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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"I'm surprised the conspiracy theorist nutters haven't been out in full force on this yet..........or have I missed something?"
Aliens, insurance fraud etc.....
FWIW It's under the Indian ocean unfortunately. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"probably somewhere in the ocean off the east coast of Australia...."
West coast.
But that's only speculation from some satellite pictures so far isn't it, or have they found more evidence? |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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When they said a possible hijacking I felt hopeful that they had landed elsewhere but were alive but the latest news (from this morning) has left me doubtful.
There are a lot of questions to be answered. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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Just said in news the debris found was not from the missing plane. The mystery grows.
My personal opinion is that the Malaysian government accidentally shot it down when it flew into restricted airspace. And they now covering it up |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Just said in news the debris found was not from the missing plane. The mystery grows.
My personal opinion is that the Malaysian government accidentally shot it down when it flew into restricted airspace. And they now covering it up"
this wouldn't be the first time a civilian aircraft as been shot down.
If it had been shot down it would have split in to a fair few pieces. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Just said in news the debris found was not from the missing plane. The mystery grows.
My personal opinion is that the Malaysian government accidentally shot it down when it flew into restricted airspace. And they now covering it up"
Conflicting news reports as the sky news app us saying the debris could be from the plane. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"probably somewhere in the ocean off the east coast of Australia....
West coast.
But that's only speculation from some satellite pictures so far isn't it, or have they found more evidence?"
I meant West as it was off Perth but wrote East ~ durr! |
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By *emmefataleWoman
over a year ago
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"The news is saying that the search for the debris has been stalled due to the bad weather over there. "
I have given up thinking about it, its all very strange. I feel for the loved ones of those on board though.  |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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The plane was carrying a cargo of lithium ion batteries. These little devils are the ones that grounded the 787 Dreamliner when they caught fire. I don't know how many but more than 35kg is illegal in a passenger plane.
Speculation now is that these caught fire and the crew were incapacitated by smoke inhalation after setting course towards the nearest runway. The plane carried on on autopilot until it ran out of fuel. The passengers would have been dead or unconscious by the time it crashed. |
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"Do not believe the "we don't know where it is" line.... one big cover up for something....
Just curious as why you don't believe them"
Us, and even more so the Yanks, are watching everything. Something the size of a plane doesn't just disappear without no trace at all. Technology is sophisticated enough to have tracked it below radar before. Just sounds all too convenient to me.
Regarding the smoke, I don't believe that, there would have been alarms going off left right and centre with a fire and fumes and they would have had time to alert ground control. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Do not believe the "we don't know where it is" line.... one big cover up for something....
Just curious as why you don't believe them
Us, and even more so the Yanks, are watching everything. Something the size of a plane doesn't just disappear without no trace at all. Technology is sophisticated enough to have tracked it below radar before. Just sounds all too convenient to me.
Regarding the smoke, I don't believe that, there would have been alarms going off left right and centre with a fire and fumes and they would have had time to alert ground control. "
Just to say that the laws of physics means and aircraft CAN be lost without trace in a radar blindspot. A light twin ditched in the Irish Sea a few years ago and declared a mayday. It took them a good few hours to find it despite knowing where it was roughly. WIll have a look for the report.
IF it was carrying a lithium Ion battery cargo that immediately gives me chills - these Mutherf*ckers don't just burn they incinerate.  |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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And in an area as remote as that the other active and passive tracking systems can easily fail to communicate with home.
I think the cause has just presented itself if that report on the batteries is accurate. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"They will still have had warning on the batteries so doubt it was that alone... "
Have a look at UPS 6, Lithium battery cargo ignited and took out a 747-400 in 2 mins 30 seconds from detection -
Personally I can't see a cover up just speculation taking on a life of it's own. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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A "better" case, a pilot nicked the plane and the passengers are held somewhere - which is one situation the people are hoping for as they still have a chance. However, I think the pilots (one or the other) or someone took it as a political or suicide mission into the ocean. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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It's always easiest to blame the pilots. The fact is, with the IFF off most civilian radar will not be able to see the aircraft unless it is close to an airport. Military radar installations are secret so any info from them will be given to the appropriate authorities and not made public.
The Inmarsat satellite gave two possible positions, one to the north and one to the south. If the plane had gone north it would have been picked up by a dozen different countries, that is why they are searching to the south.
All the known facts point towards an electrical fire knocking out the comms and the crew succumbing to smoke inhalation and hypoxia. They would have ran out of oxygen in 15 minutes and death soon after.
Similar to the golfer Payne Stewart who died in 1999 |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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Hello all,
the fire theory, even as someone said it could take just two and a half minutes still gives enough time for a Mayday which never happened. Also why switch off the transponder and acars?
Alec |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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The problem is the information is part real part speculation then extracted out into semi plausible theories on the news or on the web, which then gets repeated on the news and the web as facts which just adds confusion.
All we can do is wait IF they find the flight and cockpit recorder then we may one day find out what happened.
Meanwhile many countries are helping where they can in the fading hope of finding survivors, the answers would also be nice but a much lower priority. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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A slow decompRession can occur without the alarms going off. You are assuming that the system was switched off and not incapacitated by fire or electrical failure |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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Just imagine it actually landed and everyone's at home. Some guy at air traffic control fell asleep and is now too afraid to say anything. Kind of like that woman that joined the search party for herself. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Hello all,
the fire theory, even as someone said it could take just two and a half minutes still gives enough time for a Mayday which never happened. Also why switch off the transponder and acars?
Alec"
Sounds odd but the priority is Aviate, Navigate communicate in that order. 2 mins isn't long to work through the immediate action checklists/FRC's/QRH or whatever.
And with re: to the Transponder and ACARS. If the Circuit Breakers (CB's) are pulled to isolate the power then whole banks of non essential equipment goes off line -
You don't need them to fly and could be part of the problem so get rid of them until you've got the situation under control. Unfortunately looks like the couldn't.
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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The comms are located in the forward hold, the navigation stuff is aft. Two theories are nose wheel catching fire and Li Ion batteries in cargo combusting. Either of which could quite easily take out the comms allowing the plane to carry on flying. The plane then turned towards the nearest landing strip Langkawi. It is believed that the pilots were then either overcome with smoke or ran out of air. If other systems were also failing they may not have noticed the O2 alarm warning them that the levels were low, they could then be overcome with hypoxia, pass out and then die. At 35000 ft you are talking about 2 minutes max, possibly less. Even with smoke hoods they had a max of 15 minutes air. Should be enough to get the plane to a lower altitude but who knows what else might have failed. The suicide or hijacking theories don't fit the known facts. Li ion batteries should never be carried by air, especially after being left boiling in the sun for two days as has been suggested. They have been responsible for several plane crashes in recent years |
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