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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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This is not a rant, just a confused chap here..
"No asian or black that is just my personal preference nothing racial"
I read profiles but often have to do ctrl F and do a keyword search for white, black, bbc, caucasian for the "dissertation" profiles just to make sure I'm not wasting my time.
Anyway how can a profile say no Asians or Black nothing racial. Unless my understanding of the English language is poor that statement is contradictory. As clearly it is racial because if I were white then the probability of a meet increases. Therefore, race does come into it. I come across such profiles and respect the ladies wishes but do wish the statement read
no asian or black that is just my personal preference.
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By *yrdwomanWoman
over a year ago
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According to Dictionary.com:
Racial - of, pertaining to, or characteristic of one race or the races of humankind.
So that sentence makes no sense. I assume they mean they're not RACIST for not wanting blacks or Asians. Anyway, who they meet or don't meet is their preference, however they put it. Concentrate on meeting people who have no 'racial' preferences, or who actually prefer blacks and Asians, like me.  |
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By *iewMan
over a year ago
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I think the same as I do when I read NO MEN, I take it that person is not interested in having sex with men.
I just move to the next profile.. 
I dare say there will be a minority that are racist & homophobic, I would be surprised if there were not, this site represents life & they exist. Swingers are no different.
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"According to Dictionary.com:
Racial - of, pertaining to, or characteristic of one race or the races of humankind.
So that sentence makes no sense. I assume they mean they're not RACIST for not wanting blacks or Asians. Anyway, who they meet or don't meet is their preference, however they put it. Concentrate on meeting people who have no 'racial' preferences, or who actually prefer blacks and Asians, like me. "
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By (user no longer on site)
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"This is not a rant, just a confused chap here..
"No asian or black that is just my personal preference nothing racial"
I read profiles but often have to do ctrl F and do a keyword search for white, black, bbc, caucasian for the "dissertation" profiles just to make sure I'm not wasting my time.
Anyway how can a profile say no Asians or Black nothing racial. Unless my understanding of the English language is poor that statement is contradictory. As clearly it is racial because if I were white then the probability of a meet increases. Therefore, race does come into it. I come across such profiles and respect the ladies wishes but do wish the statement read
no asian or black that is just my personal preference.
What are other distinguished members thoughts on this? "
Whatever the reasons people can talk to and shag who they want. Leave them to it equal opps does not apply to fucking. |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
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"This is not a rant, just a confused chap here..
"No asian or black that is just my personal preference nothing racial"
I read profiles but often have to do ctrl F and do a keyword search for white, black, bbc, caucasian for the "dissertation" profiles just to make sure I'm not wasting my time.
Anyway how can a profile say no Asians or Black nothing racial. Unless my understanding of the English language is poor that statement is contradictory. As clearly it is racial because if I were white then the probability of a meet increases. Therefore, race does come into it. I come across such profiles and respect the ladies wishes but do wish the statement read
no asian or black that is just my personal preference.
What are other distinguished members thoughts on this?
Whatever the reasons people can talk to and shag who they want. Leave them to it equal opps does not apply to fucking."
I concur. All I am saying is that statement doesn't make sense. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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The people who choose not to fuck Black or Asian people , may well have Black and Asian friends and treat them the same way as anyone else in their life .
So they are not racist at all are they ?
Any more than those who choose not to be bi or gay are homophobic .
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By *nnyMan
over a year ago
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"No asian or black that is just my personal preference nothing racial"
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There's no need for the "that is just my personal preference nothing racial"
Nobody need give any reason why they don't want to meet or fuck anyone. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"According to Dictionary.com:
Racial - of, pertaining to, or characteristic of one race or the races of humankind.
So that sentence makes no sense. I assume they mean they're not RACIST for not wanting blacks or Asians. Anyway, who they meet or don't meet is their preference, however they put it. Concentrate on meeting people who have no 'racial' preferences, or who actually prefer blacks and Asians, like me. "
Isn't prefering an enthnic group what these people are doing? So if they prefer a non-caucasian group they aren't racist then? |
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By *yrdwomanWoman
over a year ago
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"According to Dictionary.com:
Racial - of, pertaining to, or characteristic of one race or the races of humankind.
So that sentence makes no sense. I assume they mean they're not RACIST for not wanting blacks or Asians. Anyway, who they meet or don't meet is their preference, however they put it. Concentrate on meeting people who have no 'racial' preferences, or who actually prefer blacks and Asians, like me.
Isn't prefering an enthnic group what these people are doing? So if they prefer a non-caucasian group they aren't racist then?"
The sentence is therefore contradictory. They can't say no blacks or Asians if they are then pertaining to certain races. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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I can see what you're getting at OP, I think people probably feel that they need to justify what it is they want/are after or rather what they don't want and they just end up trying to be a bit too 'pc' about it but end up really getting it wrong!
Quite a few people just need to be less sensitive and perhaps other people wont feel the need to justify their preferences. |
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By *inaTitzTV/TS
over a year ago
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People like what they like, whether they say no Oxford Utd fans or members of the politburo of the People's Democratic Republic of Wallachia, they won't meet people they don't want, or types that don't appeal to them. On the one hand, at least they are letting you know, rather than just deleting any message.  |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"This is not a rant, just a confused chap here..
"No asian or black that is just my personal preference nothing racial"
I read profiles but often have to do ctrl F and do a keyword search for white, black, bbc, caucasian for the "dissertation" profiles just to make sure I'm not wasting my time.
Anyway how can a profile say no Asians or Black nothing racial. Unless my understanding of the English language is poor that statement is contradictory. As clearly it is racial because if I were white then the probability of a meet increases. Therefore, race does come into it. I come across such profiles and respect the ladies wishes but do wish the statement read
no asian or black that is just my personal preference.
What are other distinguished members thoughts on this?
Whatever the reasons people can talk to and shag who they want. Leave them to it equal opps does not apply to fucking.
I concur. All I am saying is that statement doesn't make sense. "
Neither does people with this on their profile messaging you but I have had a few  |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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It's a preference. And undoubtedly for some it also reflects a prejudice.
But as ever focussing on those who's preferences include rather than exclude you is a plan |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"According to Dictionary.com:
Racial - of, pertaining to, or characteristic of one race or the races of humankind.
So that sentence makes no sense. I assume they mean they're not RACIST for not wanting blacks or Asians. Anyway, who they meet or don't meet is their preference, however they put it. Concentrate on meeting people who have no 'racial' preferences, or who actually prefer blacks and Asians, like me.
Isn't prefering an enthnic group what these people are doing? So if they prefer a non-caucasian group they aren't racist then?"
In my case I adore very pale skin, milky white. My husband adores very black skin. For us these are likes but not mandatory for either of us but some people stick rigidly to what they like the most as they are entitled. I think people are worried that their preferences will be construed as racist and get themselves in an unnecessary tanlge of words. I think someone can be perceived as racist based on how they actually treat people, not badly written profile preferences.
For the record, we play with anyone we fancy but for hubby if Grace Jones is on Fab and for me Chris Ecclestone then give us a wink.lol. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"This is not a rant, just a confused chap here..
"No asian or black that is just my personal preference nothing racial"
I read profiles but often have to do ctrl F and do a keyword search for white, black, bbc, caucasian for the "dissertation" profiles just to make sure I'm not wasting my time.
Anyway how can a profile say no Asians or Black nothing racial. Unless my understanding of the English language is poor that statement is contradictory. As clearly it is racial because if I were white then the probability of a meet increases. Therefore, race does come into it. I come across such profiles and respect the ladies wishes but do wish the statement read
no asian or black that is just my personal preference.
