m.o....any maintenance paid for children doesn't affect benefits regardless of how it is paid

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"I think people on benefits are given a hard time but it sells papers and has good ratings on tv but above all its a great distraction while the powers that be keep f-cking us over."

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Too many people believe the crap the papers and the news tell them, people on benefits don't live the high life we give up lifes luxuries to be able to survive feed their kids good food, keep them clothed and afford to put the heating on in the winter.

Luxuries people don't even class as luxuries like holidays, new clothes, a good mobile phone, and christmas and birthday gifts too get those things they need provy loans which are legal loan sharks who charge 400% interest the poor get poorer

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By *ee VianteWoman over a year ago

Somewhere in North Norfolk

I think if you want to pick on someone you should look to Maria Miller and the rest with their snouts in the trough.

And remember that a lot of people on benefits worked and paid into the system for years before falling on hard times. Is it fair to lump them together with those who have never worked.

Point the finger at the real greedy fraudsters, MPs and large tax avoiding companies.

Oh and by far the largest proportion of the welfare budget goes to pensioners so better have a pop at them too. Bloody scroungers.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

I really hope this sentiment grows more throughout society in general as everyone needs to see it the way it is rather than the narrow view on the situation as it is portrayed. When we can get to a point where this is common opinion, that is when we really can start making the changes in this country (I mean the UK and not just England) that we really need and will hopefully be the end of the current system of government/politics that we have today.

I live in hope anyway.

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By *icecouple561Couple over a year ago
Forum Mod

East Sussex

"I think if you want to pick on someone you should look to Maria Miller and the rest with their snouts in the trough.

And remember that a lot of people on benefits worked and paid into the system for years before falling on hard times. Is it fair to lump them together with those who have never worked.

Point the finger at the real greedy fraudsters, MPs and large tax avoiding companies.

Oh and by far the largest proportion of the welfare budget goes to pensioners so better have a pop at them too. Bloody scroungers.

Yes but it's ok because Maria Miller said she was sorry in a genuine and heart felt public apology

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

I have been on benefits a few time in the past, I hated every minute of it. For me there was a stigma attached to it, I always felt like a second class citizen. The minute I was signed fit for work by the Dr. I was back in work a week later.

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By *ee VianteWoman over a year ago

Somewhere in North Norfolk

Second class citizen?

More like the scum of the earth.

Government propaganda at its best. Divide and conquer. Set the people against each other and they won't notice what the wealthy are doing or act against it.

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By *ce WingerMan over a year ago

P.O. Box DE1 0NQ

I work on building sites. I love working on building sites. The job that I do is not the best paid in the world but nevertheless I enjoy it even on a cold wet dark morning.

Some people would not get out of bed for double the money that I earn.

Go figure

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"i was going to go off on a,rant here....

but i shall rein it in...

people on benefits get paid bugger all.

People with kids get far too many perks, in and out of work.

increase benefits but people should pay for thier own life choices to have kids"

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By *ee VianteWoman over a year ago

Somewhere in North Norfolk

"I work on building sites. I love working on building sites. The job that I do is not the best paid in the world but nevertheless I enjoy it even on a cold wet dark morning.

Some people would not get out of bed for double the money that I earn.

Go figure

Are you suggesting that because you love it, everybody should?

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By *icecouple561Couple over a year ago
Forum Mod

East Sussex

"I have been on benefits a few time in the past, I hated every minute of it. For me there was a stigma attached to it, I always felt like a second class citizen. The minute I was signed fit for work by the Dr. I was back in work a week later. "

I think the original premise of this thread is that there is a stigma attached to claiming benefits but it's nice to see that most people here don't agree.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Donkeydicksparties has got a right to his opinion, just because people disagree with it doesnt mean he is saying it to wind people up, not everyone has to agree with each other on here about everything.

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By *g99Couple over a year ago

"Free council Tax?

Council tax benefit no longer covers the whole bill...even on passported benefits they have to pay a contribution now.

Fair enough if they have to pay a contribution where does the money come from to pay it if they are not working don't get that bit why can't they get It all paid for by housing tax benefit"

probably best you just concentrate on your own life rather than your neighbours, as your not perfect yourself.

You asked a question which you already know the answer to. Se gets money from her ex. That's pays for her luxurys, not her benefits.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

The thing someone wrote about having a car - I'm unemployed but putting myself through driving lessons, got a car. Its hard work financially but improves my job prospects hugely

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By *ce WingerMan over a year ago

P.O. Box DE1 0NQ

"Are you suggesting that because you love it, everybody should? "

Absolutely not V V, but there are a few folk who don't seem to want to make the effort to be able to experience let alone enjoy any kind of work. And that saddens me in some respects.

