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"Doctor says that ADHD doesn't exist, at last, people talking some sense. In my day, they were called brats "Iron deficiency , hearing problems , eyesight issues , poor diet are all cited as probable causes by the Dr suggesting it doesn't exist . Not to mention parental and peer issues , including the current favourite , human rights . In our day , much like the op , it was simply bad behaviour . The way to deal with it was much easier then , and certainly didn't involve giving stimulants !  | |||
"Doctor says that ADHD doesn't exist, at last, people talking some sense. In my day, they were called brats
Iron deficiency , hearing problems , eyesight issues , poor diet are all cited as probable causes by the Dr suggesting it doesn't exist .
Not to mention parental and peer issues , including the current favourite , human rights .
In our day , much like the op , it was simply bad behaviour . The way to deal with it was much easier then , and certainly didn't involve giving stimulants !
"Let's just round them all up and send them to special school shall we? | |||
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"Doctor says that ADHD doesn't exist, at last, people talking some sense. In my day, they were called brats
Iron deficiency , hearing problems , eyesight issues , poor diet are all cited as probable causes by the Dr suggesting it doesn't exist .
Not to mention parental and peer issues , including the current favourite , human rights .
In our day , much like the op , it was simply bad behaviour . The way to deal with it was much easier then , and certainly didn't involve giving stimulants !
Let's just round them all up and send them to special school shall we?"what special schools? The government got rid of them | |||
"Doctor says that ADHD doesn't exist, at last, people talking some sense. In my day, they were called brats
Iron deficiency , hearing problems , eyesight issues , poor diet are all cited as probable causes by the Dr suggesting it doesn't exist .
Not to mention parental and peer issues , including the current favourite , human rights .
In our day , much like the op , it was simply bad behaviour . The way to deal with it was much easier then , and certainly didn't involve giving stimulants !
"Exactly, We didn't drug the little brats back then. Other ways to sort them out. Some people just need excuses for bad behaviour and think having a label, excuses it | |||
"I remember when boys were told wanking made your head explode" And they believed not wanking would make their balls explode  | |||
"Doctor says that ADHD doesn't exist, at last, people talking some sense. In my day, they were called brats
Iron deficiency , hearing problems , eyesight issues , poor diet are all cited as probable causes by the Dr suggesting it doesn't exist .
Not to mention parental and peer issues , including the current favourite , human rights .
In our day , much like the op , it was simply bad behaviour . The way to deal with it was much easier then , and certainly didn't involve giving stimulants !
Let's just round them all up and send them to special school shall we?
what special schools? The government got rid of them "They don't need special schools for them. | |||
"Doctor says that ADHD doesn't exist, at last, people talking some sense. In my day, they were called brats
Iron deficiency , hearing problems , eyesight issues , poor diet are all cited as probable causes by the Dr suggesting it doesn't exist .
Not to mention parental and peer issues , including the current favourite , human rights .
In our day , much like the op , it was simply bad behaviour . The way to deal with it was much easier then , and certainly didn't involve giving stimulants !
Let's just round them all up and send them to special school shall we?
what special schools? The government got rid of them
They don't need special schools for them."One doctors view is hardly representative. I have worked with some kids who are just badly behaved, no label required, but have also worked with kids who have genuine issues. To dismiss ADHD completely is incorrect. | |||
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"Doctor says that ADHD doesn't exist, at last, people talking some sense. In my day, they were called brats
Iron deficiency , hearing problems , eyesight issues , poor diet are all cited as probable causes by the Dr suggesting it doesn't exist .
Not to mention parental and peer issues , including the current favourite , human rights .
In our day , much like the op , it was simply bad behaviour . The way to deal with it was much easier then , and certainly didn't involve giving stimulants !
Let's just round them all up and send them to special school shall we?
what special schools? The government got rid of them
They don't need special schools for them."no, just special people to help them. Or maybe the workhouse ? Flogging? | |||
"when i was at school i was too scared of most of my teachers to be naughty. they would slap me or threaten to which was bad enough." that's because your brain told you to behave or else | |||
"when i was at school i was too scared of most of my teachers to be naughty. they would slap me or threaten to which was bad enough. that's because your brain told you to behave or else" It didnt work when i had a fit of the giggles though. | |||
"Doctor says that ADHD doesn't exist, at last, people talking some sense. In my day, they were called brats
Iron deficiency , hearing problems , eyesight issues , poor diet are all cited as probable causes by the Dr suggesting it doesn't exist .
