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By *B9 QueenWoman
over a year ago
Over the rainbow, under the bridge |
When I heard that it simply disappeared off radar without so much as a sign of anything wrong from the pilots, at 35,000 feet, then I instantly thought it's either been bombed or deliberately crashed. The pilots would have had time to send out a distress call otherwise.
Very very sad for the victims and their families. |
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By *B9 QueenWoman
over a year ago
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"if it were a bomb wouldnt there have been more scattered debris "
Not that easy to find in the sea. Also, if it were a device which simply blew a hole in the plane which caused a crash it could just have sunk fairly intact (long shot, I know). Who knows? There is more to this than simply an air accident, I feel. Just a gut feeling.
However, regardless of what has happened, more than 200 dead and many more grieving. I cannot imagine what the families and friends are going through. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"if it were a bomb wouldnt there have been more scattered debris "
More scattered is harder to find then a small area of floating debris. You only have to look at the stuff washed up on our beaches recently to see the amount of debris floating around at sea. Lots of finishing nets and plastic containers.
Naval ships have a good chance of hearing the pinger in the black box, that only lasts about a month though so they need to narrow down the area as much as possible.
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"it's all very strange"
Yes, and very sad for those poor families who have no idea what's happened to their loved ones. I really do feel for them. The not knowing must be horrendous  |
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"if it was a bomb, would some organisation not have claimed responsibility by now??
they are normally fairly quick off the mark to crow about it"
Not neccessary no, I stand to be corrected but I think Al-queda never claimed to be behind 911. They took the credit though when it was pinned on them.
Same for the Chicago marathon bomb, I don't the two brothers owned up, more like they were caught, again I think |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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According to a report if it hit the water there would a lot of debris in a small area, it broke up at 35,000 ft the debris would be scattered over a very large area.
Last I heard was in the early afternoon a door was found belonging to.the aircraft. |
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By *B9 QueenWoman
over a year ago
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"According to a report if it hit the water there would a lot of debris in a small area, it broke up at 35,000 ft the debris would be scattered over a very large area.
Last I heard was in the early afternoon a door was found belonging to.the aircraft."
I didn't know this - thanks. |
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By *B9 QueenWoman
over a year ago
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Just lifted this from the BBC News Homepage:
Mystery shrouds the fate of Malaysia Airlines flight MH370, which has disappeared with 239 passengers and crew en route to Beijing.
There have been reports that debris was found off the Vietnamese island of Tho Chu but these have not been confirmed.
Flight MH370 departed from Kuala Lumpur International Airport at 00:41 on Saturday (16:41 GMT Friday), and was due to arrive in Beijing at 06:30. Air traffic controllers lost contact at 01:30.
At a time as yet undisclosed, a relative reportedly managed to call one of the passengers, who was carrying a Singapore phone. Malaysia Airlines has repeatedly tried to call the same number but no ringtone has been heard.
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I've edited it but I think those are the salient points. |
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well it seems that the aircraft was out of any radar contact, it was not visible on any radar (i just read all this) the only way they knew a position of the plane was because the piolot radioed it a few minutes earlier.
so could it be a possibility that it was made to dive low (below radar when it would re-appear on screens,) and made to land (safely)somewhere close by, thus being hi-jacked?? and the reason no debris has been found.
clutching at straws here i know, but is it a possibility ? |
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"well it seems that the aircraft was out of any radar contact, it was not visible on any radar (i just read all this) the only way they knew a position of the plane was because the piolot radioed it a few minutes earlier.
so could it be a possibility that it was made to dive low (below radar when it would re-appear on screens,) and made to land (safely)somewhere close by, thus being hi-jacked?? and the reason no debris has been found.
clutching at straws here i know, but is it a possibility ?"
*pilot* |
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By *B9 QueenWoman
over a year ago
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This is the latest from the Guardian's live updates:
More possible sightings of the missing Boeing 777 have been ruled out as frustration mounts at the lack of progress in the search for the plane. An oil slick spotted in the South China Sea was found to have no connection to missing the missing jet. Reports of a possible life raft from the plane also turned out to be false. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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Truth is stranger than fiction. Aircraft have just *disappeared* and been found years later miles from their last reported position.
Also distress / mayday transmissions have a lower priority than most realise.
Aviate, Navigate, Communicate in that order.
If the aircraft had a problem the crew would have been working their bollocks off to sort it out without pressing the tit to transmit. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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Not heard any conspiracy theorist nutters come up with anything yet, thank god.
Mind you, after 70 years, they still haven't found the plane Glenn Miller was travelling in, nor his body.......go figure. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"When I heard that it simply disappeared off radar without so much as a sign of anything wrong from the pilots, at 35,000 feet, then I instantly thought it's either been bombed or deliberately crashed. The pilots would have had time to send out a distress call otherwise.