It's possibly a culture type thing.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Kill the poor. It's extreme but hey it'd be effective.

And if you think that's too extreme maybe tell me the level of vilification that is acceptable before it offends?"

The ladies he is talking about arent poor though are they, far from it.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Maybe, she has tracked down her son's father and he is willing to stump up a substantial amount of cash each month to keep them in the lap of luxury that you describe

Yes she has admitted getting £350 a month from her ex in cash every month and benefits too and she does not tell them her ex is giving money swell lol"
Ithink you are jelious

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Unless you know the persons actual circumstances and financial situation its probably best not to just assume. "

this

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

some people end up on benefits when their partner who is in work runs off, or dies. I went on benefit once a long time ago for a few months, my daughter was so ill husband dead i spent every working hour in hospital, no time to work, but thank gawd she survived and I was lucky enough to get a new job and have worked ever since. Yes we have some lazy ppl who wont work BUT sometimes its not their fault. I always say THERE FOR THE GRACE OF GOD GO I. What happens if you lose yr job, can u live without money

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By *AURA6969TV/TS over a year ago

RUGBY

All the time the system pays then they will survive one way or another weather it's budgeting or cutting back on somethings what does it matter

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By *g99Couple over a year ago

"Maybe, she has tracked down her son's father and he is willing to stump up a substantial amount of cash each month to keep them in the lap of luxury that you describe

Yes she has admitted getting £350 a month from her ex in cash every month and benefits too and she does not tell them her ex is giving money swell lolIthink you are jelious

Spot on.

Also the fact your run a 'swingers club' in a house without the proper licenses you probably shouldn't be judging people

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"The thing someone wrote about having a car - I'm unemployed but putting myself through driving lessons, got a car. Its hard work financially but improves my job prospects hugely"
hard work? yet your unemployed

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"The thing someone wrote about having a car - I'm unemployed but putting myself through driving lessons, got a car. Its hard work financially but improves my job prospects hugely hard work? yet your unemployed "

she said hard work financially..

as in scrimping and budgeting

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By *rtemisiaWoman over a year ago

Norwich

My partner lost his sight completely in his late teens and yet went on to get a degree in his twenties, and until being made redundant last year, was working full time for 15 years. Yet still the job centre staff treat him as though he is a lazy scrounger whenever he goes in there. This seems to be their general policy. Thankfully he's developed the fuck you jack attitude and doesn't feel diminished by it. Even so, I feel like saying to the twats in there, close your eyes and try getting to the other end of the office, never mind all the way through the city to this dump each week! I hope Hugo does a massive shit on the floor in there one day! Hugo is the guide dog by the way!!!

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Cants see how she can afford it myself, costs a lot of money to run a car.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

she said hard work financially..

as in scrimping and budgeting "
oh right! hard work I see

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

she said hard work financially..

as in scrimping and budgeting oh right! hard work I see

That is hard work.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

she said hard work financially..

as in scrimping and budgeting oh right! hard work I see

potentially a poor choice in wording, but its not easy. if she feels its worth the sacrifice of other things and can afford to budget then good on her, law doesnt dictate what the benefits are to be spent on.

i do agree that being able to drive and having a car with mean better potential job prospects

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Pisses me of when i work 300 hrs a month to pay my bills and feed my family and i see layabouts on benefits' in the pub and their kids are with them iv been bought up to work and provide for my family makes me wonder if its worth it what's the country coming to grrrrr

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By *oulou45Woman over a year ago

Bucks

There are different reasons why people are on benefits, my sister was widowed at 28 with 2 young children. Yes she was on benefits she didn't live the high life. The children are now in 6th gorm and uni.. my sister also spent 4 years of hard work and went through uni herself and is now an OT. She had family support many don't. Also while my daughter was a single parent she worked. She did at the time live in an area where there were a lot of single parents who spent the days drinking. Unless circumstances are known who are we to judge ?

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

she said hard work financially..

as in scrimping and budgeting oh right! hard work I see

i do agree that being able to drive and having a car with mean better potential job prospects "
driving lessons are expensive and running a car ! wonder has she kids

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Televisions, mobile phones, computers, washing machines, etc etc are all luxury items and are not classed as living needs it's like the bloke down town sits there selling the big issue mag but he has a iPhone and was seen coming out off barkleys bank after withdrawing £200

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

It seems that it's just human nature to be jealous of other people, no matter what the circumstances are.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"It seems that it's just human nature to be jealous of other people, no matter what the circumstances are."