What are other distinguished members thoughts on this? "
Because if don't add it on end, often get accused of being racist for a preference, something I've been accused of many a time, before I completely removed all my profile text |
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By (user no longer on site)
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I am not racist however i no longer meet black or asian men due to some truly dreadful meets with black and asian men, hence i now stick to only meeting white men |
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By (user no longer on site)
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I don't have to much to add, more of a comment really... But We've had at least 5 messages since joining now from people saying no blacks or etc.... i figure its a mistake because I always read profiles before I comment back. Now I'm never rude more confused and more than once I've been told that I'd be an exception to their rules....  thanks but no thanks
Different strokes for different folks I guess lol |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"I don't have to much to add, more of a comment really... But We've had at least 5 messages since joining now from people saying no blacks or etc.... i figure its a mistake because I always read profiles before I comment back. Now I'm never rude more confused and more than once I've been told that I'd be an exception to their rules.... thanks but no thanks
Different strokes for different folks I guess lol"
I presume these people were women? Never seen a guys profoile saying no asian or blacks |
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No. There is a difference between the meanings there. Racism is discrimination based on race. Homophobia is fear of homosexuals.
Acceptable in the context or not, saying you do not want to have sex with a particular race of people is racist. It is discriminating based on race. Now it is a different argument as to whether that is socially acceptable or not and this is in no way indicating a bias in that discussion. (That will come at the end)
Saying you do not want to sleep with a homosexual is not necessarily homophobia. It is discrimination but it may not necessarily be based on fear.
I personally do not see how you can write off an entire race of people based on their race or skin colour. People are not defined by their skin colour and there are such varied physical appearances in every race that there will be something for everyone. Surely life is better if you do not rule anything out totally? |
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"No. There is a difference between the meanings there. Racism is discrimination based on race. Homophobia is fear of homosexuals.
Acceptable in the context or not, saying you do not want to have sex with a particular race of people is racist. It is discriminating based on race. Now it is a different argument as to whether that is socially acceptable or not and this is in no way indicating a bias in that discussion. (That will come at the end)
Saying you do not want to sleep with a homosexual is not necessarily homophobia. It is discrimination but it may not necessarily be based on fear.
I personally do not see how you can write off an entire race of people based on their race or skin colour. People are not defined by their skin colour and there are such varied physical appearances in every race that there will be something for everyone. Surely life is better if you do not rule anything out totally?"
Because sexual attraction encompasses a physical aspect (usually) and it's not for you or anyone else to say what should make someones cock hard or pussy wet.
And saying there is something for everyone in any race is just silly, if you have a love of blonde hair you're not going to get that with black or Asian people clearly. Likewise if you like the way very dark skin looks you're unlikely to find it with caucasians.
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"No. There is a difference between the meanings there. Racism is discrimination based on race. Homophobia is fear of homosexuals.
Acceptable in the context or not, saying you do not want to have sex with a particular race of people is racist. It is discriminating based on race. Now it is a different argument as to whether that is socially acceptable or not and this is in no way indicating a bias in that discussion. (That will come at the end)
Saying you do not want to sleep with a homosexual is not necessarily homophobia. It is discrimination but it may not necessarily be based on fear.
I personally do not see how you can write off an entire race of people based on their race or skin colour. People are not defined by their skin colour and there are such varied physical appearances in every race that there will be something for everyone. Surely life is better if you do not rule anything out totally?"
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By (user no longer on site)
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I presume these people were women? Never seen a guys profoile saying no asian or blacks "
I have. Infact I recall an ex forum user openly admitting that his "preference" was also to not meet women who met balck or asian men |
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Yes. You are right. Unlikely. But you cannot rule it out. Just like having a bad experience with a black person does not mean all black people are risky. How many bad experiences with your own race would it take to rule them out? A lot more I suspect.
Everyone is entitled to their preferences. Andy is Scottish and prefers pale skinned girls like you get in Scotland. However there are some incredibly sexy Indian girls, Ivorian girls etc.
My argument is not about not being allowed to have a preference. But if you rule everyone of a race out , you are discriminating. It is true by definition. The problem is people hate being associated with the word discrimination. They apply to it's meaning but try to fudge things by saying it is a preference.
If am employer preferred Chinese employees over any other race because in that employer's experience they were better at that particular job, would ruling out employing non chinese people not be racist? |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Yes. You are right. Unlikely. But you cannot rule it out. Just like having a bad experience with a black person does not mean all black people are risky. How many bad experiences with your own race would it take to rule them out? A lot more I suspect.
Everyone is entitled to their preferences. Andy is Scottish and prefers pale skinned girls like you get in Scotland. However there are some incredibly sexy Indian girls, Ivorian girls etc.
My argument is not about not being allowed to have a preference. But if you rule everyone of a race out , you are discriminating. It is true by definition. The problem is people hate being associated with the word discrimination. They apply to it's meaning but try to fudge things by saying it is a preference.
If am employer preferred Chinese employees over any other race because in that employer's experience they were better at that particular job, would ruling out employing non chinese people not be racist?"
I can't answer this because it doesn't apply to me but if someone wants to have a very narrow scope of physical types that's their choice and not for you and I to worry that they're limiting their experience, we all do in different way, I don't do fisting, don't do beards. It's nothing like employment, that's equal opportunity based on fairness, there is nothing fair about who gets us sexually aroused. It's ridiculous to equate the two. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"This is not a rant, just a confused chap here..
"No asian or black that is just my personal preference nothing racial"
I read profiles but often have to do ctrl F and do a keyword search for white, black, bbc, caucasian for the "dissertation" profiles just to make sure I'm not wasting my time.
Anyway how can a profile say no Asians or Black nothing racial. Unless my understanding of the English language is poor that statement is contradictory. As clearly it is racial because if I were white then the probability of a meet increases. Therefore, race does come into it. I come across such profiles and respect the ladies wishes but do wish the statement read
no asian or black that is just my personal preference.
What are other distinguished members thoughts on this? "
Perhaps you could report them to the Race Relations Board and force them to meet you or else they will face imprisonment and a large fine. Knowing how the law works in this country you have a good chance of success. |
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"Yes. You are right. Unlikely. But you cannot rule it out. Just like having a bad experience with a black person does not mean all black people are risky. How many bad experiences with your own race would it take to rule them out? A lot more I suspect.
Everyone is entitled to their preferences. Andy is Scottish and prefers pale skinned girls like you get in Scotland. However there are some incredibly sexy Indian girls, Ivorian girls etc.
My argument is not about not being allowed to have a preference. But if you rule everyone of a race out , you are discriminating. It is true by definition. The problem is people hate being associated with the word discrimination. They apply to it's meaning but try to fudge things by saying it is a preference.
If am employer preferred Chinese employees over any other race because in that employer's experience they were better at that particular job, would ruling out employing non chinese people not be racist?
I can't answer this because it doesn't apply to me but if someone wants to have a very narrow scope of physical types that's their choice and not for you and I to worry that they're limiting their experience, we all do in different way, I don't do fisting, don't do beards. It's nothing like employment, that's equal opportunity based on fairness, there is nothing fair about who gets us sexually aroused. It's ridiculous to equate the two."
You are completely mis-understanding my point.