Very very sad for the victims and their families."
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"whats your conspiracy theory over it?."
It got hijacked most likely.
The news are ruling that out but they talk as if mid-air refueling tech wasn't invented like 20 years ago. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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They have found some objects in the warter but say its to dark to be sure what it is.
they will conduct there investigation once its light again. Before they say its the aircraft or not.
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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My sister was flying that way last week thank god she is ok !
Let's just hope there was a problem and they had to land in middle of no where and are all safe |
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The last I read, 2 passengers were travelling with passports that were stolen 2 years ago and the FBI are now hunting a man who they believe sold them to the passangers and 5 passangers checked in but didn't board the plane which resulted in their luggage being removed.
Yet they say they have no reason to believe foul play and it's likely that the plane disintegrated at 35,000ft caused by a fault due to the lack of debris. 
And a Chinese martyrs brigade claim responsibilty for the attack.
Whatever happened I just hope the families get closure soon. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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if it blew up at high altitude there would be debris covering several miles in the lockerby case debris was spread over 80 miles
if it nose bombed into the sea it would break up and theres a hell of a lot of floaty stuff on a plane again debris
these plane can fly for 16 hours my theory is it droped below radar and has landed somewhere  |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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A plane travelling at 500mph 6 miles Above the sea and out of radar range may have been on dead reckoning navigation for quite some time. If it lost power and glided down then a search area of 1000 square miles is very likely, if they got speed down it may well have sunk without major break up so is a very small target to find.
Thoughts to the relatives, and luck to the search teams. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"A plane travelling at 500mph 6 miles Above the sea and out of radar range may have been on dead reckoning navigation for quite some time. If it lost power and glided down then a search area of 1000 square miles is very likely, if they got speed down it may well have sunk without major break up so is a very small target to find.
Thoughts to the relatives, and luck to the search teams. "
if all engine power is lost. a small propeller pops out the bottom of the aircraft and turns as the plane glides thru the air.
In effect giving them basic instruments ie radio.
when flying over the sea with communication with atc the pilot uses his fmc to in put data
latitude - longitude - altitude every so many mins this is how an airctaft reports its position.
Had it broken up mid air or gone down in tact.
tear up an A4 sheet of paper into 8 - 10 sections. Hold all of them about 2inch off the floor and drop this would be as if aircraft went down in tact. Now do the same but hold the paper above your head this is how it would be as if the aircraft broke up in flight.
sod the stolen passport as how many people must travel on them each day? We are only hearing about this as the plane is missing.
A few years ago a plane went down same no problems reported just droped out the sky.
after they found the black boxes they discovered that it was the pilot who crashed the plane. One pilot left the cockpit to use the loo or whatever the other pilot put the plane nose down.
in effect this plane broke the sound barrier before crashing.
this was due to the pilot being under stress and having money problems.
He was hoping his family would get a payout from his insurance not the case.
ie its too early to say what has happened. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"The last I read, 2 passengers were travelling with passports that were stolen 2 years ago and the FBI are now hunting a man who they believe sold them to the passangers and 5 passangers checked in but didn't board the plane which resulted in their luggage being removed.
Yet they say they have no reason to believe foul play and it's likely that the plane disintegrated at 35,000ft caused by a fault due to the lack of debris.
And a Chinese martyrs brigade claim responsibilty for the attack.
Whatever happened I just hope the families get closure soon."
How could a plane just disintegrate |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"The last I read, 2 passengers were travelling with passports that were stolen 2 years ago and the FBI are now hunting a man who they believe sold them to the passangers and 5 passangers checked in but didn't board the plane which resulted in their luggage being removed.
Yet they say they have no reason to believe foul play and it's likely that the plane disintegrated at 35,000ft caused by a fault due to the lack of debris.
And a Chinese martyrs brigade claim responsibilty for the attack.
Whatever happened I just hope the families get closure soon.
How could a plane just disintegrate "
There could be several causes. A bomb is the most obvious but obviously there's no evidence to back that up yet. A cargo hatch suddenly blowing open at altitude or metal fatigue caused by repeated pressurisation cycles.
I find it unlikely that it descended slowly or was hijacked as it would almost certainly been seen on someone's radar and also pilots now have the ability to enter a code that would alert ground control if someone is attempting to take control of the plane. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"I think it's crazy .... Especially not being able to locate the remains of it?
I think they know more than they are letting on
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When you consider the size of an aircraft compared to the size of an ocean it's never going to be easy, especially when the wreckage could be small and most of it will have sunk. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"I think it's crazy .... Especially not being able to locate the remains of it?
I think they know more than they are letting on
When you consider the size of an aircraft compared to the size of an ocean it's never going to be easy, especially when the wreckage could be small and most of it will have sunk."
