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I have smoked since I was 12. I'm 40 now and am 11 days cigarette free.
I didn't give up intentionally, I started using one of the vaporisers to get my nicotine fix and just haven't purchased any cigs since.
Even when I smoked, before a meet I would be freshly showered and in freshly laundered clothing with brushed teeth as I didn't like the smell of smoke on myself or my clothes so why should I subject that to someone I want to get intimate with.
Anyway, now I use the vaporiser, does that mean I am now a non smoker or should I leave 'smoker' on my profile?  |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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Well done on giving up and doing well.
I'm not going to be helpful here, because I genuinely don't know lol
Although you are no longer smoking cigarettes, you are technically still smoking something.
See what everyone else says.
Keep it up (the non smoking that is lol) |
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I'm one of those ex-smokers that simply won't be in the same small room as a smoker and certainly won't get vaguely intimate with one but if you have given up then I would state you are an a non-smoker and maybe put a line in about the e-cigs in your profile.
Despite your fantastic dedication to your appearance and cleanliness, you would have probably still smelled of smoke. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"I have smoked since I was 12. I'm 40 now and am 11 days cigarette free.
I didn't give up intentionally, I started using one of the vaporisers to get my nicotine fix and just haven't purchased any cigs since.
Even when I smoked, before a meet I would be freshly showered and in freshly laundered clothing with brushed teeth as I didn't like the smell of smoke on myself or my clothes so why should I subject that to someone I want to get intimate with.
Anyway, now I use the vaporiser, does that mean I am now a non smoker or should I leave 'smoker' on my profile? "
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There's no actual smoke from a vapouriser, so no, you're not a smoker. The smoky smell comes from the tobacco and the tar in cigs, nicotine is odourless and colourless. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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We dont meet smokers
The amount of guys that have said in a message that its ok cos they shower and brush their teeth before a meet which is all well and good but what they don't realise is that when a non smoker performs oral on them. They can TASTE it too and it's not nice!!!
Lou x |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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Huge congrats!
I'm going to order myself up one of those bad boys soon, everyone I've spoken to recently has quit using one.
I would say you could consider yourself a non smoker now but as a dirty smoker what do I know? |
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Id _iew someone who has not lit and smoked tobacco for a couple of days as a nonsmoker for social interaction purposes. Technically it is up to the person themselves to determine their own status and who can describe themselves to others, if required. We dont need an official guide or definition. People can clearly communicate. |
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over a year ago
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According to my ex-partners doctor it takes 2 years of no nictotine whatsoever before you can fully combat the craving and be classed as a non-smoker, if you are reliant on the vapours and therefore the nictotine, surely that implies medically you are still a smoker |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"According to my ex-partners doctor it takes 2 years of no nictotine whatsoever before you can fully combat the craving and be classed as a non-smoker, if you are reliant on the vapours and therefore the nictotine, surely that implies medically you are still a smoker"
I know people that haven't smoked for years and years but still get cravings.
I think the clue is in the name "smoker". There is no smoke assoicated with e-cigarettes, gums or anything else.
I wouldn't feel I needed to declare my caffine addiction so why should I declare a nicotine addiction?
Just a thought. |
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over a year ago
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If you don't inhale or exhale smoke then no you aren't a smoker. You are now a vaper, congratulations.
For the purposes of this site I'd say you are a non-smoker. Potential meets don't care whether you are "medically" a smoker, they care whether you smell and taste like one.
Mention the vaping in your profile then everything is disclosed and people can satisfy themselves as to whether you are someone they would like to get dirty with  |
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"We dont meet smokers
The amount of guys that have said in a message that its ok cos they shower and brush their teeth before a meet which is all well and good but what they don't realise is that when a non smoker performs oral on them. They can TASTE it too and it's not nice!!!
Lou x"
Wow I have not been told that before.
I hope it works the other way now 
Anyone want to check to see if I taste of menthol sensation now???  |
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"Well done you !.....keep it up. I think you should change it to a non smoker now and maybe put a line in your profile that you have recently given up and now just use an ecig...
I gave up almost 3 years ago after smoking since the age of 10, and packing it in is the best thing I ever did ...so good for you hun xx...  "
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"Huge congrats!
I'm going to order myself up one of those bad boys soon, everyone I've spoken to recently has quit using one.
I would say you could consider yourself a non smoker now but as a dirty smoker what do I know?"
You'll be surprised Libertine.
Its weird at first but once you have started you don't get the craving for the cigs as the nicotine is replaced through the juice.
When you do have the cigarette it becomes less and less enjoyable..... |
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"If you don't inhale or exhale smoke then no you aren't a smoker. You are now a vaper, congratulations.
For the purposes of this site I'd say you are a non-smoker. Potential meets don't care whether you are "medically" a smoker, they care whether you smell and taste like one.
