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Vanessa Mae

By (user no longer on site) OP over a year ago

Vanessa Mae will trade in her violin for skis and poles when she makes her bow on the Olympic stage in the women's giant slalom on Wednesday.

Stick to what you are good at!!!

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By *emmefataleWoman over a year ago

dirtybigbadsgirlville

"Vanessa Mae will trade in her violin for skis and poles when she makes her bow on the Olympic stage in the women's giant slalom on Wednesday.

Stick to what you are good at!!!

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Why is she crap at skiing?

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

she might be better on snow.. people are great at all kinds of things

give her a chance

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By (user no longer on site) OP over a year ago

"Vanessa Mae will trade in her violin for skis and poles when she makes her bow on the Olympic stage in the women's giant slalom on Wednesday.

Stick to what you are good at!!!

Why is she crap at skiing?

Perfect example of how to lower the standard of the games and the answer is yes lol

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

she cant be that bad as the olympic criteria has been changed to stop things like eddy the eagle or eric the eel happening again, which is a shame

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By (user no longer on site) OP over a year ago

"she might be better on snow.. people are great at all kinds of things

give her a chance "

No need to give her a chance if you look how she has managed to participate

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By (user no longer on site) OP over a year ago

"she cant be that bad as the olympic criteria has been changed to stop things like eddy the eagle or eric the eel happening again, which is a shame"

The BOA has indeed that's why she has gone with Thailand

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"she cant be that bad as the olympic criteria has been changed to stop things like eddy the eagle or eric the eel happening again, which is a shame

The BOA has indeed that's why she has gone with Thailand"

not sure that thailand has money to throw at a shit skier just so she can scratch an itch, as it were.

and she is thai through heritage.

lets be honest, not like britain has many great skiers either.

i will hold my lambasting until after she has skiid/skied, however its spelt lol

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By *ranny-CrumpetWoman over a year ago

The Town by The Cross

Vanessa has been skiing sinde the age of 4.

She trained with others athletes who are competing.

She met the qualifying standards to enter.

I don't hold out a lot of hope for a Gold or even a medal but im very impressed by her.

Talented in more ways than one.

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By (user no longer on site) OP over a year ago

"she cant be that bad as the olympic criteria has been changed to stop things like eddy the eagle or eric the eel happening again, which is a shame

The BOA has indeed that's why she has gone with Thailand

not sure that thailand has money to throw at a shit skier just so she can scratch an itch, as it were.

and she is thai through heritage.

lets be honest, not like britain has many great skiers either.

i will hold my lambasting until after she has skiid/skied, however its spelt lol"

I would be a little bit impressed if she entered the downhill,super g or the slalom but she has chosen the easiest lol

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By (user no longer on site) OP over a year ago

"Vanessa has been skiing sinde the age of 4.

She trained with others athletes who are competing.

She met the qualifying standards to enter.

I don't hold out a lot of hope for a Gold or even a medal but im very impressed by her.

Talented in more ways than one."

Obviously you don't know much about ski racing.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

well, although i know you do winter sports, im guessing you arent there represtenting britain/scotland so find your insulting tone towards someone that is competing a little off, to say the least.

she is obviously better than you.

is she better than any of the others?

who knows until wednesday.

sure she has a better chance as long as she aint playing the violin whilst going down the hill.

i have nothing but admiration for anyone that is good enough at their chosen sport to represent their country of choice at any event.

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By (user no longer on site) OP over a year ago

"well, although i know you do winter sports, im guessing you arent there represtenting britain/scotland so find your insulting tone towards someone that is competing a little off, to say the least.

she is obviously better than you.

is she better than any of the others?

who knows until wednesday.

sure she has a better chance as long as she aint playing the violin whilst going down the hill.

i have nothing but admiration for anyone that is good enough at their chosen sport to represent their country of choice at any event."

Believe me she is no where near as good as me lol

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By (user no longer on site) OP over a year ago

Anyone can get into the games the way she has gone about it.

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By *ranny-CrumpetWoman over a year ago

The Town by The Cross

"Vanessa has been skiing sinde the age of 4.

She trained with others athletes who are competing.

She met the qualifying standards to enter.

I don't hold out a lot of hope for a Gold or even a medal but im very impressed by her.

Talented in more ways than one.

Obviously you don't know much about ski racing.

No but I know a bit about the green eyed monster

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Billie if your so shit hot why arent you out there rather than just talking the talk??

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"well, although i know you do winter sports, im guessing you arent there represtenting britain/scotland so find your insulting tone towards someone that is competing a little off, to say the least.

she is obviously better than you.

is she better than any of the others?

who knows until wednesday.

sure she has a better chance as long as she aint playing the violin whilst going down the hill.

i have nothing but admiration for anyone that is good enough at their chosen sport to represent their country of choice at any event.

Believe me she is no where near as good as me lol "

and yet she is there doing her bit, and you are on here being bitter.

bored now

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By *ranny-CrumpetWoman over a year ago

The Town by The Cross

"Anyone can get into the games the way she has gone about it."

Oh come on then Billy .... how has she gone about it ?

She qualified in legitimate races in bonified places as far as I know.....

Educate me.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

I like Vanessa Mae.

Good luck to her. If she's as good on the snow as she is in music then she might end up with a medal.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Just have to accept that some people are talented at anything they try....

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By *phroditeWoman over a year ago

(She/ her) in Sensualityland

I do not rate her as outstanding on the violin compared to eg Nigel Kennedy, but if she can ski why should she not compete?

Some people are genuinely mutlitalented.

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By *iewMan over a year ago
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Angus & Findhorn

as long as she didn't hack someone with a machette, I couldn't care less..

good luck to her

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By *phroditeWoman over a year ago

(She/ her) in Sensualityland

"as long as she didn't hack someone with a machette, I couldn't care less..

good luck to her

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Is that another one of her talents? Didnt know about that one

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By (user no longer on site) OP over a year ago

"well, although i know you do winter sports, im guessing you arent there represtenting britain/scotland so find your insulting tone towards someone that is competing a little off, to say the least.

she is obviously better than you.

is she better than any of the others?

who knows until wednesday.

sure she has a better chance as long as she aint playing the violin whilst going down the hill.

i have nothing but admiration for anyone that is good enough at their chosen sport to represent their country of choice at any event.