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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Firstly let me just say I do feel for the families and friends of the passengers on the missing plane, it must be awful not knowing if someone is still alive or not. I hope something does come up soon to show what happened to the plane so at least they can have closure.
If it has exploded it could take years to find it. It took them days to find anything from the Air France flight in 2009 and 2 years to find the main wreckage.
If it had been hijacked, by now someone would of come forward with ransom demands.
It really is a mystery and one I hope gets solved very soon.
There is of course a list of strange conspiracy theories.... Aliens, Godzilla, new series of Lost, a new Bermuda triangle.
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By (user no longer on site)
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"A few years ago a plane went down same no problems reported just droped out the sky.
after they found the black boxes they discovered that it was the pilot who crashed the plane. One pilot left the cockpit to use the loo or whatever the other pilot put the plane nose down.
in effect this plane broke the sound barrier before crashing.
this was due to the pilot being under stress and having money problems.
He was hoping his family would get a payout from his insurance not the case.
ie its too early to say what has happened. "
There have been a handful of documented pilot suicides, a truly terrifying thought |
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"The last I read, 2 passengers were travelling with passports that were stolen 2 years ago and the FBI are now hunting a man who they believe sold them to the passangers and 5 passangers checked in but didn't board the plane which resulted in their luggage being removed.
Yet they say they have no reason to believe foul play and it's likely that the plane disintegrated at 35,000ft caused by a fault due to the lack of debris.
And a Chinese martyrs brigade claim responsibilty for the attack.
Whatever happened I just hope the families get closure soon.
How could a plane just disintegrate "
My guess is the amount of fuel and the low oxygen at that altitude. I could even be wrong here, things maybe dont explode so easy with less oxygen. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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My guess is the amount of fuel and the low
oxygen at that altitude. I could even be wrong here, things maybe dont explode so easy with less oxygen."
once an aircraft is pressurised it actually expands by about 2 - 4 inches depending on the aircraft.
an explanation mid flight would be like shake a can up and hit it with a hammer.
a decompression via a hole, window blow out or even a cargo door opening. The aircraft should stay structurley safe. The pilot would have to put the plane in to a nose down position and perform a rapid decent getting the aircraft below 10,000ft so passengers can breath with out there oxygen masks. |
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The biggest problem is that pretty much every theory has holes in it.
A bomb? Possible, but why no debris? While a lot of the aircraft would sink, there would still be a huge amount that would float.
Sudden structural failure? Pretty much as above.
Pilot had a problem and performed a controlled ditching into the sea? The aircraft would probably/possibly have stayed intact and could have sunk in one piece, answering the debris question, but surely in those circumstances the flight crew would have had some time to send out a mayday.
The plane changed course and the search is in the wrong place? Probably the most plausible theory, but with the amount of shipping in the area, especially in the straits of Malacca, surely someone would have spotted something by now had it come down in the sea. Even if it came down on land in a remote area, a 777 is a bloody big plane and surely someone would have seen something.
High-jacking? Another possibility, but how could it just disappear? and even if by some chance they managed to keep it under the radar and land it somewhere, why no contact for the high-jackers and no demands?
I suppose after saying all that, the alien abduction theory does have some merit  |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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The fact the families of the passengers on board have been ringing there mobile phones and it rings and rings is freaky! Surely if the plane blew up/crashed it would go straight to answer phone or wouldn't connect!
Very freaky.... |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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Just seen this on the BBC website...
Military radar suggests the missing Malaysia Airlines plane turned west, away from its planned route, before vanishing, Malaysia's air force says. |
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By *lPulpoCouple
over a year ago
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"I believe the plane encountered a Wormhole and is now somewhere else in the Universe or it might have been captured by Aliens."
Again?!? Wish those damned aliens would stop mucking us about! So, they figured out how to control wormholes! Big deal. I think they're just showing off! |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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What is baffling is that it has taken military radar some three days to notice that the plane turned left.
They've no chance if the US ever launch tomahawks their way. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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News reports from Reunion say a part of a plane has been washed up on the island!
http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/2015/07/29/mh370-experts-analyse-wreckage-plane-wing-found-reunion-island_n_7896548.html |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"News reports from Reunion say a part of a plane has been washed up on the island!
http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/2015/07/29/mh370-experts-analyse-wreckage-plane-wing-found-reunion-island_n_7896548.html"
No nearer the truth, but what a variety of theories/potential outcomes. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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I thought that, from the very beginning it was either shot down by the Malaysian air force or it was stolen for future atrocities, but we'll see.........maybe? |
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By (user no longer on site)
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Been reading a forum on an aviation website. Some interesting comparison pics with a similar component of a Boeing 777 wing have been posted in response to the pic of the washed up component. It looks "promising" but part and serial numbers will confirm. |
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