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Who believes in Dejas vu "
I think it's early days for the young Brazilian. He certainly has the potential to become one of the greats but signing so young for so much money can bring it's own pressures. Do I believe in him yet? No. |
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By *londeCazWoman
over a year ago
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I'm slightly envious of anyone with strong faith, often they can cope with losses/troubles by believing it to be God's* will. There are some devout Christians in my family (yep, really) - they are not evangelical or dismissive of my agnosticism and we joke about our beliefs (or my lack of it). I don't like having religion forced down my throat (unless it's written in edible marker on a cock) 
*Other deities are available |
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By *nnyMan
over a year ago
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"......... I don't like having religion forced down my throat (unless it's written in edible marker on a cock)
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I believe that's the technique used by paedophile priests. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Was brought up with a very religious mother an still know the bible quite well but decided many yrs ago what a crock of shit. You've 1 life so live it an enjoy it its over in a blink"
You could be more respectful about it though? |
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By *nnyMan
over a year ago
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"Millions of children starving to death cause of no water to drink or grow crops to eat . You think if there was a god he could at least make it rain "
....... or at least make it rain in the places that need it and NOT in the places that don't  |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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We have the technology to prevent flooding in this country...
We have the technology to bring clean water to many regions of the third world...
And... We have world leaders who don't give a sh*t about either....
Hardly God's fault...  |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"We have the technology to prevent flooding in this country...
We have the technology to bring clean water to many regions of the third world...
And... We have world leaders who don't give a sh*t about either....
Hardly God's fault... "
Be quicker if he did it though |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"We have the technology to prevent flooding in this country...
We have the technology to bring clean water to many regions of the third world...
And... We have world leaders who don't give a sh*t about either....
Hardly God's fault... Be quicker if he did it though "
If the right people in the right places had done the right thing at the right time with all the tools given to them.... We would never have gotten into the many situations we find ourselves in today... |
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None of the human invented god or creator concepts have any basis for a reasoned human to take an outlandish position of belief.
A creator concept always creates more contradictions and raises more circular questions than the concept Solves or removes
Did I just read that someone thinks humans could have prevented all flooding in the UK ? Next I'll be told we can stand on the shore side and prevent the tide
It amazes me that so many who hope a god exist defend the fact that any plausible creator would have to have the phrase "violently sadistic torturously malevolent" as part of its definition
A parasite such as malaria either evolved , which is nigh on beyond doubt or it was meticulously designed to do exactly what it does
Luckily the product from the fertile minds of imaginative often manipulative humans cannot exist  |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Luckily the product from the fertile minds of imaginative often manipulative humans cannot exist "
And yet, clearly, your opinion disproves your own premis... |
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"No
Why not?
Because I've never seen anything to make me believe other wise
That's why they rely on 'faith'."
You do have faith. Everyone breathes in oxygen to survive. But you cant see it, you cant feel it, you can hear it, you cant smell it, you cant taste it. So why does everyone think it is there? Because they have absolute faith in what they have been told. For me science is no different to religion, it is still based on faith. So even if you dont believe in religion, you certainly do believe in something. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"No
Why not?
Because I've never seen anything to make me believe other wise
That's why they rely on 'faith'.
You do have faith. Everyone breathes in oxygen to survive. But you cant see it, you cant feel it, you can hear it, you cant smell it, you cant taste it. So why does everyone think it is there? Because they have absolute faith in what they have been told. For me science is no different to religion, it is still based on faith. So even if you dont believe in religion, you certainly do believe in something. "
We can prove oxygen exists though. |
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"No
Why not?
Because I've never seen anything to make me believe other wise
That's why they rely on 'faith'.
You do have faith. Everyone breathes in oxygen to survive. But you cant see it, you cant feel it, you can hear it, you cant smell it, you cant taste it. So why does everyone think it is there? Because they have absolute faith in what they have been told. For me science is no different to religion, it is still based on faith. So even if you dont believe in religion, you certainly do believe in something.
We can prove oxygen exists though. "
How? |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Who believes in God?
And if not, why not?"
