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"Read that he is openly talking about possible coalition with Labour at next years general election what a snug two faced twat. If labour do get more votes than tories which personally i hope for but if coalition is needed they should and i think will insist on clegg not being involved. All politicians are liars to one degree or other but this bloke screwed students initially and others along the way and if not booted by liberals they will be decimated at election." I think you have the wrong idea on what's 2 faced. He is being totally honest about keeping an open view saying his party can choose what to do after an election which benefits the people who support his party best. Politics are not that hard to understand are they? | |||
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"I think hes rather Cute. Hannibal Lector
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"What if UKIP are successful? who knows whats around the corner, people are fed up with the timewasters called MP's." Ukip seriously one policy party no chance at election more to life than just one issue. | |||
"Read that he is openly talking about possible coalition with Labour at next years general election what a snug two faced twat. If labour do get more votes than tories which personally i hope for but if coalition is needed they should and i think will insist on clegg not being involved. All politicians are liars to one degree or other but this bloke screwed students initially and others along the way and if not booted by liberals they will be decimated at election. I think you have the wrong idea on what's 2 faced. He is being totally honest about keeping an open view saying his party can choose what to do after an election which benefits the people who support his party best. Politics are not that hard to understand are they?" Let me clarify as clearly not read it properly. Two faced as in getting votes on back of students he was standing up for then immediately trebling tuition fees. Simples. | |||
"Read that he is openly talking about possible coalition with Labour at next years general election what a snug two faced twat. If labour do get more votes than tories which personally i hope for but if coalition is needed they should and i think will insist on clegg not being involved. All politicians are liars to one degree or other but this bloke screwed students initially and others along the way and if not booted by liberals they will be decimated at election. I think you have the wrong idea on what's 2 faced. He is being totally honest about keeping an open view saying his party can choose what to do after an election which benefits the people who support his party best. Politics are not that hard to understand are they? Let me clarify as clearly not read it properly. Two faced as in getting votes on back of students he was standing up for then immediately trebling tuition fees. Simples." Amongst other things... | |||
"I wouldn't use him to wipe my arse on "The chances of the Liberal Party achieving anything in the next election are minimal; they just love being 'in power'; not least because of their back-pedalling on their promise on tuition fees. They also lost the May 2011referendum on the Alternative Vote with 'First Past the Post' being chosen by two-thirds of voters. At the same time they lost control of Sheffield council, the city of Clegg's constituency, and were ousted from Liverpool, Hull and Stockport, and lost every Manchester seat they stood in; overall, they got their lowest share of the vote in three decades. In the council elections on 3 May 2012, the Liberal Democrats lost more than three hundred councillors, leaving them with fewer than three thousand for the first time in the party's history. Chris Huhne; disgraced. Danny Alexander, aged 16 1/2 Cleggy; ineffectual, waffles, appears to have had one job, other than politics, working as a journalist for the FT and yet he is reported to be worth more than £2 million; probably because he doesn't have to pay for everything, like the rest of us. Cable on Radio 4 telling us how excited he was at finding that he had an official car following him as he walked from The House to Downing Street; I had a really unpleasant thought that he probably had a semi when he was explaining it all. I Heard that the Liberal Democrats demanded a recount at the recent Wythenshawe by election (ex Paul Goggins) as Mary Di Mauro lost her deposit with only 1,176 votes. Tank Girl | |||
"I wouldn't use him to wipe my arse on
The chances of the Liberal Party achieving anything in the next election are minimal; they just love being 'in power'; not least because of their back-pedalling on their promise on tuition fees.
They also lost the May 2011referendum on the Alternative Vote with 'First Past the Post' being chosen by two-thirds of voters. At the same time they lost control of Sheffield council, the city of Clegg's constituency, and were ousted from Liverpool, Hull and Stockport, and lost every Manchester seat they stood in; overall, they got their lowest share of the vote in three decades.
In the council elections on 3 May 2012, the Liberal Democrats lost more than three hundred councillors, leaving them with fewer than three thousand for the first time in the party's history.
Chris Huhne; disgraced.
Danny Alexander, aged 16 1/2
Cleggy; ineffectual, waffles, appears to have had one job, other than politics, working as a journalist for the FT and yet he is reported to be worth more than £2 million; probably because he doesn't have to pay for everything, like the rest of us.
