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You just gotta admire his balls....

By (user no longer on site) OP over a year ago

Australian Prime Minister Kevin Rudd who said the following recently:

Muslims who want to live under Islamic Sharia law were told on Wednesday to get out of Australia , as the government targeted radicals in a bid to head off potential terror attacks..

Separately, Rudd angered some Australian Muslims on Wednesday by saying he supported spy agencies monitoring the nation's mosques. Quote:

'IMMIGRANTS, NOT AUSTRALIANS, MUST ADAPT.. Take It Or Leave It.

I am tired of this nation worrying about whether we are offending some individual or their culture. Since the terrorist attacks on Bali , we have experienced a surge in patriotism by the majority of Australians. '

'This culture has been developed over two centuries of struggles, trials and victories by millions of men and women who have sought freedom'

'We speak mainly ENGLISH, not Spanish, Lebanese, Arabic, Chinese, Japanese, Russian, or any other language. Therefore, if you wish to become part of our society . Learn the language!'

'Most Australians believe in God. This is not some Christian, right wing, political push, but a fact, because Christian men and women, on Christian principles, founded this nation, and this is clearly documented. It is certainly appropriate to display it on the walls of our schools. If God offends you, then I suggest you consider another part of the world as your new home, because God is part of our culture.'

'We will accept your beliefs, and will not question why. All we ask is that you accept ours, and live in harmony and peaceful enjoyment with us.'

'This is OUR COUNTRY, OUR LAND, and OUR LIFESTYLE, and we will allow you every opportunity to enjoy all this. But once you are done complaining, whining, and griping about Our Flag, Our Pledge, Our Christian beliefs, or Our Way of Life, I highly encourage you take advantage of one other great Australian freedom, 'THE RIGHT TO LEAVE'.'

'If you aren't happy here then LEAVE. We didn't force you to come here. You asked to be here. So accept the country YOU accepted.'

If only someone told it like it is over here huh?

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Have read this before and whole heartedly agree with it.

Yes, times change but if people from other nations/religions want to live with us in this great land then THEY need to adapt not us.

Some cultures are historically part of Great Britain....ie those that were part of the old Empire and are fully integrated into British Society and we never hear a peep out of them, in fact its fair to say they are as British as anyone else.

Yet there are those that come to our country and want OUR kids to learn THEIR language.

Something wrong somewhere!

Well done Mr Rudd

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"If only someone told it like it is over here huh? "

Exactly my thoughts as reading.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

I shouldn't have to make sacrifices for your beliefs, you have to make them for yourself.

That is a good quote

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

I agree, we are to soft and turned into a pc country, we think about everyone else before ourselfs, many other countries do it, even the Muslim countries won't let you have your say, you have to do all the adapting

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

i do like this man

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By *ausage and sizzleCouple over a year ago

Barnstaple

Totally agree with this. You either want to be British and all that goes with that, or you don't.

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By *illwill69uMan over a year ago

moston

"Australian Prime Minister Kevin Rudd who said the following recently:

Muslims who want to live under Islamic Sharia law were told on Wednesday to get out of Australia , as the government targeted radicals in a bid to head off potential terror attacks..

Separately, Rudd angered some Australian Muslims on Wednesday by saying he supported spy agencies monitoring the nation's mosques. Quote:

'IMMIGRANTS, NOT AUSTRALIANS, MUST ADAPT.. Take It Or Leave It.

'This culture has been developed over two centuries of struggles, trials and victories by millions of men and women who have sought freedom'

'We speak mainly ENGLISH, not Spanish, Lebanese, Arabic, Chinese, Japanese, Russian, or any other language. Therefore, if you wish to become part of our society . Learn the language!'

'We will accept your beliefs, and will not question why. All we ask is that you accept ours, and live in harmony and peaceful enjoyment with us.'

'If you aren't happy here then LEAVE. We didn't force you to come here. You asked to be here. So accept the country YOU accepted.'

If only someone told it like it is over here huh? "

hear, hear!

well said wishy and the Australian PM

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By *icknDeeCouple over a year ago

hartlepool

An interesting comment, comming from the Australian prime minister. While I don't completely agree or disagree with him, I wonder if the Aboriginies have the same feelings about white australian customs and ways...