No because you have to understand the concept of the written language to be dyslexic, so a dog doesn't know it is a dog let alone that it could be miss-spealt |
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"No
Why not?
Because I've never seen anything to make me believe other wise
That's why they rely on 'faith'.
You do have faith. Everyone breathes in oxygen to survive. But you cant see it, you cant feel it, you can hear it, you cant smell it, you cant taste it. So why does everyone think it is there? Because they have absolute faith in what they have been told. For me science is no different to religion, it is still based on faith. So even if you dont believe in religion, you certainly do believe in something.
We can prove oxygen exists though.
How? "
Light a candle, put a pint glass over it, when the oxygen is consumed the candle goes out. The flame requires oxygen to exist, when it no longer exists neither does the oxygen. I'm sure some clever chemist of physicist could give you better examples, the only way to prove god exists is to die… bit late then.
I also have a flue gas analyser that will tell me exactly how much oxygen is available, other people have done the clever stuff, so I don't have to. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"No
Why not?
Because I've never seen anything to make me believe other wise
That's why they rely on 'faith'.
You do have faith. Everyone breathes in oxygen to survive. But you cant see it, you cant feel it, you can hear it, you cant smell it, you cant taste it. So why does everyone think it is there? Because they have absolute faith in what they have been told. For me science is no different to religion, it is still based on faith. So even if you dont believe in religion, you certainly do believe in something.
We can prove oxygen exists though.
How? "
Someone may sit down and do an experiment and conclude that it proves oxygen exists, but you havent proved it have you. You just believe it exists because everyone says it is does. If since birth you were told you were breathing in invisible bubbles, you would of believed that instead. It is all faith. |
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"You do have faith. Everyone breathes in oxygen to survive. But you cant see it, you cant feel it, you can hear it, you cant smell it, you cant taste it. So why does everyone think it is there? Because they have absolute faith in what they have been told. "
What would you say if I told you there was a teapot orbiting the earth?
(this argument bought to you by Bertrand Russell...) |
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"Someone may sit down and do an experiment and conclude that it proves oxygen exists, but you havent proved it have you. You just believe it exists because everyone says it is does. If since birth you were told you were breathing in invisible bubbles, you would of believed that instead. It is all faith. "
Oxygen is a gas that can be isolated, identified and measured in proportion to the other gasses in the atmosphere, we know at what temperature it becomes liquid, and even solid.
in fact we are so advanced in detecting measuring and using oxygen that retentively cheap and accurate detectors are available for a number of functions to measure it.
Yes the name is one we know because we grew up with it, they could have named it keith instead of oxygen but it would still be identifiable and usable in many ways one of which is maintaining life in organic compounds originating on this planet. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"You do have faith. Everyone breathes in oxygen to survive. But you cant see it, you cant feel it, you can hear it, you cant smell it, you cant taste it. So why does everyone think it is there? Because they have absolute faith in what they have been told.
What would you say if I told you there was a teapot orbiting the earth?
(this argument bought to you by Bertrand Russell...)"
I would say there isnt. However, if since I was born everyone was telling me there was a teapot orbiting the earth, I would probably believe it. Because its about faith. |
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"Someone may sit down and do an experiment and conclude that it proves oxygen exists, but you havent proved it have you. You just believe it exists because everyone says it is does. If since birth you were told you were breathing in invisible bubbles, you would of believed that instead. It is all faith.
Oxygen is a gas that can be isolated, identified and measured in proportion to the other gasses in the atmosphere, we know at what temperature it becomes liquid, and even solid.
in fact we are so advanced in detecting measuring and using oxygen that retentively cheap and accurate detectors are available for a number of functions to measure it.
Yes the name is one we know because we grew up with it, they could have named it keith instead of oxygen but it would still be identifiable and usable in many ways one of which is maintaining life in organic compounds originating on this planet."