Mention the vaping in your profile then everything is disclosed and people can satisfy themselves as to whether you are someone they would like to get dirty with "
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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Disgusting habit so very well done for giving up, must be hard. I have a habit of making people give up as whenever a smoker messages me, I politely say I don't meet smokers and the reply 9 times out of 10 is they've given up lol! Keep up the good work
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By *ee VianteWoman
over a year ago
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It's not just about "smoke". It is possible to taste the nicotine when kissing a vaper.
Declare it in your profile to be on the safe side.
Well done for giving up cigarettes. In time perhaps you'll be able to quit nicotine altogether |
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By *ee VianteWoman
over a year ago
Somewhere in North Norfolk |
"Disgusting habit so very well done for giving up, must be hard. I have a habit of making people give up as whenever a smoker messages me, I politely say I don't meet smokers and the reply 9 times out of 10 is they've given up lol! Keep up the good work
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I get this a lot too. |
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By *ee VianteWoman
over a year ago
Somewhere in North Norfolk |
"According to my ex-partners doctor it takes 2 years of no nictotine whatsoever before you can fully combat the craving and be classed as a non-smoker, if you are reliant on the vapours and therefore the nictotine, surely that implies medically you are still a smoker
I know people that haven't smoked for years and years but still get cravings.
I think the clue is in the name "smoker". There is no smoke assoicated with e-cigarettes, gums or anything else.
I wouldn't feel I needed to declare my caffine addiction so why should I declare a nicotine addiction?
Just a thought."
Vapers take nicotine orally and it some will be able to taste it when kissing.
No need to declare a nicotine addiction but it would be considerate to let people know you may taste of nicotine. |
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"Vapers take nicotine orally and it some will be able to taste it when kissing.
No need to declare a nicotine addiction but it would be considerate to let people know you may taste of nicotine. "
I very much doubt you'll be able to taste it at all. Can you taste the caffine in coffee? People should also declare what they had for breakfast too by the same logic. I'm not a fan of tomatoes |
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"Vapers take nicotine orally and it some will be able to taste it when kissing.
No need to declare a nicotine addiction but it would be considerate to let people know you may taste of nicotine.
I very much doubt you'll be able to taste it at all. Can you taste the caffine in coffee? People should also declare what they had for breakfast too by the same logic. I'm not a fan of tomatoes"
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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I haven't had a cig or any kind of nicotine replacement since 30 December. I don't class myself as a non smoker rather someone who hasn't had a cig for a while. For me it's a mind thing and it works. |
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"According to my ex-partners doctor it takes 2 years of no nictotine whatsoever before you can fully combat the craving and be classed as a non-smoker, if you are reliant on the vapours and therefore the nictotine, surely that implies medically you are still a smoker
I know people that haven't smoked for years and years but still get cravings.
I think the clue is in the name "smoker". There is no smoke assoicated with e-cigarettes, gums or anything else.
I wouldn't feel I needed to declare my caffine addiction so why should I declare a nicotine addiction?
Just a thought.
Vapers take nicotine orally and it some will be able to taste it when kissing.
No need to declare a nicotine addiction but it would be considerate to let people know you may taste of nicotine. "
Luke uses an E cigarette and has done since the new year, I can safely say he doesn't taste of nicotine at all |
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By *ee VianteWoman
over a year ago
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"Vapers take nicotine orally and it some will be able to taste it when kissing.
No need to declare a nicotine addiction but it would be considerate to let people know you may taste of nicotine.
I very much doubt you'll be able to taste it at all. Can you taste the caffine in coffee? People should also declare what they had for breakfast too by the same logic. I'm not a fan of tomatoes"
I'm not guessing that people might be able to taste it. I know for a fact that sometimes non-smokers can taste nicotine when kissing vapers.
You asked, I gave you an informed reply. I'm sorry if the answer isn't what you want to hear.
A lot of smokers seriously underestimate how sensitive to smoke and nicotine non-smokers can be. Think how many are in denial and believe that if they shower, brush their teeth and don't smoke for an hour or two, nobody will know.
It's still considerate to let people know if you vape so they can make an informed decision. It'll potentially lead to bad feeling and wasted time otherwise.
In the same way, I wouldn't turn up to a meet stinking and tasting of garlic or onions because it's inconsiderate.
If there was a risk my breakfast could still be tasted by the time of a meet, I would either eat something different or warn the other party/parties to let them decide if it would be a problem.
As for caffeine, I believe that is tasteless (but no, if someone said they wouldn't meet coffee drinkers, I'd tell them I drink coffee and wouldn't arrive tasting of it if they still wanted to meet).
Why wouldn't anyone declare they vape? The only reason I can see is that it might get them fewer meets. But why omit information to get meets with people who wouldn't otherwise want to meet? It's a recipe for bad feeling and wasted time. |
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By *ee VianteWoman
over a year ago
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"According to my ex-partners doctor it takes 2 years of no nictotine whatsoever before you can fully combat the craving and be classed as a non-smoker, if you are reliant on the vapours and therefore the nictotine, surely that implies medically you are still a smoker
I know people that haven't smoked for years and years but still get cravings.
