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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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So I've received a letter from nursery today stating that they've noticed parents are collecting some children after their agreed collection time.. This letter has been given to the parents who receive the 15hrs per week grant.
So they have said that any child who is collected late will be subject to a surcharge of £1.00 per minute!!
The nursery is private, I'm wondering if this is actually allowed. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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Wow
For my pre school is five pounds for each fifteen mins that you are late
If late by 45 mins and they can't contact you they call police and report an abandoned child |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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You always have the option to remove your children and provide child-care (often known as motherhood) yourself.
On a legal basis it does sound to be an unfair contractual term, if it's a contract at all. |
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Thought they had been charging for late pick up for years .. at that rate too. not unusual in berkshire anyway. People take the piss .. dont be late picking them up..
It happens in the vets drives me crazy peoples tardiness in keeping an appointment. you get 15 mins you late you get 5 and its still going to cost the same fee.. |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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"Wow
For my pre school is five pounds for each fifteen mins that you are late
If late by 45 mins and they can't contact you they call police and report an abandoned child "
I think your fee is fair .. Regarding the 45 mins late I suppose that's fair enough |
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Standard. Lots of parents take the mick. It's prob in the contract but cos too many parents playing silly beggars they're clamping down? Most places don't mind if you're less than 15 mins late but I've heard of parents turning up 2-3hours late!! |
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"Wow
For my pre school is five pounds for each fifteen mins that you are late
If late by 45 mins and they can't contact you they call police and report an abandoned child "
its been going on since my son was little
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By (user no longer on site) OP
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You always have the option to remove your children and provide child-care (often known as motherhood) yourself.
On a legal basis it does sound to be an unfair contractual term, if it's a contract at all. "
Oh I know all about motherhood, they only attend for 3 hours per day!
I don't have a contract. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Wow
For my pre school is five pounds for each fifteen mins that you are late
If late by 45 mins and they can't contact you they call police and report an abandoned child
I think your fee is fair .. Regarding the 45 mins late I suppose that's fair enough "
They told me this when my ex forgot to pick up my son
I was devastated
But I think it's fair 
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By (user no longer on site) OP
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"Thought they had been charging for late pick up for years .. at that rate too. not unusual in berkshire anyway. People take the piss .. dont be late picking them up..
It happens in the vets drives me crazy peoples tardiness in keeping an appointment. you get 15 mins you late you get 5 and its still going to cost the same fee.."
I'm not saying there shouldn't be a late fee but just think the rate is extremely high |
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By (user no longer on site)
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You always have the option to remove your children and provide child-care (often known as motherhood) yourself.
On a legal basis it does sound to be an unfair contractual term, if it's a contract at all.
Oh I know all about motherhood, they only attend for 3 hours per day!
I don't have a contract. "
I suspect you do. It doesn't have to be written, you know. |
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You always have the option to remove your children and provide child-care (often known as motherhood) yourself.
On a legal basis it does sound to be an unfair contractual term, if it's a contract at all. "
Lol you sounded such a bloke with that statement...have you thought she might want some her time.. |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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"Wow
For my pre school is five pounds for each fifteen mins that you are late
If late by 45 mins and they can't contact you they call police and report an abandoned child
I think your fee is fair .. Regarding the 45 mins late I suppose that's fair enough
They told me this when my ex forgot to pick up my son
I was devastated
But I think it's fair
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Unfortunately some do abandon their children, nursery's need guidelines . Ide be devastated too. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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You always have the option to remove your children and provide child-care (often known as motherhood) yourself.
On a legal basis it does sound to be an unfair contractual term, if it's a contract at all.
Lol you sounded such a bloke with that statement...have you thought she might want some her time.."
Lol I agree
It's the beginning of the childs education
Should we home school as well ? |
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"Thought they had been charging for late pick up for years .. at that rate too. not unusual in berkshire anyway. People take the piss .. dont be late picking them up..
It happens in the vets drives me crazy peoples tardiness in keeping an appointment. you get 15 mins you late you get 5 and its still going to cost the same fee..