Maybe I sm not explaining it well. Yes I believe there is oxygen, yes I believe machines and experiments prove it. But in reality, I havnt done sny of these experiments. I just read about it. So really I am putting my faith in this concept of oxygen am I not? We all do it. We all put faith in concepts. |
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"Someone may sit down and do an experiment and conclude that it proves oxygen exists, but you havent proved it have you. You just believe it exists because everyone says it is does. If since birth you were told you were breathing in invisible bubbles, you would of believed that instead. It is all faith. "
Science is full of perfectly repeatable, empirical proofs of all kinds of mysterious, invisible things that if you care to read about them you will see that it has nothing to do with faith.
Human history is full of ignorant people believing all kinds of whacky stuff until someone discovered what was actually going on.
In my opinion organised religion only differs from insanity because lots of other people believe in your imaginary friend too. If it's just you that talks to some guy up in the sky you get put in a padded cell. |
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"Someone may sit down and do an experiment and conclude that it proves oxygen exists, but you havent proved it have you. You just believe it exists because everyone says it is does. If since birth you were told you were breathing in invisible bubbles, you would of believed that instead. It is all faith.
Oxygen is a gas that can be isolated, identified and measured in proportion to the other gasses in the atmosphere, we know at what temperature it becomes liquid, and even solid.
in fact we are so advanced in detecting measuring and using oxygen that retentively cheap and accurate detectors are available for a number of functions to measure it.
Yes the name is one we know because we grew up with it, they could have named it keith instead of oxygen but it would still be identifiable and usable in many ways one of which is maintaining life in organic compounds originating on this planet."
 and when you liquefy or solidify it you can physically see and measure it.
If we can't prove something it is a theory. If we can it is fact. Faith is the belief of a theory without the proof. |
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"So really I am putting my faith in this concept of oxygen am I not? We all do it. We all put faith in concepts. "
Oxygen is not a "concept", it's a proven and accepted scientific fact. There's a difference. |
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"Someone may sit down and do an experiment and conclude that it proves oxygen exists, but you havent proved it have you. You just believe it exists because everyone says it is does. If since birth you were told you were breathing in invisible bubbles, you would of believed that instead. It is all faith.
Science is full of perfectly repeatable, empirical proofs of all kinds of mysterious, invisible things that if you care to read about them you will see that it has nothing to do with faith.
Human history is full of ignorant people believing all kinds of whacky stuff until someone discovered what was actually going on.
In my opinion organised religion only differs from insanity because lots of other people believe in your imaginary friend too. If it's just you that talks to some guy up in the sky you get put in a padded cell."
Possibly but one thing you cant deny is things like religion can explain the unexplainable and it is human nature to need to explain everything so it works on that level |
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"Its just my belief anyway. Most people will probably disagree with me. Anyway, time for bed lol "
I believe you are right about that, goodnight.
As for the god thing not for me, but glad you are happy in your faith. |
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"I often wonder why bad things happen to good people and geood things happen yo bad people. If there was any kind of god surely these things wouldn't happen.
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But then how would we feel all the different emotions. As a good person, if only good things happened to you, youbwould never feel sad or angry. You wouldnt be human if you couldnt feel those things |
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"Its just my belief anyway. Most people will probably disagree with me. Anyway, time for bed lol
I believe you are right about that, goodnight.
As for the god thing not for me, but glad you are happy in your faith. "
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"Possibly but one thing you cant deny is things like religion can explain the unexplainable and it is human nature to need to explain everything so it works on that level "
I disagree that it "explains" the unexplainable. Saying something is due to God/Allah/The Flying Spaghetti Monster is fallacious.
Look up the burden of proof with regard to philosophical discussion. |
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"I often wonder why bad things happen to good people and geood things happen yo bad people. If there was any kind of god surely these things wouldn't happen.
But then how would we feel all the different emotions. As a good person, if only good things happened to you, youbwould never feel sad or angry. You wouldnt be human if you couldnt feel those things "
If we never felt such things we wouldn't know any different. |
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"Someone may sit down and do an experiment and conclude that it proves oxygen exists, but you havent proved it have you. You just believe it exists because everyone says it is does. If since birth you were told you were breathing in invisible bubbles, you would of believed that instead. It is all faith.