I agree with you totally that what you like is what you like. It is the refusal to entertain the idea that there may be someone out there for you that is needless. Everyone is entitled to their choice and I have said that repeatedly. However if you discriminate, you are guilty of discrimination. That fact is indisputable. It is a matter for each person to decide if that is acceptable or not. Just because you don't like the word does not mean it does not apply.
I then asked the question of how a person can be qualified to say that they are able to say for certainty that all people of a certain race are not for them. Have they checked each and everyone?
My personal _iew is that to rule anything out like that is limiting yourself potentially and therefore sad. Vive le difference as people imitating French people would say. |
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"This is not a rant, just a confused chap here..
"No asian or black that is just my personal preference nothing racial"
I read profiles but often have to do ctrl F and do a keyword search for white, black, bbc, caucasian for the "dissertation" profiles just to make sure I'm not wasting my time.
Anyway how can a profile say no Asians or Black nothing racial. Unless my understanding of the English language is poor that statement is contradictory. As clearly it is racial because if I were white then the probability of a meet increases. Therefore, race does come into it. I come across such profiles and respect the ladies wishes but do wish the statement read
no asian or black that is just my personal preference.
What are other distinguished members thoughts on this?
Whatever the reasons people can talk to and shag who they want. Leave them to it equal opps does not apply to fucking."
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"If am employer preferred Chinese employees over any other race because in that employer's experience they were better at that particular job, would ruling out employing non chinese people not be racist?"
Hm. It would be silly to expect every Chinese person to be as good at that job just because they're Chinese. And so would not every non-Chinese person by definition be crap at it. It's best to keep a broad mind and your options open. And do something against the grain every now and then - you might be pleasantly surprised.
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"If am employer preferred Chinese employees over any other race because in that employer's experience they were better at that particular job, would ruling out employing non chinese people not be racist?
Hm. It would be silly to expect every Chinese person to be as good at that job just because they're Chinese. And so would not every non-Chinese person by definition be crap at it. It's best to keep a broad mind and your options open. And do something against the grain every now and then - you might be pleasantly surprised.
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Those people are obviously just saying that they don't want to fuck certain ethnic groups which is fine, each to their own, what they meant by not racial is probably they are not racist, however they are probably either illiterate or not very well educated in the English language and do not understand the grammar they have used or they may not be English and do t know the word to use. Just common sense really, personally all that puts me off anyway. |
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"Yes. You are right. Unlikely. But you cannot rule it out. Just like having a bad experience with a black person does not mean all black people are risky. How many bad experiences with your own race would it take to rule them out? A lot more I suspect.
Everyone is entitled to their preferences. Andy is Scottish and prefers pale skinned girls like you get in Scotland. However there are some incredibly sexy Indian girls, Ivorian girls etc.
My argument is not about not being allowed to have a preference. But if you rule everyone of a race out , you are discriminating. It is true by definition. The problem is people hate being associated with the word discrimination. They apply to it's meaning but try to fudge things by saying it is a preference.
If am employer preferred Chinese employees over any other race because in that employer's experience they were better at that particular job, would ruling out employing non chinese people not be racist?
I can't answer this because it doesn't apply to me but if someone wants to have a very narrow scope of physical types that's their choice and not for you and I to worry that they're limiting their experience, we all do in different way, I don't do fisting, don't do beards. It's nothing like employment, that's equal opportunity based on fairness, there is nothing fair about who gets us sexually aroused. It's ridiculous to equate the two.
You are completely mis-understanding my point.
I agree with you totally that what you like is what you like. It is the refusal to entertain the idea that there may be someone out there for you that is needless. Everyone is entitled to their choice and I have said that repeatedly. However if you discriminate, you are guilty of discrimination. That fact is indisputable. It is a matter for each person to decide if that is acceptable or not. Just because you don't like the word does not mean it does not apply.
I then asked the question of how a person can be qualified to say that they are able to say for certainty that all people of a certain race are not for them. Have they checked each and everyone?
My personal _iew is that to rule anything out like that is limiting yourself potentially and therefore sad. Vive le difference as people imitating French people would say."
No I fully understand you and I maintain my stance, it's not for me to try to force others through emotive words to shag someone they've said they don't want to. Sad maybe but not your 'wrong' to right.
Just like there are a raft of BBC lovers, BBW lovers, whites who only shag blacks and blacks who only shag whites.
It's fucking, it's not employment and many of our kinks and preferences are set in childhood.
It's so silly to harp on about racism and discrimination without having any idea what is behind a persons desires, the person who has 'black only' or 'white only' isn't suddenly going to say, you know what you're right, I'll shag a white girl today. You enjoy your wide range of possibilities and I will mine and don't worry about trying to fix the world one swinger at a time. |
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"I don't have to much to add, more of a comment really... But We've had at least 5 messages since joining now from people saying no blacks or etc.... i figure its a mistake because I always read profiles before I comment back. Now I'm never rude more confused and more than once I've been told that I'd be an exception to their rules.... thanks but no thanks
Different strokes for different folks I guess lol
I presume these people were women? Never seen a guys profoile saying no asian or blacks "
Actually some were guys.... You'd be surprised. Couples as well. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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It's about personal choice. You don't have to be prejudiced to not find someone attractive. I'm not homophobic but I still won't let a man fuck me nor do I want to receive messages from keen men on this site. I respect peoples choices and am flattered some show interest but it's not what I'm here for |
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"Yes. You are right. Unlikely. But you cannot rule it out. Just like having a bad experience with a black person does not mean all black people are risky. How many bad experiences with your own race would it take to rule them out? A lot more I suspect.
Everyone is entitled to their preferences. Andy is Scottish and prefers pale skinned girls like you get in Scotland. However there are some incredibly sexy Indian girls, Ivorian girls etc.
My argument is not about not being allowed to have a preference. But if you rule everyone of a race out , you are discriminating. It is true by definition. The problem is people hate being associated with the word discrimination. They apply to it's meaning but try to fudge things by saying it is a preference.
If am employer preferred Chinese employees over any other race because in that employer's experience they were better at that particular job, would ruling out employing non chinese people not be racist?
I can't answer this because it doesn't apply to me but if someone wants to have a very narrow scope of physical types that's their choice and not for you and I to worry that they're limiting their experience, we all do in different way, I don't do fisting, don't do beards. It's nothing like employment, that's equal opportunity based on fairness, there is nothing fair about who gets us sexually aroused. It's ridiculous to equate the two.
You are completely mis-understanding my point.
I agree with you totally that what you like is what you like. It is the refusal to entertain the idea that there may be someone out there for you that is needless. Everyone is entitled to their choice and I have said that repeatedly. However if you discriminate, you are guilty of discrimination. That fact is indisputable. It is a matter for each person to decide if that is acceptable or not. Just because you don't like the word does not mean it does not apply.
I then asked the question of how a person can be qualified to say that they are able to say for certainty that all people of a certain race are not for them. Have they checked each and everyone?
My personal _iew is that to rule anything out like that is limiting yourself potentially and therefore sad. Vive le difference as people imitating French people would say.
No I fully understand you and I maintain my stance, it's not for me to try to force others through emotive words to shag someone they've said they don't want to. Sad maybe but not your 'wrong' to right.
Just like there are a raft of BBC lovers, BBW lovers, whites who only shag blacks and blacks who only shag whites.
It's fucking, it's not employment and many of our kinks and preferences are set in childhood.
It's so silly to harp on about racism and discrimination without having any idea what is behind a persons desires, the person who has 'black only' or 'white only' isn't suddenly going to say, you know what you're right, I'll shag a white girl today. You enjoy your wide range of possibilities and I will mine and don't worry about trying to fix the world one swinger at a time."