I'm not saying there shouldn't be a late fee but just think the rate is extremely high"
As far as I'm aware they can charge what they like...it's a high charge for a minute late though but it's a business and they have to make money well in their eyes |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
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"Standard. Lots of parents take the mick. It's prob in the contract but cos too many parents playing silly beggars they're clamping down? Most places don't mind if you're less than 15 mins late but I've heard of parents turning up 2-3hours late!!"
2-3 hours  |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Wow
For my pre school is five pounds for each fifteen mins that you are late
If late by 45 mins and they can't contact you they call police and report an abandoned child
I think your fee is fair .. Regarding the 45 mins late I suppose that's fair enough
They told me this when my ex forgot to pick up my son
I was devastated
But I think it's fair
Unfortunately some do abandon their children, nursery's need guidelines . Ide be devastated too. "
I was  he had fell asleep
I was so upset
But I won't go into all that
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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"
You always have the option to remove your children and provide child-care (often known as motherhood) yourself.
On a legal basis it does sound to be an unfair contractual term, if it's a contract at all.
Oh I know all about motherhood, they only attend for 3 hours per day!
I don't have a contract.
I suspect you do. It doesn't have to be written, you know. "
Well if there was one then Ide have a copy surely.. I havent |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
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"Thought they had been charging for late pick up for years .. at that rate too. not unusual in berkshire anyway. People take the piss .. dont be late picking them up..
It happens in the vets drives me crazy peoples tardiness in keeping an appointment. you get 15 mins you late you get 5 and its still going to cost the same fee..
I'm not saying there shouldn't be a late fee but just think the rate is extremely high
As far as I'm aware they can charge what they like...it's a high charge for a minute late though but it's a business and they have to make money well in their eyes "
Exactly.. I'm usually early but I have been late by 5 mins on a couple of occasions, I have two children there so I'm assuming Ide be charged £2.00 per minute |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Standard. Lots of parents take the mick. It's prob in the contract but cos too many parents playing silly beggars they're clamping down? Most places don't mind if you're less than 15 mins late but I've heard of parents turning up 2-3hours late!!
2-3 hours "
That's awful! |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"
You always have the option to remove your children and provide child-care (often known as motherhood) yourself.
On a legal basis it does sound to be an unfair contractual term, if it's a contract at all.
Lol you sounded such a bloke with that statement...have you thought she might want some her time..
Lol I agree
It's the beginning of the childs education
Should we home school as well ?"
here kids cant get into school without going to playgroup/nursery first and 3hours a day isnt all that much and helps with seperation anxiety and helps them with being around other kids. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"
You always have the option to remove your children and provide child-care (often known as motherhood) yourself.
On a legal basis it does sound to be an unfair contractual term, if it's a contract at all.
Lol you sounded such a bloke with that statement...have you thought she might want some her time..
Lol I agree
It's the beginning of the childs education
Should we home school as well ?
here kids cant get into school without going to playgroup/nursery first and 3hours a day isnt all that much and helps with seperation anxiety and helps them with being around other kids. "
Learning through play
Very important I think !
And I like my three hours to myself lol |
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By (user no longer on site)
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You always have the option to remove your children and provide child-care (often known as motherhood) yourself.
On a legal basis it does sound to be an unfair contractual term, if it's a contract at all.
Lol you sounded such a bloke with that statement...have you thought she might want some her time..
Lol I agree
It's the beginning of the childs education
Should we home school as well ?"
Isn't it accepted wisdom, fact almost, that the children that did better at school were the ones who were cared for by their mothers upto age 5? |
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You always have the option to remove your children and provide child-care (often known as motherhood) yourself.
On a legal basis it does sound to be an unfair contractual term, if it's a contract at all.
Lol you sounded such a bloke with that statement...have you thought she might want some her time..
Lol I agree
It's the beginning of the childs education
Should we home school as well ?
here kids cant get into school without going to playgroup/nursery first and 3hours a day isnt all that much and helps with seperation anxiety and helps them with being around other kids.
Learning through play
Very important I think !
And I like my three hours to myself lol "
You can have a nap...do the washing have a meet or chill..I'm not a mother but totally understand I need for you time |
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By *inaTitzTV/TS
over a year ago
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I believe this would fall within the remit of the Unfair Contract Terms Act 1977, as it is a business, they would have to satisfy the reasonableness test and this would fail. A contract does not have to be written.  |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"So I've received a letter from nursery today stating that they've noticed parents are collecting some children after their agreed collection time.. This letter has been given to the parents who receive the 15hrs per week grant.
