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Prostitution: What's the Harm?
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Its on bbc3 now, its an interesting program."
Fine if its the working girls choice but the reality is a lot are not in by choice and many are threatened or worse into it. |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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"Its on bbc3 now, its an interesting program.
Fine if its the working girls choice but the reality is a lot are not in by choice and many are threatened or worse into it."
Your right there, would be good if it was their own choice. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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The interesting point is that if it were legal it would need to be, 1. Regulated, 2. Policed 3. Taxed
And you couldnt really do that properly. Whose to say who you are and are not having sex with, and thus how do your tax return on something that you cant really measure?i dunno how they do it in holland, i think the girls must havta always write receipts maybe? I know theyre considered self employed n stuff tho.
Its just funny to consider all the ins and outs, like if u contract hiv or something, is that classed as an industrial accident? |
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By *icketysplitsWoman
over a year ago
Way over Yonder, that's where I'm bound |
"my friend was a pro who used to have them round her house its not a nice life "
Woman's Hour last week had prostitutes who think there is a good life to be had and those who don't. It has been interesting listening.
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By *uby0000Woman
over a year ago
hertfordshire |
"my friend was a pro who used to have them round her house its not a nice life
Woman's Hour last week had prostitutes who think there is a good life to be had and those who don't. It has been interesting listening.
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she used to get trouble as they turned up at her house and ended up having to move |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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If it is legalized surely it would bring more regulation and safety to the ppl who decide to work in the industry, Its proven there is a market for it. Ppls moral thinking is changing and I say legalize it and stop the stigma attached to it. I myself have never used ones services, actually I have never even seen a stripper but anything that can make things safer for ppl can only be a better way of life |
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By *icketysplitsWoman
over a year ago
Way over Yonder, that's where I'm bound |
"If it is legalized surely it would bring more regulation and safety to the ppl who decide to work in the industry, Its proven there is a market for it. Ppls moral thinking is changing and I say legalize it and stop the stigma attached to it. I myself have never used ones services, actually I have never even seen a stripper but anything that can make things safer for ppl can only be a better way of life"
There will always be a demand for the under the counter encounters though - teenagers in particular.
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By (user no longer on site)
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"If it is legalized surely it would bring more regulation and safety to the ppl who decide to work in the industry, Its proven there is a market for it. Ppls moral thinking is changing and I say legalize it and stop the stigma attached to it. I myself have never used ones services, actually I have never even seen a stripper but anything that can make things safer for ppl can only be a better way of life
There will always be a demand for the under the counter encounters though - teenagers in particular.
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This could be classed as totally different topic. You can't class prostitution and paedophilia as the same. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"If it is legalized surely it would bring more regulation and safety to the ppl who decide to work in the industry, Its proven there is a market for it. Ppls moral thinking is changing and I say legalize it and stop the stigma attached to it. I myself have never used ones services, actually I have never even seen a stripper but anything that can make things safer for ppl can only be a better way of life
There will always be a demand for the under the counter encounters though - teenagers in particular.
This could be classed as totally different topic. You can't class prostitution and paedophilia as the same."
If they are exchanging money and they are of legal consenting age then it is prostitution |
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By *imjohnCouple
over a year ago
Clacton on sea, Essex |
"Its fun as you keep hearing its illegal, but yet they speak of it open on tv, doesnt make sense."
Its legal as long as only one girl works from a venue, girls also pay tax now so its as legal as being a banker, trafic warden, debt collector which are also thought of as unsavoury jobs lol!. |
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By *ee VianteWoman
over a year ago
Somewhere in North Norfolk |
There's a difference between legalisation and decriminalisation.
Pro-prostitution campaigners tend to support decriminalisation rather than legalisation. I can't remember the full specifics of the details off the top of my head though. |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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"Its fun as you keep hearing its illegal, but yet they speak of it open on tv, doesnt make sense.
Its legal as long as only one girl works from a venue, girls also pay tax now so its as legal as being a banker, trafic warden, debt collector which are also thought of as unsavoury jobs lol!. "
lol yes good point there and yes its just another public service but for sex  . |
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As some say, prostitution is legal. Selling sex or buying sex for money is legal in this country. Working in a brothel is legal, but running one is not. Selling sex on the streets is illegal though. We should smarten our laws and allow consenting adults do what they wish, and help protect women who may be vulnerable. There are moves to outlaw it, like in Sweden and elsewhere. Deal with trafficing of course, but that is a separate problem. She was a slightly annoying presenter, and it was almost tv for immature viewers. |
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By *unstuffMan
over a year ago
Edinburgh/Cumbria |
I live in Edinburgh where there are licensed "massage parlours". everyone know that's where you go to pay for sex.
They pay the're taxes and the girls are safe from abuse.
Where as in Glasgow they are not allowed and you have a lot more drugs and violence issues. Personally I would much prefer for it to be de-criminalized for both the girls and guys as it's going to carry on anyway, plus you get taxes from the business. Everyone's A winner..