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Trust an Aussie to say it how it is.

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By *habsMan over a year ago

Fortress of Solitude, Middlesex

Bravo!!

Can't remember if it was the same Aussie PM or his predecessor - anyone remember the cargo ship with 450 people looking to sneak into Australia to live there, but got turned away on the approaching sea? Apparently some other nations (including Norway) complained that Australia wasn't being "humanitarian" in accepting the immigrants to which the Australian PM responded "If you feel so much for their plight, then I suggest that YOU take them!"

Bravo - seems we have a lot to learn from Australia.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"An interesting comment, comming from the Australian prime minister. While I don't completely agree or disagree with him, I wonder if the Aboriginies have the same feelings about white australian customs and ways..."

My thoughts exactly, however your post will be ignored I'm afraid as the Aboriginies way of life won't matter here.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

My thoughts exactly, however your post will be ignored I'm afraid as the Aboriginies way of life won't matter here.

Lol... was thinking that the funniest line was "Immigrants, not australians must adapt"!!!

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Hear hear.

It doesn't seem that long ago that there was regular talk in the media about business people going to places like Japan and China, but before they went they were encouraged to learn the ways and etiquette of those countries so that they wouldn't offend or insult those they were hoping to do business with.

Think it's high time that any and everybody intending to come here was given the same message!

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Here, here. On visiting another country you abide by their rules. We go on holiday to whatever country and visit, leys say a church. You are not aloud to bare any flesh.So you cover up or leave with a flee in your ear. This country goes the other way. We cater for every other nationality apart from our own. We should look after our own people before we give away our nations taxes to poor countries.not good.

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By *oe_Steve_NWestCouple over a year ago

Bolton

Good point, however, how developed would Australia be now if there had been no immigration and it had been left for the Aborigines to develop it? Z

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By (user no longer on site) OP over a year ago

To be fair to the Aussies it wasn't them who colonised their country - it was us! But that was a different time when people viewed the world differently. Kevin Rudd is addressing today's issues in a country that he feels passionately about and wants to protect from the deluge of immigrants that he feels would not bring anything positive to the Australian way of life. It may well be that he's seen what's happened here and in the U.S. and doesn't want it repeated in Australia.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

They didnt have much choice. We sent all the villans there. Each person ya talk to, his or her mother was a crook. lol. Laughing aside, the place is pretty interesting tho.I grew up knowing that Australians are racist and sexist.Sounds like old habits die hard. I visited 2 years ago. Loved it.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Good point, however, how developed would Australia be now if there had been no immigration and it had been left for the Aborigines to develop it? Z"

Good British attitude. Excellent.

This is why we had an empire, we had to show the savages how to live properly. It was our duty.

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By *oe_Steve_NWestCouple over a year ago

Bolton

"Good point, however, how developed would Australia be now if there had been no immigration and it had been left for the Aborigines to develop it? Z

Good British attitude. Excellent.

This is why we had an empire, we had to show the savages how to live properly. It was our duty.

OK - whatever - I didn't say anything about having to tame savages and I have to say that the British Empire is something to be sorely ashamed of (it is isn't it?). Hang my head in shame and bow to your obvious vast knowledge of all things and the fact that you don't like other people to have any kind of opposing view to yourself! Just thought I'd add another facet into the thread but obviously that isn't what forums are for! (No cutting and pasting in sight) Z

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By *illwill69uMan over a year ago

moston

the aboriginal point may have been valid but as far as I know the "European" Australians have spent the last 20 or so years trying to repair and reverse the damage done over 200 years and now celebrate and protect the aboriginals way of life and heritage.

Those that the Australian PM are speaking out about would wipe away EVERYTHING that is not Islamic, just like the Taliban destroyed the 2000yo Bamiyan Buddhas.

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By *andcCouple over a year ago

London and Cheshire

What a load of old Bo**ox.

Christian county? bet the Aboriginies weren't christian and they where there long before the WHITE christians got there.

I hear people in Britain talking about, Muslims and the like should live life the way we do, why, when the British empire was occupying India and half of Africa did we live life the way they did, speak their language, abide by their customs, NO! because we thought we where better than everyone else and I think some people still do.

Why does it bother people so much about what other people wear, the language they speak or the customs they up hold.

