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over a year ago
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It is quite worrying, the rain and wind just doesn't seem to be stopping. There are ponds in my fields and has been really strong wind but we have been really lucky up here. |
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"It seems the North - South divide is getting deeper 
Does the heavy rain scare me ? no of course not my home is not built on a flood plain  "
neither are a lot of the people flooded and those who will be this week..
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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If the present flooding situation personally affected those in number 10.....it would have been sorted a long time ago...Tho ,even if flooded...they could afford the cost of all the damages. I really feel for those affected ,it must be soul destroying  |
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By *iewMan
over a year ago
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"If the present flooding situation personally affected those in number 10.....it would have been sorted a long time ago...Tho ,even if flooded...they could afford the cost of all the damages. I really feel for those affected ,it must be soul destroying "
Can number 10 control it all ? |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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It's horrible looking at all those peoples lives that have been destroyed... Family homes ruined, businesses ruined!
Hope the government are going to help those affected get back in their feet again  |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"maybe we are sinking?
its awful for the people affected "
Yes the South East is sinking at a rate of 1.8mm to 2mm per year, it's caused by glacial rebound |
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"If the present flooding situation personally affected those in number 10.....it would have been sorted a long time ago...Tho ,even if flooded...they could afford the cost of all the damages. I really feel for those affected ,it must be soul destroying "
That is simply not true, they cannot afford it, but luckily you and those like you can so the MPs will be ok when their expense claims for flooding are paid out 
Nobody has mentioned a possible long term effect of flooding which could well result in a dramatic crash of house prices in areas where future flooding could be a problem, mostly but not exclusively, the South it appears. |
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"It seems the North - South divide is getting deeper
Does the heavy rain scare me ? no of course not my home is not built on a flood plain "
Well thank goodness you're allright ....... That's the kinda spirit which those affected will take great comfort from
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"If the present flooding situation personally affected those in number 10.....it would have been sorted a long time ago...Tho ,even if flooded...they could afford the cost of all the damages. I really feel for those affected ,it must be soul destroying
That is simply not true, they cannot afford it, but luckily you and those like you can so the MPs will be ok when their expense claims for flooding are paid out
Nobody has mentioned a possible long term effect of flooding which could well result in a dramatic crash of house prices in areas where future flooding could be a problem, mostly but not exclusively, the South it appears."
This is true. There will be long term knock on effect from this flooding.
And now there is a chance snow could be on the way just going to make matters worse for everybody. |
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"It seems the North - South divide is getting deeper
Does the heavy rain scare me ? no of course not my home is not built on a flood plain "
Our family farm in Somerset isn't either but had the call this morning that the water is a foot below the door sil and rising fast. It has been in our family for over 400 years and never flooded. Fun how Somerset was left for over a month to drown and Home Counties get effected and RME are there with in hours. It is shameful what they have let happen in south west |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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I wonder when the hosepipe ban will kick in 
Seriously though, those who seem to be in charge are more interested in the blame game instead of getting together and sorting it out. |
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By *oo hotCouple
over a year ago
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I happen to think that as a nation we are becoming more and more mentally shallow.
We are simply human beings and we cannot control nature. Land that is beside a river, or which is part of a meandering flood plain, or which is below sea level will get inundated from time to time. Everywhere that is now flooded has flooded before and will flood again in the future. The fact that it has not flooded for 50 or 100 years is completely irrelevant because the weather is not cyclical. Last two years we had very cold winters and this year it has been mild and wet. The South has copped for an extreme amount of rainfall and large areas have flooded - such is the natural world.
It is simply pointless to blame politicians or the Environment Agency because it is impossible to protect all of us from every kind of eventuality. We have had excessive rainfall and the rivers have flooded just like they are supposed to do when we excessive rainfall. It is very sad for the people affected but the river Thames and Severn and all their tributaries are no different from the Nile, the Amazon and the Ganges.... Excessive rains cause floods. |
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"I happen to think that as a nation we are becoming more and more mentally shallow.
We are simply human beings and we cannot control nature. Land that is beside a river, or which is part of a meandering flood plain, or which is below sea level will get inundated from time to time. Everywhere that is now flooded has flooded before and will flood again in the future. The fact that it has not flooded for 50 or 100 years is completely irrelevant because the weather is not cyclical. Last two years we had very cold winters and this year it has been mild and wet. The South has copped for an extreme amount of rainfall and large areas have flooded - such is the natural world.