Believe me she is no where near as good as me lol

and yet she is there doing her bit, and you are on here being bitter.

bored now"

You really think so? you have no idea then

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"well, although i know you do winter sports, im guessing you arent there represtenting britain/scotland so find your insulting tone towards someone that is competing a little off, to say the least.

she is obviously better than you.

is she better than any of the others?

who knows until wednesday.

sure she has a better chance as long as she aint playing the violin whilst going down the hill.

i have nothing but admiration for anyone that is good enough at their chosen sport to represent their country of choice at any event.

Believe me she is no where near as good as me lol

and yet she is there doing her bit, and you are on here being bitter.

bored now

You really think so? you have no idea then

ah, just realised,

you are one of the womens curling team arent you

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By (user no longer on site) OP over a year ago

Im from the crowd who believes the games summer and winter are for those serious athletes who spend years and years of training and competing at World cup level and not for these folk who just want to have a bash and become an Olympian.

To become an Olympian you have to earn it!!

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By *isscheekychopsWoman over a year ago

The land of grey peas and bacon

I bet she is not as bad as Eddie the eagle

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By (user no longer on site) OP over a year ago

"well, although i know you do winter sports, im guessing you arent there represtenting britain/scotland so find your insulting tone towards someone that is competing a little off, to say the least.

she is obviously better than you.

is she better than any of the others?

who knows until wednesday.

sure she has a better chance as long as she aint playing the violin whilst going down the hill.

i have nothing but admiration for anyone that is good enough at their chosen sport to represent their country of choice at any event.

Believe me she is no where near as good as me lol

and yet she is there doing her bit, and you are on here being bitter.

bored now

You really think so? you have no idea then

ah, just realised,

you are one of the womens curling team arent you

Ha ha obviously you dont have a clue about top level sports.

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By (user no longer on site) OP over a year ago

"I bet she is not as bad as Eddie the eagle

I will have a bet with you lol

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"well, although i know you do winter sports, im guessing you arent there represtenting britain/scotland so find your insulting tone towards someone that is competing a little off, to say the least.

she is obviously better than you.

is she better than any of the others?

who knows until wednesday.

sure she has a better chance as long as she aint playing the violin whilst going down the hill.

i have nothing but admiration for anyone that is good enough at their chosen sport to represent their country of choice at any event.

Believe me she is no where near as good as me lol

and yet she is there doing her bit, and you are on here being bitter.

bored now

You really think so? you have no idea then

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it's amazing to think she got to Sochi and you got the Cairngorms guess i would need to think which one i would be in and she can play one mean tune on a fiddle guess u av that talent too but alas she made more money than you a terrible thing thats she is part Thai too

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By *ranny-CrumpetWoman over a year ago

The Town by The Cross

"Im from the crowd who believes the games summer and winter are for those serious athletes who spend years and years of training and competing at World cup level and not for these folk who just want to have a bash and become an Olympian.

To become an Olympian you have to earn it!! "

I so want her to win now

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"well, although i know you do winter sports, im guessing you arent there represtenting britain/scotland so find your insulting tone towards someone that is competing a little off, to say the least.

she is obviously better than you.

is she better than any of the others?

who knows until wednesday.

sure she has a better chance as long as she aint playing the violin whilst going down the hill.

i have nothing but admiration for anyone that is good enough at their chosen sport to represent their country of choice at any event.

Believe me she is no where near as good as me lol

and yet she is there doing her bit, and you are on here being bitter.

bored now

You really think so? you have no idea then

ah, just realised,

you are one of the womens curling team arent you

Ha ha obviously you dont have a clue about top level sports."

and you know everything about being condescending.

the olympics was actually started for amateurs, not professionals, so the modern olympics are a bastardisation of the original ethos, at best.

at worst a way of manipulating people to make millions for a faceless organisation that runs cities into debt in order to host the event (think Sydney is the ONLY city to have turned a profit from any olympics)

if this is your idea of being earned, then think of all the poor taxpayers of cities that have spent fortunes to host them and have fook all to show for it other than empty unused stadia.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

so Billie why aren't you over there in Russia then?

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By (user no longer on site) OP over a year ago

To become an Olympian you have to earn it!!

I so want her to win now "

Don't hold your breath lol

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By (user no longer on site) OP over a year ago

"so Billie why aren't you over there in Russia then? "

Retired from the Professional Ski world years ago

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Always thought you needed to obtain or meet the minimum entry level/times etc to enter any Olympic sport...once you have you would be selected?

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By *ranny-CrumpetWoman over a year ago

The Town by The Cross

Can people retire before hitting puberty ?

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By (user no longer on site) OP over a year ago

"well, although i know you do winter sports, im guessing you arent there represtenting britain/scotland so find your insulting tone towards someone that is competing a little off, to say the least.

she is obviously better than you.

is she better than any of the others?

who knows until wednesday.

sure she has a better chance as long as she aint playing the violin whilst going down the hill.

i have nothing but admiration for anyone that is good enough at their chosen sport to represent their country of choice at any event.

Believe me she is no where near as good as me lol

and yet she is there doing her bit, and you are on here being bitter.

bored now

You really think so? you have no idea then

it's amazing to think she got to Sochi and you got the Cairngorms guess i would need to think which one i would be in and she can play one mean tune on a fiddle guess u av that talent too but alas she made more money than you a terrible thing thats she is part Thai too

Have the Cairngorms but wouldn't waste my time with them.

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By *ranny-CrumpetWoman over a year ago

The Town by The Cross

"Always thought you needed to obtain or meet the minimum entry level/times etc to enter any Olympic sport...once you have you would be selected?"

She did. She qualified officially

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Always thought you needed to obtain or meet the minimum entry level/times etc to enter any Olympic sport...once you have you would be selected?

She did. She qualified officially"

There you go....

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

so, mr bottle, eddie finished last.

if mae doesnt you agree you know nothing?

its a bet you accepted

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By (user no longer on site) OP over a year ago

"so, mr bottle, eddie finished last.

if mae doesnt you agree you know nothing?

its a bet you accepted"

My bet she will be DNF

Wouldn't agree as I know alot about the world of skiing. lol

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By *ustcutieWoman over a year ago

edinburgh

Cringing

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By *ranny-CrumpetWoman over a year ago

The Town by The Cross

Does selling thermal wear in Lidl count ?

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By (user no longer on site) OP over a year ago

"Does selling thermal wear in Lidl count ?"