I will try this one more time.
Having preferences is fine. However it is still discrimination. By definition, preferring one thing to another is discrimination. Putting aside entirely what is right or wrong.
However, to refuse to entertain the notion of a particular group seems wasteful to me. I am not saying you must have someone of each and every type. My point simply is this: why refuse to even look at someone? It costs nothing and you might just surprise yourself.
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I discriminate and I demonstrate prejudice.... big deal.
I demonstrate prejudice because I prejudge that I will not find Asian guys sexually appealing.... some 30 odd years of being sexually active backs this theory up, but it is just a theory nonetheless.
I also discriminate and prejudge people by their height and age. I discriminate against guys if they have a gut the size of my own.
I do not believe any of these people are any less of a person than me because of their physical appearance or that the races to which we belong can be ranked as inherently superior or inferior.
I have not had a bad experience with Asian guys... nor short, pot bellied, old white guys.... yet I discriminate based on past experience of what I have found aesthetically appealing.
If some people confuse this as racism, it is down to their ignorance not mine.
If anyone thinks this unfair and would not be acceptable in the rest of society, may I suggest you ring up your local theatre just before panto season and ask if a 4'2" middle-aged Asian dude should bother applying for the part of Cinderella. If you get an audition I'll consider shagging ya'.
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"Yes. You are right. Unlikely. But you cannot rule it out. Just like having a bad experience with a black person does not mean all black people are risky. How many bad experiences with your own race would it take to rule them out? A lot more I suspect.
Everyone is entitled to their preferences. Andy is Scottish and prefers pale skinned girls like you get in Scotland. However there are some incredibly sexy Indian girls, Ivorian girls etc.
My argument is not about not being allowed to have a preference. But if you rule everyone of a race out , you are discriminating. It is true by definition. The problem is people hate being associated with the word discrimination. They apply to it's meaning but try to fudge things by saying it is a preference.
If am employer preferred Chinese employees over any other race because in that employer's experience they were better at that particular job, would ruling out employing non chinese people not be racist?
I can't answer this because it doesn't apply to me but if someone wants to have a very narrow scope of physical types that's their choice and not for you and I to worry that they're limiting their experience, we all do in different way, I don't do fisting, don't do beards. It's nothing like employment, that's equal opportunity based on fairness, there is nothing fair about who gets us sexually aroused. It's ridiculous to equate the two.
You are completely mis-understanding my point.
I agree with you totally that what you like is what you like. It is the refusal to entertain the idea that there may be someone out there for you that is needless. Everyone is entitled to their choice and I have said that repeatedly. However if you discriminate, you are guilty of discrimination. That fact is indisputable. It is a matter for each person to decide if that is acceptable or not. Just because you don't like the word does not mean it does not apply.
I then asked the question of how a person can be qualified to say that they are able to say for certainty that all people of a certain race are not for them. Have they checked each and everyone?
My personal _iew is that to rule anything out like that is limiting yourself potentially and therefore sad. Vive le difference as people imitating French people would say.
No I fully understand you and I maintain my stance, it's not for me to try to force others through emotive words to shag someone they've said they don't want to. Sad maybe but not your 'wrong' to right.
Just like there are a raft of BBC lovers, BBW lovers, whites who only shag blacks and blacks who only shag whites.
It's fucking, it's not employment and many of our kinks and preferences are set in childhood.
It's so silly to harp on about racism and discrimination without having any idea what is behind a persons desires, the person who has 'black only' or 'white only' isn't suddenly going to say, you know what you're right, I'll shag a white girl today. You enjoy your wide range of possibilities and I will mine and don't worry about trying to fix the world one swinger at a time.
I will try this one more time.
Having preferences is fine. However it is still discrimination. By definition, preferring one thing to another is discrimination. Putting aside entirely what is right or wrong.
However, to refuse to entertain the notion of a particular group seems wasteful to me. I am not saying you must have someone of each and every type. My point simply is this: why refuse to even look at someone? It costs nothing and you might just surprise yourself.
Simple."
It's simple to answer your point .
Experience teaches each and every one of us as to where our preferences lie .
In everything in our lives , from our taste in food , drink , what car we drive and when we have experienced some time in the swinging world , our playmates .
To say that eliminating a whole race is missing potential fulfilling experience is like saying a vegetarian is missing the potential pleasure of a steak .
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"Yes. You are right. Unlikely. But you cannot rule it out. Just like having a bad experience with a black person does not mean all black people are risky. How many bad experiences with your own race would it take to rule them out? A lot more I suspect.
Everyone is entitled to their preferences. Andy is Scottish and prefers pale skinned girls like you get in Scotland. However there are some incredibly sexy Indian girls, Ivorian girls etc.
My argument is not about not being allowed to have a preference. But if you rule everyone of a race out , you are discriminating. It is true by definition. The problem is people hate being associated with the word discrimination. They apply to it's meaning but try to fudge things by saying it is a preference.
If am employer preferred Chinese employees over any other race because in that employer's experience they were better at that particular job, would ruling out employing non chinese people not be racist?
I can't answer this because it doesn't apply to me but if someone wants to have a very narrow scope of physical types that's their choice and not for you and I to worry that they're limiting their experience, we all do in different way, I don't do fisting, don't do beards. It's nothing like employment, that's equal opportunity based on fairness, there is nothing fair about who gets us sexually aroused. It's ridiculous to equate the two.
You are completely mis-understanding my point.
I agree with you totally that what you like is what you like. It is the refusal to entertain the idea that there may be someone out there for you that is needless. Everyone is entitled to their choice and I have said that repeatedly. However if you discriminate, you are guilty of discrimination. That fact is indisputable. It is a matter for each person to decide if that is acceptable or not. Just because you don't like the word does not mean it does not apply.
I then asked the question of how a person can be qualified to say that they are able to say for certainty that all people of a certain race are not for them. Have they checked each and everyone?
My personal _iew is that to rule anything out like that is limiting yourself potentially and therefore sad. Vive le difference as people imitating French people would say.
No I fully understand you and I maintain my stance, it's not for me to try to force others through emotive words to shag someone they've said they don't want to. Sad maybe but not your 'wrong' to right.
Just like there are a raft of BBC lovers, BBW lovers, whites who only shag blacks and blacks who only shag whites.
It's fucking, it's not employment and many of our kinks and preferences are set in childhood.
It's so silly to harp on about racism and discrimination without having any idea what is behind a persons desires, the person who has 'black only' or 'white only' isn't suddenly going to say, you know what you're right, I'll shag a white girl today. You enjoy your wide range of possibilities and I will mine and don't worry about trying to fix the world one swinger at a time.
I will try this one more time.
Having preferences is fine. However it is still discrimination. By definition, preferring one thing to another is discrimination. Putting aside entirely what is right or wrong.
However, to refuse to entertain the notion of a particular group seems wasteful to me. I am not saying you must have someone of each and every type. My point simply is this: why refuse to even look at someone? It costs nothing and you might just surprise yourself.
Simple."
You don't have to deign to condescend, I get your point (and why you use emotive language knowing full well that the words discrimination and racist will either upset of inflame) but why do you need to be concerned that someone else only gets aroused (or wants to get aroused) by a certain physical type??
Why?
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Experience teaches each and every one of us as to where our preferences lie .
In everything in our lives , from our taste in food , drink , what car we drive and when we have experienced some time in the swinging world , our playmates .
