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By *icketysplits OP Woman
over a year ago
Way over Yonder, that's where I'm bound |
I'm nipping up to Newcastle next week and I am seriously thinking of driving having looked at the fares.
Train geeks, what circuitous route do I need to take to reduce my fare from a starting return price of £123?
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over a year ago
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"I'm nipping up to Newcastle next week and I am seriously thinking of driving having looked at the fares.
Train geeks, what circuitous route do I need to take to reduce my fare from a starting return price of £123?
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I can't help with the route but have you thought of a rail card unless it's just a one off trip |
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over a year ago
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"I'm nipping up to Newcastle next week and I am seriously thinking of driving having looked at the fares.
Train geeks, what circuitous route do I need to take to reduce my fare from a starting return price of £123?
I can't help with the route but have you thought of a rail card unless it's just a one off trip "
Discounts aren't bad |
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If you dig around, you can get cheap fares, but I dont use trains often enough to be able to help.
Its the same with air fares, you can get flights to Paris return for 22 quid, but you have to read the small print, or else you will get a shock, our tickets ended up being 239 quid for 2 of us!  |
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By *icketysplits OP Woman
over a year ago
Way over Yonder, that's where I'm bound |
I've done all of the above, apart from the railcard. Flying directly to Newcastle comes out the same as the train, however it is really quite cheap if I decide to go to Edinburgh. They don't mention how I get to Newcastle from Edinburgh.
My day has been very frustrating trying to find fares.
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I don't know how you would do it from your area, but a few years ago I found a little loophole in Virgins fare structure.
I used to travel from Preston to London quite regularly and to use the train from Preston at around 9.20am was well over 100 quid, but the later one after 10am was only 40. So I looked further down the line and after 10am from Crewe was the same 40 quid. The train that left Preston at 9.20 (ish) left Crewe just after 10am. So I bought 2 tickets, one from Preston to Crewe which cost around 15 quid and another fro Crewe to London at 40, but stayed on the same train from Preston that would have cost me well over 100.
A bit confusing but it worked. |
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By *icketysplits OP Woman
over a year ago
Way over Yonder, that's where I'm bound |
"I don't know how you would do it from your area, but a few years ago I found a little loophole in Virgins fare structure.
I used to travel from Preston to London quite regularly and to use the train from Preston at around 9.20am was well over 100 quid, but the later one after 10am was only 40. So I looked further down the line and after 10am from Crewe was the same 40 quid. The train that left Preston at 9.20 (ish) left Crewe just after 10am. So I bought 2 tickets, one from Preston to Crewe which cost around 15 quid and another fro Crewe to London at 40, but stayed on the same train from Preston that would have cost me well over 100.
A bit confusing but it worked."
That's the sort of wiggle I need to work out. I need to understand the route from Kings Cross to Newcastle as my next bit of learning for today.
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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I used to pop into a train station, certainly in falkirk they were fab at finding the best fayre and route
Not much help for you now but the further you book in advance the cheaper the fayres are, |
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By *icketysplits OP Woman
over a year ago
Way over Yonder, that's where I'm bound |
"Try east coast trains. We always use them when we travel to London.
Spotted red hanky I think they do train travel. "
I've checked both of those. I think they are on to me trying to split the fares now as it's getting more expensive looking to join the train further up the line.
Thanks for all the help. The wisdom of the forum will come up trumps at some point.
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By *abioMan
over a year ago
Newcastle and Gateshead |
try grand central to sunderland and see if they have any cheap tickets left... then get the metro into newcastle.....
other than that... not a fan of ticket splitting as it can cause issues if trains are late or cancelled....
but.... see what you can find to york... then see what you can find york to newcastle... |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"I'm nipping up to Newcastle next week and I am seriously thinking of driving having looked at the fares.
Train geeks, what circuitous route do I need to take to reduce my fare from a starting return price of £123?
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do singles 
find the main points and do sigles from there to that
should be cheaper |
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By *icketysplits OP Woman
over a year ago
Way over Yonder, that's where I'm bound |
"I'm nipping up to Newcastle next week and I am seriously thinking of driving having looked at the fares.
Train geeks, what circuitous route do I need to take to reduce my fare from a starting return price of £123?
do singles
find the main points and do sigles from there to that
should be cheaper"
It's not working. It's gone up by £15 trying to do it as singles from different places. I'm going slightly bonkers here. 
I think my brain is too small for this gargantuan task.
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By *icketysplits OP Woman
over a year ago
Way over Yonder, that's where I'm bound |
"try grand central to sunderland and see if they have any cheap tickets left... then get the metro into newcastle.....
other than that... not a fan of ticket splitting as it can cause issues if trains are late or cancelled....
but.... see what you can find to york... then see what you can find york to newcastle..."
I've been waiting for you as the Train Fare Guru.
Searching your route suggestions now. |
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"I'm nipping up to Newcastle next week and I am seriously thinking of driving having looked at the fares.
Train geeks, what circuitous route do I need to take to reduce my fare from a starting return price of £123?