Not to mention parental and peer issues , including the current favourite , human rights .
In our day , much like the op , it was simply bad behaviour . The way to deal with it was much easier then , and certainly didn't involve giving stimulants !
Let's just round them all up and send them to special school shall we?
what special schools? The government got rid of them
They don't need special schools for them.
One doctors view is hardly representative. I have worked with some kids who are just badly behaved, no label required, but have also worked with kids who have genuine issues. To dismiss ADHD completely is incorrect."I've worked with hundreds of children with all kinds of issues and problems. The brats were generally the spoilt children who liked to get their own way. The very bad behaviour came from all backgrounds and up bringings. I do think diet may have an effect as I've seen some studies but it's not a cure all | |||
"when i was at school i was too scared of most of my teachers to be naughty. they would slap me or threaten to which was bad enough. that's because your brain told you to behave or else It didnt work when i had a fit of the giggles though." that's involuntary and also a reaction to fear. It happens to me in church | |||
"I remember when boys were told wanking made your head explode" Well it does in a sense. | |||
"when i was at school i was too scared of most of my teachers to be naughty. they would slap me or threaten to which was bad enough. that's because your brain told you to behave or else It didnt work when i had a fit of the giggles though. that's involuntary and also a reaction to fear. It happens to me in church "yes its awful when that happens.  | |||
"I remember when boys were told wanking made your head explode Well it does in a sense." talking different heads. Have you got hairy palms too? | |||
"Doctor says that ADHD doesn't exist, at last, people talking some sense. In my day, they were called brats
Iron deficiency , hearing problems , eyesight issues , poor diet are all cited as probable causes by the Dr suggesting it doesn't exist .
Not to mention parental and peer issues , including the current favourite , human rights . a swift slapped arse and sent to bed used to put a stop to my tantrums but the kids know that you cant do that these days so can get away with it
In our day , much like the op , it was simply bad behaviour . The way to deal with it was much easier then , and certainly didn't involve giving stimulants !
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"Doctor says that ADHD doesn't exist, at last, people talking some sense. In my day, they were called brats
Iron deficiency , hearing problems , eyesight issues , poor diet are all cited as probable causes by the Dr suggesting it doesn't exist .
Not to mention parental and peer issues , including the current favourite , human rights .
In our day , much like the op , it was simply bad behaviour . The way to deal with it was much easier then , and certainly didn't involve giving stimulants !
Let's just round them all up and send them to special school shall we?
what special schools? The government got rid of them
They don't need special schools for them.
One doctors view is hardly representative. I have worked with some kids who are just badly behaved, no label required, but have also worked with kids who have genuine issues. To dismiss ADHD completely is incorrect."I wasn't just taking one doctors view as gospel. It's something I've always believed, as the generations have gone on, food additives, lack of discipline etc have made these kids like they are | |||
"Doctor says that ADHD doesn't exist, at last, people talking some sense. In my day, they were called brats
Iron deficiency , hearing problems , eyesight issues , poor diet are all cited as probable causes by the Dr suggesting it doesn't exist .
Not to mention parental and peer issues , including the current favourite , human rights .
In our day , much like the op , it was simply bad behaviour . The way to deal with it was much easier then , and certainly didn't involve giving stimulants !
Let's just round them all up and send them to special school shall we?
what special schools? The government got rid of them
They don't need special schools for them.
One doctors view is hardly representative. I have worked with some kids who are just badly behaved, no label required, but have also worked with kids who have genuine issues. To dismiss ADHD completely is incorrect.
I wasn't just taking one doctors view as gospel. It's something I've always believed, as the generations have gone on, food additives, lack of discipline etc have made these kids like they are"I believe additives in food are damaging us and lack of nutrients we need along with pollution poisoning us. Brain cells and pathways are complicated and so much can go wrong | |||
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"You try living with an ADHD child or an autistic child and then come back and say that x" I think to be fair it's only the ADHD tag being referred to here . Autism is a different subject | |||
"when i was at school i was too scared of most of my teachers to be naughty. they would slap me or threaten to which was bad enough. that's because your brain told you to behave or else It didnt work when i had a fit of the giggles though. that's involuntary and also a reaction to fear. It happens to me in church "Have you considered not going to church ? | |||
"I just get so wild with the amount of money spent on this when a good diet and some proper discipline (and education for the parents, they need it) would probably do the trick." I don't disagree with you that there are probably some very naughty kids for whom a bit of discipline, routine and some decent food would sort out their behavioural problems. But there are also kids out there from very good families for whom a proper diagnosis has been life changing for the child and everyone around them. | |||
"Doctor says that ADHD doesn't exist, at last, people talking some sense. In my day, they were called brats
Iron deficiency , hearing problems , eyesight issues , poor diet are all cited as probable causes by the Dr suggesting it doesn't exist .