Definitely

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Hmmm wonder how her insurance company will act if she gets badly injured in the Giant Slalom

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By *phroditeWoman over a year ago

(She/ her) in Sensualityland

"Hmmm wonder how her insurance company will act if she gets badly injured in the Giant Slalom

Really good point when considering how ordinary skiiers have to take out expensive ski insurance. Vanessa would have her hands insured but it must be a horrendous premium?

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By (user no longer on site) OP over a year ago

Olympic update!!

All of these have qualified and now can enter the games for Team GB

Sir Steve Redgrave

Kimberly Wyatt

Ritchie Neville

Joe McElderry

Marcus Brigstocke

Anthea Turner

Laura Hamilton

Donal MacIntyre

Nicky Clarke

Amy Childs

Henry Conway

Darren Gough

Melinda Messenger

Sinitta

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Hmmm wonder how her insurance company will act if she gets badly injured in the Giant Slalom

Really good point when considering how ordinary skiiers have to take out expensive ski insurance. Vanessa would have her hands insured but it must be a horrendous premium? "

Yep that's what I was thinking

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By *isscheekychopsWoman over a year ago

The land of grey peas and bacon

I'm sure she will do well good luck to her

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

It's more a case of fulfilling a lifetime ambition for her I think. I hope it all goes well for her too. But wow can she play the violin!

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Were the terms of qualifying not reduced dramatically for countries with no or little history of winter sports?

She most definitely does not ski to World Cup standards and cannot possibly be in the league of anything other than an enthusiastic amateur so Billy is right about her skiing and it's silly to say why is he not there skiing instead.

The point I'd make is should the qualfying rules be easier for some countries than others and should yhe UK have handed back 4/5 places out of 8 when there were skiers capable of a good show?

Good luck to her for trying though

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By *ugby 123Couple over a year ago
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O o O oo

"Were the terms of qualifying not reduced dramatically for countries with no or little history of winter sports?

The point I'd make is should the qualfying rules be easier for some countries than others and should yhe UK have handed back 4/5 places out of 8 when there were skiers capable of a good show?

Good luck to her for trying though"

Is that the female or male half answering?

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Vanessa Mae will trade in her violin for skis and poles when she makes her bow on the Olympic stage in the women's giant slalom on Wednesday.

Stick to what you are good at!!!

Why is she crap at skiing?

Perfect example of how to lower the standard of the games and the answer is yes lol"

can anyone just do the Olympics then? I thought you had to qualify

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Vanessa has been skiing sinde the age of 4.

She trained with others athletes who are competing.

She met the qualifying standards to enter.

I don't hold out a lot of hope for a Gold or even a medal but im very impressed by her.

Talented in more ways than one."

I believe she qualified under her family name as to stop any media hounding.

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By *ittle_brat_evie!!Woman over a year ago

evesham

For someone who was supposedly in the 'professional' ski world you are being very unsportsmanlike.

There were qualifying criteria and she met it. Whether or not you like there criteria is irrelevant.

If she isn't that great a skiier then she won't trouble any 'serious' athletes for medal contention so shouldn't affect your enjoyment of the games really.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Were the terms of qualifying not reduced dramatically for countries with no or little history of winter sports?

The point I'd make is should the qualfying rules be easier for some countries than others and should yhe UK have handed back 4/5 places out of 8 when there were skiers capable of a good show?

Good luck to her for trying though"

Wise indeed is the man who agrees with himself......

Go Vanessa go!!!!!

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By *ranny-CrumpetWoman over a year ago

The Town by The Cross

hi ,

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

True or false? Vanessa Mae.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"For someone who was supposedly in the 'professional' ski world you are being very unsportsmanlike.

Bitterness is a common characteristic of the never quite made its in sport.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Vanessa has been skiing sinde the age of 4.

She trained with others athletes who are competing.

She met the qualifying standards to enter.

I don't hold out a lot of hope for a Gold or even a medal but im very impressed by her.

Talented in more ways than one."

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By (user no longer on site) OP over a year ago

"For someone who was supposedly in the 'professional' ski world you are being very unsportsmanlike.

Bitterness is a common characteristic of the never quite made its in sport. "

Ha ha you have no idea what I have or have not done in my life.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"I do not rate her as outstanding on the violin compared to eg Nigel Kennedy, but if she can ski why should she not compete?

Some people are genuinely mutlitalented.

here here

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By *iss_tressWoman over a year ago

London

"well, although i know you do winter sports, im guessing you arent there represtenting britain/scotland so find your insulting tone towards someone that is competing a little off, to say the least.

she is obviously better than you.

is she better than any of the others?

who knows until wednesday.

sure she has a better chance as long as she aint playing the violin whilst going down the hill.

i have nothing but admiration for anyone that is good enough at their chosen sport to represent their country of choice at any event."

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By *iss_tressWoman over a year ago

London

"Vanessa has been skiing sinde the age of 4.

She trained with others athletes who are competing.

She met the qualifying standards to enter.

I don't hold out a lot of hope for a Gold or even a medal but im very impressed by her.

Talented in more ways than one.

Obviously you don't know much about ski racing.

No but I know a bit about the green eyed monster"

Don't we all!

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

I'd be on the right side

OH...THAT kind of skiing...sorry

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By (user no longer on site) OP over a year ago

"Vanessa has been skiing sinde the age of 4.

She trained with others athletes who are competing.

She met the qualifying standards to enter.

I don't hold out a lot of hope for a Gold or even a medal but im very impressed by her.

Talented in more ways than one.

Obviously you don't know much about ski racing.

No but I know a bit about the green eyed monster"

Are you sure about that?

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By *ee VianteWoman over a year ago

Somewhere in North Norfolk

"For someone who was supposedly in the 'professional' ski world you are being very unsportsmanlike.

Bitterness is a common characteristic of the never quite made its in sport.

Ha ha you have no idea what I have or have not done in my life.

We didn't until you posted this

I'd have thought an alleged retired professional sportsman would support anyone who had participated in a sport since the age of 4, qualified to represent a country in an international contest and had the balls to do it.

I am especially impressed by an amateur winning the opportunity to compete in an event against professionals.

As for how much training she has or hasn't done, how often and for how long, it's irrelevant. She qualified. The end. Perhaps she just has natural talent.

It's always a shame to hear anyone slate those who've put in the effort to achieve their goals and make their dreams reality.

I'm smelling bitterness and sour grapes.

Good luck to her and all her fellow Olympians.