And no I haven't.. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"I live in Edinburgh where there are licensed "massage parlours". everyone know that's where you go to pay for sex.
They pay the're taxes and the girls are safe from abuse.
Where as in Glasgow they are not allowed and you have a lot more drugs and violence issues. Personally I would much prefer for it to be de-criminalized for both the girls and guys as it's going to carry on anyway, plus you get taxes from the business. Everyone's A winner..
And no I haven't.."
That's the way to go not in your face locations, monitored checks done and criminal elements kept out of it. |
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By *icketysplitsWoman
over a year ago
Way over Yonder, that's where I'm bound |
"If it is legalized surely it would bring more regulation and safety to the ppl who decide to work in the industry, Its proven there is a market for it. Ppls moral thinking is changing and I say legalize it and stop the stigma attached to it. I myself have never used ones services, actually I have never even seen a stripper but anything that can make things safer for ppl can only be a better way of life
There will always be a demand for the under the counter encounters though - teenagers in particular.
This could be classed as totally different topic. You can't class prostitution and paedophilia as the same."
I'm not. I'm talking about 16 year olds - 'worth' more than 18 year olds and in a regulated industry 18 might be the minimum age to work in the industry.
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By *icketysplitsWoman
over a year ago
Way over Yonder, that's where I'm bound |
"As some say, prostitution is legal. Selling sex or buying sex for money is legal in this country. Working in a brothel is legal, but running one is not. Selling sex on the streets is illegal though. We should smarten our laws and allow consenting adults do what they wish, and help protect women who may be vulnerable. There are moves to outlaw it, like in Sweden and elsewhere. Deal with trafficing of course, but that is a separate problem. She was a slightly annoying presenter, and it was almost tv for immature viewers."
BBC3 is aimed at a young audience.
I started a thread on the Nordic Model earlier, following the Woman's Hour programmes on this.
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By *nnyMan
over a year ago
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"I live in Edinburgh where there are licensed "massage parlours". everyone know that's where you go to pay for sex.
They pay the're taxes and the girls are safe from abuse.
Where as in Glasgow they are not allowed and you have a lot more drugs and violence issues. Personally I would much prefer for it to be de-criminalized for both the girls and guys as it's going to carry on anyway, plus you get taxes from the business. Everyone's A winner..
And no I haven't..
That's the way to go not in your face locations, monitored checks done and criminal elements kept out of it. "
The cops, in cahoots with the City Council, have decided its not the way to go.
They've realised they can't keep crime out of it so they're shutting them down. It puts working girls back on the street or working from flats. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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Frankly, whilst still illegal, prostitution seems to be tolerated by the police in most UK cities.....
That's not to say that street walking or kerb crawling is, but most have illicit brothels on main streets (though not on High streets).
I can only assume that these are "workers collectives" rather than places of "exploitation" though I don't know much more than that they are there. |
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By *razedcatMan
over a year ago
London / Herts |
I believe it's not so much the prostitution itself that, it its current state, has people morally offended, but the stereotypical offshoots of it. Prostitution is so often associated with drug and alcohol abuse, forms of organised crime, and on a more general level, misogyny, and an overall devaluation of sexual intimacy.
However, I'm very much of the opinion that when people have something kept away from them, they will either do everything in their power to obtain it, or their desire will manifest in other, sometimes more dangerous ways...So on that basis, I believe prostitution should be legalised and regulated. This would be much like the system in Germany. |
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By *imjohnCouple
over a year ago
Clacton on sea, Essex |
"Frankly, whilst still illegal, prostitution seems to be tolerated by the police in most UK cities.....
That's not to say that street walking or kerb crawling is, but most have illicit brothels on main streets (though not on High streets).
I can only assume that these are "workers collectives" rather than places of "exploitation" though I don't know much more than that they are there."
The act of prostitution is not illegal, John builds sites & shoots dozens of portfolios for escorts so we know its legal.
We have worked with the DWP & Tax office a few times to help close brothels which are illegal & rip the girls off.
We also help the GUM clinic in Colchester in talking to the girls / handing out leaflets about testing, most of the ladies we know even have liberty insurance against injury to them or their customers.
We don't agree with street walkers as this tarnishes the girls with the "most prostitutes are druggies" stigma, lots of councils are now setting up mobile police/medical units on industrial sites to get rid of the street walking problem which is working well.
The States & Australia have shown that this trade can be conducted right if given a fair chance. |
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By *imjohnCouple
over a year ago
Clacton on sea, Essex |
"And, of course, streetwalkers don't need websites or portfolios."
No but we like to put back into the industry at all levels, handing out leaflets & helping them with sexual health is a start for most streetwalkers.
Me & John have been on a few boards which have dealt in the adult industry problems, the industry got us known so its nice to use that notoriety to help others.
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"And, of course, streetwalkers don't need websites or portfolios.
No but we like to put back into the industry at all levels, handing out leaflets & helping them with sexual health is a start for most streetwalkers.
Me & John have been on a few boards which have dealt in the adult industry problems, the industry got us known so its nice to use that notoriety to help others.
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