Not to mention parental and peer issues , including the current favourite , human rights .
In our day , much like the op , it was simply bad behaviour . The way to deal with it was much easier then , and certainly didn't involve giving stimulants !
Let's just round them all up and send them to special school shall we?
what special schools? The government got rid of them
They don't need special schools for them.
One doctors view is hardly representative. I have worked with some kids who are just badly behaved, no label required, but have also worked with kids who have genuine issues. To dismiss ADHD completely is incorrect.
I've worked with hundreds of children with all kinds of issues and problems. The brats were generally the spoilt children who liked to get their own way. The very bad behaviour came from all backgrounds and up bringings. I do think diet may have an effect as I've seen some studies but it's not a cure all " | |||
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"You try living with an ADHD child or an autistic child and then come back and say that x I think to be fair it's only the ADHD tag being referred to here . Autism is a different subject "Yes, thank you. Never once mentioned autism. My nephew has that, I know all about it. | |||
"You try living with an ADHD child or an autistic child and then come back and say that x" FYI. I live with our son. A severely disabled 29year old young man. In a body that doesn't work at all and no way to communicate. I do have an idea about a lot of things. | |||
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"Just on the subject of autism. Does anyone have experience of the use of melatonin in autistic children. I've recently watched a pal's nearly teenage son move from being almost uncontrollable to being reasonably well behaved, no longer fighting in the playground, no longer dogging school etc, all, as far as they can tell, after being prescribed melatonin." Dogging was never allowed when I ws at school!! | |||
"Doctor says that ADHD doesn't exist, at last, people talking some sense. In my day, they were called brats "I remember seeing a child in a supermarket swearing profusely whilst people looked on in disbelief, probably cursing the mother for being a bad parent and not controlling her brat, before she explained that the child suffered from Tourette's Syndrome. I have friends who have (13yr old) twin boys. One of which suffers from Autism and ADHD. The family are torn apart every day by his behavior as it is non stop 24/7 After seeing them becoming shells of their former selves, I disagree that this does not exist. This child has every symptom that goes with ADHD and far from being a brat, he is a very loving a caring child. | |||
"Doctor says that ADHD doesn't exist, at last, people talking some sense. In my day, they were called brats
I remember seeing a child in a supermarket swearing profusely whilst people looked on in disbelief, probably cursing the mother for being a bad parent and not controlling her brat, before she explained that the child suffered from Tourette's Syndrome. I understand that, my post must of come across as ADHD doesn't exist I have seen mothers try to use this to their own advantage
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I have friends who have (13yr old) twin boys. One of which suffers from Autism and ADHD. The family are torn apart every day by his behavior as it is non stop 24/7 After seeing them becoming shells of their former selves, I disagree that this does not exist. This child has every symptom that goes with ADHD and far from being a brat, he is a very loving a caring child. " | |||
" If there is an ADHD out there, some parents, will use it rather than face the blame themselves. Her" Possibly, as I have heard others that use this when clearly the child just needs to be parented properly. I think if they'd ever lived with the reality they would soon know. One of the symptoms is having little or no sense of danger, and it is terrifying just taking the dogs for a walk with the kids as the child with ADHD could run out into the path of a car at any moment or throw himself over a cliff (not being dramatic!). It puts me on edge every time I'm with them, so imagine living that every day!  | |||
" If there is an ADHD out there, some parents, will use it rather than face the blame themselves. Her Possibly, as I have heard others that use this when clearly the child just needs to be parented properly. I think if they'd ever lived with the reality they would soon know. One of the symptoms is having little or no sense of danger, and it is terrifying just taking the dogs for a walk with the kids as the child with ADHD could run out into the path of a car at any moment or throw himself over a cliff (not being dramatic!). It puts me on edge every time I'm with them, so imagine living that every day! "Surely that is possible with any smll child that's why you make sure they can't run out onto the road or are you talking older? | |||
" If there is an ADHD out there, some parents, will use it rather than face the blame themselves. Her Possibly, as I have heard others that use this when clearly the child just needs to be parented properly. I think if they'd ever lived with the reality they would soon know. One of the symptoms is having little or no sense of danger, and it is terrifying just taking the dogs for a walk with the kids as the child with ADHD could run out into the path of a car at any moment or throw himself over a cliff (not being dramatic!). It puts me on edge every time I'm with them, so imagine living that every day! "Yes I can only imagine, so seeing stories like your own and some parents playing it, is a disgrace. | |||
"Doctor says that ADHD doesn't exist, at last, people talking some sense. In my day, they were called brats
Iron deficiency , hearing problems , eyesight issues , poor diet are all cited as probable causes by the Dr suggesting it doesn't exist .