Science is full of perfectly repeatable, empirical proofs of all kinds of mysterious, invisible things that if you care to read about them you will see that it has nothing to do with faith.
Human history is full of ignorant people believing all kinds of whacky stuff until someone discovered what was actually going on.
In my opinion organised religion only differs from insanity because lots of other people believe in your imaginary friend too. If it's just you that talks to some guy up in the sky you get put in a padded cell.
Possibly but one thing you cant deny is things like religion can explain the unexplainable and it is human nature to need to explain everything so it works on that level "
The whole point is it doesn't explain the unexplainable. Its a fabrication dreamed up by Man to give a reason for all the stuff he doesn't understand. As Man's knowledge and understanding has developed the concept of God has become increasingly redundant except as a crutch for people to lean on or as an excuse to impose the will of some over the will of others. |
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"Possibly but one thing you cant deny is things like religion can explain the unexplainable and it is human nature to need to explain everything so it works on that level
I disagree that it "explains" the unexplainable. Saying something is due to God/Allah/The Flying Spaghetti Monster is fallacious.
Look up the burden of proof with regard to philosophical discussion. "
Ok ill give you an example. Not religion ill use witchcraft which everyone now accepts doesnt ecist but look at what it did.
So a man in a small village is working under a granary. He is storing rice for the winter. Suddenly the granary brakes and falls on the man killing him instantly.
A local doctor says witchcraft is responsible. A western man says 'no it is the termites which have weakened the granary and thats why it fell'. The local doctor says ' ah but why did it fall on that particular man and at that moment, the exact moment the man was underneath the granary' . The western man would say it is just bad luck because he cant explain why it happended at the very moment the man was underneath. But by brlieving in witchcraft, the dr could say witchcraft was cast on the man which explains why it was him under the granary and not anybody else and at the exact same time when it fell. So it explained the unexplainable. |
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"Someone may sit down and do an experiment and conclude that it proves oxygen exists, but you havent proved it have you. You just believe it exists because everyone says it is does. If since birth you were told you were breathing in invisible bubbles, you would of believed that instead. It is all faith.
Science is full of perfectly repeatable, empirical proofs of all kinds of mysterious, invisible things that if you care to read about them you will see that it has nothing to do with faith.
Human history is full of ignorant people believing all kinds of whacky stuff until someone discovered what was actually going on.
In my opinion organised religion only differs from insanity because lots of other people believe in your imaginary friend too. If it's just you that talks to some guy up in the sky you get put in a padded cell.
Possibly but one thing you cant deny is things like religion can explain the unexplainable and it is human nature to need to explain everything so it works on that level
The whole point is it doesn't explain the unexplainable. Its a fabrication dreamed up by Man to give a reason for all the stuff he doesn't understand. As Man's knowledge and understanding has developed the concept of God has become increasingly redundant except as a crutch for people to lean on or as an excuse to impose the will of some over the will of others."
I am not saying it is correct. I just said it has it uses in explaining the unexplainable |
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To "believe" is to accept a concept in your mind for which there is no actual physical evidence -
- it is to follow an idea, an image, even a dream -
- and an idea, an image, a dream, can only ever be that - it cannot of itself be reality -
- therefore if you "believe" in a god, then by the very nature of that belief, god cannot be real....
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"To "believe" is to accept a concept in your mind for which there is no actual physical evidence -
- it is to follow an idea, an image, even a dream -
- and an idea, an image, a dream, can only ever be that - it cannot of itself be reality -
- therefore if you "believe" in a god, then by the very nature of that belief, god cannot be real....
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Nicely played!
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Ok ill give you an example. Not religion ill use witchcraft which everyone now accepts doesnt ecist but look at what it did.
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Now see you are making a huge assumption there. I don't accept that witchcraft doesn't exist, but if I did then that would be partial proof that the Christian god doesn't exist. Witchcraft and doing magic are both specifically forbidden in the Old Testament. If god exists why would he forbid something that doesn't exist?
Witchcraft was / is many other things that are proven and used on a daily basis by most of us. Pretty much everything available on the nhs came from it. Along with physics chemistry etc.