Is it jealousy it might be but it also might be people who work long hours and pay tax only to see it given to people who appear to already have a lot. And yet we still have people living on the streets so is the money raised going to the right people?

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Firstly how do you know she is on benefits? Social housing is available to working families...have you done a survey with all the tenants regarding their income and what type of income they are on?

Because she has told every one in the local garage she is on benefits she has 4 kids lol

She may be saying it hoping for a discount. Tactics that work sometimes

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Well All the government can do about it is.......... Get us to full employment. Make it pay to work rather than stay on benefits. Prevent more mass immigration.

Gosh that sounds like a party manifesto.

Should I become a politician. Noooooo The Sun would find out about me being on a sex website and hound me out of office LOL.

By the way this is a satirical post and does not necessarily reflect the views of the poster LOL.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

When I was bringing my son up as a single dad the benefits agency helped me get back into work giving me a helping hand.

The end result was 37.20 hrs work and I was £30 a week better of.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Are they paid too much.

What is your views on this I don't have any thing against them but looks like they get loads on money.

No men in sight and some are pregnant haviing more babies. I guess the more kids you have the more money you get.

What's every ones view on this."

Would you be happy to except a couple or single guy to your parties knowing that they claimed benefits and paying your entrance fee from benefit money?

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By *edonistic needsWoman over a year ago

sexton

"just a few points

firstly, child maintenance is no longer taken from the parent if they are on benefit. that stopped around 09. so anything her ex is giving her is hers and has zero effect on her entitlement.

secondly, hosting benefit is paid to the tenant claiming, not the landlord. only in circumstances where the tenant cannot handle their own affairs will it be paid directly to the landlord.

thirdly, one or more of her children may have a disability for who she is paid more money. disabilities are not always visible, remember that.

there are many unknown variables in the situation the op describes. more than likely the is nothing sinister going on. "

here here

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"When I was bringing my son up as a single dad the benefits agency helped me get back into work giving me a helping hand.

The end result was 37.20 hrs work and I was £30 a week better of.

"
but you feel better because you are working for you kids well done mate can't wait easy

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"When I was bringing my son up as a single dad the benefits agency helped me get back into work giving me a helping hand.

The end result was 37.20 hrs work and I was £30 a week better of.

but you feel better because you are working for you kids well done mate can't wait easy was meant to say be not wait lol "

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By *edangel_2013Woman over a year ago

southend

There but for the grace go I.

That's all I can say without getting a forum timeout.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"It seems that it's just human nature to be jealous of other people, no matter what the circumstances are.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"It seems that it's just human nature to be jealous of other people, no matter what the circumstances are.

Also people who dont have kids work hard and still have to struggle to pay for everything, and people who are on benefits who dont have kids end up on the streets homeless because nobody cares about them. People are bound to be resentful when they see single mums getting everything handed to them on a plate then they still moan about how hard it is. "
there's a woman nr me who was told she would have thought find a job when her child was 7 so she had another child now her eldest daughter has given birth as well following in her mothers footsteps outrageous attitude and abuse of the benefits system

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"It seems that it's just human nature to be jealous of other people, no matter what the circumstances are.

Also people who dont have kids work hard and still have to struggle to pay for everything, and people who are on benefits who dont have kids end up on the streets homeless because nobody cares about them. People are bound to be resentful when they see single mums getting everything handed to them on a plate then they still moan about how hard it is. there's a woman nr me who was told she would have thought find a job when her child was 7 so she had another child now her eldest daughter has given birth as well following in her mothers footsteps outrageous attitude and abuse of the benefits system "

Thats what happens, a woman near us has 4 different kids by different men, now another one on its way, she has always had a car never seem to go without anything either. If they were that bad off they wouldnt keep having kids would they. She is in a rented house but moans because she cant get a council house, then i supose she would then moan because it wasnt big enough.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

So why are so many people.not.working and on benefits...

im a single mum to two children under five. I work 40 hours a week and own my own home. I have to pay for childcare and get very little help.

is there any reason why all those.other single mums with young kids cant do it?

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"It seems that it's just human nature to be jealous of other people, no matter what the circumstances are."