Not to mention parental and peer issues , including the current favourite , human rights .
In our day , much like the op , it was simply bad behaviour . The way to deal with it was much easier then , and certainly didn't involve giving stimulants !
Exactly, We didn't drug the little brats back then. Other ways to sort them out.
Some people just need excuses for bad behaviour and think having a label, excuses it "What do you suggest? Sending them up chimneys, down the mines, or to work int' mill? | |||
" Surely that is possible with any smll child that's why you make sure they can't run out onto the road or are you talking older?" This child is 13 now but yet the dangers are still there. With most children, you can teach them that fire will burn or sharp knifes will cut. This child will continually put his hand into the fire (if that's his thought process at that time) even though he knows it will burn. | |||
" Surely that is possible with any smll child that's why you make sure they can't run out onto the road or are you talking older? This child is 13 now but yet the dangers are still there. With most children, you can teach them that fire will burn or sharp knifes will cut. This child will continually put his hand into the fire (if that's his thought process at that time) even though he knows it will burn. " Must be hard for the family. | |||
"Doctor says that ADHD doesn't exist, at last, people talking some sense. In my day, they were called brats
Iron deficiency , hearing problems , eyesight issues , poor diet are all cited as probable causes by the Dr suggesting it doesn't exist .
Not to mention parental and peer issues , including the current favourite , human rights .
In our day , much like the op , it was simply bad behaviour . The way to deal with it was much easier then , and certainly didn't involve giving stimulants !
Exactly, We didn't drug the little brats back then. Other ways to sort them out.
Some people just need excuses for bad behaviour and think having a label, excuses it
What do you suggest? Sending them up chimneys, down the mines, or to work int' mill?"Yes that might do it. No, seriously, the proper discipline that a lot of today's kids are lacking would help | |||
" Surely that is possible with any smll child that's why you make sure they can't run out onto the road or are you talking older? This child is 13 now but yet the dangers are still there. With most children, you can teach them that fire will burn or sharp knifes will cut. This child will continually put his hand into the fire (if that's his thought process at that time) even though he knows it will burn. " I was like that when I was young, never believed the fire was hot and it would burn, always had to find out for myself.so, yes I got burnt | |||
" Surely that is possible with any smll child that's why you make sure they can't run out onto the road or are you talking older? This child is 13 now but yet the dangers are still there. With most children, you can teach them that fire will burn or sharp knifes will cut. This child will continually put his hand into the fire (if that's his thought process at that time) even though he knows it will burn. I was like that when I was young, never believed the fire was hot and it would burn, always had to find out for myself.so, yes I got burnt" He understands the concept that it will burn and is able to make the other children aware (BBQ) but will still reach for a hot coal... | |||
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"I always hear of boys being diagnosed with ADHD but not girls, is this a disorder that only affects male genes....IMO, when I was a kid we all had what is now labelled ADHD to some extent, but in those days the remedy was a damn good hiding from your parents, even a caning from disciplinarian teachers or a clip around the ear from the local PC Plod. This remedy has now been outlawed and the ability to discipline unruly children has been taken away. What we see today are children who have no fear of those in authority because the know full well that no matter how badly they behave people in authority are powerless to do anything about it. " From what I've read in the past, girls normally suffer from the inattentiveness symptoms... short attention span, unable to concentrate, easily distracted and so on. I think this makes it harder to diagnose. BTW the symptoms I've listed have been cut down. I point that out because as per your comments (which I totally agree with) it could be viewed as just bone idleness! | |||
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"And all these children could have been cured with a bloody good hiding or a clip round the ear" Not all of them, no, but the majority | |||
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