But if we are to take your views as the absolute truth, why did god want to kill that guy by making the granary fall on him?
Just about the only reason left for god to exist is to reduce fear of death, and for many that is enough reason to keep god going. |
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Ok ill give you an example. Not religion ill use witchcraft which everyone now accepts doesnt ecist but look at what it did.
Now see you are making a huge assumption there. I don't accept that witchcraft doesn't exist, but if I did then that would be partial proof that the Christian god doesn't exist. Witchcraft and doing magic are both specifically forbidden in the Old Testament. If god exists why would he forbid something that doesn't exist?
Witchcraft was / is many other things that are proven and used on a daily basis by most of us. Pretty much everything available on the nhs came from it. Along with physics chemistry etc.
But if we are to take your views as the absolute truth, why did god want to kill that guy by making the granary fall on him?
Just about the only reason left for god to exist is to reduce fear of death, and for many that is enough reason to keep god going. "
Yeah true, some people do believe in it. Ill take that back. The granary example just shows how things like religion play an important role in explaining the unexplainable. In the west, we use things like 'luck' to explain simikar events. But some communities do not have the notion of luck, it doesnt exist for them. So they then use another way of explaining the world around them. In this case, the tribes belief in witchcraft did the job. It is hunan nature to want to have everything explained but everyone has different belief systems. Some will use science and luck to explain granary fall, others witchcraft, others religion etc etc. What they all do is help us view the world better. I think its all interesting stuff, but like I said before, I accept others wont think the same as me so it makes things interesting. |
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Ok ill give you an example. Not religion ill use witchcraft which everyone now accepts doesnt ecist but look at what it did.
Now see you are making a huge assumption there. I don't accept that witchcraft doesn't exist, but if I did then that would be partial proof that the Christian god doesn't exist. Witchcraft and doing magic are both specifically forbidden in the Old Testament. If god exists why would he forbid something that doesn't exist?
Witchcraft was / is many other things that are proven and used on a daily basis by most of us. Pretty much everything available on the nhs came from it. Along with physics chemistry etc.
But if we are to take your views as the absolute truth, why did god want to kill that guy by making the granary fall on him?
Just about the only reason left for god to exist is to reduce fear of death, and for many that is enough reason to keep god going.
Yeah true, some people do believe in it. Ill take that back. The granary example just shows how things like religion play an important role in explaining the unexplainable. In the west, we use things like 'luck' to explain simikar events. But some communities do not have the notion of luck, it doesnt exist for them. So they then use another way of explaining the world around them. In this case, the tribes belief in witchcraft did the job. It is hunan nature to want to have everything explained but everyone has different belief systems. Some will use science and luck to explain granary fall, others witchcraft, others religion etc etc. What they all do is help us view the world better. I think its all interesting stuff, but like I said before, I accept others wont think the same as me so it makes things interesting. "
Who is the beneficiary of the witchcraft explanation? It is the HUMAN who claims to be able to put a curse on another person. They rise to power and importance on the back of fear of the unknown or unexplained. All religions (which are all uniquely man made) rely on explaining the unexplained to attract conditioned followers. |
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So a man in a small village is working under a granary. He is storing rice for the winter. Suddenly the granary brakes and falls on the man killing him instantly.
A local doctor says witchcraft is responsible. A western man says 'no it is the termites which have weakened the granary and thats why it fell'. The local doctor says ' ah but why did it fall on that particular man and at that moment, the exact moment the man was underneath the granary' . The western man would say it is just bad luck because he cant explain why it happended at the very moment the man was underneath. But by brlieving in witchcraft, the dr could say witchcraft was cast on the man which explains why it was him under the granary and not anybody else and at the exact same time when it fell. So it explained the unexplainable. "
no it does'nt..
its a poor example and anyway on the basis of one piece of fiction you believe that religion explains the unexplainable..
its totally explainable in that with any structure which is gradually weakened it will collapse, if your under it or on it you are involved and may be hurt..
called gravity, which is a proven fact not a faith.. |
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its totally explainable in that with any structure which is gradually weakened it will collapse, if your under it or on it you are involved and may be hurt..
called gravity, which is a proven fact not a faith.."