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Seven and a half hours on the National Express Coach for £10  |
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By *icketysplits OP Woman
over a year ago
Way over Yonder, that's where I'm bound |
"I'm nipping up to Newcastle next week and I am seriously thinking of driving having looked at the fares.
Train geeks, what circuitous route do I need to take to reduce my fare from a starting return price of £123?
Seven and a half hours on the National Express Coach for £10 "
Do they have R4?
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By *icketysplits OP Woman
over a year ago
Way over Yonder, that's where I'm bound |
"Try from another station. When I bought my ex a 1 way ticket from tring to Newcastle it was about 30 quid. Also tring is about 40 mins from Euston. X"
Tring. Thanks, that hasn't come up on the options so far. Stevenage was more expensive. |
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By *abioMan
over a year ago
Newcastle and Gateshead |
she has sent me the dates and I know why she is struggling... she is going back on the same weekend as 50000 sunderland fans trying to get to wembley for the league cup final......lol
she is going to make me earn my way!!! |
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By *icketysplits OP Woman
over a year ago
Way over Yonder, that's where I'm bound |
"she has sent me the dates and I know why she is struggling... she is going back on the same weekend as 50000 sunderland fans trying to get to wembley for the league cup final......lol
she is going to make me earn my way!!! "
I'll buy you dinner on the Friday night. I am meeting another forum inmate for dinner. Two women and you... |
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By *icketysplits OP Woman
over a year ago
Way over Yonder, that's where I'm bound |
"Jump the Barrier  "
Have you seen how short I am? Crawling under may work better.
Fabio has given me an option which I am working through at the moment.
If that fails I may ask for someone to drive me in return for dinner. There must be someone on here returning to Newcastle next week.
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By *icketysplits OP Woman
over a year ago
Way over Yonder, that's where I'm bound |
"Try splityourticket. "
They suggested I break my journey down into too many parts. It wasn't any cheaper.
I can see why my friend valued his free rail travel allowance every year.
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Yeah, trains are extortionate and the fares often make no sense.
I thought I was reasonably capable at problem solving until today."
If you manage to solve the problem be sure to let the rest of the population know.
Stagecoach? Megabus? |
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By *icketysplits OP Woman
over a year ago
Way over Yonder, that's where I'm bound |
"Yeah, trains are extortionate and the fares often make no sense.
I thought I was reasonably capable at problem solving until today.
If you manage to solve the problem be sure to let the rest of the population know.
Stagecoach? Megabus? "
I think I am going to end up driving. Megabus may be cheap but I don't think I could bear it.
It's one straight road from my home to Newcastle. A long road but I really only have to keep going straight.
Perhaps if I had some stop off points I could begin the drive the night before and arrive with a smile on my face?
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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I used to travel every other week from Hexham to Westcliff-on-Sea (Southend), in the late 90s/early 2000s; when booking the return ticket a week beforehand, it would cost £65. When buying on the day of departure, it would cost £150.00.
A hell of a difference. But no longer. |
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By *litterbabeWoman
over a year ago
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"I don't know how you would do it from your area, but a few years ago I found a little loophole in Virgins fare structure.
I used to travel from Preston to London quite regularly and to use the train from Preston at around 9.20am was well over 100 quid, but the later one after 10am was only 40. So I looked further down the line and after 10am from Crewe was the same 40 quid. The train that left Preston at 9.20 (ish) left Crewe just after 10am. So I bought 2 tickets, one from Preston to Crewe which cost around 15 quid and another fro Crewe to London at 40, but stayed on the same train from Preston that would have cost me well over 100.
A bit confusing but it worked.
That's the sort of wiggle I need to work out. I need to understand the route from Kings Cross to Newcastle as my next bit of learning for today.
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Go to
Moneysavingexpert website it tells you all the wiggles... I'm an expert wiggler I just love to wiggle...... |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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Cheapest I've found is 38 quid single Lickety ask your station for cheapest advance fare .. Only stipulation is you have to travel on train you state you want .. If you are late your ticket is void |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Yeah, trains are extortionate and the fares often make no sense.
I thought I was reasonably capable at problem solving until today.
If you manage to solve the problem be sure to let the rest of the population know.
Stagecoach? Megabus? "
I suspect it won't be any cheaper as a late ticket purchase BUT have you tried a search on "red spotted hanky."x |
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By *icketysplits OP Woman
over a year ago
Way over Yonder, that's where I'm bound |
"Cheapest I've found is 38 quid single Lickety ask your station for cheapest advance fare .. Only stipulation is you have to travel on train you state you want .. If you are late your ticket is void"
Thanks, I'll have a look.
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By *abioMan
over a year ago
Newcastle and Gateshead |
just to fill you all in (ooo-er)
the issue is more the coming back...
since she is coming back to london on the same route as 50,000 sunderland fans going down to wembley for the league cup final, it looks as if all the cheap tickets have gone..
but i have tried to help her as much as i can..... |
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By *icketysplits OP Woman
over a year ago
Way over Yonder, that's where I'm bound |
"just to fill you all in (ooo-er)
the issue is more the coming back...
since she is coming back to london on the same route as 50,000 sunderland fans going down to wembley for the league cup final, it looks as if all the cheap tickets have gone..
but i have tried to help her as much as i can..... "
And you've been a champ. Thwarted by football.