I think the clue is in the name "smoker". There is no smoke assoicated with e-cigarettes, gums or anything else.
I wouldn't feel I needed to declare my caffine addiction so why should I declare a nicotine addiction?
Just a thought.
Vapers take nicotine orally and it some will be able to taste it when kissing.
No need to declare a nicotine addiction but it would be considerate to let people know you may taste of nicotine.
Luke uses an E cigarette and has done since the new year, I can safely say he doesn't taste of nicotine at all "
If you're used to him smoking maybe you aren't as sensitive to it as some non-smokers though?
I did also say "sometimes" and to "some people". I've heard other non-smokers say it so I know it isn't just me. |
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I was tild recently by my doctor. Is have to be off ever nicoten products dor a while year to be declared a non smoker.
Shame as I'm loving my inhaler an juice.I've been 3 months without a cig but canr see me giving up the inhaler.
Might get to zero nicoten content juice hopefully
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the thing i cannot understand is i am a smoker, i get asked for meets by non smokers who say they wont meet smokers they arrive after saying they dont mind as they need to get off. then at the end ask for a roll up and even on occasions produce a pack of cigs from their pocket. i never approach people who say wont meet smokers, i may wink them. but when looking for a meet i filter then out of my search |
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By *ee VianteWoman
over a year ago
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"the thing i cannot understand is i am a smoker, i get asked for meets by non smokers who say they wont meet smokers they arrive after saying they dont mind as they need to get off. then at the end ask for a roll up and even on occasions produce a pack of cigs from their pocket. i never approach people who say wont meet smokers, i may wink them. but when looking for a meet i filter then out of my search"
This would confuse me too. Some of us say it and mean it |
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By *yrdwomanWoman
over a year ago
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I've been a vaper exclusively for three weeks. I was at a beer festival last night and was told that us vapers still have to stand outside, and Network Rail says we can't vape on platforms, so I guess we are still smokers to the rest of the world.
I smell and taste of vanilla personally, as nicotine has no favour. What non-smokers taste when kissing smokers is all the shit that's in ciggies, like tar, tobacco, benzyl whatever, and other delightful ingredients. |
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"You asked, I gave you an informed reply. I'm sorry if the answer isn't what you want to hear. "
That isn’t the case at all. I’m not offended in the slightest of your opinion. An opinion is what it is, which is why I have no idea why you considered it ‘informed’ whilst no one elses is, including someone who has also said that the nicotine in them can’t be tasted
"A lot of smokers seriously underestimate how sensitive to smoke and nicotine non-smokers can be. Think how many are in denial and believe that if they shower, brush their teeth and don't smoke for an hour or two, nobody will know."
"In the same way, I wouldn't turn up to a meet stinking and tasting of garlic or onions because it's inconsiderate."
"It's still considerate to let people know if you vape so they can make an informed decision. It'll potentially lead to bad feeling and wasted time otherwise."
Some may but quite a few are all to well aware. Going back to what you last said “Vapers take nicotine orally” I’m sure you already know that most things are infact ingested orally hence my comment about breakfast. So you want to know about everything (that you can’t detect anyway) that goes into their system?
It seems you are getting a little confused with the difference between vaping and smoking and blurring the lines to justify your well informed reply. You do realise that the juice which creates the vapour comes in different flavours anyway? |
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By *ee VianteWoman
over a year ago
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"You asked, I gave you an informed reply. I'm sorry if the answer isn't what you want to hear.
That isn’t the case at all. I’m not offended in the slightest of your opinion. An opinion is what it is, which is why I have no idea why you considered it ‘informed’ whilst no one elses is, including someone who has also said that the nicotine in them can’t be tasted
A lot of smokers seriously underestimate how sensitive to smoke and nicotine non-smokers can be. Think how many are in denial and believe that if they shower, brush their teeth and don't smoke for an hour or two, nobody will know.
In the same way, I wouldn't turn up to a meet stinking and tasting of garlic or onions because it's inconsiderate.
It's still considerate to let people know if you vape so they can make an informed decision. It'll potentially lead to bad feeling and wasted time otherwise.
Some may but quite a few are all to well aware. Going back to what you last said “Vapers take nicotine orally” I’m sure you already know that most things are infact ingested orally hence my comment about breakfast. So you want to know about everything (that you can’t detect anyway) that goes into their system?
It seems you are getting a little confused with the difference between vaping and smoking and blurring the lines to justify your well informed reply. You do realise that the juice which creates the vapour comes in different flavours anyway?"
Yes, I know and I'm not confused in the slightest. I'm telling you from experience some people can taste nicotine when kissing vapers. The flavour is short lived. The nicotine taste is longer lasting, especially in higher concentration juice. Nicotine can taste awful to non-smokers.