So they have said that any child who is collected late will be subject to a surcharge of £1.00 per minute!!
The nursery is private, I'm wondering if this is actually allowed. "
we used to get a late surcharge at ours of £5 per 15 mins but a pound a minute sounds steep! |
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By (user no longer on site)
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You always have the option to remove your children and provide child-care (often known as motherhood) yourself.
On a legal basis it does sound to be an unfair contractual term, if it's a contract at all.
Lol you sounded such a bloke with that statement...have you thought she might want some her time..
Lol I agree
It's the beginning of the childs education
Should we home school as well ?
here kids cant get into school without going to playgroup/nursery first and 3hours a day isnt all that much and helps with seperation anxiety and helps them with being around other kids.
Learning through play
Very important I think !
And I like my three hours to myself lol
You can have a nap...do the washing have a meet or chill..I'm not a mother but totally understand I need for you time "
Absolutely !
I cherish it lol
It's housework
Food shop
Maybe fall asleep if it's Friday and been up at five all week lol |
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You always have the option to remove your children and provide child-care (often known as motherhood) yourself.
On a legal basis it does sound to be an unfair contractual term, if it's a contract at all.
Lol you sounded such a bloke with that statement...have you thought she might want some her time..
Lol I agree
It's the beginning of the childs education
Should we home school as well ?
Isn't it accepted wisdom, fact almost, that the children that did better at school were the ones who were cared for by their mothers upto age 5? "
Canis times have changed...everyone deserves some them time and there is nothing to suggest that children will not excel...more women have full time jobs etc it's 2014 now things are different |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
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"Think of it from their point of view, too? They have to employ people at overtime rates if they have to stay longer than contracted."
The nursery is open from 7-7 these fees are for the children that receive grants .. So the children attend 9-12 or 12-3 so no overtime staff rates are affected |
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By (user no longer on site)
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You always have the option to remove your children and provide child-care (often known as motherhood) yourself.
On a legal basis it does sound to be an unfair contractual term, if it's a contract at all.
Lol you sounded such a bloke with that statement...have you thought she might want some her time..
Lol I agree
It's the beginning of the childs education
Should we home school as well ?
Isn't it accepted wisdom, fact almost, that the children that did better at school were the ones who were cared for by their mothers upto age 5?
Canis times have changed...everyone deserves some them time and there is nothing to suggest that children will not excel...more women have full time jobs etc it's 2014 now things are different "
Yer kidding me, it's 2014. Where did 1974 get to?
ps 1974 not chosen entirely randomly. |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
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You always have the option to remove your children and provide child-care (often known as motherhood) yourself.
On a legal basis it does sound to be an unfair contractual term, if it's a contract at all.
Lol you sounded such a bloke with that statement...have you thought she might want some her time..
Lol I agree
It's the beginning of the childs education
Should we home school as well ?
Isn't it accepted wisdom, fact almost, that the children that did better at school were the ones who were cared for by their mothers upto age 5? "
Sorry but I think that is absolute rubbish!
Children thrive at pre school , learn to share and mix with others |
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45 years ago when I was 3 there was no such thing as nursery but I did go to play group twice a week. When I started school at 5 I was used to being apart from my mum, my sister was a baby so I wouldn't have had any friends if I hadn't have gone.
Some of the children who had never left their parents used to scream the place down
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You always have the option to remove your children and provide child-care (often known as motherhood) yourself.
On a legal basis it does sound to be an unfair contractual term, if it's a contract at all.
Lol you sounded such a bloke with that statement...have you thought she might want some her time..
Lol I agree
It's the beginning of the childs education
Should we home school as well ?
Isn't it accepted wisdom, fact almost, that the children that did better at school were the ones who were cared for by their mothers upto age 5?
Canis times have changed...everyone deserves some them time and there is nothing to suggest that children will not excel...more women have full time jobs etc it's 2014 now things are different
Yer kidding me, it's 2014. Where did 1974 get to?
ps 1974 not chosen entirely randomly."
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By (user no longer on site)
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You always have the option to remove your children and provide child-care (often known as motherhood) yourself.