But the man who dies was tgere the exact second it collapse. Since his birth, there are billions and billions things that could of happened which meant he was there at the exact time. You and I will ssy thats bad luck. But what if you had no notion of luck? How could you explain it? Thats where other belief structures come in. I am not saying they are correct, I am just saying they are there to help people view the world in a way that makes sense to them. So I can see uses for these beliefs. |
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As I said earlier, I am happy that you are happy in your belief.
I have a collection of sayings which get me through.
1 From the pagan world but modified by me. "Do thy will, but do minimum harm to others" (original was "harm none")
2 Apparently from Forest Gump "Shit Happens"
3 Possibly from me "Death is an adventure, we may see what comes next"
All these get me through life pretty well without a belief in god or any other outside agency to blame for my fuck ups. |
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Who is the beneficiary of the witchcraft explanation? It is the HUMAN who claims to be able to put a curse on another person. They rise to power and importance on the back of fear of the unknown or unexplained. All religions (which are all uniquely man made) rely on explaining the unexplained to attract conditioned followers. "
Yeah I agree with you, they can be used to attract followers etc and not always used for good.but can you see with that small granary example how beliefs are used within society to make sense of the world? Again I am not saying it is right or wrong, but you can see the use of it. |
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its totally explainable in that with any structure which is gradually weakened it will collapse, if your under it or on it you are involved and may be hurt..
called gravity, which is a proven fact not a faith..
But the man who dies was tgere the exact second it collapse. Since his birth, there are billions and billions things that could of happened which meant he was there at the exact time. You and I will ssy thats bad luck. But what if you had no notion of luck? How could you explain it? Thats where other belief structures come in. I am not saying they are correct, I am just saying they are there to help people view the world in a way that makes sense to them. So I can see uses for these beliefs. "
fate, your numbers up etc..
in the instance you gave it was avoidable perhaps but shit happens in life..
on the actual faith thing i am torn between ffs stop being a mug and awe for those who have faith whatever that belief is to them..
if thats what gets them through their day and its not harming others then let them crack on with it..
sadly there has allways been a minority who will use a faith as an excuse or as a reason to gain power, murder others etc..
easy to see why many look at it in that way plus perhaps its an easy excuse to do so..
would think that in fully accepting a faith at a point in ones life where your views are formed etc takes a lot of personal challenge in looking at oneself..
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"but can you see with that small granary example how beliefs are used within society to make sense of the world? Again I am not saying it is right or wrong, but you can see the use of it. "
Certainly can, the use is to gain power over others, by claiming superiority.
The other options would be to blame the person who should have been inspecting for termites (probably the dead guy) and declaring shit happens over the result. |
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"As I said earlier, I am happy that you are happy in your belief.
I have a collection of sayings which get me through.
1 From the pagan world but modified by me. "Do thy will, but do minimum harm to others" (original was "harm none")
2 Apparently from Forest Gump "Shit Happens"
3 Possibly from me "Death is an adventure, we may see what comes next"
All these get me through life pretty well without a belief in god or any other outside agency to blame for my fuck ups."
So the second saying 'shit happens' is to do with luck right. Sometimes you have good luck and sometimes shit happens, bad luck
But what if you didnt have the notion of luck in your world? Some people do not believe in luck remember. You would need something else there instead. I.e religion. Those are the sayings you live by which is great and they work round how you view the world. But everyones is different. |
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"but can you see with that small granary example how beliefs are used within society to make sense of the world? Again I am not saying it is right or wrong, but you can see the use of it.
Certainly can, the use is to gain power over others, by claiming superiority.