To say that eliminating a whole race is missing potential fulfilling experience is like saying a vegetarian is missing the potential pleasure of a steak .
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"I discriminate and I demonstrate prejudice.... big deal.
I demonstrate prejudice because I prejudge that I will not find Asian guys sexually appealing.... some 30 odd years of being sexually active backs this theory up, but it is just a theory nonetheless.
I also discriminate and prejudge people by their height and age. I discriminate against guys if they have a gut the size of my own.
I do not believe any of these people are any less of a person than me because of their physical appearance or that the races to which we belong can be ranked as inherently superior or inferior.
I have not had a bad experience with Asian guys... nor short, pot bellied, old white guys.... yet I discriminate based on past experience of what I have found aesthetically appealing.
If some people confuse this as racism, it is down to their ignorance not mine.
If anyone thinks this unfair and would not be acceptable in the rest of society, may I suggest you ring up your local theatre just before panto season and ask if a 4'2" middle-aged Asian dude should bother applying for the part of Cinderella. If you get an audition I'll consider shagging ya'.
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I presume these people were women? Never seen a guys profoile saying no asian or blacks
I have. Infact I recall an ex forum user openly admitting that his "preference" was also to not meet women who met balck or asian men"
Blimey. Do you think he was picky about blood transfusions too? This sort of nonsense really annoys me. Where's the "annoyed" emoticon? |
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"Yes. You are right. Unlikely. But you cannot rule it out. Just like having a bad experience with a black person does not mean all black people are risky. How many bad experiences with your own race would it take to rule them out? A lot more I suspect.
Everyone is entitled to their preferences. Andy is Scottish and prefers pale skinned girls like you get in Scotland. However there are some incredibly sexy Indian girls, Ivorian girls etc.
My argument is not about not being allowed to have a preference. But if you rule everyone of a race out , you are discriminating. It is true by definition. The problem is people hate being associated with the word discrimination. They apply to it's meaning but try to fudge things by saying it is a preference.
If am employer preferred Chinese employees over any other race because in that employer's experience they were better at that particular job, would ruling out employing non chinese people not be racist?
I can't answer this because it doesn't apply to me but if someone wants to have a very narrow scope of physical types that's their choice and not for you and I to worry that they're limiting their experience, we all do in different way, I don't do fisting, don't do beards. It's nothing like employment, that's equal opportunity based on fairness, there is nothing fair about who gets us sexually aroused. It's ridiculous to equate the two.
You are completely mis-understanding my point.
I agree with you totally that what you like is what you like. It is the refusal to entertain the idea that there may be someone out there for you that is needless. Everyone is entitled to their choice and I have said that repeatedly. However if you discriminate, you are guilty of discrimination. That fact is indisputable. It is a matter for each person to decide if that is acceptable or not. Just because you don't like the word does not mean it does not apply.
I then asked the question of how a person can be qualified to say that they are able to say for certainty that all people of a certain race are not for them. Have they checked each and everyone?
My personal _iew is that to rule anything out like that is limiting yourself potentially and therefore sad. Vive le difference as people imitating French people would say.
No I fully understand you and I maintain my stance, it's not for me to try to force others through emotive words to shag someone they've said they don't want to. Sad maybe but not your 'wrong' to right.
Just like there are a raft of BBC lovers, BBW lovers, whites who only shag blacks and blacks who only shag whites.
It's fucking, it's not employment and many of our kinks and preferences are set in childhood.
It's so silly to harp on about racism and discrimination without having any idea what is behind a persons desires, the person who has 'black only' or 'white only' isn't suddenly going to say, you know what you're right, I'll shag a white girl today. You enjoy your wide range of possibilities and I will mine and don't worry about trying to fix the world one swinger at a time.
I will try this one more time.
Having preferences is fine. However it is still discrimination. By definition, preferring one thing to another is discrimination. Putting aside entirely what is right or wrong.
However, to refuse to entertain the notion of a particular group seems wasteful to me. I am not saying you must have someone of each and every type. My point simply is this: why refuse to even look at someone? It costs nothing and you might just surprise yourself.
Simple.
You don't have to deign to condescend, I get your point (and why you use emotive language knowing full well that the words discrimination and racist will either upset of inflame) but why do you need to be concerned that someone else only gets aroused (or wants to get aroused) by a certain physical type??
Why?
Do you have such concern for those who don't want to try say a DP as they're missing out and try to guilt them in to trying it? Or someone who loves hairy men? Highly unlikely. Let it go."
I am not using emotive language. I am simply discussing the topic. I was also mentioning that people are happy to discriminate (as is their right) but don't like to be told that is what they are doing. You have proven my point there. We are agreeing on 95% of this. I am confused as to the animosity.
I am also not saying that people should do things they do not want to. But consideration to all things at all times does not hurt anyone. Does not mean they have to actually do it.
Please stop ignoring that point in my argument as it seems like you are simply trying to argue for arguments sake. I know that is not the case but you are repeatedly missing an important bit. |
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There is a 'woman' here with NO WELSH on her profile, I didn't feel that was racial or is race only to do with colour.
For all we know there could be a profile with NO WHITE'S.
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It's a shame that people feel they have to justify a personal preference, no matter what colour/size/sexuality/height/weight/ethnicity etc. A sad indictment of the times we live in.  |
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"Yes. You are right. Unlikely. But you cannot rule it out. Just like having a bad experience with a black person does not mean all black people are risky. How many bad experiences with your own race would it take to rule them out? A lot more I suspect.
Everyone is entitled to their preferences. Andy is Scottish and prefers pale skinned girls like you get in Scotland. However there are some incredibly sexy Indian girls, Ivorian girls etc.
My argument is not about not being allowed to have a preference. But if you rule everyone of a race out , you are discriminating. It is true by definition. The problem is people hate being associated with the word discrimination. They apply to it's meaning but try to fudge things by saying it is a preference.
If am employer preferred Chinese employees over any other race because in that employer's experience they were better at that particular job, would ruling out employing non chinese people not be racist?
I can't answer this because it doesn't apply to me but if someone wants to have a very narrow scope of physical types that's their choice and not for you and I to worry that they're limiting their experience, we all do in different way, I don't do fisting, don't do beards. It's nothing like employment, that's equal opportunity based on fairness, there is nothing fair about who gets us sexually aroused. It's ridiculous to equate the two.
You are completely mis-understanding my point.
I agree with you totally that what you like is what you like. It is the refusal to entertain the idea that there may be someone out there for you that is needless. Everyone is entitled to their choice and I have said that repeatedly. However if you discriminate, you are guilty of discrimination. That fact is indisputable. It is a matter for each person to decide if that is acceptable or not. Just because you don't like the word does not mean it does not apply.
I then asked the question of how a person can be qualified to say that they are able to say for certainty that all people of a certain race are not for them. Have they checked each and everyone?
My personal _iew is that to rule anything out like that is limiting yourself potentially and therefore sad. Vive le difference as people imitating French people would say.
No I fully understand you and I maintain my stance, it's not for me to try to force others through emotive words to shag someone they've said they don't want to. Sad maybe but not your 'wrong' to right.
Just like there are a raft of BBC lovers, BBW lovers, whites who only shag blacks and blacks who only shag whites.
It's fucking, it's not employment and many of our kinks and preferences are set in childhood.