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By (user no longer on site) OP over a year ago

"For someone who was supposedly in the 'professional' ski world you are being very unsportsmanlike.

Bitterness is a common characteristic of the never quite made its in sport.

Ha ha you have no idea what I have or have not done in my life.

We didn't until you posted this

I am especially impressed by an amateur winning the opportunity to compete in an event against professionals.

As for how much training she has or hasn't done, how often and for how long, it's irrelevant. She qualified. The end. Perhaps she just has natural talent.

It's always a shame to hear anyone slate those who've put in the effort to achieve their goals and make their dreams reality.

I'm smelling bitterness and sour grapes.

Good luck to her and all her fellow Olympians."

I would and have supported those who have busted their balls day in day out with all year round training and competing year after year to compete at the highest level.

There are many youngsters out there in this country doing this with the ambition to get to the top but just miss out on the opportunity and along comes people like her who can not qualify under the BOA guidlines and then take the easy route!!

Bitterness and sour grapes not for me but yes for those up and coming youngsters.

How many on here have enjoyed the games because of the high standards?

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

the standards have meant nothing to my enjoyment.

i think the figure skating is awful, but enjoyed it for what it was, people falling on their arses and everything.

the standards, high or otherwise, are for the competitors.

the spectacle is for the observers

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Isn't there some kind of Olympic ethos about athletes from different nations coming together and the importance of taking part rather than winning?

If only the top three with a chance of a medal were allowed to compete, the games would be pretty thin. For every winner there must be losers and not everyone who strives for it can reach the top spot.

Vanessa Mae has qualified for Thailand and has just as much right to compete in the Olympics as Kevin Pietersen does to play cricket for England. If not more so.

There are qualifying standards that must be met and she has met them to be there. If she hasn't competed on the circuit all season it makes her achievements all the more impressive.

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By *ittle_brat_evie!!Woman over a year ago

evesham

"For someone who was supposedly in the 'professional' ski world you are being very unsportsmanlike.

Bitterness is a common characteristic of the never quite made its in sport.

Ha ha you have no idea what I have or have not done in my life.

We didn't until you posted this

I am especially impressed by an amateur winning the opportunity to compete in an event against professionals.

As for how much training she has or hasn't done, how often and for how long, it's irrelevant. She qualified. The end. Perhaps she just has natural talent.

It's always a shame to hear anyone slate those who've put in the effort to achieve their goals and make their dreams reality.

I'm smelling bitterness and sour grapes.

Good luck to her and all her fellow Olympians.

I would and have supported those who have busted their balls day in day out with all year round training and competing year after year to compete at the highest level.

Bitterness and sour grapes not for me but yes for those up and coming youngsters.

How many on here have enjoyed the games because of the high standards?"

If Vanessa Mae had tried to ski for this country she wouldn't have got through because of the many other talented skiiers we have so she did what many other sports people across many other sports did and looked along her heritage to find a country where she had a shot of getting on the team. She hasn't taken the place of a more deserving skiier because Thailand doesn't have a more deserving skiier!

If you were that great in your professional career how come you're not out there coaching our Olympic hopefuls?

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

I suppose selling hotdogs in a ski resort is technically classed as working in the skiing industry

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By *ee VianteWoman over a year ago

Somewhere in North Norfolk

It's just struck me that this is typical forum fodder.

We have a person, out there doing what they enjoy, living a dream and finding a way to make it work.

And we have someone in here, on the Internet, bitching to strangers about it and claiming to be better.

I wonder which person is feeling happier and more fulfilled.

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By (user no longer on site) OP over a year ago

"It's just struck me that this is typical forum fodder.

We have a person, out there doing what they enjoy, living a dream and finding a way to make it work.

And we have someone in here, on the Internet, bitching to strangers about it and claiming to be better.

I wonder which person is feeling happier and more fulfilled.

Ha ha Keep on wondering as you will never know!!!

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By *ugby 123Couple over a year ago
Forum Mod

O o O oo

I have to agree to just one comment way up there.....I am cringing at this thread too

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By *ugby 123Couple over a year ago
Forum Mod

O o O oo

I have removed a post as it looks like a real name was posted by accident

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Vanessa has been skiing sinde the age of 4.

She trained with others athletes who are competing.

She met the qualifying standards to enter.

I don't hold out a lot of hope for a Gold

or even a medal but im very impressed

by her.

Talented in more ways than one."

Well said!

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"It's just struck me that this is typical forum fodder.

We have a person, out there doing what they enjoy, living a dream and finding a way to make it work.

And we have someone in here, on the Internet, bitching to strangers about it and claiming to be better.

I wonder which person is feeling happier and more fulfilled.

Living the dream

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By *obbyCock36Man over a year ago

Bournemouth

lol she came 26th was it worth it?

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By *icecouple561Couple over a year ago
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East Sussex

"It's just struck me that this is typical forum fodder.

We have a person, out there doing what they enjoy, living a dream and finding a way to make it work.

And we have someone in here, on the Internet, bitching to strangers about it and claiming to be better.

I wonder which person is feeling happier and more fulfilled.

This thread aside you've summed up many a forum thread there, indeed many an attitude in life.

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By *icecouple561Couple over a year ago
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East Sussex

"lol she came 26th was it worth it?"

To her? Probably.

Someone up thread mentioned the olympic spirit, it has shown itself here but not in every post.

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By *ee VianteWoman over a year ago

Somewhere in North Norfolk

"It's just struck me that this is typical forum fodder.

We have a person, out there doing what they enjoy, living a dream and finding a way to make it work.

And we have someone in here, on the Internet, bitching to strangers about it and claiming to be better.

I wonder which person is feeling happier and more fulfilled.

Ha ha Keep on wondering as you will never know!!!"

I have a fair idea.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

She qualified in the top 30 and finished inside that

Obviously it was worth it

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By *icecouple561Couple over a year ago
Forum Mod

East Sussex

I'd settle for skiing half as well, playing the violin half as well and looking half as good as Vanessa Mar

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By *icecouple561Couple over a year ago
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East Sussex

Mae

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"I'd settle for skiing half as well, playing the violin half as well and looking half as good as Vanessa Mar

Would you be up for a meet then ?

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By (user no longer on site) OP over a year ago

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By *ames blackMan over a year ago

Middlesbrough

I competed successfully in my sport at a high level.

I 'knew' that any comp I entered I would have a chance of finishing in the top 3 (& usually did).

