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over a year ago
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Anyone any good with cars?
I've got a Mondeo 2.0 TDCI 130 bhp. It's Mark 3, 53 plate (although manufactured in 2004) and done 161,000 miles. It's recently had lots of work done (water pump, injectors replaced, auxiliary belt changed etc) and it suddenly threw up an EML and the glow plug light is flashing, it's running in limp mode. Ran diagnostic and got a fault code suggesting fuel pump/injector/cam malfunction. The mechanic said it was probably a blocked injector and I should just call it quits and sell it for breaking. I'm not convinced, I think it could be the camshaft sensor, is there an easy way to tell besides just replacing it and hoping for the best? |
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"Anyone any good with cars?
I've got a Mondeo 2.0 TDCI 130 bhp. It's Mark 3, 53 plate (although manufactured in 2004) and done 161,000 miles. It's recently had lots of work done (water pump, injectors replaced, auxiliary belt changed etc) and it suddenly threw up an EML and the glow plug light is flashing, it's running in limp mode. Ran diagnostic and got a fault code suggesting fuel pump/injector/cam malfunction. The mechanic said it was probably a blocked injector and I should just call it quits and sell it for breaking. I'm not convinced, I think it could be the camshaft sensor, is there an easy way to tell besides just replacing it and hoping for the best?"
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"Anyone any good with cars?
I've got a Mondeo 2.0 TDCI 130 bhp. It's Mark 3, 53 plate (although manufactured in 2004) and done 161,000 miles. It's recently had lots of work done (water pump, injectors replaced, auxiliary belt changed etc) and it suddenly threw up an EML and the glow plug light is flashing, it's running in limp mode. Ran diagnostic and got a fault code suggesting fuel pump/injector/cam malfunction. The mechanic said it was probably a blocked injector and I should just call it quits and sell it for breaking. I'm not convinced, I think it could be the camshaft sensor, is there an easy way to tell besides just replacing it and hoping for the best?
You lost me after "Anyone any good""
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By (user no longer on site) OP
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"I would change the sensor.... to start before I go near fuel pump. ..... "
I don't think it's the pump in honesty, I guess I've got nothing to lose really as the sensor is a thirty quid part. I don't really want to sell it or break it, I love my car. |
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A quick check leads me to belive the CPS is electromagnetic, therefore, it should have a resistance you can measure with a multimeter across the connector pins/sockets, not sure what the resistance should be (on my merc it was about 700 ohms), but if it's open circuit (ie infinity ohms), then it's almost certainly faulty.
Have you tried new glowplugs too? |
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"A quick check leads me to belive the CPS is electromagnetic, therefore, it should have a resistance you can measure with a multimeter across the connector pins/sockets, not sure what the resistance should be (on my merc it was about 700 ohms), but if it's open circuit (ie infinity ohms), then it's almost certainly faulty.
Have you tried new glowplugs too?"
Glowplugs were replaced just before Christmas. I love Monty the Mondy, but I don't think he loves me... lol |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Anyone any good with cars?
I've got a Mondeo 2.0 TDCI 130 bhp. It's Mark 3, 53 plate (although manufactured in 2004) and done 161,000 miles. It's recently had lots of work done (water pump, injectors replaced, auxiliary belt changed etc) and it suddenly threw up an EML and the glow plug light is flashing, it's running in limp mode. Ran diagnostic and got a fault code suggesting fuel pump/injector/cam malfunction. The mechanic said it was probably a blocked injector and I should just call it quits and sell it for breaking. I'm not convinced, I think it could be the camshaft sensor, is there an easy way to tell besides just replacing it and hoping for the best?"
Have you been on any of the for forums? |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
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"Is it running OK? if not whats it doing? "
It's running in limp mode so currently no turbo, but the eml will do that.
First start of the day I get a lovely puff of blue smoke but then it's fine. Other than having no guts it's running fine, just a bit costly. |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
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"Anyone any good with cars?
I've got a Mondeo 2.0 TDCI 130 bhp. It's Mark 3, 53 plate (although manufactured in 2004) and done 161,000 miles. It's recently had lots of work done (water pump, injectors replaced, auxiliary belt changed etc) and it suddenly threw up an EML and the glow plug light is flashing, it's running in limp mode. Ran diagnostic and got a fault code suggesting fuel pump/injector/cam malfunction. The mechanic said it was probably a blocked injector and I should just call it quits and sell it for breaking. I'm not convinced, I think it could be the camshaft sensor, is there an easy way to tell besides just replacing it and hoping for the best?
Have you been on any of the for forums?"
Yes, everyone is a bit stumped but it seems a common fault. |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
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"If its starting OK its not going to be glowplugs
I know that, they're new 
Yeah, sorry, dumb suggestion - have you tried testing the CPS to see if it's open circuit?"
