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over a year ago
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Not celebrating it myself, by accident of birth I am female, whoopie-doo.
I don't need special treatment ta, or to be somehow distinguished as special compared to men.
There's 3.5 billion of us, not like we're in decline and need a telethon or anything. |
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"Not celebrating it myself, by accident of birth I am female, whoopie-doo.
I don't need special treatment ta, or to be somehow distinguished as special compared to men.
There's 3.5 billion of us, not like we're in decline and need a telethon or anything."
You weren't born a woman. You were turned into what society deems women to be. You were born female.
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"Not celebrating it myself, by accident of birth I am female, whoopie-doo.
I don't need special treatment ta, or to be somehow distinguished as special compared to men.
There's 3.5 billion of us, not like we're in decline and need a telethon or anything.
You weren't born a woman. You were turned into what society deems women to be. You were born female.
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Semantics. |
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"Not celebrating it myself, by accident of birth I am female, whoopie-doo.
I don't need special treatment ta, or to be somehow distinguished as special compared to men.
There's 3.5 billion of us, not like we're in decline and need a telethon or anything."
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By *icketysplitsWoman
over a year ago
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"Not celebrating it myself, by accident of birth I am female, whoopie-doo.
I don't need special treatment ta, or to be somehow distinguished as special compared to men.
There's 3.5 billion of us, not like we're in decline and need a telethon or anything.
You weren't born a woman. You were turned into what society deems women to be. You were born female.
Semantics."
That might be true for you but it really isn't for a lot of women across the world.
It's not about being distinguished as special compared to men it is about addressing the inequalities women face.
The title of the thread even manages to show the casual everyday sexism women still face in this country.
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"Not celebrating it myself, by accident of birth I am female, whoopie-doo.
I don't need special treatment ta, or to be somehow distinguished as special compared to men.
There's 3.5 billion of us, not like we're in decline and need a telethon or anything.
You weren't born a woman. You were turned into what society deems women to be. You were born female.
Semantics.
That might be true for you but it really isn't for a lot of women across the world.
It's not about being distinguished as special compared to men it is about addressing the inequalities women face.
The title of the thread even manages to show the casual everyday sexism women still face in this country.
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By (user no longer on site)
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International ladies day is grammatically incorrect as if this was so then ladies outside the United Kingdom only would be celebrating? I say get your tits out for the lads and be done! |
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By *icketysplitsWoman
over a year ago
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"Not celebrating it myself, by accident of birth I am female, whoopie-doo.
I don't need special treatment ta, or to be somehow distinguished as special compared to men.
There's 3.5 billion of us, not like we're in decline and need a telethon or anything.
You weren't born a woman. You were turned into what society deems women to be. You were born female.
Semantics.
That might be true for you but it really isn't for a lot of women across the world.
It's not about being distinguished as special compared to men it is about addressing the inequalities women face.
The title of the thread even manages to show the casual everyday sexism women still face in this country.
what by calling them ladies "
Yes. The title of the day is International Women's Day. Ladies infers the "fair, gentle sex". It is at least a little more considered than using "girl" which happens a lot.
I know you and I will never agree on this point as we view feminism and sexism in different ways. I do challenge casual sexism (racism/homophobia etc.) as it entrenches the behaviours and the social conditioning behind it to ignore it.
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"Not celebrating it myself, by accident of birth I am female, whoopie-doo.
I don't need special treatment ta, or to be somehow distinguished as special compared to men.
There's 3.5 billion of us, not like we're in decline and need a telethon or anything. they called it ladies day on radio, dont shoot messenger...
You weren't born a woman. You were turned into what society deems women to be. You were born female.
Semantics.
That might be true for you but it really isn't for a lot of women across the world.
It's not about being distinguished as special compared to men it is about addressing the inequalities women face.
The title of the thread even manages to show the casual everyday sexism women still face in this country.
what by calling them ladies
Yes. The title of the day is International Women's Day. Ladies infers the "fair, gentle sex". It is at least a little more considered than using "girl" which happens a lot.
I know you and I will never agree on this point as we view feminism and sexism in different ways. I do challenge casual sexism (racism/homophobia etc.) as it entrenches the behaviours and the social conditioning behind it to ignore it.
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"Not celebrating it myself, by accident of birth I am female, whoopie-doo.
I don't need special treatment ta, or to be somehow distinguished as special compared to men.
There's 3.5 billion of us, not like we're in decline and need a telethon or anything.