It's so silly to harp on about racism and discrimination without having any idea what is behind a persons desires, the person who has 'black only' or 'white only' isn't suddenly going to say, you know what you're right, I'll shag a white girl today. You enjoy your wide range of possibilities and I will mine and don't worry about trying to fix the world one swinger at a time.
I will try this one more time.
Having preferences is fine. However it is still discrimination. By definition, preferring one thing to another is discrimination. Putting aside entirely what is right or wrong.
However, to refuse to entertain the notion of a particular group seems wasteful to me. I am not saying you must have someone of each and every type. My point simply is this: why refuse to even look at someone? It costs nothing and you might just surprise yourself.
Simple.
You don't have to deign to condescend, I get your point (and why you use emotive language knowing full well that the words discrimination and racist will either upset of inflame) but why do you need to be concerned that someone else only gets aroused (or wants to get aroused) by a certain physical type??
Why?
Do you have such concern for those who don't want to try say a DP as they're missing out and try to guilt them in to trying it? Or someone who loves hairy men? Highly unlikely. Let it go.
I am not using emotive language. I am simply discussing the topic. I was also mentioning that people are happy to discriminate (as is their right) but don't like to be told that is what they are doing. You have proven my point there. We are agreeing on 95% of this. I am confused as to the animosity.
I am also not saying that people should do things they do not want to. But consideration to all things at all times does not hurt anyone. Does not mean they have to actually do it.
Please stop ignoring that point in my argument as it seems like you are simply trying to argue for arguments sake. I know that is not the case but you are repeatedly missing an important bit. "
"Acceptable in the context or not, saying you do not want to have sex with a particular race of people is racist."
This is emotive.
I don't find very large men attractive and I will not engage in a sexual act with one because it would not arouse me - ever, however my best friend is a large man. Am I therefore fattist? |
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"Yes. You are right. Unlikely. But you cannot rule it out. Just like having a bad experience with a black person does not mean all black people are risky. How many bad experiences with your own race would it take to rule them out? A lot more I suspect.
Everyone is entitled to their preferences. Andy is Scottish and prefers pale skinned girls like you get in Scotland. However there are some incredibly sexy Indian girls, Ivorian girls etc.
My argument is not about not being allowed to have a preference. But if you rule everyone of a race out , you are discriminating. It is true by definition. The problem is people hate being associated with the word discrimination. They apply to it's meaning but try to fudge things by saying it is a preference.
If am employer preferred Chinese employees over any other race because in that employer's experience they were better at that particular job, would ruling out employing non chinese people not be racist?
I can't answer this because it doesn't apply to me but if someone wants to have a very narrow scope of physical types that's their choice and not for you and I to worry that they're limiting their experience, we all do in different way, I don't do fisting, don't do beards. It's nothing like employment, that's equal opportunity based on fairness, there is nothing fair about who gets us sexually aroused. It's ridiculous to equate the two.
You are completely mis-understanding my point.
I agree with you totally that what you like is what you like. It is the refusal to entertain the idea that there may be someone out there for you that is needless. Everyone is entitled to their choice and I have said that repeatedly. However if you discriminate, you are guilty of discrimination. That fact is indisputable. It is a matter for each person to decide if that is acceptable or not. Just because you don't like the word does not mean it does not apply.
I then asked the question of how a person can be qualified to say that they are able to say for certainty that all people of a certain race are not for them. Have they checked each and everyone?
My personal _iew is that to rule anything out like that is limiting yourself potentially and therefore sad. Vive le difference as people imitating French people would say.
No I fully understand you and I maintain my stance, it's not for me to try to force others through emotive words to shag someone they've said they don't want to. Sad maybe but not your 'wrong' to right.
Just like there are a raft of BBC lovers, BBW lovers, whites who only shag blacks and blacks who only shag whites.
It's fucking, it's not employment and many of our kinks and preferences are set in childhood.
It's so silly to harp on about racism and discrimination without having any idea what is behind a persons desires, the person who has 'black only' or 'white only' isn't suddenly going to say, you know what you're right, I'll shag a white girl today. You enjoy your wide range of possibilities and I will mine and don't worry about trying to fix the world one swinger at a time.
I will try this one more time.
Having preferences is fine. However it is still discrimination. By definition, preferring one thing to another is discrimination. Putting aside entirely what is right or wrong.
However, to refuse to entertain the notion of a particular group seems wasteful to me. I am not saying you must have someone of each and every type. My point simply is this: why refuse to even look at someone? It costs nothing and you might just surprise yourself.
Simple.
You don't have to deign to condescend, I get your point (and why you use emotive language knowing full well that the words discrimination and racist will either upset of inflame) but why do you need to be concerned that someone else only gets aroused (or wants to get aroused) by a certain physical type??
Why?
Do you have such concern for those who don't want to try say a DP as they're missing out and try to guilt them in to trying it? Or someone who loves hairy men? Highly unlikely. Let it go.
I am not using emotive language. I am simply discussing the topic. I was also mentioning that people are happy to discriminate (as is their right) but don't like to be told that is what they are doing. You have proven my point there. We are agreeing on 95% of this. I am confused as to the animosity.
I am also not saying that people should do things they do not want to. But consideration to all things at all times does not hurt anyone. Does not mean they have to actually do it.
Please stop ignoring that point in my argument as it seems like you are simply trying to argue for arguments sake. I know that is not the case but you are repeatedly missing an important bit.
"Acceptable in the context or not, saying you do not want to have sex with a particular race of people is racist."
This is emotive.
I don't find very large men attractive and I will not engage in a sexual act with one because it would not arouse me - ever, however my best friend is a large man. Am I therefore fattist?"
If the definition of fattist is discrimination on the basis of fatness, yes. It does not mean you are morally wrong to do so. It is your choice.
It does not have to be emotive. I am discussing this entirely dispassionately and a good argument should always be dispassionate, otherwise how can you possibly appraise other points of _iew fairly and with an open mind? |
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"It's a shame that people feel they have to justify a personal preference, no matter what colour/size/sexuality/height/weight/ethnicity etc. A sad indictment of the times we live in. "
People should not, in this context of sexual preference, have to justify themselves. However they are responsible for presenting that preference in such a way as not to appear prejudiced, ignorant or offensive. With the right to choose comes the responsibility to choose wisely. |
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"It's a shame that people feel they have to justify a personal preference, no matter what colour/size/sexuality/height/weight/ethnicity etc. A sad indictment of the times we live in.
People should not, in this context of sexual preference, have to justify themselves. However they are responsible for presenting that preference in such a way as not to appear prejudiced, ignorant or offensive. With the right to choose comes the responsibility to choose wisely."
With the right to choose comes the responsibility to choose wisely ?
If one prefers not to play with fat people , it's all three 'offences' to fat people , so what's the wise choice ?
Same as anyone over a certain age , you become ageist ?
You seem very well versed in the rights and wrongs on this subject , can you explain the meaning of choosing wisely ?
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"It's a shame that people feel they have to justify a personal preference, no matter what colour/size/sexuality/height/weight/ethnicity etc. A sad indictment of the times we live in.
People should not, in this context of sexual preference, have to justify themselves. However they are responsible for presenting that preference in such a way as not to appear prejudiced, ignorant or offensive. With the right to choose comes the responsibility to choose wisely.
With the right to choose comes the responsibility to choose wisely ?
If one prefers not to play with fat people , it's all three 'offences' to fat people , so what's the wise choice ?
Same as anyone over a certain age , you become ageist ?
You seem very well versed in the rights and wrongs on this subject , can you explain the meaning of choosing wisely ?