I repeat, if someone stated they didn't want to meet coffee drinkers, I wouldn't contact them. If they contacted me I would tell them I drink coffee.
I don't see why anyone would not put this in their profile to allow others to make an informed decision. |
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By *ee VianteWoman
over a year ago
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"So you want to know about everything (that you can’t detect anyway) that goes into their system?"
No but I do want to know about the things I can or might detect that I clearly state I dislike and don't want to encounter on a meet. |
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"I've been a vaper exclusively for three weeks. I was at a beer festival last night and was told that us vapers still have to stand outside, and Network Rail says we can't vape on platforms, so I guess we are still smokers to the rest of the world.
I smell and taste of vanilla personally, as nicotine has no favour. What non-smokers taste when kissing smokers is all the shit that's in ciggies, like tar, tobacco, benzyl whatever, and other delightful ingredients."
Indeed. I suppose I can take comfort in the fact there are far more unattractive habits still.
Anyway, sorry to hijack your thread OP! |
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"Disgusting habit so very well done for giving up, must be hard. I have a habit of making people give up as whenever a smoker messages me, I politely say I don't meet smokers and the reply 9 times out of 10 is they've given up lol! Keep up the good work
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"It's not just about "smoke". It is possible to taste the nicotine when kissing a vaper.
Declare it in your profile to be on the safe side.
Well done for giving up cigarettes. In time perhaps you'll be able to quit nicotine altogether "
Thats the plan |
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"Disgusting habit so very well done for giving up, must be hard. I have a habit of making people give up as whenever a smoker messages me, I politely say I don't meet smokers and the reply 9 times out of 10 is they've given up lol! Keep up the good work
I have been cigarette free for more than five yrs. I used that crafe away plastic fag only 1.89 and i was a very heavy smoker since i was fourteen
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By *ee VianteWoman
over a year ago
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"I've been a vaper exclusively for three weeks. I was at a beer festival last night and was told that us vapers still have to stand outside, and Network Rail says we can't vape on platforms, so I guess we are still smokers to the rest of the world.
I smell and taste of vanilla personally, as nicotine has no favour. What non-smokers taste when kissing smokers is all the shit that's in ciggies, like tar, tobacco, benzyl whatever, and other delightful ingredients."
Nicotine has a very distinct taste.
I don't understand the defensiveness of some smokers/vapers/whateverers about people not wanting to meet them.
I get that it's not nice to be excluded but we all have criteria for who we do and don't want to meet.
I'm fat. I know some don't like that so I make it clear on my profile and let others make up their mind. It doesn't bother me that some people don't want to meet fat people |
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"I've been a vaper exclusively for three weeks. I was at a beer festival last night and was told that us vapers still have to stand outside, and Network Rail says we can't vape on platforms, so I guess we are still smokers to the rest of the world.
I smell and taste of vanilla personally, as nicotine has no favour. What non-smokers taste when kissing smokers is all the shit that's in ciggies, like tar, tobacco, benzyl whatever, and other delightful ingredients."
I like the taste of vanilla........ |
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"I've been a vaper exclusively for three weeks. I was at a beer festival last night and was told that us vapers still have to stand outside, and Network Rail says we can't vape on platforms, so I guess we are still smokers to the rest of the world.
I smell and taste of vanilla personally, as nicotine has no favour. What non-smokers taste when kissing smokers is all the shit that's in ciggies, like tar, tobacco, benzyl whatever, and other delightful ingredients.
Indeed. I suppose I can take comfort in the fact there are far more unattractive habits still.
Anyway, sorry to hijack your thread OP!"
You haven't hijacked it buddy!
The thread is there for all opinions Thats why I asked the question |
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By *yrdwomanWoman
over a year ago
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"I've been a vaper exclusively for three weeks. I was at a beer festival last night and was told that us vapers still have to stand outside, and Network Rail says we can't vape on platforms, so I guess we are still smokers to the rest of the world.
I smell and taste of vanilla personally, as nicotine has no favour. What non-smokers taste when kissing smokers is all the shit that's in ciggies, like tar, tobacco, benzyl whatever, and other delightful ingredients.
Nicotine has a very distinct taste.
I don't understand the defensiveness of some smokers/vapers/whateverers about people not wanting to meet them.
I get that it's not nice to be excluded but we all have criteria for who we do and don't want to meet.
I'm fat. I know some don't like that so I make it clear on my profile and let others make up their mind. It doesn't bother me that some people don't want to meet fat people "
Lol, I'm not being defensive. As I am never likely to give you a full on snog with tongues then I am not worried about being excluded either. Obviously you are hypersensitive to nicotine, but you are not everyone, and others may think what you experience is normal when it isn't. Every dictionary and scientific description states that nicotine is flavourless and odourless, and in the case of vaping the flavour is added to the liquid so we have some gustatory pleasure to sucking on a warm metal tube.