Cable on Radio 4 telling us how excited he was at finding that he had an official car following him as he walked from The House to Downing Street; I had a really unpleasant thought that he probably had a semi when he was explaining it all.
I Heard that the Liberal Democrats demanded a recount at the recent Wythenshawe by election (ex Paul Goggins) as Mary Di Mauro lost her deposit with only 1,176 votes.
Tank Girl
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Can you do one about that plonka Ed Davey as we'll please | |||
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"I wouldn't use him to wipe my arse on ".. i would and i would fold wipe then scrunch and Wang him down the loo. x X X | |||
"Right so let me ask a question I'm not very politically aware, Lets say it's a hung parliament again can any 2 parties form a coalition to create a government? Or has it to be the one that won most seats and then another party? Also what is to stop a party forming a coalition government with ukip if they do better than the lib dems come election time?" It's first past the post. Any two may form a majority. | |||
"Right so let me ask a question I'm not very politically aware, Lets say it's a hung parliament again can any 2 parties form a coalition to create a government? Or has it to be the one that won most seats and then another party? Also what is to stop a party forming a coalition government with ukip if they do better than the lib dems come election time? It's first past the post. Any two may form a majority. " So if lib dems and ukip come 3rd and 4th they could form a government as long as there seats equals a majority? | |||
" It's first past the post. Any two may form a majority. So if lib dems and ukip come 3rd and 4th they could form a government as long as there seats equals a majority?" a coalition can be any number of parties to form a majority, inherent difficulties within that though.. the thought of UKIP having any part in Government is frightening, it will not happen as they wont get enough seats.. | |||
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Can you do one about that plonka Ed Davey as we'll please "Not heard of Edward Jonathan Davey? You are forgiven. This fellow may be a Right Honourable Member of Parliament, a multiple-red-box wallah, a fellow with a grand private office, spin doctors and attendant lackeys. He may be Secretary of State for Energy and Climate Change; a job so important that it comes with its own fuel-guzzling, ozone layer-torpedoing limousine, but he has a public profile as low as a limbo dancer. Comrade Davey, aged 48, shines as dimly as an eco-friendly light bulb, how appropriate for a climate-change enthusiast. A dullard, a plodder, and a Cabinet minister by default. Unexceptional, middle-of-the-road, one of life’s followers, that’s Davey. In Parliament, when he speaks, political sketchwriters lay down their pencils and fold their arms for a snooze, so confident are they that nothing remarkable will be said. He is not so much an orator as a platitudes-by-the-yard man. One of the ways the sketchwriters pass the time during a Davey speech is to play Cliche Bingo. They get a point each time he says ‘challenge’ or ‘proactive’ or ‘empower’. And yet, more by accident than merit, this over-diluted glass of Ribena, this wholesale accepter of received wisdoms, finds himself in one of the hottest Whitehall departments. This week, he used that bully pulpit to make an indignant, bad-tempered little speech that insulted the intelligence of people who just happen to disagree with him. He mounted a distinctly illiberal, hyperbolic attack on climate-change sceptics, calling them ‘wilfully ignorant, head-in-the-sand nimbys’ who were driven by ‘europhobia’. He waved aside considered and thoughtful doubts about the climate-change industry as ‘diabolical'. Quite a word, isn’t it? It means Satanic, akin to devils, on a par with Lucifer; just for being sceptical about the shite that's being shoveled down our throats to justify our 'green' policies and the need for reduced carbon emissions when the Chinese are planning on building another 363? Along the way, he pretty much attributed the current bad weather to man-made global warming. To stuff so much nonsense into one small speech was quite a feat. So who is this leviathan, this seer, this genetic composite of Michael Fish, Jacques Delors and Mr Pooter? Edward became an MP in the Centre-Left landslide of 1997, defeating sometime Tory minister Richard Tracey by just 56 votes. Before entering Parliament he had worked at a Pork Farms Pork pie factory, Boots and as a holiday representative in Spain; I bet he was full of fun. He was also, apparently, a management consultant, maybe selling sandwiches and eye shadow in Boots counts, but it was apparently for Omega Partners who specialised in postal services, and as an adviser to Liberal Democrat MPs. Although clearly ambitious, and in those days something of a pin-up, Davey was one of the less scintillating members of Paddy Ashdown’s band of desperadoes. Some of the Lib Dems had a raffish individuality about them. They were unpredictable. They were independent-minded. But those qualities were never much evident in Edward. He was a party loyalist and his Commons interventions blew long with slogans and soundbites. Over 16 long years of listening to Quentin Letts, of the Daily Mail ( the primary source of much of this material) said 'I don’t think I have ever detected a scintilla of originality in any phrase or conclusion. He is about as radical as a mid-range Ford Focus'. He was quickly rewarded for such dullness with a frontbench brief on the Treasury. Our greatest ever Prime Minister, second only to Anthony Blair, Gordon Brown was Chancellor at the time. Dear old Gordon would squint across the House at this pipsqueak Davey and you could see him thinking: ‘I’ll tae that wee sprat for mah high tea!’ Which he duly did. Tory frontbenchers valiantly hurled themselves against the New Labour battlements, pointing out that Mr Brown was on a mad spending spree. They had no chance of altering the Government’s course but the Tories at least followed their principles and, as it happens, spoke the truth. Edward Davey aka Mr Mute, supported the status quo. He always does. At Westminster, as everywhere else, the status quo blokes tend to do well. Mr Davey kept being promoted; Charles Kennedy gave him the education beat. Menzies Campbell made him his Chief of Staff. Nick Clegg promoted him, yet again, to foreign affairs; he, like Cleggy, is, naturally, wildly enthusiastic about Europe. Davey was like the girl in the Seventies Television adverts for Nimble bread; he was flying like a bird, rising and rising on thermals of consensus. Given his ‘back story’, it is all rather disappointing, for his life outside politics has had its unexpected, indeed inspiring moments. Born to a solicitor in the Mansfield, a town so depressing that the organ grinder with the monkey will be the highlight of your visit. His father died when he was four and his mother when he was fifteen but he made the most of his private education to take a first-class degree in economics at Oxford. As already mentioned he worked in a pork-pie factory (hence, says a Lib Dem colleague cruelly, his chunky waistline). Again, good for him. But having actually done a proper job, at least for a while, you might expect him to have acquired some more robustly common-sensical views. As a young man he also risked his life to save a woman from some rail tracks and was duly rewarded with recognition by the Royal Humane Society. This is all good stuff. So why on earth is he such a crashing bore politically? He subscribes to the Left’s big-state orthodoxy, to the Government-knows-best creed that has infected so much of our political class. In 2010 the Lib Dems went into Government for the first time since Lloyd George. Had Edward been a Conservative he would have been fortunate to become even a ministerial bag-carrier, but because he was a Lib Dem, and a Lib Dem, furthermore, who did not have flat feet, a wall eye or a mad hairdo, he was made a minister. He was given a middle-ranking job under Vince Cable at the Department of Business. He was minister for Post Offices; Minister for stamps. There he probably would have stayed until being returned to the backbenchers, had it not been for Chris Huhne’s little local difficulty. When Mr Huhne went to prison for perverting the course of justice, Nick Clegg looked around in desperation and gave his job to Edward (energy having been designated a Lib Dem portfolio). Little was either of them to know that Ed Miliband was about to make a big play with energy prices, making this a frontline department. Of course, one reason energy prices were so high was that they had been saddled with green taxes under a previous Energy Secretary - the self-same Miliband. Rather than make political hay with this, as he could have done, Edward wimped out and insisted that the green policies must remain in place. Who pays most for green taxes? The working poor. Rather than question those policies, Edward continues to trot out the mantra that we should regard it as a privilege to be paying so much more to keep the lights on. Lucky us to face such price hikes. And now, playing to form, he uses the bad weather to bang the highly questionable drum for climate-change prevention and all the bureaucratic and fiscal burdens it brings. Even more typically, climate change is produced as an argument to justify the great mothership itself; the European Union. We keep being told the floods are unprecedented. Not true. They happened like this in the 17th century, when 2,000 poor souls died. No one spoke then about man-made climate change. Scepticism was once regarded as an essential quality in any civilised and, yes, truly liberal society. Scepticism tests the orthodox. All the great thinkers, from Socrates to Einstein, from Galileo to Marie Curie, were in their own way sceptics. Scepticism challenges the old ways and that leads to progress and the truth. But now scepticism is ‘diabolical’. Ed Davey has declared it to be so. If you dare to disagree with him, you must be the spawn of Satan, and remember that sceptics, in the Middle Ages, were often burned at the stake. Expenses: Office of climate change secretary Ed Davey has secret company ‘Berrylands Printers’ is owned by his wife and office manager Legislation affecting election printing published this week Cabinet