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"So why are so many people.not.working and on benefits...

im a single mum to two children under five. I work 40 hours a week and own my own home. I have to pay for childcare and get very little help.

is there any reason why all those.other single mums with young kids cant do it? "

maybe some just like the idea of being a parent and looking after their own children.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"So why are so many people.not.working and on benefits...

im a single mum to two children under five. I work 40 hours a week and own my own home. I have to pay for childcare and get very little help.

is there any reason why all those.other single mums with young kids cant do it?

maybe some just like the idea of being a parent and looking after their own children. "

and its ok for someone else to pay you for that privilege?

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"So why are so many people.not.working and on benefits...

im a single mum to two children under five. I work 40 hours a week and own my own home. I have to pay for childcare and get very little help.

is there any reason why all those.other single mums with young kids cant do it?

maybe some just like the idea of being a parent and looking after their own children.

and its ok for someone else to pay you for that privilege?

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"So why are so many people.not.working and on benefits...

im a single mum to two children under five. I work 40 hours a week and own my own home. I have to pay for childcare and get very little help.

is there any reason why all those.other single mums with young kids cant do it?

maybe some just like the idea of being a parent and looking after their own children.

and its ok for someone else to pay you for that privilege?

guess so, the gov allow me the option so why not.

i paid out for childcare so someone else could look after my child, why not look after my own child and let someone else have a job.

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By *extoysareusCouple over a year ago

kinky heaven

Sad to see mums are being demonised again, what happened to the natural state of a mum looking after her children.

Mums should be looking and nurturing their children.

And we should protect that.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Sad to see mums are being demonised again, what happened to the natural state of a mum looking after her children.

Mums should be looking and nurturing their children.

And we should protect that."

whats worse i think is that its by other mothers who think they are better for working

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"So why are so many people.not.working and on benefits...

im a single mum to two children under five. I work 40 hours a week and own my own home. I have to pay for childcare and get very little help.

is there any reason why all those.other single mums with young kids cant do it? "

not many single women could afford to buy property and pay for childcare where I live. Not unless you had a huge deposit and paid a family member a pittance to have your children all through school holidays. A week in after school care is £100 for 2 children, that's without breakfast club at £2 per day per child. That's half of some people's wages I know

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By *extoysareusCouple over a year ago

kinky heaven

We were brought up as a one parent family and the mother working one day a week.

No different as today, but as everything is money driven peoples values have changed.

Once children were old enough to be responsible then my mother got full time work.

Bought house and nice retirement.

Was a struggle then, but with rising costs, bills etc it is not all rosy for most people

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By *ingerbicky69Woman over a year ago

EXETER

Ive 4kids,I work my tits off and we're still always short at the end of the week.xx

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By *ingerbicky69Woman over a year ago

EXETER

"We were brought up as a one parent family and the mother working one day a week.

No different as today, but as everything is money driven peoples values have changed.

Once children were old enough to be responsible then my mother got full time work.

Bought house and nice retirement.well said.

Was a struggle then, but with rising costs, bills etc it is not all rosy for most people"

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"We were brought up as a one parent family and the mother working one day a week.

No different as today, but as everything is money driven peoples values have changed.

Once children were old enough to be responsible then my mother got full time work.

Bought house and nice retirement.well said.

Was a struggle then, but with rising costs, bills etc it is not all rosy for most people

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were not having a go at single mums they deserve a medal bringing kids up on their own i think the point this post was trying to make is about the ones that abuse the benefits system

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"We were brought up as a one parent family and the mother working one day a week.

No different as today, but as everything is money driven peoples values have changed.

Once children were old enough to be responsible then my mother got full time work.

Bought house and nice retirement.well said.

Was a struggle then, but with rising costs, bills etc it is not all rosy for most people

were not having a go at single mums they deserve a medal bringing kids up on their own i think the point this post was trying to make is about the ones that abuse the benefits system "

which are a minority, believe it or not. You don't get media coverage for being single and working your arse off to give your kids a good life

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By *adja_lazloCouple over a year ago

Solihull

Are they paid too much.

What is your views on this I don't have any thing against them but looks like they get loads on money.

No men in sight and some are pregnant haviing more babies. I guess the more kids you have the more money you get.

What's every ones view on this."

ooppsss lol

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"We were brought up as a one parent family and the mother working one day a week.

No different as today, but as everything is money driven peoples values have changed.

Once children were old enough to be responsible then my mother got full time work.

Bought house and nice retirement.well said.