It is simply pointless to blame politicians or the Environment Agency because it is impossible to protect all of us from every kind of eventuality. We have had excessive rainfall and the rivers have flooded just like they are supposed to do when we excessive rainfall. It is very sad for the people affected but the river Thames and Severn and all their tributaries are no different from the Nile, the Amazon and the Ganges.... Excessive rains cause floods."
I agree with a lot of what you say but the weather IS cyclical. It's cycle is not predictable into neat centuries it's got less to do with earth than it has with events throughout the universe and for all we know further beyond that but it is cyclical.
The plains are reclaimed land. You don't reclaim from dry land. They belong to the sea and will return to the sea unless managed.
Why haven't the rivers been regularly dredged ? It's well known that dredging is needed to stop the overflow.
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"It seems the North - South divide is getting deeper
Does the heavy rain scare me ? no of course not my home is not built on a flood plain
Well thank goodness you're allright ....... That's the kinda spirit which those affected will take great comfort from
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Yes that's true, the difference is I said it whilst many others are doing lip service, "Oh those poor people" at the same time as thinking "I'm alright Jack", being a realist does not make me a bad person, I cannot do much to help those people affected, I don't drive, I cannot get down to those areas to help fill sandbags, or offer temporary shelter to the victims or send them things which might help their plight, some people can, few are.
Least of all the Government and the water companies it would seem.
This is most probably an effect of climate change at least in some part, that means that this will not be the last time we have this problem and perhaps worse in future years, what thought is being put into long term solutions for these and other areas of the UK ?
Saying "there there" might work on the Big Bang Theory but it doesn't help those people one iota, mass migration out of lowland areas might just be necessary and my comment was intended to provoke thought, it appears it might have worked.
It may even be that we have to look into propagating rice fields in those farm areas in the future, crazy ? forethought is not a bad thing and if more thought had been used years ago they might not be in this position. |
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We are simply human beings and we cannot control nature. Land that is beside a river, or which is part of a meandering flood plain, or which is below sea level will get inundated from time to time. Everywhere that is now flooded has flooded before and will flood again in the future. "
agree we cant control nature, we can only live with what it throws at us and where we have the experience and the money to do so then prepare and plan for what may happen..
the Dutch have looked at it from sad experience and are years ahead of most of the rest of the world as regards this subject..
building on a flood plain is not impossible but you have to do so with that in mind, it will flood at some point as thats how it works..
dredging the rivers in Somerset may have alleviated some of the flooding 6 weeks ago but with what weve had recently i doubt it would have alleviated all the present flooding..
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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With limited budgets they have to choose the most cost effective solutions, if they can spend x amount at a and save 500 houses as opposed to spending x amount at b and save 5 houses it gets spent at a.
Saying that I'm sure they said on the news recently that the environment agency hasn't spent its full budget in recent years, so something or someone isn't working properly.
A lot of the riverside properties are in the main, very desirable properties and command a much greater price than the equivalent property not beside the water. Not all but a good proportion. Surely they were aware of the likely hood of flooding in extreme conditions.
It maybe more cost effective in the Somerset levels to rebuild the houses on stilts like they do in America, raise the roads by several metres onto embankments and leave the fields to nature. In some cases I think the landowners are responsible for the upkeep of rivers through their land.
There was a small flood in an area of Plymouth last year, the owner of a house that was flood in the paper said he had been and looked at the culvert and it was blocked with an old tent, did he remove it? No he went home and phoned the environment agency to come and clear it... Maybe if he had got some neighbours and cleared the rubbish out of the culvert they may have prevented the flooding. People don't always want to help themselves and expect the state to do it for them. We seem to be moving towards a nanny state. |
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There was a time when we would never have dreamt of farming on much of the land that is in danger of flooding let alone build homes there, then along came the war and farmers were not only encouraged but bulled into producing more crops, draining fields that had only been used for grazing and planting ever more crops, for obvious reasons.
But once used for crops and not grazing the practice continued, it was inevitable that these lands would flood sooner or later. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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Did you know that if every Chinese person on earth filled and carried two buckets of water each, then sea level would fall by 1 foot globally?
It's your duty to tell them this the next time you go for your Chicken Chop Suey. |
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By *nnyMan
over a year ago
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Did you know that if every Chinese person on earth filled and carried two buckets of water each, then sea level would fall by 1 foot globally?
It's your duty to tell them this the next time you go for your Chicken Chop Suey. "
And just kept carrying them? |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Sandbags.
There's got to be a better way of filling them than one guy with a shovel while one guy holds it open."
Yep, one woman with a shovel and tow women to hold the bag open so they can have a natter.
Aren't dykes useful in areas prone to flooding. |
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