minister Ed Davey has a secret printing company operating from his constituency office, Political Scrapbook can reveal. Electoral filings obtained by this blog suggest that the vehicle may have been used to hide the true cost of election expenses in what would constitute a breach of electoral law. The news comes as the government prepares to publish its lobbying and third party funding bill, which it is expected to place restrictions on political funding and ‘donations in kind’ — including printing costs. Berryland Printers Ltd, which is based within Ed Davey’s constituency office in south west London (above) provides services exclusively to Liberal Democrats. Established in 2011, the company is owned by the climate change secretary’s wife, Emily Davey, and his office manager, Elizabeth Mayes-Reid, while the president of the local party is listed as a director. With existing electoral laws placing strict limits on spending, services provided at a discount of more than 10% from market rates must recorded as ‘notional expenditure’ — which counts towards spending caps. But analysis of spending returns (full PDF) for a recent by-election — spun as a show of Lib Dem resilience in the media – show that the company operating from Davey’s office offered the local party discounts of up to 85% on those provided by commercial firms. 4,500 A3 copies of a leaflet were billed at £122.30, a discount of over £400 on quotes sourced by this blog; while 4,200 blue C6 envelopes were itemised at £30 — around £170 less expensive than the cheapest quote Scrapbook could find online. Lib Dem agent Derek Osbourne — who quit as the local council leader after his arrest on child porn allegations last month – told the Electoral Commission that the notional spending for the by-election was £35.10. The office of cabinet minister Ed Davey has been referred to the Metropolitan Police over election expenses, Political Scrapbook understands. The complaint from Labour backbencher Thomas Docherty, relates to concerns – first raised on this blog last week – about arrangements in Davey’s office, which he shares with Kingston Liberal Democrats and a secret printing company which does not advertise to the public. With election laws placing strict limits on campaign spending, the letter to New Scotland Yard sets out how an invoice with arbitrary pricing of election literature may have been used to game expenses limits for a by-election in February. The problem for Davey is that Berrylands Printers Ltd is run from his office by, errr, his wife ( Emily is a housing lawyer, specialising in anti-social behaviour and her father was Head of the Law Commission), parliamentary aide and the president of the local Lib Dems. The news comes on the day the local party are fighting another by-election — caused by the resignation of council leader Derek Osbourne after a child porn arrest. As the legal election agent for the contest with the dubious invoice, Kingston Lib Dems will be queuing up to use Osbourne as a human shield over any breaches. But as Docherty’s complaint sets out, arrangements in Davey’s office may also implicate the managers of the printing company, who set the low prices on the invoice submitted to the Electoral Commission. Kingston Liberal Democrats also failed to account for staff spending — which was claimed to be zero despite a £24,000 per-year professional organiser boasting of how she “managed” the campaign. Davey’s office arrangements sits somewhat awkwardly with the Nick Clegg’s professed motivations for new laws covering election spending: “The Government has decided to proceed with sensible and necessary improvements to the controls on third parties which campaign at general elections to ensure that they are fully transparent and not allowed to distort the political process.” With a police investigation looming over Kingston Liberal Democrats, celebrations at this evening’s likely by-election victory may be decidedly mute. Scrapbook’s coverage of the arrangements in Ed Davey’s office has certainly set the fox loose in the Lib Dem chicken coop, with campaign organisers descending on the comments in what looks suspiciously like a rebuttal operation co-ordinated from Great George Street. While agents boasted of the cheap printing deals used to saturate letterboxes with unsolicited material, they seem less willing to discuss detail — like how it was possible for Davey’s operation to source (pricey) coloured envelopes for 0.7 pence each. Another bone of contention is the near-institutionalised role of ’printing societies’ in Liberal Democrat campaigning. Despite being run by local party officials solely for campaigning purposes they are deliberately kept at arm’s length in order that they are not subject to the same reporting and transparency standards as local parties. This sits somewhat awkwardly with Nick Clegg’s ministerial statement on new legislation which was published yesterday: “The Government has decided to proceed with sensible and necessary improvements to the controls on third parties which campaign at general elections to ensure that they are fully transparent and not allowed to distort the political process.” And despite running a whole blog dedicated to election law, prominent Lib