You weren't born a woman. You were turned into what society deems women to be. You were born female.
Semantics.
That might be true for you but it really isn't for a lot of women across the world.
It's not about being distinguished as special compared to men it is about addressing the inequalities women face.
The title of the thread even manages to show the casual everyday sexism women still face in this country.
what by calling them ladies
Yes. The title of the day is International Women's Day. Ladies infers the "fair, gentle sex". It is at least a little more considered than using "girl" which happens a lot.
I know you and I will never agree on this point as we view feminism and sexism in different ways. I do challenge casual sexism (racism/homophobia etc.) as it entrenches the behaviours and the social conditioning behind it to ignore it.
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complaint about someone being called a lady (albeit they got the name wrong, its the word lady you seem to have a problem with)is in my opinion ridiculous, surely someone can be a feminist without going to the extreme.
You do more harm than good for feminism with what I consider in my opinion to be radical views
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By *icketysplitsWoman
over a year ago
Way over Yonder, that's where I'm bound |
"Not celebrating it myself, by accident of birth I am female, whoopie-doo.
I don't need special treatment ta, or to be somehow distinguished as special compared to men.
There's 3.5 billion of us, not like we're in decline and need a telethon or anything.
You weren't born a woman. You were turned into what society deems women to be. You were born female.
Semantics.
That might be true for you but it really isn't for a lot of women across the world.
It's not about being distinguished as special compared to men it is about addressing the inequalities women face.
The title of the thread even manages to show the casual everyday sexism women still face in this country.
what by calling them ladies
Yes. The title of the day is International Women's Day. Ladies infers the "fair, gentle sex". It is at least a little more considered than using "girl" which happens a lot.
I know you and I will never agree on this point as we view feminism and sexism in different ways. I do challenge casual sexism (racism/homophobia etc.) as it entrenches the behaviours and the social conditioning behind it to ignore it.
complaint about someone being called a lady (albeit they got the name wrong, its the word lady you seem to have a problem with)is in my opinion ridiculous, surely someone can be a feminist without going to the extreme.
You do more harm than good for feminism with what I consider in my opinion to be radical views
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And there we will differ as I don't think my views are radical or extreme.
I love men, I am involved in raising males to be future men, I am fairly feminine and enjoy the differences between men and women. I just fight for the difference to be acknowledged as different but equal.
International Women's Day is not so much about what happens in the UK or the west, for me. It is about the inequalities faced by women across the world. Many more extreme than anything we face here.
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"Not celebrating it myself, by accident of birth I am female, whoopie-doo.
I don't need special treatment ta, or to be somehow distinguished as special compared to men.
There's 3.5 billion of us, not like we're in decline and need a telethon or anything.
You weren't born a woman. You were turned into what society deems women to be. You were born female.
Semantics.
That might be true for you but it really isn't for a lot of women across the world.
It's not about being distinguished as special compared to men it is about addressing the inequalities women face.
The title of the thread even manages to show the casual everyday sexism women still face in this country.
what by calling them ladies
Yes. The title of the day is International Women's Day. Ladies infers the "fair, gentle sex". It is at least a little more considered than using "girl" which happens a lot.
I know you and I will never agree on this point as we view feminism and sexism in different ways. I do challenge casual sexism (racism/homophobia etc.) as it entrenches the behaviours and the social conditioning behind it to ignore it.
complaint about someone being called a lady (albeit they got the name wrong, its the word lady you seem to have a problem with)is in my opinion ridiculous, surely someone can be a feminist without going to the extreme.
You do more harm than good for feminism with what I consider in my opinion to be radical views
And there we will differ as I don't think my views are radical or extreme.
I love men, I am involved in raising males to be future men, I am fairly feminine and enjoy the differences between men and women. I just fight for the difference to be acknowledged as different but equal.
International Women's Day is not so much about what happens in the UK or the west, for me. It is about the inequalities faced by women across the world. Many more extreme than anything we face here.
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I know what international women's day is, however you would get more people listening to you in what I do believe are radical views if you toned them down.
You could discuss female circumsizion or something else as important instead of nick picking because someone chooses to use the word lady because YOU associate it as being considered the fairer sex.
If you concentrated on the more important things people would listen instead of getting their backs up over something trivial
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By *icketysplitsWoman
over a year ago
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International Women's Day is not so much about what happens in the UK or the west, for me. It is about the inequalities faced by women across the world. Many more extreme than anything we face here.