I always admired the ones who turned up to take part knowing they had little or no chance of winning. They are the ones who keep a sport alive, not the elite few!

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By *obbyCock36Man over a year ago

Bournemouth

that's reassuring back to the expected level in here....

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By *icecouple561Couple over a year ago
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East Sussex

"I'd settle for skiing half as well, playing the violin half as well and looking half as good as Vanessa Mar

Would you be up for a meet then ?

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"She qualified in the top 30 and finished inside that

Obviously it was worth it "

so, she finished better than dead last?

so better than eddie the eagle?

so billy lost his bet?

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

She was 67th and last of the finishers, according to the BBC results.

She did finish- she was never going to go that fast-, she's a hobby skier and she's not that young so good luck to her.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

So think he won his bet fair and square lol.

I know Billy- he is talking from real serious experience in World Cup downhill ski racing- but he is more than capable of defending his _iews if he chose to on his own. It is interesting, however, that she is being lambasted in the media not only for how she skied but for turning the situation into a marketing opportunity.

I like the thought of a game loser as well as the rest and who knows how many Thai people will now frequent the Japanese slopes giving winter sports a go. It's a shame though that as a rule, we, in this country, don't support the home athletes who slog relentlessly from childhood to train, their families sacrificing so much in time and money. Instead, the BOC hands back the places they could have taken presumably because they wouldn't win.......they should have been game losers too. And their qualification criteria was much tougher.

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By (user no longer on site) OP over a year ago

Here is a good laugh about sharing the olympic spirit with other athletes.Vanessa isn't staying in the athletes village because her dog wasn't allowed in there but instead she is staying at a hotel.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Here is a good laugh about sharing the olympic spirit with other athletes.Vanessa isn't staying in the athletes village because her dog wasn't allowed in there but instead she is staying at a hotel. "

Yeah we get that you don't like her...

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

How on earth is finishing 67th out of 87 deemed to be finishing last? If some of the other 20 aren't even good enough to stay upright till the end then, on the day, V Mae was better than them.

Quick point about looking along her heritage line to qualify to represent Thailand, one doesn't have to look too far to find ones own Father.

Without such as Vanessa Mae and others, just what distinguishes the Olympics from the regular tour event such as World Cup skiing?

Serious question for you Billy, as regards "up and coming" competitors.

In the two man bob, finishing 23 out of 30, well behind the best, the "Team GB" pilot, SIX years experience, was described as a work in progress, a "prospect" for Korea in four years time.

Is he any more deserving of an Olympic place, the spotlight. or any less of a failure than Vanessa Mae is?

At least i#'m guessing that V Mae wasn't and won't be a burden on the taxpayer.

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By *ittle_brat_evie!!Woman over a year ago

evesham

Well a dog is for life as they say.

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By *abioMan over a year ago

Newcastle and Gateshead

I would be a little bit impressed if she entered the downhill,super g or the slalom but she has chosen the easiest lol

actually billy... shows what little you know about alpine skiing...

if you ask a skiier which discipline is actually the hardest to master... they will actually say giant slalom... because the is the one where you actually need to be the most all round.. the speedwork and downhill gliding and the technical ability of the turns....

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By *isscheekychopsWoman over a year ago

The land of grey peas and bacon

I really have to ask what has she ever done to you for u to have such malice over a complete stranger....

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

simple.

racism.

The end.

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By *ittle_brat_evie!!Woman over a year ago

evesham

"simple.

racism.

The end."

Why racism?

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

The original post person.. Keeps going about heritage and cost to the taxpayer...

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"simple.

racism.

The end."

Aren't most Alpine skiing events races?

Unlike the more subjective "jumping and twirling events" where amongst many things i've noticed the US judges are usually at one extreme or the other in their scores.

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By *abioMan over a year ago

Newcastle and Gateshead

Unlike the more subjective "jumping and twirling events" where amongst many things i've noticed the US judges are usually at one extreme or the other in their scores.

doesn't matter because in most events that are judged... they will elimate the highest and lowest scores....

so for example in the aerials... 5 judges... take off highest and lowest scores and use the 3 in the middle....

here to help.....

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By *iss_tressWoman over a year ago

London

"simple.

racism.

The end."

Hmmm...jealous? Perhaps. Racist? Can't see it.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

She was 67th out of 67 finishers. She skied carefully and slowly and wasn't competing which I understand because that was never the point of entering but the ones who fell were giving it their all . She was last by a village mile. But she did it.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"She was 67th out of 67 finishers. She skied carefully and slowly and wasn't competing which I understand because that was never the point of entering but the ones who fell were giving it their all . She was last by a village mile. But she did it."

some of us like cuming last

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Vanessa Mae will trade in her violin for skis and poles when she makes her bow on the Olympic stage in the women's giant slalom on Wednesday.

Stick to what you are good at!!!

Why is she crap at skiing?

She wouldnt be.anywhere near if she was crap. Even if she comes last by nature of the event she is world class. She can fiddle with me anytime she likes too....

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Poor lass, having to live in Zermatt too.

oooh the shame.

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By (user no longer on site) OP over a year ago

I would be a little bit impressed if she entered the downhill,super g or the slalom but she has chosen the easiest lol

actually billy... shows what little you know about alpine skiing...

It was the easiest race for HER in light of her abilities. The others require skills she didn't have and yes you are right about the GS it is used to train for the speed disciplines.

I'm well aware of what is required in an alpine skier.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Good luck to her its not all about winning.

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By *obbyCock36Man over a year ago

Bournemouth

I'm looking forward to ladies bobsleigh, toned bodies in skin tight outfits.....

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

After what happened to schumacher make it safe as you can for yourself.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

well, she is arguably the 67th best in the world, so seeings as thats a population of what?? 7 billion (as of 2010) then she isnt doing too badly for an amateur.

anyone else that thinks they are better than she are obviously welcome to do the trials for the next skiing events.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"I'm looking forward to ladies bobsleigh, toned bodies in skin tight outfits....."

watched it earlier.

the ladies arent anywhere nearly as toned as the guys

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"well, she is arguably the 67th best in the world, so seeings as thats a population of what?? 7 billion (as of 2010) then she isnt doing too badly for an amateur.

anyone else that thinks they are better than she are obviously welcome to do the trials for the next skiing events."

Last is last lol. But since Britain handed back more than half of our places to the OC, we won't have any slots to fill next time. So......not much point in newbies training up for the events never mind fulfilling the BOC stringent requirements. THAT worries me. Someone getting a shot at a big race doesn't- it's a distraction.