Dem figures seem loathe to discuss whether printing societies should be regulated “Third Parties” under the PPERA Act — meaning they would be subject to the same standards of transparency as everyone else. The Electoral Commission demands that any organisation spending more than £10,000 on campaigning in the year before a general election is supposed to register as a Third Party. So why shouldn’t this apply to printing societies whose raison d’etre is such activity? Section 75 of the Representation of the People Act also places limits on spending in local elections by non-party actors. It’s getting very messy. The worms are going everywhere and it’s Nick Clegg holding the tin opener. From Edward himself; As for likes – a great breakfast for me could be freshly ground coffee and figs with honeyed greek yogurt, my eclectic music taste ranges from Coldplay to Genesis, via Gregorian Chant and the Soweto String Quartet while I can happily watch repeat after repeat of Monty Python, the West Wing and When the Boat Comes In. Plus my cats, Molly and Max. Overall you can see I won’t ever pass off as “trendy”!  | |||
But bravo to the insight into Ed. Yes our solicitor went to school with him, but he summed him up slightly differently and rather more briefly than you. Apparently he was an utter pillac 
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A wilfully ignorant, head-in-the-sand nimby who is driven by ‘europhobia’.  | |||
But to my way of thinking, there is a new name to add to a list, Judas Iscariot, Benedict Arnold, vidkun quisling, and now nick Clegg. After his lack of performance just after the election in not helpiy a major company in his constituency, forgemasters, plus the tuition fees business which have put two of my children in debt, while totally discourageing another from higher education, he can rot as far as I'm concerned. I might add that its not the rise in fees I personally object to, rather the cynical ploy of swearing in writing, not to put them up, and getting all the libdem MPs to do the same.
Personally, I'm voting ukip. I have no faith in the main 3, yet do not subscribe to the Russell brand scoop of thought. And if someone wants to make something of a cross dressing ukip supporter, then let them, I don't care. | |||
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"Just read what I posted, and it should be don't quote the last post but one, but I wasn't quick enough lol. Plus auto correction always lurks round the corner, waiting to surprise me when I'm not looking. " I sneaked one in to make you look daft | |||
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"Right so let me ask a question I'm not very politically aware, Lets say it's a hung parliament again can any 2 parties form a coalition to create a government? Or has it to be the one that won most seats and then another party? Also what is to stop a party forming a coalition government with ukip if they do better than the lib dems come election time?" The answer is simple maths. There are 650 seats in parliament, so any one, two, or even three party's could get together and form a government as long as they can get 326 seats for a majority. As for Clegg and the Lib Dems? He is a rat of the highest order and I wouldn't trust him as far as I could throw him. He and his party will be decimated (if not wiped out) at the next election. Not only did he rat on tuition fees he also ratted on parliamentary reform and boundary changes which would have reduced the number of MP's to 600. It was his part of the PR referendum deal and as soon as he lost it he cocked on his part of the bargain. I'm no lover of the Labour party but at least you know where you stand (sometimes anyway) with them, but Clegg and his party of chancers are just the lowest of the low. | |||
"Read that he is openly talking about possible coalition with Labour at next years general election what a snug two faced twat. If labour do get more votes than tories which personally i hope for but if coalition is needed they should and i think will insist on clegg not being involved. All politicians are liars to one degree or other but this bloke screwed students initially and others along the way and if not booted by liberals they will be decimated at election." tories are openly talking of a union with Ukip, so how does one make it better than the other? | |||
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But to my way of thinking, there is a new name to add to a list, Judas Iscariot, Benedict Arnold, vidkun quisling, and now nick Clegg. After his lack of performance just after the election in not helpiy a major company in his constituency, forgemasters, plus the tuition fees business which have put two of my children in debt, while totally discourageing another from higher education, he can rot as far as I'm concerned. I might add that its not the rise in fees I personally object to, rather the cynical ploy of swearing in writing, not to put them up, and getting all the libdem MPs to do the same.
Personally, I'm voting ukip. I have no faith in the main 3, yet do not subscribe to the Russell brand scoop of thought. And if someone wants to make something of a cross dressing ukip supporter, then let them, I don't care."