Why can't people just get on with their lives and live in harmony, I'm sure the majority of Muslims, Blacks, Asians, Irish, Hindu, Sikh or anything else for that matter are just good honest people, well ALL the ones I have been lucky enough to know have.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Good point, however, how developed would Australia be now if there had been no immigration and it had been left for the Aborigines to develop it? Z

Good British attitude. Excellent.

This is why we had an empire, we had to show the savages how to live properly. It was our duty.

Well it could be said that we (The Great British Empire) civilised the world. Others might say we syphillised it.

Who am I to say?

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By *exeteraWoman over a year ago

Bridgend

"Good point, however, how developed would Australia be now if there had been no immigration and it had been left for the Aborigines to develop it? Z

Good British attitude. Excellent.

This is why we had an empire, we had to show the savages how to live properly. It was our duty.

Australia would have been the way the indigenous population would have wanted it to be. No interferance and probably wouldn't have wanted to be a dumping ground for our fellons.

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By *oe_Steve_NWestCouple over a year ago

Bolton

"Good point, however, how developed would Australia be now if there had been no immigration and it had been left for the Aborigines to develop it? Z

Good British attitude. Excellent.

This is why we had an empire, we had to show the savages how to live properly. It was our duty.

Australia would have been the way the indigenous population would have wanted it to be. No interferance and probably wouldn't have wanted to be a dumping ground for our fellons."

Quite true, I only made an observation and feel like I'm being held solely responsible for the Bristish Empire, the shipping off to Australia of our criminals and everything else! Z

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By (user no longer on site) OP over a year ago

It's not about 200 years ago, or slavery, or indiginous races being turfed off their land, its about today, now, how things are not how they were, and more importantly, how they will be.

I've never owned a slave and I've traced my roots back to 1605 and none of my family were rich enough to own a slave (some were bondsmen in fact) so I feel no reason why I should be held accountable for something other people of my race did 200 years ago. Come to think of it, I don't know a single black person who is or was a slave either so why the bollocks are they moaning about it.

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By *oe_Steve_NWestCouple over a year ago

Bolton

Sorry Wishy, didn't mean to take your thread off track! You have to admire the guys balls! Z

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

i`d vote for him

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By *ickmealloverWoman over a year ago

a very plush appartment off junt 7 M5

I would vote for him tooooooo

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Hope the Aussies appreciate their PM!!

After all, they could have someone like ours!!

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By *orse8Man over a year ago

London

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By *orse8Man over a year ago

London

It should be remembered that it was only the crimnals dumb enough to get caught that colonized Australia.

( had to delete previous message due an embarrassing spelling mistake, dammit )

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

yup and a few of them were off my family lol!!!

i can see where the guy is coming from, but whatever happened to live and let live and mutual respect?? or have i just been usin too much tipex today?

i love british selective superiority and how anythin "different" isnt acceptable unless its the british doin it!!

i will say this much for austrailia though their immigration policy is a damned good one! cant get in unless you have skills vital to the economy and work related and also x amount of money in the bank!! i have a few family members over there who emigrated and it wasnt easy for them xx

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By (user no longer on site) OP over a year ago

"It should be remembered that it was only the crimnals dumb enough to get caught that colonized Australia.

( had to delete previous message due an embarrassing spelling mistake, dammit )"

Transportation was a common punishment handed out for both major and petty crimes in Britain from the seventeenth century until well into the nineteenth century. At the time it was seen as a more humane alternative to execution. Around 60,000 convicts were transported to the British colonies in North America in the seventeenth and eighteenth centuries. When the American Revolutionary War brought an end to that means of disposal, the British Government was forced to look elsewhere.

After Captain Cook's famous voyage to the South Pacific in which he visited and claimed Australia in the name of the British Empire, he reported his findings to the government, and the British, for the first time, became aware of the existence of the continent of Australia.

Over the next 80 years more than 165,000 convicts were transported to Australia, but this number of convicts pales in comparison to the immigrants who arrived in Australia in the 1851-1871 gold rush. In 1852 alone, 370,000 immigrants arrived in Australia. By 1871 the total population had nearly quadrupled from 430,000 to 1.7 million people. The last convicts to be transported to Australia arrived in Western Australia in 1868.