Nope not tried that yet, will make that my next port of call. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"If its starting OK its not going to be glowplugs
I know that, they're new
Yeah, sorry, dumb suggestion - have you tried testing the CPS to see if it's open circuit?
Nope not tried that yet, will make that my next port of call."
My experience shows non specific fault code, and no turbo was map sensor
Would help if you said what the code was |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"P0251"
Change fuel and air filter first ,
if still the same take it to a proper diesel engineer , that can fault find it correctly .
You will look at forums and get advice and spend loads of money before you get anywhere .
When I say diesel engineers I mean a proper diesel engineer. Rather than a mechanic
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By (user no longer on site)
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i love fords but the mk3 mondeo was a dreadfull piece of engineering.lovely looking car but has so many faults from injectors,fuel pumps,leaking rear light seals,door seals,bonnet catch setting off the alarm etc etc .get rid and get a mark 4 |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
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"i love fords but the mk3 mondeo was a dreadfull piece of engineering.lovely looking car but has so many faults from injectors,fuel pumps,leaking rear light seals,door seals,bonnet catch setting off the alarm etc etc .get rid and get a mark 4 "
You've literally just described Monty 
Would love a mk4 but money is a factor right now. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"i love fords but the mk3 mondeo was a dreadfull piece of engineering.lovely looking car but has so many faults from injectors,fuel pumps,leaking rear light seals,door seals,bonnet catch setting off the alarm etc etc .get rid and get a mark 4
You've literally just described Monty
Would love a mk4 but money is a factor right now."
the mk4 is a great car so much better than the mk3 the engines are brilliant and dont have the injector,fuel pump problems.prices are starting to come down |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Anyone any good with cars?
I've got a Mondeo 2.0 TDCI 130 bhp. It's Mark 3, 53 plate (although manufactured in 2004) and done 161,000 miles. It's recently had lots of work done (water pump, injectors replaced, auxiliary belt changed etc) and it suddenly threw up an EML and the glow plug light is flashing, it's running in limp mode. Ran diagnostic and got a fault code suggesting fuel pump/injector/cam malfunction. The mechanic said it was probably a blocked injector and I should just call it quits and sell it for breaking. I'm not convinced, I think it could be the camshaft sensor, is there an easy way to tell besides just replacing it and hoping for the best?"
Wouldn't have a diesel mondeo,they're good when they're good but very expensive when they've got a problem the injectors are usually a really big problem. Cut your losses it could get very pricey  |
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By (user no longer on site)
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If the cam sensor is a grey colour connector replace it these were a commom problem if not at that milage id remove derv filter n check for metal particles in fuel sure sign pumps breakin down internally u can rule out injectors with a leak off check |
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"Anyone any good with cars?
I've got a Mondeo 2.0 TDCI 130 bhp. It's Mark 3, 53 plate (although manufactured in 2004) and done 161,000 miles. It's recently had lots of work done (water pump, injectors replaced, auxiliary belt changed etc) and it suddenly threw up an EML and the glow plug light is flashing, it's running in limp mode. Ran diagnostic and got a fault code suggesting fuel pump/injector/cam malfunction. The mechanic said it was probably a blocked injector and I should just call it quits and sell it for breaking. I'm not convinced, I think it could be the camshaft sensor, is there an easy way to tell besides just replacing it and hoping for the best?
Wouldn't have a diesel mondeo,they're good when they're good but very expensive when they've got a problem the injectors are usually a really big problem. Cut your losses it could get very pricey "
one injector set me back £125 +labour and vat total £225 |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
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"Anyone any good with cars?
I've got a Mondeo 2.0 TDCI 130 bhp. It's Mark 3, 53 plate (although manufactured in 2004) and done 161,000 miles. It's recently had lots of work done (water pump, injectors replaced, auxiliary belt changed etc) and it suddenly threw up an EML and the glow plug light is flashing, it's running in limp mode. Ran diagnostic and got a fault code suggesting fuel pump/injector/cam malfunction. The mechanic said it was probably a blocked injector and I should just call it quits and sell it for breaking. I'm not convinced, I think it could be the camshaft sensor, is there an easy way to tell besides just replacing it and hoping for the best?