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By *nnyMan
over a year ago
Glasgow |
It used to be the case that 2 or 3 short haul tickets worked out a good bit cheaper than one long haul.
A return Glasgow - Aberdeen was much more expensive than buying Glasgow - Perth, Perth - Dundee and Dundee - Aberdeen and back. |
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By *icketysplits OP Woman
over a year ago
Way over Yonder, that's where I'm bound |
"It used to be the case that 2 or 3 short haul tickets worked out a good bit cheaper than one long haul.
A return Glasgow - Aberdeen was much more expensive than buying Glasgow - Perth, Perth - Dundee and Dundee - Aberdeen and back."
I can reduce the outward journey cost by £30 doing that (thanks to Flick's suggestion) but I'm not having any luck reducing the return journey unless I stay another couple of nights. The cost of staying longer eradicates the savings on the train.
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This is why are roads are so blocked , its cheaper to drive than train most times. Privatising the railway was a huge mistake, prices rise so less people use them so prices rise again to cover the loss. We live nr a station on a main line and every other train outside of rushhour is empty |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"just to fill you all in (ooo-er)
the issue is more the coming back...
since she is coming back to london on the same route as 50,000 sunderland fans going down to wembley for the league cup final, it looks as if all the cheap tickets have gone..
but i have tried to help her as much as i can.....
And you've been a champ. Thwarted by football.
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Does it have to be that weekend? Or look at leaving a bit earlier to miss the footie crowd. Or book 3 months ago.  |
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By *icketysplits OP Woman
over a year ago
Way over Yonder, that's where I'm bound |
"just to fill you all in (ooo-er)
the issue is more the coming back...
since she is coming back to london on the same route as 50,000 sunderland fans going down to wembley for the league cup final, it looks as if all the cheap tickets have gone..
but i have tried to help her as much as i can.....
And you've been a champ. Thwarted by football.
Does it have to be that weekend? Or look at leaving a bit earlier to miss the footie crowd. Or book 3 months ago. "
It does and how was I to know Sunderland would make it to Wembley? Why didn't anyone tell me this was even a possibility?
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By *umpkinMan
over a year ago
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"Have a look via the trainline.com "
Not the best site to use at all! Go to National Rail`s website and this will get you the best prices. Not sure of your journey but it can be sometimes cheaper to "split" your journey e.g. Plymouth to Taunton/Taunton to Bristol is cheaper than Plymouth to Bristol but still uses the same train! You don`t even have to get off, just produce your ticket for the appropriate section of the journey!  |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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You can trade in Tesco club are vouchers for redspottedhanky vouchers. £5 cc vouchers equals £10 rsh vouchers. Just booked a return to London and its only costing me £4 in real money.
You can also use cc vouchers on mega us, also worth double |
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By *yrdwomanWoman
over a year ago
Putting the 'cum' in Eboracum |
"If you have time get a rail card as it may pays its worth over time."
What railcard could she get? I thought the only railcards you could get were senior, 16-23, and family, and Lickety is none of those. |
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By *ee VianteWoman
over a year ago
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"If you have time get a rail card as it may pays its worth over time.
What railcard could she get? I thought the only railcards you could get were senior, 16-23, and family, and Lickety is none of those."
Disabled too.
Lickety, we could chop a limb off for you or something. |
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By *icketysplits OP Woman
over a year ago
Way over Yonder, that's where I'm bound |
"If you have time get a rail card as it may pays its worth over time.
What railcard could she get? I thought the only railcards you could get were senior, 16-23, and family, and Lickety is none of those."
I need one for a muddle aged short fat woman. |
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By *yrdwomanWoman
over a year ago
Putting the 'cum' in Eboracum |
"If you have time get a rail card as it may pays its worth over time.
What railcard could she get? I thought the only railcards you could get were senior, 16-23, and family, and Lickety is none of those.
I need one for a muddle aged short fat woman."
Or just a muddled woman  |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"If you have time get a rail card as it may pays its worth over time.
What railcard could she get? I thought the only railcards you could get were senior, 16-23, and family, and Lickety is none of those.
Disabled too.
Lickety, we could chop a limb off for you or something. "
Or she could put her hair in pigtails and say she's 19. |
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By *umpkinMan
over a year ago
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"If you have time get a rail card as it may pays its worth over time.
What railcard could she get? I thought the only railcards you could get were senior, 16-23, and family, and Lickety is none of those."
I think there is still is a Network Card available. Basically valid in Wessex, the Home Counties, Kent, Essex etc. and gives 1/3 off discount of off peak tickets. One really usefull one they do is the One Day Travelcard which is travel to and from London combined with travel on train, bus tube and DLR. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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I use the trains all the time I have a rail card and I book well in advance that is really the only way to get train tickets very cheap, you can book upto 3 months in advance |
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