The other options would be to blame the person who should have been inspecting for termites (probably the dead guy) and declaring shit happens over the result. "
You are looking to explain the incident using your own view of the world. That is fine and plaisible. But people font have the same view on world. Othrrs will believe there are other reason why it happened but then why is it less plausible? We only think it is because it is not the same view as us. Yet it still does the same thing, which is to explain how event happened. |
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religion is the biggest killer in the world it has divided nations made friend kill friend uprooted family's brought disaster were once there was calm. so my question is if there is a god were is he and why has he not be on trial for all these crimes against humanity |
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By *nnyMan
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"I often wonder why bad things happen to good people and geood things happen yo bad people. If there was any kind of god surely these things wouldn't happen.
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If there were any kind of Dog, would there be bad people? |
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"So the second saying 'shit happens' is to do with luck right. "
No it has nothing to do with luck, Shit Happens for a reason, in the granary example it was due to someone not bothering to check for termites once a year. That is personal responsibility not blaming some great invisible power as an excuse for carelessness. OR perhaps he just wanted to take the next adventure and was happy to get a building on his head. |
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No god,no heaven,no hell!
You get one shot at life take it squeeze the life from it and don't worry about some bearded halfwit sat on a cloud.
BTW adults who believe in God are the same as adults who believe in Father Christmas |
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I just had a packet of smokey bacon crisps and they were delicious.
I wanted everyone to know but didn't want to start a thread so thought I'd just put that here. |
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"So the second saying 'shit happens' is to do with luck right.
No it has nothing to do with luck, Shit Happens for a reason, in the granary example it was due to someone not bothering to check for termites once a year. That is personal responsibility not blaming some great invisible power as an excuse for carelessness. OR perhaps he just wanted to take the next adventure and was happy to get a building on his head."
That explains why granary fell yes. But why at the exact day, min or second that particular individual was under there? Since birth billions of factors could have meant he was not there at the time the granary fell. But he was. Science just cant not explain that si you and I would put it down to bad luck. Witchcraft can however explain this without this notion of luck. Someone cursed the guy which is why the granary fell at the exact time he was under it. Now that sounds stupid to you because you have a completely fifferent way of looking at things. My point simply is that there are many ways to look at how the world works and they make sense to the people who view the wotld in that wsy. They act to make sense of the world to yhe individual and so there are uses for such beliefs.
Now I am not particularly religious and I dont believe in things like witchcraft. My belief structure ptobably quite similar to yours by the sounds of things. But I can see why people have belief in other things and can appreciate it because I can see to them, it explains things, just in a different way to what my ideas and beliefs would explain things.  . Anyway, I think I have ssid enough on this thread lol |
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"I just had a packet of smokey bacon crisps and they were delicious.
I wanted everyone to know but didn't want to start a thread so thought I'd just put that here."
That is worth staring a thread about lol do it. |
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"religion is the biggest killer in the world it has divided nations made friend kill friend uprooted family's brought disaster were once there was calm. so my question is if there is a god were is he and why has he not be on trial for all these crimes against humanity "
As bad as it sounds, death is part of life. If every person who was born never died the world could not survive because there are not enough resources. So death, not just through religion but through war, natural disasters, food shortage are all very sad, but all us to continue living as a human race. Sometimes nasty things have to happen so we can learn and experience many emotions (even if they not good ones) because those things make us who we are.no offense intended. Right deffo my last post lol |
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"religion is the biggest killer in the world it has divided nations made friend kill friend uprooted family's brought disaster were once there was calm. so my question is if there is a god were is he and why has he not be on trial for all these crimes against humanity "
All religions are man made so God, or Gods, are not responsible for the actions of their followers. God, or Gods, will exist whether or not there are religions. |
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The whole "explaining the unexplainable" is an argument from ignorance and a logical fallacy. Saying that you can't prove that God/Dog/whoever doesn't exist therefore he does is not valid reasoning.
Why does there have to be a mysterious reason why the granary fell on the guy's head? If enough people go into enough granaries it's going to happen to one of them at some point. Things occur in the universe. Sometimes two things occur at the same time. That's just how it works.
If every granary in the world collapsed at the same instant killing the occupants then I'd concede that were was something pretty odd going on there.
(but it still wouldn't be to do with religion) |
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But 2 people to start the population 
I like a good bit of fiction but really, I'm just practical 