On a legal basis it does sound to be an unfair contractual term, if it's a contract at all.
Lol you sounded such a bloke with that statement...have you thought she might want some her time..
Lol I agree
It's the beginning of the childs education
Should we home school as well ?
Isn't it accepted wisdom, fact almost, that the children that did better at school were the ones who were cared for by their mothers upto age 5? "
In Finland, reputed to have one of the best education systems in the world they start at 7, no testing in first 6 years, no homework until 13 or 14. Teachers are paid as well as doctors, with an equal social standing.
OP, do they promise a staff to child level? Are the people whose children are there after 3 and paying for the placement expecting a certain ratio? If they come in and find their child in a group of 20 instead of 15 are they going to be happy? Obviously the charge is one that makes you considerably more likely to be there at the correct time. Probably a crap comparison but last time I took my van to a main dealer they wanted £65 an hour which made me go
They're not just covering their overheads they're fining you for being late.
Is it fair? Nope, is it harsh? Yep, does it make you pick your child up promptly? I hope so.
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By (user no longer on site) OP
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You always have the option to remove your children and provide child-care (often known as motherhood) yourself.
On a legal basis it does sound to be an unfair contractual term, if it's a contract at all.
Lol you sounded such a bloke with that statement...have you thought she might want some her time..
Lol I agree
It's the beginning of the childs education
Should we home school as well ?
Isn't it accepted wisdom, fact almost, that the children that did better at school were the ones who were cared for by their mothers upto age 5?
In Finland, reputed to have one of the best education systems in the world they start at 7, no testing in first 6 years, no homework until 13 or 14. Teachers are paid as well as doctors, with an equal social standing.
OP, do they promise a staff to child level? Are the people whose children are there after 3 and paying for the placement expecting a certain ratio? If they come in and find their child in a group of 20 instead of 15 are they going to be happy? Obviously the charge is one that makes you considerably more likely to be there at the correct time. Probably a crap comparison but last time I took my van to a main dealer they wanted £65 an hour which made me go
They're not just covering their overheads they're fining you for being late.
Is it fair? Nope, is it harsh? Yep, does it make you pick your child up promptly? I hope so.
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The points you make are very valid, charges are very harsh yes .. I do think that some children will end up without a nursery placement though because of these fees being introduced.
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You always have the option to remove your children and provide child-care (often known as motherhood) yourself.
On a legal basis it does sound to be an unfair contractual term, if it's a contract at all.
Lol you sounded such a bloke with that statement...have you thought she might want some her time..
Lol I agree
It's the beginning of the childs education
Should we home school as well ?
Isn't it accepted wisdom, fact almost, that the children that did better at school were the ones who were cared for by their mothers upto age 5?
In Finland, reputed to have one of the best education systems in the world they start at 7, no testing in first 6 years, no homework until 13 or 14. Teachers are paid as well as doctors, with an equal social standing.
OP, do they promise a staff to child level? Are the people whose children are there after 3 and paying for the placement expecting a certain ratio? If they come in and find their child in a group of 20 instead of 15 are they going to be happy? Obviously the charge is one that makes you considerably more likely to be there at the correct time. Probably a crap comparison but last time I took my van to a main dealer they wanted £65 an hour which made me go
They're not just covering their overheads they're fining you for being late.
Is it fair? Nope, is it harsh? Yep, does it make you pick your child up promptly? I hope so.
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Great points made there ...38 and 35 years ago when I needed help with my kids twice a week we had no subsidised nursery's every play school was pay only and you had two or two and half hours two mornings or afternoons. Couldnt afford any more. Didnt dare be late but then I am a fanatical time keeper cannot bare anyone being late in my lines of work. An appointment is just that.. keep it or pay. The points above tell it all.
I am darn sure if you are delayed once you will be given a chance. Not everyone is genuine . |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Think of it from their point of view, too? They have to employ people at overtime rates if they have to stay longer than contracted.
The nursery is open from 7-7 these fees are for the children that receive grants .. So the children attend 9-12 or 12-3 so no overtime staff rates are affected "
Sorry then - I was wrong. I don't have experience of nurseries. I should know better than to comment on subjects about which I am ignorant. I always get the urge to play devil's advocate but I should know better. It always gets me in trouble. |
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