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By *abioMan over a year ago

Newcastle and Gateshead

It was the easiest race for HER in light of her abilities. The others require skills she didn't have and yes you are right about the GS it is used to train for the speed disciplines.

I'm well aware of what is required in an alpine skier.

in which case I think it is absolutely fair to ask from what background and level of skiing do you have to critise hers?

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

I wouldn't mind being the 67th best swinger in the world

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By *athylacyTV/TS over a year ago

Maidstone

I would love to go out for a night out to a club with Vanessa... Would love to have her cast off men...

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

It was the easiest race for HER in light of her abilities. The others require skills she didn't have and yes you are right about the GS it is used to train for the speed disciplines.

I'm well aware of what is required in an alpine skier.

in which case I think it is absolutely fair to ask from what background and level of skiing do you have to critise hers?"

On a swinging site? Really? Want his name and address too?

Just read the media reports about her performance, why she competed and what she qualified for tomorrow and you will see exactly the _iews of the rest of the skiing world

Let's leave it at that.

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By *ee VianteWoman over a year ago

Somewhere in North Norfolk

I would be a little bit impressed if she entered the downhill,super g or the slalom but she has chosen the easiest lol

actually billy... shows what little you know about alpine skiing...

It was the easiest race for HER in light of her abilities. The others require skills she didn't have and yes you are right about the GS it is used to train for the speed disciplines.

I'm well aware of what is required in an alpine skier.

So you are criticising her for entering a race that she has the ability to participate in rather than one she doesn't?

In that case all the skaters are crap for not entering bobsleigh events and the skiers are rubbish because they aren't entered for the curling.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

As I said, today's news pretty well sums up the ski world's thoughts on the whole thing. 'The Telegraph' puts it very well..

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By *ittle_brat_evie!!Woman over a year ago

evesham

"As I said, today's news pretty well sums up the ski world's thoughts on the whole thing. 'The Telegraph' puts it very well.."

What did they say?

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

So much Venom over someone sliding down a Mountain on two lumps of wood..

Its just a Game

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By *ee VianteWoman over a year ago

Somewhere in North Norfolk

"As I said, today's news pretty well sums up the ski world's thoughts on the whole thing. 'The Telegraph' puts it very well.."

Some of the public, who enjoy the Olympics, seem to support her.

The sports world is not the be all and end all in international sporting events such as the Olympics. In fact I'd say it's as much, if not more, for us non-elite, ordinary folk.

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By (user no longer on site) OP over a year ago

"well, she is arguably the 67th best in the world, so seeings as thats a population of what?? 7 billion (as of 2010) then she isnt doing too badly for an amateur.

anyone else that thinks they are better than she are obviously welcome to do the trials for the next skiing events."

You will find she is ranked about 2313 in the FIS World Ranking but I may be wrong

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Well its done now...does it or did it really ever matter???

I get what ur saying OP, u dont think she should have been entered....ok..ok...ok.

but theres really no need to continually give "you dont know my level of expertise" comments without backing them up...

its a bit like me slagging off Van Gogh, but not letting anyone see my work....

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"As I said, today's news pretty well sums up the ski world's thoughts on the whole thing. 'The Telegraph' puts it very well..

What did they say?"

Pretty much on the same vein as Billy.

Ski racing is a very small group at the level we're talking about. As I said, he might as well just post his name and address here than go into detail about why he knows what he's talking about.

The race is over, the verdict is made. Move on , everybody.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

To sum this thread up.

Mediocre has been jealous of celebrity getting the limelight.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"To sum this thread up.

Mediocre has been jealous of celebrity getting the limelight. "

Has been? Or never was?

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"well, she is arguably the 67th best in the world, so seeings as thats a population of what?? 7 billion (as of 2010) then she isnt doing too badly for an amateur.

anyone else that thinks they are better than she are obviously welcome to do the trials for the next skiing events.

You will find she is ranked about 2313 in the FIS World Ranking but I may be wrong

still, 2313th best skier out of a 7 billion population.

tries skiing once.

couldnt do it

that was on a dry slope

nothing but admiration for her

your just bitter

bring forward the

you know nothing about skiing

im just bloody great

i was professional

unless your alberto tomba in disguise, not interested as its all just puff and bluster as you will never back up your empty argument

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Pointlessthreads.com

I.e i'm bored so I will spout a load of guff about someone I will never have any contact with nor will she ever have any comeback re the matter......

Envy is a bitter trait.......

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Just read the torygraph article, disgruntled journalist attempted to trash celebrity skier.

An accurate report woul be that she finished 67th out of 90 competitors.

Did well enough to make to top 30 for the final run

And what has been omitted from the OP'a post is that she had to compete in FIS competitions to earn enough points to qualify and not just sashay up on the day.

How many FIS points has the OP earned over the years?

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Just read the torygraph article, disgruntled journalist attempted to trash celebrity skier.

An accurate report woul be that she finished 67th out of 90 competitors.

Did well enough to make to top 30 for the final run

And what has been omitted from the OP'a post is that she had to compete in FIS competitions to earn enough points to qualify and not just sashay up on the day.

How many FIS points has the OP earned over the years?"

cant tell you.

siing is a small world and if he tells you how many points he has ever mustered, then you will know his family history

his dogs name

how much he earns a year

his mothers maiden name

and all his bank details, to enable you to pass them on to that nigerian prince you are in touch with

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Just read the torygraph article, disgruntled journalist attempted to trash celebrity skier."

Jings, reading the articles online from The Telegraph, the Independent, ABC, Sky Sport just a few....there are an awful lot of people who seem to be slating her. Add into that fellow Olympians past and present, World Cup racers and commentators on television and that amounts to lot of very competent race skiers all thinking the same. Envy is nothing to do with any of this lol.

She finished because she wasn't competing- that's the whole point of this. The people who fell, WERE and went out because of the speed they were going at.

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By *ee VianteWoman over a year ago

Somewhere in North Norfolk

Elitism. She's not lived and breathed the sport and she's not one of us. Simple elitism.

Those people who are too wonderful to be jealous should have better things to do, quite frankly.