I know what international women's day is, however you would get more people listening to you in what I do believe are radical views if you toned them down.
You could discuss female circumsizion or something else as important instead of nick picking because someone chooses to use the word lady because YOU associate it as being considered the fairer sex.
If you concentrated on the more important things people would listen instead of getting their backs up over something trivial
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I have discussed the serious issues on here and have been slated just as much as for what some consider nit picking.
Have a look at the everyday sexism project, or not, I believe the words we use embeds behaviours and social conditioning. We don't use the "n" word any more about black people for that reason. They are just words and no word is out of bounds in my view but HOW they are used should be considered.
That's all I am saying. Some will agree and some won't. Being seen as extreme/radical for use of language or for standing up for something more serious it is how some on here view me. That's fine: I'm not changing.
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By (user no longer on site)
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The title of the thread even manages to show the casual everyday sexism women still face in this country.
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Not sure what amused/bemused me more, getting the name wrong or the flippant ill-informed comment about "celebrating". As you say it highlights perfectly the casual lazy sexism that is commonplace.
The whole tone of the post and header is patronising and demeaning.
I'm failing to see anything extreme or radical about any of Lickety's posts. |
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I know what international women's day is, however you would get more people listening to you in what I do believe are radical views if you toned them down.
You could discuss female circumsizion or something else as important instead of nick picking because someone chooses to use the word lady because YOU associate it as being considered the fairer sex.
If you concentrated on the more important things people would listen instead of getting their backs up over something trivial
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I kinda need to agree.
In an unfamiliar pub, restaurant or whatever I would ask "Which way is it to the ladies?"... with no association to fairer, weaker or wondering if my bussel will fit over the pan. |
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By *icketysplitsWoman
over a year ago
Way over Yonder, that's where I'm bound |
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I know what international women's day is, however you would get more people listening to you in what I do believe are radical views if you toned them down.
You could discuss female circumsizion or something else as important instead of nick picking because someone chooses to use the word lady because YOU associate it as being considered the fairer sex.
If you concentrated on the more important things people would listen instead of getting their backs up over something trivial
I kinda need to agree.
In an unfamiliar pub, restaurant or whatever I would ask "Which way is it to the ladies?"... with no association to fairer, weaker or wondering if my bussel will fit over the pan. "
Context. Perhaps the use of ladies for you relates to toilets.
I haven't got the energy to argue the point with everyone so I give up now.
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Context. Perhaps the use of ladies for you relates to toilets.
I haven't got the energy to argue the point with everyone so I give up now.
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Perhaps some people use the word 'lady' or 'ladies' to try and be polite... nothing more.
Responding by slapping them with a 'sexist' label (no matter how casual) isn't usually conducive to opening minds. |
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Raising my glass to all us amazing women. Been reading a few 'women' quotes and this is my favourite from a Chinese/American stand up comic(m)Sheng Wang:
"Why do people say "grow some balls"? Balls are weak and sensitive. If you wanna be tough, grow a vagina. Those things can take a pounding” |
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By (user no longer on site)
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Context. Perhaps the use of ladies for you relates to toilets.
I haven't got the energy to argue the point with everyone so I give up now.
Perhaps some people use the word 'lady' or 'ladies' to try and be polite... nothing more.
Responding by slapping them with a 'sexist' label (no matter how casual) isn't usually conducive to opening minds."
But you are ignoring the context. Ladies and Gents are the common name for toilets. Nothing offensive about that. And there are plenty of other contexts where it is fine. But a thread about International Women's Day that get's the name wrong and asks how it is celebrated? Sorry but I think Lickety and DB9 Queen were right to challenge the original post. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Raising my glass to all us amazing women. Been reading a few 'women' quotes and this is my favourite from a Chinese/American stand up comic(m)Sheng Wang:
"Why do people say "grow some balls"? Balls are weak and sensitive. If you wanna be tough, grow a vagina. Those things can take a pounding”"
Brill!!!!! I love that. Did you know that in child birth the uterus has pressures exerted on it that a equivalent to 4 rolls royces bearing down on the membrane? The only thing that stops the muscle tearing is .......Oestrogen. Despite my frivolity above World women's day is a valid celebration and without doubt within the homosapien species they are the best!  |
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Context. Perhaps the use of ladies for you relates to toilets.
I haven't got the energy to argue the point with everyone so I give up now.
Perhaps some people use the word 'lady' or 'ladies' to try and be polite... nothing more.