Was a struggle then, but with rising costs, bills etc it is not all rosy for most people

were not having a go at single mums they deserve a medal bringing kids up on their own i think the point this post was trying to make is about the ones that abuse the benefits system

which are a minority, believe it or not. You don't get media coverage for being single and working your arse off to give your kids a good life"
there seems to be the hell off a lot where i live but also hard working mums who i totally respect for the sacrifice they make for their kids

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

being on benefits is awful. ive just got a job after 2 years on them ....its no fun . cheating does go. but the authorities are getting better at finding them out

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"there seems to be the hell off a lot where i live but also hard working mums who i totally respect for the sacrifice they make for their kids "

i think most people raising a child (working or not) do as good as job as they can.

my daughter hated me working, so made the decission to end my employment and focus more on her and her needs.

financially as a household we will suffer but i hope she gains in confidence and be happier for having me around

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"there seems to be the hell off a lot where i live but also hard working mums who i totally respect for the sacrifice they make for their kids

i think most people raising a child (working or not) do as good as job as they can.

my daughter hated me working, so made the decission to end my employment and focus more on her and her needs.

financially as a household we will suffer but i hope she gains in confidence and be happier for having me around "
i agree but your not abusing the system are you

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By *extoysareusCouple over a year ago

kinky heaven

I blame the mps more who are supposed to be in moral judgement who are the REAL benefit scroungers and fraudsters.

But lets pick on single parents

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"there seems to be the hell off a lot where i live but also hard working mums who i totally respect for the sacrifice they make for their kids

i think most people raising a child (working or not) do as good as job as they can.

my daughter hated me working, so made the decission to end my employment and focus more on her and her needs.

financially as a household we will suffer but i hope she gains in confidence and be happier for having me around "

my mum used to work time i didnt like it when i was a kid either but she had too. parents didnt used to get all the hand outs like they do now.

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By *extoysareusCouple over a year ago

kinky heaven

"there seems to be the hell off a lot where i live but also hard working mums who i totally respect for the sacrifice they make for their kids

i think most people raising a child (working or not) do as good as job as they can.

my daughter hated me working, so made the decission to end my employment and focus more on her and her needs.

financially as a household we will suffer but i hope she gains in confidence and be happier for having me around

my mum used to work time i didnt like it when i was a kid either but she had too. parents didnt used to get all the hand outs like they do now."

They don't have 50p Meters like they used to.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"I blame the mps more who are supposed to be in moral judgement who are the REAL benefit scroungers and fraudsters.

But lets pick on single parents

Boom. But hey, let's just point the finger at each other.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"I blame the mps more who are supposed to be in moral judgement who are the REAL benefit scroungers and fraudsters.

But lets pick on single parents

Well if there wasnt so many of these single parents like the ones the op mentioned then people wouldnt go on about them the way they do.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

my mum used to work time i didnt like it when i was a kid either but she had too. parents didnt used to get all the hand outs like they do now."

go your mum then!

if the gov allow me to take time out with my child im not gonna feel guilty for taking the one chance of being a parent to my daughter away..

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"We were brought up as a one parent family and the mother working one day a week.

No different as today, but as everything is money driven peoples values have changed.

Once children were old enough to be responsible then my mother got full time work.

Bought house and nice retirement.well said.

Was a struggle then, but with rising costs, bills etc it is not all rosy for most people

were not having a go at single mums they deserve a medal bringing kids up on their own i think the point this post was trying to make is about the ones that abuse the benefits system

which are a minority, believe it or not. You don't get media coverage for being single and working your arse off to give your kids a good lifethere seems to be the hell off a lot where i live but also hard working mums who i totally respect for the sacrifice they make for their kids "

they will be concentrated in poorer areas where there is a lot of social housing. Every single parent I know is working or looking for work to fit around school hours. Unfortunately those jobs don't pay well and are sought after by not just single people

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By *extoysareusCouple over a year ago

kinky heaven

"I blame the mps more who are supposed to be in moral judgement who are the REAL benefit scroungers and fraudsters.

But lets pick on single parents

Boom. But hey, let's just point the finger at each other."

Exactly whilst they walk away with the bank.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"I blame the mps more who are supposed to be in moral judgement who are the REAL benefit scroungers and fraudsters.

But lets pick on single parents

Boom. But hey, let's just point the finger at each other.

Exactly whilst they walk away with the bank.

Well, it certainly appears to be working...

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"I blame the mps more who are supposed to be in moral judgement who are the REAL benefit scroungers and fraudsters.