Wouldn't have a diesel mondeo,they're good when they're good but very expensive when they've got a problem the injectors are usually a really big problem. Cut your losses it could get very pricey "
Injectors were replaced, and the flywheel and gearbox was changed too as they are usually an issue. So theoretically it should just be the age/mileage type stuff. I had a petrol but it was costing me a fortune, I do 16 miles a day in school run alone x |
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"If the cam sensor is a grey colour connector replace it these were a commom problem if not at that milage id remove derv filter n check for metal particles in fuel sure sign pumps breakin down internally u can rule out injectors with a leak off check "
Yup sensor is grey, just going to change it. Allinjectors clean, no fuel in the engine bay and all filters changed at Christmas. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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forgot to mention that if your starter motor starts to break down its a sure sign your clutch is on the way out too.its around a grand to buy and fit a clutch in a mk3 which is why so many have seen the breakers yard early |
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"forgot to mention that if your starter motor starts to break down its a sure sign your clutch is on the way out too.its around a grand to buy and fit a clutch in a mk3 which is why so many have seen the breakers yard early"
Starter motor replaced in November |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"forgot to mention that if your starter motor starts to break down its a sure sign your clutch is on the way out too.its around a grand to buy and fit a clutch in a mk3 which is why so many have seen the breakers yard early
Starter motor replaced in November "
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By (user no longer on site)
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You could try searching a ford forum as there should be many people willing to help you out
its a great invention is the internet lol
even a seccond look at your car from a different garage maybe
if you have had the car a while milage is nothing as long as you look after it
Craig |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Honestly I've practically rebuilt the thing lol
hope u did a better job than ford  "
That would not take a lot, I left Ford dealerships in 2000 because the cars were so bad, I would never have another one |
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"Anyone any good with cars?
I've got a Mondeo 2.0 TDCI 130 bhp. It's Mark 3, 53 plate (although manufactured in 2004) and done 161,000 miles. It's recently had lots of work done (water pump, injectors replaced, auxiliary belt changed etc) and it suddenly threw up an EML and the glow plug light is flashing, it's running in limp mode. Ran diagnostic and got a fault code suggesting fuel pump/injector/cam malfunction. The mechanic said it was probably a blocked injector and I should just call it quits and sell it for breaking. I'm not convinced, I think it could be the camshaft sensor, is there an easy way to tell besides just replacing it and hoping for the best?"
You're a girl,
How do you know all this?
Put the kettle on- 2 sugars,
There's a love lol |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
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"forgot to mention that if your starter motor starts to break down its a sure sign your clutch is on the way out too.its around a grand to buy and fit a clutch in a mk3 which is why so many have seen the breakers yard early
Starter motor replaced in November
when did u change the clutch "
The clutch is fine, was changed with the gearbox and the mass flywheel |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
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"Anyone any good with cars?
I've got a Mondeo 2.0 TDCI 130 bhp. It's Mark 3, 53 plate (although manufactured in 2004) and done 161,000 miles. It's recently had lots of work done (water pump, injectors replaced, auxiliary belt changed etc) and it suddenly threw up an EML and the glow plug light is flashing, it's running in limp mode. Ran diagnostic and got a fault code suggesting fuel pump/injector/cam malfunction. The mechanic said it was probably a blocked injector and I should just call it quits and sell it for breaking. I'm not convinced, I think it could be the camshaft sensor, is there an easy way to tell besides just replacing it and hoping for the best?
You're a girl,
How do you know all this?
Put the kettle on- 2 sugars,
There's a love lol "
Shock horror, I'm a girl, and I know about cars! I also drive vans and lift heavy arse weights. I can also vote!  |
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"forgot to mention that if your starter motor starts to break down its a sure sign your clutch is on the way out too.its around a grand to buy and fit a clutch in a mk3 which is why so many have seen the breakers yard early
Starter motor replaced in November
when did u change the clutch
The clutch is fine, was changed with the gearbox and the mass flywheel"
the mass flywheel is part of the clutch they are duel mass on mondeos |
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I gave good news and bad.
Mine has just had the same problem. It is a Mk3 ST with the 2.2 engine.
I reckon it's your EGR valve. The bad news is its bloody expensive. To swap it it's four nuts and a screw driver . Honestly it's dead simple
The good news, and you won't believe me When you know which type of EGR valve you have. Go and get one from Jaguar,your Ford is the same as an X type and the part is about £100, cheaper.
Its what I did about 4 weeks ago.
Ps, you can get a fault code reader from eBay for£22, then you just Google the fault codes.
If this has been any help,PM me and i will talk you thru it. |
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By *eavenNhellCouple
over a year ago
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had one of these and it was a constant nightmare for dropping into limp mode turns out it was the injectors losing there code to the ecu £80 a time to have them re coded at local diesel fitters ford wanted £700 to change the lot ! luckily found a guy on a forum who could do the coding for £10 a pop on his lap top and do a proper diagnostic at the same time maybe worth trying rather than throwing money at gueses good luck .ended up bining mine for a huge loss after spending £1k + on it wouldnt have another if you gave it to me Fix Or Repair Dailey was spot on
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"forgot to mention that if your starter motor starts to break down its a sure sign your clutch is on the way out too.its around a grand to buy and fit a clutch in a mk3 which is why so many have seen the breakers yard early
Starter motor replaced in November
when did u change the clutch
The clutch is fine, was changed with the gearbox and the mass flywheel
the mass flywheel is part of the clutch they are duel mass on mondeos "
Not on this one it isn't  |
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