But for Gods sake don't let the Daily mail find out | |||
"Read that he is openly talking about possible coalition with Labour at next years general election what a snug two faced twat. If labour do get more votes than tories which personally i hope for but if coalition is needed they should and i think will insist on clegg not being involved. All politicians are liars to one degree or other but this bloke screwed students initially and others along the way and if not booted by liberals they will be decimated at election. tories are openly talking of a union with Ukip, so how does one make it better than the other?" The Tories can talk about it as much as they like, but with Cameron in charge Farage will never do a deal. | |||
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"AT least it proves coalition governments do not work. They just water down government policies, be they right or wrong for the country." Despite the fact it seems the LibDems have done **** all to hold back the careering nastiness of the Tories, I shudder to think how bad an unfettered Tory majority would have been for the most vulnerable in society. As far as we are concerned all 3 main parties are a dead loss. UKIP are a no-no, so it rather leaves Greens. | |||
"AT least it proves coalition governments do not work. They just water down government policies, be they right or wrong for the country. Despite the fact it seems the LibDems have done **** all to hold back the careering nastiness of the Tories, I shudder to think how bad an unfettered Tory majority would have been for the most vulnerable in society. As far as we are concerned all 3 main parties are a dead loss. UKIP are a no-no, so it rather leaves Greens." who will have us back to the pony and trap and taxed for worthless green energy projects, so you will have even less money in your pocket. yep, lets vote for them lol | |||
"AT least it proves coalition governments do not work. They just water down government policies, be they right or wrong for the country. Despite the fact it seems the LibDems have done **** all to hold back the careering nastiness of the Tories, I shudder to think how bad an unfettered Tory majority would have been for the most vulnerable in society. As far as we are concerned all 3 main parties are a dead loss. UKIP are a no-no, so it rather leaves Greens. who will have us back to the pony and trap and taxed for worthless green energy projects, so you will have even less money in your pocket. yep, lets vote for them lol"
And in Germany want to legalise incest | |||
"AT least it proves coalition governments do not work. They just water down government policies, be they right or wrong for the country. Despite the fact it seems the LibDems have done **** all to hold back the careering nastiness of the Tories, I shudder to think how bad an unfettered Tory majority would have been for the most vulnerable in society. As far as we are concerned all 3 main parties are a dead loss. UKIP are a no-no, so it rather leaves Greens." Oh yes the nasty Tories. Of course they have to be bloody nasty because they always have to clear up the fucking disaster that Labour ALWAYS leaves behind. GO on VOTE LABOUR and when the money finally does run out you can always blame the nasty Tories. Like a bunch of bloody kids screaming because Mum wont buy them an ice cream. Does anyone actually realise how much debt the country is in? Someone has to tackle it. The touchy feely Labour party wont, all they will do is promise the earth and worry about who picks up the tab later. Nasty Mum wont buy you an ice cream, oh but nice Daddy will. Pathetic. | |||
"AT least it proves coalition governments do not work. They just water down government policies, be they right or wrong for the country. Despite the fact it seems the LibDems have done **** all to hold back the careering nastiness of the Tories, I shudder to think how bad an unfettered Tory majority would have been for the most vulnerable in society. As far as we are concerned all 3 main parties are a dead loss. UKIP are a no-no, so it rather leaves Greens. who will have us back to the pony and trap and taxed for worthless green energy projects, so you will have even less money in your pocket. yep, lets vote for them lol" We *already* have loony green projects and eye watering energy prices. On a slightly more serious note, I don't think we are alone in our sentiments. None of the big 3 parties come anywhere close to what we believe in. Maybe it's an age thing, or generational thing, but we find in conversations that we are far less wedded to any single party than our parents. | |||
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"AT least it proves coalition governments do not work. They just water down government policies, be they right or wrong for the country. Despite the fact it seems the LibDems have done **** all to hold back the careering nastiness of the Tories, I shudder to think how bad an unfettered Tory majority would have been for the most vulnerable in society. As far as we are concerned all 3 main parties are a dead loss. UKIP are a no-no, so it rather leaves Greens. Oh yes the nasty Tories. Of course they have to be bloody nasty because they always have to clear up the fucking disaster that Labour ALWAYS leaves behind. GO on VOTE LABOUR and when the money finally does run out you can always blame the nasty Tories. Like a bunch of bloody kids screaming because Mum wont buy them an ice cream. Does anyone actually realise how much debt the country is in? Someone has to tackle it. The touchy feely Labour party wont, all they will do is promise the earth and worry about who picks up the tab later. Nasty Mum wont buy you an ice cream, oh but nice Daddy will. Pathetic." I know Labour got us into this mess. So no vote for them. | |||