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Yes, choose as you wish, but try not to say clumsy offensive things. You suggest that sometimes you cannot help but offend some people, I would say that is right. Some people are difficult not to offend. But just be nice and open minded and not negative.
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"It's a shame that people feel they have to justify a personal preference, no matter what colour/size/sexuality/height/weight/ethnicity etc. A sad indictment of the times we live in.
People should not, in this context of sexual preference, have to justify themselves. However they are responsible for presenting that preference in such a way as not to appear prejudiced, ignorant or offensive. With the right to choose comes the responsibility to choose wisely.
With the right to choose comes the responsibility to choose wisely ?
If one prefers not to play with fat people , it's all three 'offences' to fat people , so what's the wise choice ?
Same as anyone over a certain age , you become ageist ?
You seem very well versed in the rights and wrongs on this subject , can you explain the meaning of choosing wisely ?
Yes, choose as you wish, but try not to say clumsy offensive things. You suggest that sometimes you cannot help but offend some people, I would say that is right. Some people are difficult not to offend. But just be nice and open minded and not negative.
At least that is my _iew, and you did ask. "
That seems a fair hypothesis and a good compromise . Stick to your preferences , just don't be too vocal about them |
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"It's a shame that people feel they have to justify a personal preference, no matter what colour/size/sexuality/height/weight/ethnicity etc. A sad indictment of the times we live in.
People should not, in this context of sexual preference, have to justify themselves. However they are responsible for presenting that preference in such a way as not to appear prejudiced, ignorant or offensive. With the right to choose comes the responsibility to choose wisely.
With the right to choose comes the responsibility to choose wisely ?
If one prefers not to play with fat people , it's all three 'offences' to fat people , so what's the wise choice ?
Same as anyone over a certain age , you become ageist ?
You seem very well versed in the rights and wrongs on this subject , can you explain the meaning of choosing wisely ?
Yes, choose as you wish, but try not to say clumsy offensive things. You suggest that sometimes you cannot help but offend some people, I would say that is right. Some people are difficult not to offend. But just be nice and open minded and not negative.
At least that is my _iew, and you did ask.
That seems a fair hypothesis and a good compromise . Stick to your preferences , just don't be too vocal about them "
Hehe this is a forum. Where everything is fact.
What is fact is that I am going to bed, so everyone can put the boot in without fear of a massive long boring response from me.
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This is to do with personal taste, not being racists. People put no over a certain age, or no overweight people, must have a shaven pubic area, no bisexual, these are what the individual wants and they are being selective. Not everyone likes what everyone else has. |
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"What are other distinguished members thoughts on this? "
Not sure what the distinguished would think, but I am wondering why you are concerned about people who have poor grammar, The reality is they feel awkward making that preference to exclude a group of members, where for some reason often the same profiles don't feel awkward about potentially appearing ageist or height'ist |
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"I discriminate and I demonstrate prejudice.... big deal.
I demonstrate prejudice because I prejudge that I will not find Asian guys sexually appealing.... some 30 odd years of being sexually active backs this theory up, but it is just a theory nonetheless.
I also discriminate and prejudge people by their height and age. I discriminate against guys if they have a gut the size of my own.
I do not believe any of these people are any less of a person than me because of their physical appearance or that the races to which we belong can be ranked as inherently superior or inferior.
I have not had a bad experience with Asian guys... nor short, pot bellied, old white guys.... yet I discriminate based on past experience of what I have found aesthetically appealing.
If some people confuse this as racism, it is down to their ignorance not mine.
If anyone thinks this unfair and would not be acceptable in the rest of society, may I suggest you ring up your local theatre just before panto season and ask if a 4'2" middle-aged Asian dude should bother applying for the part of Cinderella. If you get an audition I'll consider shagging ya'.
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I fail to understand why its such a big deal.
So what if people put this on their profiles. Others will put other equally emotive statements on their profiles eg 'no fatties', 'no mingers'.
Does it matter whether its justified as being just a preference or offensive.
Even if some people are racist, just by calling them that, it still doesn't mean they are going to fuck you, you can't get Admin to force them to meet you just by accusing them of racism.
None of us should look too deeply into it or get offended by those who exclude us, its only swinging, its not important, who cares what people write or mean.  |
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over a year ago
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"I fail to understand why its such a big deal.
So what if people put this on their profiles. Others will put other equally emotive statements on their profiles eg 'no fatties', 'no mingers'.
Does it matter whether its justified as being just a preference or offensive.
Even if some people are racist, just by calling them that, it still doesn't mean they are going to fuck you, you can't get Admin to force them to meet you just by accusing them of racism.
None of us should look too deeply into it or get offended by those who exclude us, its only swinging, its not important, who cares what people write or mean. "
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It's not racist at all and does make sense, it's not necessarily about the colour of a persons skin but it's simply about what attracts the people on here, white, black and Asian people usually have distinguished facial features, I'd even say bodily features, to me it's exactly the same as someone saying they like bbws, blondes, men, hair free people, big cocks, small tits etc etc if somebody put them things on their profiles would they be sizeist, hair colourist, sexist, hairyist, cock or tit sizeist????? (yes I know I've made some of them words up!)
Hell no, they wouldn't at all because they are purely and simply targeting a specific audience, explaining their preferences and in an easy way letting people know what attracts them sexually/physically so that others don't waste their own time...everyone on here wants something out their meets don't they, if a profile says no black or Asian people then move on and find others that do (there are lots!)
This is coming from an Asian woman who has experience of reading profiles that say no Asians please and that has moved on to others! I've even replied to people that have messaged me with that comment on their profiles and told them I'm not what they're looking for as I'm Asian! Just to be a little evil and rub it in, I've had a great response because of my race and have even been told I'm a fantasy fuck for some!!! Hehe! Different strokes for different folks! Leave the pc shite to the politicians and let the kinky fuckery on fab commence!  |
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over a year ago
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"I discriminate and I demonstrate prejudice.... big deal.
I demonstrate prejudice because I prejudge that I will not find Asian guys sexually appealing.... some 30 odd years of being sexually active backs this theory up, but it is just a theory nonetheless.
I also discriminate and prejudge people by their height and age. I discriminate against guys if they have a gut the size of my own.
I do not believe any of these people are any less of a person than me because of their physical appearance or that the races to which we belong can be ranked as inherently superior or inferior.
I have not had a bad experience with Asian guys... nor short, pot bellied, old white guys.... yet I discriminate based on past experience of what I have found aesthetically appealing.
If some people confuse this as racism, it is down to their ignorance not mine.
If anyone thinks this unfair and would not be acceptable in the rest of society, may I suggest you ring up your local theatre just before panto season and ask if a 4'2" middle-aged Asian dude should bother applying for the part of Cinderella. If you get an audition I'll consider shagging ya'.
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This
It is about what is aesthetically appealing to a person not how they feel about them as human beings.
I am biracial black and white but I get the "exception to the rule" from people who usually are not attracted to white and others not attracted to black because to their eye I dont look like either. I dont really like being thought of as an exception but I don't think of people as racist who simply prefer a certain look.
The people that put these things on there profile are just being honest about what they like and don't want to spend a lot of time evaluating each and every person on a case by case basis. Sure they may miss out on someone great but let that be their loss. |
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over a year ago
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"I never understand the comment "their loss". If someone has no interest in you what are they losing exactly? Or is it something people say to make themselves feel better?"