Each to their own of course, and you are well within your rights to say 'ew no' to anyone, smoker or not. But I think some people were thinking you may have been confused between nicotine and tar, which is obviously not the case. Do whatever makes you happy. |
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Well it's a starter for 10 as Bamber Gascoigne would say but I hate to put cold water on your enthusiasm but nicotine is pretty nasty stuff. We are sure you can taste it in cum and spunk and it's quite bitter so sadly we'll have to give you 7 out of 10 for the effort and urge you to go further. Good thing is your pubes and armpits wont sweat the horrid odour after exertion and your breath will be much much sweeter. Wahey, all good. LOL |
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By *yrdwomanWoman
over a year ago
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"I've been a vaper exclusively for three weeks. I was at a beer festival last night and was told that us vapers still have to stand outside, and Network Rail says we can't vape on platforms, so I guess we are still smokers to the rest of the world.
I smell and taste of vanilla personally, as nicotine has no favour. What non-smokers taste when kissing smokers is all the shit that's in ciggies, like tar, tobacco, benzyl whatever, and other delightful ingredients.
I like the taste of vanilla........"
So do I, which is why I vape it. I do have coconut to try next though. And if anyone has tried chocolate let me know.  |
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"Well it's a starter for 10 as Bamber Gascoigne would say but I hate to put cold water on your enthusiasm but nicotine is pretty nasty stuff. We are sure you can taste it in cum and spunk and it's quite bitter so sadly we'll have to give you 7 out of 10 for the effort and urge you to go further. Good thing is your pubes and armpits wont sweat the horrid odour after exertion and your breath will be much much sweeter. Wahey, all good. LOL"
LMAO 
Looks like I need to get a verification to say I am nicotine taste/smell free |
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"I've been a vaper exclusively for three weeks. I was at a beer festival last night and was told that us vapers still have to stand outside, and Network Rail says we can't vape on platforms, so I guess we are still smokers to the rest of the world.
I smell and taste of vanilla personally, as nicotine has no favour. What non-smokers taste when kissing smokers is all the shit that's in ciggies, like tar, tobacco, benzyl whatever, and other delightful ingredients.
I like the taste of vanilla........
So do I, which is why I vape it. I do have coconut to try next though. And if anyone has tried chocolate let me know. "
The cappuccino I have has a great after taste of chocolate! Its really quite distinct!!
PM me and I'll send you a link to where I got it from if you want. |
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"I've been a vaper exclusively for three weeks. I was at a beer festival last night and was told that us vapers still have to stand outside, and Network Rail says we can't vape on platforms, so I guess we are still smokers to the rest of the world.
I smell and taste of vanilla personally, as nicotine has no favour. What non-smokers taste when kissing smokers is all the shit that's in ciggies, like tar, tobacco, benzyl whatever, and other delightful ingredients.
I like the taste of vanilla........
So do I, which is why I vape it. I do have coconut to try next though. And if anyone has tried chocolate let me know. "
Didn't know there was coconut ones, will have to get Luke those next as he loves coconut, he is on the cherry ones at the moment |
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By *yrdwomanWoman
over a year ago
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"I've been a vaper exclusively for three weeks. I was at a beer festival last night and was told that us vapers still have to stand outside, and Network Rail says we can't vape on platforms, so I guess we are still smokers to the rest of the world.
I smell and taste of vanilla personally, as nicotine has no favour. What non-smokers taste when kissing smokers is all the shit that's in ciggies, like tar, tobacco, benzyl whatever, and other delightful ingredients.
I like the taste of vanilla........
So do I, which is why I vape it. I do have coconut to try next though. And if anyone has tried chocolate let me know.
The cappuccino I have has a great after taste of chocolate! Its really quite distinct!!
PM me and I'll send you a link to where I got it from if you want."
I tried coffee and just couldn't get into it unfortunately. I can't drink it either so no surprises there!
My daughter is my nico-peddler. They have a shop in Leicester that does 3 x 10ml bottles for a tenner. |
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"I've been a vaper exclusively for three weeks. I was at a beer festival last night and was told that us vapers still have to stand outside, and Network Rail says we can't vape on platforms, so I guess we are still smokers to the rest of the world.
I smell and taste of vanilla personally, as nicotine has no favour. What non-smokers taste when kissing smokers is all the shit that's in ciggies, like tar, tobacco, benzyl whatever, and other delightful ingredients.
Nicotine has a very distinct taste.
I don't understand the defensiveness of some smokers/vapers/whateverers about people not wanting to meet them.
I get that it's not nice to be excluded but we all have criteria for who we do and don't want to meet.
I'm fat. I know some don't like that so I make it clear on my profile and let others make up their mind. It doesn't bother me that some people don't want to meet fat people
Lol, I'm not being defensive. As I am never likely to give you a full on snog with tongues then I am not worried about being excluded either. Obviously you are hypersensitive to nicotine, but you are not everyone, and others may think what you experience is normal when it isn't. Every dictionary and scientific description states that nicotine is flavourless and odourless, and in the case of vaping the flavour is added to the liquid so we have some gustatory pleasure to sucking on a warm metal tube.