Slagging someone off to show how much better you are is common enough but it's never a good look.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

She qualified to be there by competing in skiing events. She reached the qualifying standard therefore she was there on merit. She was the last one down in conditions that changed from snowing at the top, fog in the middle of the course and rain at the bottom. She wasn't going to win a medal so what did she have to gain from knocking herself out on the way down? Answer nothing.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Ok she hasnt been at it as long as me,Hasnt trained night n day for 34 years to become a Certified Sex addict like what i ave but i would still do her and respect her in the morning..ish

Billybigballs

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By *ee VianteWoman over a year ago

Somewhere in North Norfolk

Maybe those that fell didn't know their limits whereas she did.

A self professed expert predicted earlier she'd be a DNF. She finished and she's now getting criticised for that.

She qualified, she skied, she finished. Good for her.

Leave her alone already.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Ok she hasnt been at it as long as me,Hasnt trained night n day for 34 years to become a Certified Sex addict like what i ave but i would still do her and respect her in the morning..ish

Billybigballs

element of truth in it.

certainly no one that has castigated her on this thread would turn down a blowy off her, even though her formative years and those through her 'investigating' years, were spent learning her trade as a musician, so she wouldnt be as learned as those that spent years perfecting their technique lol

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

The reason so many people in the skiing world are so vitriolic about this is that it devalues the Games, what they have trained and struggled with for years and their overwhelming urge to compete to the best of their ability and win. That's the whole point.

Most people here seem to have been so myopic they haven't seen the bigger picture. It's not about envy, racism, elitism, it's about being able to qualify by skill, not on a quirk of a country's registration in the games and six months' training. It's about mutterings of rules being bent for wealth and kudos but places being lost forever for future competitors of this country. It's about being supported in the process of competing- with the same rules for all.

I love the enthusiastic amateur but this is not about that. It's about wealth and position allowing a poor competitor to compete in what is supposed to be the world class premier top event (tho second to the World Cup).

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By *icecouple561Couple over a year ago
Forum Mod

East Sussex

so having read some of this are the Olympics only for the competitors and what they think should happen? They aren't supposed to be for the spectators at all?

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"The reason so many people in the skiing world are so vitriolic about this is that it devalues the Games, what they have trained and struggled with for years and their overwhelming urge to compete to the best of their ability and win. That's the whole point.

hang on.

i dont remember such vitriol being laid at the door of eric dusumbale, or whatever his name was, the lad from an african country that had only been swimming for 6 months

or the hawaiin shot putter that hadnt qualified for his event, so instead decided he would do the 100 metres

so, are the winter olympics solely for the elite and not for the plucky?

if so, i will stop watching now as i would rather watch those that try hard and fail, than those that expect to be right at the top.

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By *icecouple561Couple over a year ago
Forum Mod

East Sussex

hang on.

i dont remember such vitriol being laid at the door of eric dusumbale, or whatever his name was, the lad from an african country that had only been swimming for 6 months

or the hawaiin shot putter that hadnt qualified for his event, so instead decided he would do the 100 metres

so, are the winter olympics solely for the elite and not for the plucky?

if so, i will stop watching now as i would rather watch those that try hard and fail, than those that expect to be right at the top."

from what I can gather the winter olympics are purely for the sportsmen and women.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

And yet they still fell over and she didnt, who would have thought ?

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

and, to take the argument further, and obviously then bring it closer to home for the OP and indeed his cheering quarter.

should Scotland not be allowed to bother trying to qualify for the world cup and european championships, as they never manage it, just plucky triers that go up against the big boys and maybe get a lucky result every now and then?

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

What is the old saying? "It's not the winning, etc, etc"? She met the qualification criteria, and she competed. Where she finished is of little consequence.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"and, to take the argument further, and obviously then bring it closer to home for the OP and indeed his cheering quarter.

Into the Bomb shelter we go

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By *ee VianteWoman over a year ago

Somewhere in North Norfolk

She qualified. She didn't just waltz up and demand to play.

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By *ittle_brat_evie!!Woman over a year ago

evesham

She reached the qualifying criteria set out by the international Olympic committee. Where is the problem?

I read on the BBC website today that the winner of the giant slalom actually thought it was great that Vanessa was skiing at sotchi. If she had no problem with it why should you? Were you a hopeful?

Surely anyone associated with the sport would welcome a bit of international advertising of it. It's not exactly a well represented sport in the grand scheme of things is it.

And on the point of not being up there......where were the British contingent???

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By *ittle_brat_evie!!Woman over a year ago

evesham

"Just read the torygraph article, disgruntled journalist attempted to trash celebrity skier.

She finished because she wasn't competing- that's the whole point of this. The people who fell, WERE and went out because of the speed they were going at. "

Then they are shoi at racing then. You don't go hell for leather regardless of the conditions. You race to the conditions and your abilities. Just like a certain violinist did and managed to get to the bottom. You are only as good as your last race and she was better than a fair few 'experienced' racers in that she got to the bottom and got a time.

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By *ecor atorMan over a year ago

York

She didn't very well,

On bright note- I'm told that her sort have jet black straight pubes and their Cloppers are horizontally mounted like a letterbox. Need a go on one!

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By *iewMan over a year ago
Forum Mod

Angus & Findhorn

what a kafuffle

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"and, to take the argument further, and obviously then bring it closer to home for the OP and indeed his cheering quarter.

The World Cup with reference to skiing is the pinnacle of the racing world.

And if Scotland doesn't qualfy for that other world cup, maybe we should instigate the 'can ye kick a ba' rule and qualify that way. You'd surely all support that now

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

She reached the qualifying criteria set out by the international Olympic committee. Where is the problem?

I read on the BBC website today that the winner of the giant slalom actually thought it was great that Vanessa was skiing at sotchi. If she had no problem with it why should you? Were you a hopeful?

Surely anyone associated with the sport would welcome a bit of international advertising of it. It's not exactly a well represented sport in the grand scheme of things is it.

And on the point of not being up there......where were the British contingent??? "

Grrrr it's what I've been saying all along.....we handed back the places!!!! There were (Scottish) racers who could have qualified and there was a huge row about it.

I'm not that interested in someone who isn't in the games to compete- it didn't take great skill to ski that slowly down a course but she had fun so fair play to her.

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By *ittle_brat_evie!!Woman over a year ago

evesham

She reached the qualifying criteria set out by the international Olympic committee. Where is the problem?

I read on the BBC website today that the winner of the giant slalom actually thought it was great that Vanessa was skiing at sotchi. If she had no problem with it why should you? Were you a hopeful?