A cunning mix of the both.
a) They never know what they could be missing out on (whatever they/you feel on that matter, it could potentially be true)
b) A commiseration of the fact that they feel they may potentially have something on offer that is is being discounted for whatever reason
Hope thats cleared it up for you. |
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over a year ago
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"I don't have to much to add, more of a comment really... But We've had at least 5 messages since joining now from people saying no blacks or etc.... i figure its a mistake because I always read profiles before I comment back. Now I'm never rude more confused and more than once I've been told that I'd be an exception to their rules.... thanks but no thanks
Different strokes for different folks I guess lol"
this in a shell of nuts
personal preferences are exactly what they say on the tin nothing more nothing less
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"It's not racist at all and does make sense, it's not necessarily about the colour of a persons skin but it's simply about what attracts the people on here, white, black and Asian people usually have distinguished facial features, I'd even say bodily features, to me it's exactly the same as someone saying they like bbws, blondes, men, hair free people, big cocks, small tits etc etc if somebody put them things on their profiles would they be sizeist, hair colourist, sexist, hairyist, cock or tit sizeist????? (yes I know I've made some of them words up!)
Hell no, they wouldn't at all because they are purely and simply targeting a specific audience, explaining their preferences and in an easy way letting people know what attracts them sexually/physically so that others don't waste their own time...everyone on here wants something out their meets don't they, if a profile says no black or Asian people then move on and find others that do (there are lots!)
This is coming from an Asian woman who has experience of reading profiles that say no Asians please and that has moved on to others! I've even replied to people that have messaged me with that comment on their profiles and told them I'm not what they're looking for as I'm Asian! Just to be a little evil and rub it in, I've had a great response because of my race and have even been told I'm a fantasy fuck for some!!! Hehe! Different strokes for different folks! Leave the pc shite to the politicians and let the kinky fuckery on fab commence! "
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"It's not racist at all and does make sense, it's not necessarily about the colour of a persons skin but it's simply about what attracts the people on here, white, black and Asian people usually have distinguished facial features, I'd even say bodily features, to me it's exactly the same as someone saying they like bbws, blondes, men, hair free people, big cocks, small tits etc etc if somebody put them things on their profiles would they be sizeist, hair colourist, sexist, hairyist, cock or tit sizeist????? (yes I know I've made some of them words up!)
Hell no, they wouldn't at all because they are purely and simply targeting a specific audience, explaining their preferences and in an easy way letting people know what attracts them sexually/physically so that others don't waste their own time...everyone on here wants something out their meets don't they, if a profile says no black or Asian people then move on and find others that do (there are lots!)
This is coming from an Asian woman who has experience of reading profiles that say no Asians please and that has moved on to others! I've even replied to people that have messaged me with that comment on their profiles and told them I'm not what they're looking for as I'm Asian! Just to be a little evil and rub it in, I've had a great response because of my race and have even been told I'm a fantasy fuck for some!!! Hehe! Different strokes for different folks! Leave the pc shite to the politicians and let the kinky fuckery on fab commence! "
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over a year ago
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"This is not a rant, just a confused chap here..
"No asian or black that is just my personal preference nothing racial"
I read profiles but often have to do ctrl F and do a keyword search for white, black, bbc, caucasian for the "dissertation" profiles just to make sure I'm not wasting my time.
Anyway how can a profile say no Asians or Black nothing racial. Unless my understanding of the English language is poor that statement is contradictory. As clearly it is racial because if I were white then the probability of a meet increases. Therefore, race does come into it. I come across such profiles and respect the ladies wishes but do wish the statement read
no asian or black that is just my personal preference.
What are other distinguished members thoughts on this? "
Guessing they say racist not racial.
And it's not racist to not fancy black people unless it's homophobic for straight people not to fancy thier own gender |
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over a year ago
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We are looking for white guys only.
the profile states that and that alone as it shouldn't really require qualification
No hairy guys, no fat guys, no short guys, no under 25, no one over 40, no white guys, no bi guys, only looking for guys that are fully shaved : all statements we see every day
all would exclude us
We read a profile and if we don't fit the bill, move on
Why people choose to go huffy about it if they don't fit a profiles criteria is beyond me.
why people feel they need to apologise for their choices is again, beyond me
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"I never understand the comment "their loss". If someone has no interest in you what are they losing exactly? Or is it something people say to make themselves feel better?
A cunning mix of the both.
a) They never know what they could be missing out on (whatever they/you feel on that matter, it could potentially be true)
b) A commiseration of the fact that they feel they may potentially have something on offer that is is being discounted for whatever reason
Hope thats cleared it up for you."
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"We are looking for white guys only.
the profile states that and that alone as it shouldn't really require qualification
No hairy guys, no fat guys, no short guys, no under 25, no one over 40, no white guys, no bi guys, only looking for guys that are fully shaved : all statements we see every day
all would exclude us
We read a profile and if we don't fit the bill, move on
Why people choose to go huffy about it if they don't fit a profiles criteria is beyond me.
why people feel they need to apologise for their choices is again, beyond me
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over a year ago
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I don't care it doesn't bother me...it's called "choice".
The only thing however, that does indeed confuse the shit out if me is when someone who is not interested in Black men or in my case Mixed Race (white mum) they look at me in my looked list AND fab my pics! Lol!
I'm sure we can all tell I'm at least slightly Black....  |
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"I don't care it doesn't bother me...it's called "choice".
The only thing however, that does indeed confuse the shit out if me is when someone who is not interested in Black men or in my case Mixed Race (white mum) they look at me in my looked list AND fab my pics! Lol!
I'm sure we can all tell I'm at least slightly Black.... "
Maybe they think you look good in the pic but don't want to sleep with you?
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"I don't care it doesn't bother me...it's called "choice".
The only thing however, that does indeed confuse the shit out if me is when someone who is not interested in Black men or in my case Mixed Race (white mum) they look at me in my looked list AND fab my pics! Lol!
I'm sure we can all tell I'm at least slightly Black....
Maybe they think you look good in the pic but don't want to sleep with you?
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Very true, I fab pics of women/TV/ts that I think look beautiful but I have no interest in sleeping with them. |
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"I don't care it doesn't bother me...it's called "choice".
The only thing however, that does indeed confuse the shit out if me is when someone who is not interested in Black men or in my case Mixed Race (white mum) they look at me in my looked list AND fab my pics! Lol!
I'm sure we can all tell I'm at least slightly Black....
Maybe they think you look good in the pic but don't want to sleep with you?
Very true, I fab pics of women/TV/ts that I think look beautiful but I have no interest in sleeping with them."
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"I don't care it doesn't bother me...it's called "choice".
The only thing however, that does indeed confuse the shit out if me is when someone who is not interested in Black men or in my case Mixed Race (white mum) they look at me in my looked list AND fab my pics! Lol!
I'm sure we can all tell I'm at least slightly Black.... "
...same way I fabbed couples/women. I don't meet couples and I'm straight but I appreciate a good picture. |
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"I don't relationships wn't bother me...it's called "choice".
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Yeah and it's just a choice if I prefer to employ an Asian instead or white or I want to live in Asian area instead of white Or I only want relationships with Asian women. Nothing racial about it at all lol. |
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"I am not racist however i no longer meet black or asian men due to some truly dreadful meets with black and asian men, hence i now stick to only meeting white men "
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with whom there is never a dreadful meet??..what a ridiculous generalisation.
So you had a few meets that did not go according to plan with Black/Asian, all Blacks/Asians are now not up to your standards?.. Could you not be the reason those meets went sour??... |
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