Each to their own of course, and you are well within your rights to say 'ew no' to anyone, smoker or not. But I think some people were thinking you may have been confused between nicotine and tar, which is obviously not the case. Do whatever makes you happy. "
I have been careful to specify "some" all the way through.
Yes, I am hypersensitive to smoke and nicotine. I'm an extreme case but I have heard others say they have had the same experience. A few others.
All I'm asking is to be able to make an informed decision. |
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By *ee VianteWoman
over a year ago
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"Well it's a starter for 10 as Bamber Gascoigne would say but I hate to put cold water on your enthusiasm but nicotine is pretty nasty stuff. We are sure you can taste it in cum and spunk and it's quite bitter so sadly we'll have to give you 7 out of 10 for the effort and urge you to go further. Good thing is your pubes and armpits wont sweat the horrid odour after exertion and your breath will be much much sweeter. Wahey, all good. LOL
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Looks like I need to get a verification to say I am nicotine taste/smell free "
It might help but different people have different levels of sensitivity. I'd disregard anyone else's assessment.
However I might meet a vaper for a social to see, whereas I'd be very unlikely to meet a smoker. I would let them know it might be a problem though. |
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By *ee VianteWoman
over a year ago
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"All I'm asking is to be able to make an informed decision.
Which is why I've left my profile as 'smoker'. "
Though I'd consider non-smoker with a mention in your profile that you vape perfectly reasonable.
Vaping will be a problem for far fewer people than smoking, I'd guess. |
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"If you don't inhale or exhale smoke then no you aren't a smoker. You are now a vaper, congratulations.
For the purposes of this site I'd say you are a non-smoker. Potential meets don't care whether you are "medically" a smoker, they care whether you smell and taste like one.
Mention the vaping in your profile then everything is disclosed and people can satisfy themselves as to whether you are someone they would like to get dirty with "
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By *yrdwomanWoman
over a year ago
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"All I'm asking is to be able to make an informed decision.
Which is why I've left my profile as 'smoker'.
Though I'd consider non-smoker with a mention in your profile that you vape perfectly reasonable.
Vaping will be a problem for far fewer people than smoking, I'd guess."
But I like catching out the people who contact me with 'won't meet smokers' in their profile. I know, small pleasures etc. |
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By *ee VianteWoman
over a year ago
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"All I'm asking is to be able to make an informed decision.
Which is why I've left my profile as 'smoker'.
Though I'd consider non-smoker with a mention in your profile that you vape perfectly reasonable.
Vaping will be a problem for far fewer people than smoking, I'd guess.
But I like catching out the people who contact me with 'won't meet smokers' in their profile. I know, small pleasures etc. "
That I can relate to totally |
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With all these Flavours n colours now being bandied about + all these new "state of the art" machines i'm beginning to wonder if E-Cigarette thingies are becoming addictive in some way or just the new status symbol ,must have, keep up with the Joneses |
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"I'm one of those ex-smokers that simply won't be in the same small room as a smoker and certainly won't get vaguely intimate with one but if you have given up then I would state you are an a non-smoker and maybe put a line in about the e-cigs in your profile.
Despite your fantastic dedication to your appearance and cleanliness, you would have probably still smelled of smoke."
It's going to take a while for the smell to leave your skin as it will still be ingrained especially in your hands, best way is to ask a non smoker if they can smell or taste it on you.
I state nom smokers on my profile and I'm very strict about it but I will meet e-cig users.
Well done to you and have fun |
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By *yrdwomanWoman
over a year ago
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"With all these Flavours n colours now being bandied about + all these new "state of the art" machines i'm beginning to wonder if E-Cigarette thingies are becoming addictive in some way or just the new status symbol ,must have, keep up with the Joneses "
The starter kit can be pricy, but I've gone from spending £200 a month on fags to £5 a month on liquid. The only encouragement I need is the extra cash I can spend on other things. Like holidays.  |
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Its not just the smell and kissing a ash tray that puts me off smokers....more to do with the tar inside them.....horrid...how long does that stay in there bod y |
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By *ee VianteWoman
over a year ago
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"Its not just the smell and kissing a ash tray that puts me off smokers....more to do with the tar inside them.....horrid...how long does that stay in there bod y "
It takes months at the very least to shift it. |
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By *ee VianteWoman
over a year ago
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"With all these Flavours n colours now being bandied about + all these new "state of the art" machines i'm beginning to wonder if E-Cigarette thingies are becoming addictive in some way or just the new status symbol ,must have, keep up with the Joneses "
Studies suggest some non-smokers are becoming vapers because of the flavours, the pretty inhalers and because some think it looks cool. |
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Well done OP for 'giving up'.