Surely anyone associated with the sport would welcome a bit of international advertising of it. It's not exactly a well represented sport in the grand scheme of things is it.

And on the point of not being up there......where were the British contingent???

Grrrr it's what I've been saying all along.....we handed back the places!!!! There were (Scottish) racers who could have qualified and there was a huge row about it.

I'm not that interested in someone who isn't in the games to compete- it didn't take great skill to ski that slowly down a course but she had fun so fair play to her. "

So we had no one to fill the spaces we were allocated because the BOA have set more strict qualifying criteria than the international Olympic committee set and so handed back the unused places so other countries could enter or are you saying we were ordered to hand the places back in spite of us having eligible people to field?

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"and, to take the argument further, and obviously then bring it closer to home for the OP and indeed his cheering quarter.

The World Cup with reference to skiing is the pinnacle of the racing world.

And if Scotland doesn't qualfy for that other world cup, maybe we should instigate the 'can ye kick a ba' rule and qualify that way. You'd surely all support that now

what, do you mean just advertise in the local paper for anyone that can kick a ball and use them?

well, you couldnt do any worse now.

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By *ee VianteWoman over a year ago

Somewhere in North Norfolk

She reached the qualifying criteria set out by the international Olympic committee. Where is the problem?

I read on the BBC website today that the winner of the giant slalom actually thought it was great that Vanessa was skiing at sotchi. If she had no problem with it why should you? Were you a hopeful?

Surely anyone associated with the sport would welcome a bit of international advertising of it. It's not exactly a well represented sport in the grand scheme of things is it.

And on the point of not being up there......where were the British contingent???

Grrrr it's what I've been saying all along.....we handed back the places!!!! There were (Scottish) racers who could have qualified and there was a huge row about it.

I'm not that interested in someone who isn't in the games to compete- it didn't take great skill to ski that slowly down a course but she had fun so fair play to her. "

Yes, it's very apparent that you aren't that interested in her

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Oh yeah, cos she came last while playing with her fiddle on her way down..

I'm still thinking sexually

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By *ymph and ManicCouple over a year ago

North East

She may be a crap winter olympian ... but eminently well fckable ... lol ... guarantee she sweat more having sex than on a downhill run ...

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By (user no longer on site) OP over a year ago

Thank god the World Cup continues after the games where real racers compete with fans who understand and love the sport!!!

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By *ittle_brat_evie!!Woman over a year ago

evesham

"Thank god the World Cup continues after the games where real racers compete with fans who understand and love the sport!!!"

and skiing disappears into the fug of millions of peoples consciousness.

Its a shame that true 'fans' of the sport can't celebrate people embracing the love of it.

Maybe you can answer the question regarding the places we gave back.

did we give them back because we were told we had to in spite of having eligible people to field or did the BOA's additional selection criteria mean that the places were going begging anyway?

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By *oe_Steve_NWestCouple over a year ago

Bolton

"so Billie why aren't you over there in Russia then?

Retired from the Professional Ski world years ago

Just got this far so far! Classic - pure classic! Z

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By *oe_Steve_NWestCouple over a year ago

Bolton

"Thank god the World Cup continues after the games where real racers compete with fans who understand and love the sport!!!"

Thank God indeed! Z

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Like I said, the BOC handed back places despite having people of qualifying ability. There was a huge row about it.

It's likely we will struggle to get those places back again which makes it even harder for those training for next OG, with fewer places to fill.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"so Billie why aren't you over there in Russia then?

Retired from the Professional Ski world years ago

Just got this far so far! Classic - pure classic! Z"

Classic because.....?

The level of personal attack on this post has been a disgrace and a lot of people should be thoroughly ashamed of themselves for their pack mentality.

By all means debate, heatedly disagree with a point- that's the beef to the bones of a debate but personal attacks are childish, cowardly and without warrant.

Billy has stayed away from this thread with good reason but the posts he made about his ability, knowledge of the top class ski world and involvement with World Cup racing have been factual. Disagree with his points by all means but no-one has the right to insinuate that his posts are lies.

Hopefully, by the morning this thread will be full but let us hope that the next thread to provoke a debate does JUST THAT and doesn't descend into mob attack by keyboard warriors.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

So glad I prefer snowboarding

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By *ee VianteWoman over a year ago

Somewhere in North Norfolk

It's not a "pack mentality" just because a number of people happen to agree with each other and disagree with you

Nobody is being lead here. We all have our own minds and our own opinions.

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By *ittle_brat_evie!!Woman over a year ago

evesham

"Like I said, the BOC handed back places despite having people of qualifying ability. There was a huge row about it.

It's likely we will struggle to get those places back again which makes it even harder for those training for next OG, with fewer places to fill."

We'll then your issue is with the BOC willingly giving back places, not with Vanessa Mae for qualifying to get a place. If we'd have kept our places she would have still qualified.

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By *ittle_brat_evie!!Woman over a year ago

evesham

"so Billie why aren't you over there in Russia then?

Retired from the Professional Ski world years ago

Just got this far so far! Classic - pure classic! Z

Classic because.....?

The level of personal attack on this post has been a disgrace and a lot of people should be thoroughly ashamed of themselves for their pack mentality.

By all means debate, heatedly disagree with a point- that's the beef to the bones of a debate but personal attacks are childish, cowardly and without warrant.

Hopefully, by the morning this thread will be full but let us hope that the next thread to provoke a debate does JUST THAT and doesn't descend into mob attack by keyboard warriors.

If people don't want their 'credentials' questioned then they should stop throwing them in peoples faces to try and start an argument.

As for 'pack mentality'......please! Just because most of the posters on here fail to see yours or Billy's issue with Vanessa Mae qualifying doesn't mean we act in a pack, it means we are able to look at the facts of a story and draw the same conclusion.

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By *nnyMan over a year ago

Glasgow

"so having read some of this are the Olympics only for the competitors and what they think should happen? They aren't supposed to be for the spectators at all?"

You forgot the sponsors.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

How do folks feel about Lawrence Okoye? He hardly dedicated his life to his Olympic sport either...bloody fine athlete though.

If Ms Mae qualified through normal channels (from what I've read of this thread she had), meeting the criteria...then, more power to her.

Granted, not all of us get such opportunities...it doesn't mean that those who do should turn them down.

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By *uke olovingmanMan over a year ago

Gravesend

has she been yet . .. how did she get on

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

She stayed upright n didnt come last, Better than some of the so called best

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