But lets pick on single parents

Well if there wasnt so many of these single parents like the ones the op mentioned then people wouldnt go on about them the way they do."

Thats true but not all circumstances are the same some people milk the system but others have genuine need due to no fault of theirs sometimes its unfair to tar everyone with the same brush.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"I blame the mps more who are supposed to be in moral judgement who are the REAL benefit scroungers and fraudsters.

But lets pick on single parents

I agree with you about the mps but two wrongs dont make a right.

if everyone thought like that what would it be like.

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By *ee VianteWoman over a year ago

Somewhere in North Norfolk

she said hard work financially..

as in scrimping and budgeting oh right! hard work I see

Try living on benefits for any length if time. You'd be surprised how hard and tiring it is. You can't pay anyone to sort anything out for you. You usually can't just replace things when you need to and you put a lot of energy into making do and mending. Just living day to day with everything budgeted for and no money for extras, worrying that something unexpected will come up. Coping with the times when payments are late, or wrong, or stopped for months because of a form you weren't told about not being filled in. You can't save and you can't get credit so when you're left without money, what do you do then? And it really runs you down when people treat you like something they trod in.

It is hard work being short of money. Spending the winter cold because you can't afford to heat the house is tiring and runs you down. Accidentally tearing an item of clothing and not being able to replace it. Having to add up everything in the supermarket as you go round and once you reach your budget you have to decide what to go without.

Life on benefits is generally not much fun and is indeed hard work.

I also disagree with the earlier post why whoever said a computer and a washing machine are luxuries. Try living without either for any length of time. I have and I wouldn't recommend it.

How many of you actually have a laundrette nearby that you could get to with your washing without a car? Most laundrettes have closed. And the ones that haven't are astronomically expensive to have to use regularly.

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By *extoysareusCouple over a year ago

kinky heaven

"I blame the mps more who are supposed to be in moral judgement who are the REAL benefit scroungers and fraudsters.

But lets pick on single parents

I agree with you about the mps but two wrongs dont make a right.

if everyone thought like that what would it be like.

Well there seems to be a lot of benefit threads here which fraud is in the minority,just seems another bashing thread.

And to me they are all keeping up appearances threads.

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By *ee VianteWoman over a year ago

Somewhere in North Norfolk

If the benefit bashers put half as much effort into campaigning against our government and the banks helping themselves to billions at the expense of the economy and of ordinary people we might actually get to a point where there are jobs and prospects for the millions of people who need them.

One rule for them, another for us. But we're all in it together.

Does anyone see austerity affecting our politicians or those at the top of the banking ladder?

Benefit abuse is a drop in the ocean next to tax evasion and expenses fiddling.

Pick a target that will make a difference, not the easiest.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"If the benefit bashers put half as much effort into campaigning against our government and the banks helping themselves to billions at the expense of the economy and of ordinary people we might actually get to a point where there are jobs and prospects for the millions of people who need them.

One rule for them, another for us. But we're all in it together.

Does anyone see austerity affecting our politicians or those at the top of the banking ladder?

Benefit abuse is a drop in the ocean next to tax evasion and expenses fiddling.

Pick a target that will make a difference, not the easiest. "

You have a point in that but also if the people claiming put more effort into getting a job it would have more effect. Also its really not good trying to justify benefit theft with fax fiddling theft both sets are scummy for doing it plain and simple.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"So why are so many people.not.working and on benefits...

im a single mum to two children under five. I work 40 hours a week and own my own home. I have to pay for childcare and get very little help.

is there any reason why all those.other single mums with young kids cant do it? "

Good for you a great attitude ok not everyone can do it but its good to see someone wants to contribute to the system.

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By *extoysareusCouple over a year ago

kinky heaven

One rule for them, another for us. But we're all in it together.

Does anyone see austerity affecting our politicians or those at the top of the banking ladder?

Benefit abuse is a drop in the ocean next to tax evasion and expenses fiddling.

Pick a target that will make a difference, not the easiest. "

Exactly all I see is "mrs bouquet" mentality

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

It is funny how we never get a " I saw my business man / woman neighbour come out their big house get in their Rolls and go on an expensive holiday I wonder if he paid all his tax or does he have an off shore account " thread , it is easy to bash someone that may be on benefits.

And just for the record I have been in in full employment for 35 years and never claimed a penny from the state.

How many tax workers try to get money from Vodaphone, google etc. Do the government clamp down on their legal tax avoidance schemes ?????

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