We have both been smoke free for 9 months..just took 5 hours to read a book and stopped..and yes body juices, skin, clothes smell soo much nicer x
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By *yrdwomanWoman
over a year ago
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"Its not just the smell and kissing a ash tray that puts me off smokers....more to do with the tar inside them.....horrid...how long does that stay in there bod y
It takes months at the very least to shift it."
Years I think. Tar is the last thing to come out. But the good thing about not smoking is that your body does start fixing itself quite quickly. Now all I have to do is cut down on pies and cakes. |
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Had a group of young girls ask me to get them 10 richmond for them from the shop lastnight....you should have seen there faces when i came out with sausages |
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By *ee VianteWoman
over a year ago
Somewhere in North Norfolk |
"Its not just the smell and kissing a ash tray that puts me off smokers....more to do with the tar inside them.....horrid...how long does that stay in there bod y
It takes months at the very least to shift it.
Years I think. Tar is the last thing to come out. But the good thing about not smoking is that your body does start fixing itself quite quickly. Now all I have to do is cut down on pies and cakes. "
It depends on how heavy a smoker they were, how long they'd smoked, the amount of tar in their brand.
Signed
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Best case scenario is many months though it is frequently years.
I'm a bit surprised anyone would be put off by it though since it would be totally undetectable (save for perhaps a cough, I'd think). It's like not wanting to meet someone with high cholesterol, gall stones or high blood pressure.
Perfectly valid choices I suppose but they seem a little odd to me. |
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"With all these Flavours n colours now being bandied about + all these new "state of the art" machines i'm beginning to wonder if E-Cigarette thingies are becoming addictive in some way or just the new status symbol ,must have, keep up with the Joneses
Studies suggest some non-smokers are becoming vapers because of the flavours, the pretty inhalers and because some think it looks cool."
I think im gonna try n roll up one of them smelly christmas tree things you get at the car wash |
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By *yrdwomanWoman
over a year ago
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"Its not just the smell and kissing a ash tray that puts me off smokers....more to do with the tar inside them.....horrid...how long does that stay in there bod y
It takes months at the very least to shift it.
Years I think. Tar is the last thing to come out. But the good thing about not smoking is that your body does start fixing itself quite quickly. Now all I have to do is cut down on pies and cakes.
It depends on how heavy a smoker they were, how long they'd smoked, the amount of tar in their brand.
Signed
Captain Bleeding Obvious
Best case scenario is many months though it is frequently years.
I'm a bit surprised anyone would be put off by it though since it would be totally undetectable (save for perhaps a cough, I'd think). It's like not wanting to meet someone with high cholesterol, gall stones or high blood pressure.
Perfectly valid choices I suppose but they seem a little odd to me."
Perhaps he thinks it squirts out when we cum? *shrugs* |
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" to all who have stopped.
It is a great achievement."
Well done Op and anyone else who has given up. Your health is much more important than the odd meet on Fab. |
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"We dont meet smokers
The amount of guys that have said in a message that its ok cos they shower and brush their teeth before a meet which is all well and good but what they don't realise is that when a non smoker performs oral on them. They can TASTE it too and it's not nice!!!
Lou x"
. if Thats the case then i pot should start charging for a suck.... one suck and stoned for the day |
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By *ee VianteWoman
over a year ago
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"With all these Flavours n colours now being bandied about + all these new "state of the art" machines i'm beginning to wonder if E-Cigarette thingies are becoming addictive in some way or just the new status symbol ,must have, keep up with the Joneses
Studies suggest some non-smokers are becoming vapers because of the flavours, the pretty inhalers and because some think it looks cool.
I think im gonna try n roll up one of them smelly christmas tree things you get at the car wash "
Pine fresh breath. Nice You'll smell like kichen cleaner |
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Nicotine is tasteless and odourless. I can only assume that those who complain of some kind of taste issue when being intimate with nicotine users are tasting some other chemicals they add to make the nicotine 'palatable'.
Some perfumes don't smell very nice and taste awful, or some smell nice but the user is doused in it or its overpowering. The smell of some foods actually come out of your pores. There's a big list of things the hypersensitive could ask for but in the real world a line gets drawn.
If you don't actually smoke, then you're a non smoker. You're not misleading anyone by putting that on your profile. If Fab chooses to add a nicotine user tab in time then act accordingly.
I wouldn't hold your breath though......those who can after having smoked for a few years! (It's just a little joke, wouldn't want to offend the hypersensitive).
Ps. I've never smoked. |
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"Well done OP for 'giving up'.
We have both been smoke free for 9 months..just took 5 hours to read a book and stopped..and yes body juices, skin, clothes smell soo much nicer x
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Was that the Alan Carr book? |
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By *ee VianteWoman
over a year ago
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"Nicotine is tasteless and odourless. I can only assume that those who complain of some kind of taste issue when being intimate with nicotine users are tasting some other chemicals they add to make the nicotine 'palatable'.