Responding by slapping them with a 'sexist' label (no matter how casual) isn't usually conducive to opening minds.
But you are ignoring the context. Ladies and Gents are the common name for toilets. Nothing offensive about that. And there are plenty of other contexts where it is fine. But a thread about International Women's Day that get's the name wrong and asks how it is celebrated? Sorry but I think Lickety and DB9 Queen were right to challenge the original post. "
Far from ignoring the context, I am considering it.
If someone has got the wrong end of the stick in terms of what Women's Day is all about, telling them they are being sexists is not the most effective means of addressing their lack of understanding.
I bet the poor fucker won't be celebrating it now. |
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"Raising my glass to all us amazing women. Been reading a few 'women' quotes and this is my favourite from a Chinese/American stand up comic(m)Sheng Wang:
"Why do people say "grow some balls"? Balls are weak and sensitive. If you wanna be tough, grow a vagina. Those things can take a pounding”Brill!!!!! I love that. Did you know that in child birth the uterus has pressures exerted on it that a equivalent to 4 rolls royces bearing down on the membrane? The only thing that stops the muscle tearing is .......Oestrogen. Despite my frivolity above World women's day is a valid celebration and without doubt within the homosapien species they are the best! "
We're not bad! |
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By *ezebelWoman
over a year ago
North of The Wall - youll need your vest |
However there are a few countries where the day is well and truly 'celebrated' as a cross between Mothers Day and Valentines Day - flowers, chocolates, cards, nights out etc.
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By *B9 QueenWoman
over a year ago
Over the rainbow, under the bridge |
"no i mean sexuality...gender is obvious sexuality not so"
Why? To make ourselves available to men more?
Oh purleez!
International Women's Day is about highlighting the inequalities, prejudice and abuse women across the globe still suffer.
It's not a celebration. FGM , domestic abuse, sexual exploitation, slavery, trafficking, rape, etc, are not issues to be 'celebrated'.
And, before anyone asks, the Men's Day is in November apparently. |
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By *B9 QueenWoman
over a year ago
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"Not celebrating it myself, by accident of birth I am female, whoopie-doo.
I don't need special treatment ta, or to be somehow distinguished as special compared to men.
There's 3.5 billion of us, not like we're in decline and need a telethon or anything.
You weren't born a woman. You were turned into what society deems women to be. You were born female.
Semantics.
That might be true for you but it really isn't for a lot of women across the world.
It's not about being distinguished as special compared to men it is about addressing the inequalities women face.
The title of the thread even manages to show the casual everyday sexism women still face in this country.
what by calling them ladies "
Yes actually though you may not have realised nor intended it to be.
1. The term 'ladies' presupposes a particular and restrictive set of behaviours which used to be imposed on women.
2. The use of the term 'ladies' is used as a 'polite' way of referring to women which infers being called a woman is insulting thereby suggesting that being a woman is not a desirable condition.
I am not a lady I am a woman, and I decide what is appropriate behaviour for me. |
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"Not celebrating it myself, by accident of birth I am female, whoopie-doo.
I don't need special treatment ta, or to be somehow distinguished as special compared to men.
There's 3.5 billion of us, not like we're in decline and need a telethon or anything.
You weren't born a woman. You were turned into what society deems women to be. You were born female.
Semantics.
That might be true for you but it really isn't for a lot of women across the world.
It's not about being distinguished as special compared to men it is about addressing the inequalities women face.
The title of the thread even manages to show the casual everyday sexism women still face in this country.
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OK, forgive me for not thinking that women in Utar Pradesh or deepest Congo are jumping for joy about Womens Day knowing their life is about to change (whilst also worrying about the pejorative use of the world lady). Lots of collective quangos -largely middle class western ones -get together to do lots of pretty yet pretty ineffective things that will never change the fate of the overwhelming majority of the worlds population, female or otherwise. Least they can give themselves a pat on the back though eh?
Inequality is rife in different ways for different groups. Men working in mining in some countries have terrible lives, men get castrated for being gay in some countries, albinos are tortured and prized for body parts in some countries.
Children work as soon as they wak in some countries.
In reality life is really good for the very few, male or female. We're the lucky ones, sitting at our PCS on swingers sites.
I prefer to do more direct and creative things to help others, men, women, child and animal. Just like valentines I don't need an annual day to tell me I'm in love I don't need a womens day to remind me about the plight of women. Why don't they plough all the millions they absorb to create this day to directly educate and lift people out of poverty? |
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