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"Simple truth time. Labour can't be trusted with the economy, not while so many of the people who had a hand in stuffing it up remain in senior posts in the party. The lib dems have demonstrated a repeated capacity for duplicity that they are no longer to be trusted until they have served their time in the wilderness. After the mess that Labour made of the economy, the last year or so of Browns administration should have seen the Tories all over them like a cheap suit. The fact that the Tories didn't walk the last election is down, IMHO, to weak leadership, poor policies, and political infighting instead of putting on a united front. I think the best realistic choice is ukip. Far too many people just see them as a single issue party, and that's exactly what they started out as. But I think they've come along since then, and deserve a fair shake. " UKIP are great, if you don't like the EU. Sadly, with MrJ being half Italian, that's not really an option. Hence the Greens as a pro-EU alternative. I'd happily rather see someone vote UKIP than ConLibLab. If enough people thought that, they might get the message. Although historically it takes a generation. | |||
"Far too many people just see them as a single issue party, and that's exactly what they started out as. But I think they've come along since then, and deserve a fair shake. " and just how have they shown that they've come a long way..? | |||
"Nick Clegg deserves to go in the compost bin of political history and infamy. He has enabled the worst right wing measures possible, such as NHS privatisation, student fee increases etc. And now he's power hungry, as probably most of his party are. Libdems are toast, seen as the deceitful, selfish, power hungry at any cost party mob who would have no problems stooping to anything to get back in to government. Their 'approval' ratings show they are but slime on the floor, to be avoided. LibDems are toast - goodbye and good riddance. " why did nick clegg dross the road ? because he said he wouldnt | |||
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"People moan when Tories are running things, they also moan when labour is running things. What everyone should do is get behind a new party. Someone who hasn't been given a chance for whatever reason. " this | |||
"He's scum. Time he changed his tie colour to match the Tory scum. " I think a red one would be better suited to scum. | |||
"Simple truth time. Labour can't be trusted with the economy, not while so many of the people who had a hand in stuffing it up remain in senior posts in the party. The lib dems have demonstrated a repeated capacity for duplicity that they are no longer to be trusted until they have served their time in the wilderness. After the mess that Labour made of the economy, the last year or so of Browns administration should have seen the Tories all over them like a cheap suit. The fact that the Tories didn't walk the last election is down, IMHO, to weak leadership, poor policies, and political infighting instead of putting on a united front. I think the best realistic choice is ukip. Far too many people just see them as a single issue party, and that's exactly what they started out as. But I think they've come along since then, and deserve a fair shake. UKIP are great, if you don't like the EU. Sadly, with MrJ being half Italian, that's not really an option. Hence the Greens as a pro-EU alternative. I'd happily rather see someone vote UKIP than ConLibLab. If enough people thought that, they might get the message. Although historically it takes a generation." I don't see why being half Italian should make you automatically pro EU. I'm British, Mrs is German, and we live in Germany, yet both of us and many more Germans than you would think are very Eurosceptic. We will both be voting AFD (a German version of UKIP) in the coming Euro elections, and for the first time ever a Eurosceptic party from Germany will win a few seats. The socialist/liberal/green block that currently control the EU parliament may still come out on top in May, but mark my words they are going to get one hell of a bloody nose on the way. France, Italy, Greece, Hungary, Croatia, UK, Germany, Holland, Finland, Austria and quite a few others will all elect Eurosceptic MEP's this (and for many the first) time. Sadly some, such as Golden Dawn from Greece, and the National Front from France (although Marine Le Pen has watered down some of her fathers more extreme policy's) will be far right party's, but the majority will be centre right such as UKIP and AFD. There are even a few from the left who are anti EU as well. Voting Green may appear to be a soft option and somewhere to park a protest vote, but it doesn't come without consequences. Higher energy bills and more expensive travel being the first two. Finally to anybody thinking of voting Labour, take a peep across the channel at the slow motion train wreck known as the French economy for a glimpse into Britains future under Milliband and Balls. | |||
"People moan when Tories are running things, they also moan when labour is running things. What everyone should do is get behind a new party. Someone who hasn't been given a chance for whatever reason. this" Wow | |||
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