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It doesn't taste of tobacco but it does taste. Whether thats pure nicotine or not though I am not sure. I haven't encountered it as a pure substance and I don't think I'd want to taste it if I did.
I agree it doesn't smell but I am unconvinced about the claim it's tasteless.
I'm off to do some research though. |
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By *ee VianteWoman
over a year ago
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"(S)- Nicotine (C10H14N2) is readily extracted from tobacco roots and stalks that remain after the leaves have been picked for tobacco production and from waste tobacco. It is optically pure when obtained from the tobacco plant, specific rotation (a )25D= -1690 (pure liquid). Nicotine has a bitter taste and a sharp odour."
I've not noticed the smell yet from vapers but the taste is discernible.
Initial research shows I'm not imagining it or tasting additives. I can't post links but you can all use Google. |
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"Nicotine is tasteless and odourless. I can only assume that those who complain of some kind of taste issue when being intimate with nicotine users are tasting some other chemicals they add to make the nicotine 'palatable'.
It doesn't taste of tobacco but it does taste. Whether thats pure nicotine or not though I am not sure. I haven't encountered it as a pure substance and I don't think I'd want to taste it if I did.
I agree it doesn't smell but I am unconvinced about the claim it's tasteless.
I'm off to do some research though."
While you're doing your research ask yourself why you chose to ignore the rest of my post which offered balance and a suggestion that you can't 'police' all the extremes.
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By *ee VianteWoman
over a year ago
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"Nicotine is tasteless and odourless. I can only assume that those who complain of some kind of taste issue when being intimate with nicotine users are tasting some other chemicals they add to make the nicotine 'palatable'.
It doesn't taste of tobacco but it does taste. Whether thats pure nicotine or not though I am not sure. I haven't encountered it as a pure substance and I don't think I'd want to taste it if I did.
I agree it doesn't smell but I am unconvinced about the claim it's tasteless.
I'm off to do some research though.
While you're doing your research ask yourself why you chose to ignore the rest of my post which offered balance and a suggestion that you can't 'police' all the extremes.
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I don't care about all the extremes which is a point I already made.
Enough people care about size, race, smoking etc that it's only fair to declare them, and read profiles to see if they have other crieria that might make you incompatible.
In the same way it is considerate to turn up not stinking of garlic, onions or BO, to have clean teeth etc.
If someone who claimed to be a non-smoker turned up for a meet with me tasting of nicotine, the meet would go no further. Who wants to waste people's time and have theirs wasted?
My profile is clear about not wanting to meet smokers. Is asking to be able to make an informed decision about smokers or nicotine users so unreasonable? I don't want to meet anyone who chews tobacco either, and that isn't smoking. |
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By *ee VianteWoman
over a year ago
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"I don't want to meet anyone who chews tobacco either, and that isn't smoking.
I wouldn't either. Yuk!"
You'd want them to mention it beforehand, to save disappointment and wasted effort, right? Even though they don't smoke and don't disclose their full life history? |
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over a year ago
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"I don't want to meet anyone who chews tobacco either, and that isn't smoking.
I wouldn't either. Yuk!
You'd want them to mention it beforehand, to save disappointment and wasted effort, right? Even though they don't smoke and don't disclose their full life history?"
Well if nothing else they would need a spittoon! |
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over a year ago
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"I don't want to meet anyone who chews tobacco either, and that isn't smoking.
I wouldn't either. Yuk!
You'd want them to mention it beforehand, to save disappointment and wasted effort, right? Even though they don't smoke and don't disclose their full life history?
Well if nothing else they would need a spittoon!"
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This has gone slightly off subject,
So when does Luke class himself as a non smoker?
We bith gave up a few years ago before we moved back to Kent, but the situation at the time wasn't a nice one, so I started again!
I'm looking to give up again soon! |
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"This has gone slightly off subject,
So when does Luke class himself as a non smoker?
We bith gave up a few years ago before we moved back to Kent, but the situation at the time wasn't a nice one, so I started again!
I'm looking to give up again soon! "
This is purely my opinion, but I don't think anyone who has smoked can be a non-smoker. We're ex-smokers. |
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"This has gone slightly off subject,
So when does Luke class himself as a non smoker?
We both gave up a few years ago before we moved back to Kent, but the situation at the time wasn't a nice one, so I started again!
I'm looking to give up again soon!
This is purely my opinion, but I don't think anyone who has smoked can be a non-smoker. We're ex-smokers."
Hadn't thought about it like that, but I do sort of agree with the term "ex smoker" |
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"Well done OP for 'giving up'.
We have both been smoke free for 9 months..just took 5 hours to read a book and stopped..and yes body juices, skin, clothes smell soo much nicer x
Was that the Alan Carr book?"
Yes it was. £9.99 and is saving us £500 a month
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