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"We had one fitted yesterday, looks great. Wondered how many others have one, they seen very popular."
They are great if you add coal lol.Then you will feel it!
Just make sure you have a sharp axe as those little bags of wood in the garage dont last 5 mins.
I love my woodburner.
Also absolutely great place to get naked and have amazing sex! ( Depending where you put it i guess)..
Ps ive often had off topic chats on here with guys about woodburners . Is it a man thing?
Apparently its a swingers site too..
Well I can swing my axe let me tell you! Good luck with the burner!  |
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over a year ago
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"i loved my wood burner .. how much fiddling about is acceptable .. "
. It's not just a man thing... I love mine. And I can swing an axe just as good as any man
And the having sex in front of it. On a sheepskin rug.....
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"i loved my wood burner .. how much fiddling about is acceptable .. . It's not just a man thing... I love mine. And I can swing an axe just as good as any man
And the having sex in front of it. On a sheepskin rug.....
A.m.a.z.i.n.g"
All very true. I often drag my woman into my woodcave. We swing the axe together drag the said chopped wood to the burner and do the wild thang and burn our bums !
A W E S O M E !
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"i loved my wood burner .. how much fiddling about is acceptable .. . It's not just a man thing... I love mine. And I can swing an axe just as good as any man
And the having sex in front of it. On a sheepskin rug.....
A.m.a.z.i.n.g
All very true. I often drag my woman into my woodcave. We swing the axe together drag the said chopped wood to the burner and do the wild thang and burn our bums !
A W E S O M E !
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By *umpkinMan
over a year ago
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Look up the poems "Woodcutter`s Lore" and similar for what wood you should really be burning! Main thing is to make sure your wood is well seasoned and dry. I have to admit I burn almost anything in my stove. The one thing I won`t burn is heavily creosoted wood like railway sleepers as that old creosote is really too much to burn in any stove unless you want a massive chimney fire! |
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"Look up the poems "Woodcutter`s Lore" and similar for what wood you should really be burning! Main thing is to make sure your wood is well seasoned and dry. I have to admit I burn almost anything in my stove. The one thing I won`t burn is heavily creosoted wood like railway sleepers as that old creosote is really too much to burn in any stove unless you want a massive chimney fire!"
. Ohhh have had 2 chimney fires in 6yrs,,,, due to stupidity rather than the wood I burned
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By *atcoupleCouple
over a year ago
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We've got one (pictured with Wife in front of it on our avatar picture).
They are fantastic and give out a lot of heat.
One tip though, make sure you get the chimney swept at least once a year. |
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We put one in 6 months ago, fantastic. We use coal or wood. Coal lasts longer, but wood looks nicer.
Careful cleaning the glass, we use a nonscratch plastic scourer. |
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"We had one fitted yesterday, looks great. Wondered how many others have one, they seen very popular."
mmmmm sounds exciting looking forward to the pictures
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"Look up the poems "Woodcutter`s Lore" and similar for what wood you should really be burning! Main thing is to make sure your wood is well seasoned and dry. I have to admit I burn almost anything in my stove. The one thing I won`t burn is heavily creosoted wood like railway sleepers as that old creosote is really too much to burn in any stove unless you want a massive chimney fire!. Ohhh have had 2 chimney fires in 6yrs,,,, due to stupidity rather than the wood I burned"
what did you do to cause the fires??? |
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"We put one in 6 months ago, fantastic. We use coal or wood. Coal lasts longer, but wood looks nicer.
Careful cleaning the glass, we use a nonscratch plastic scourer."
I clean the glass with damp newspaper!  |
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over a year ago
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our woodburner is the only form of heating we have on our boat
plus side it gives out loads of heat
negative side is the ash and the dust
but wouldn't be without it  |
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"We put one in 6 months ago, fantastic. We use coal or wood. Coal lasts longer, but wood looks nicer.
Careful cleaning the glass, we use a nonscratch plastic scourer.
I clean the glass with damp newspaper! "
We did that first, much easier with a scourer. |
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I clean the glass with damp newspaper! "
this..
had ours about 5 yrs, good piece of kit..
never burn mdf or anything painted etc, too much clag in ones flue..
mrs surrey thinks i have a log fetish lol..
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I clean the glass with damp newspaper!
this..
had ours about 5 yrs, good piece of kit..
never burn mdf or anything painted etc, too much clag in ones flue..
mrs surrey thinks i have a log fetish lol..
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No very sensible I've had to replace flexi-liners that have only been in months because they have been burning wet and treated wood the silly billies |
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By *Ryan-Man
over a year ago
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Apologies for going slightly off topic. My mantel piece is made from a mahoosive old tree trunk which passes through the chimney breast. Part of this is exposed inside the breast, so obviously I don't use it as an open fire.
Does anyone know if you can get any sort of cover to protect this? And who would you ask for a safety inspection? |
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By *imiUKMan
over a year ago
Hereford |
"Apologies for going slightly off topic. My mantel piece is made from a mahoosive old tree trunk which passes through the chimney breast. Part of this is exposed inside the breast, so obviously I don't use it as an open fire.
Does anyone know if you can get any sort of cover to protect this? And who would you ask for a safety inspection?"
Has it ever been covered?
If not you are probably OK - I have had wooden lintels before, but they have been high enough not to smoulder when the fire is lit. |
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"Apologies for going slightly off topic. My mantel piece is made from a mahoosive old tree trunk which passes through the chimney breast. Part of this is exposed inside the breast, so obviously I don't use it as an open fire.
Does anyone know if you can get any sort of cover to protect this? And who would you ask for a safety inspection?"
I'm actually heatas registered can you believe it lol do you want to put a wood burner in the opening? |
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By *Ryan-Man
over a year ago
In Your Bush |
"Apologies for going slightly off topic. My mantel piece is made from a mahoosive old tree trunk which passes through the chimney breast. Part of this is exposed inside the breast, so obviously I don't use it as an open fire.
Does anyone know if you can get any sort of cover to protect this? And who would you ask for a safety inspection?
Has it ever been covered?
If not you are probably OK - I have had wooden lintels before, but they have been high enough not to smoulder when the fire is lit. "
No it hasn't. It was only used as a proper fire before it was put in. |
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By *Ryan-Man
over a year ago
In Your Bush |
"Apologies for going slightly off topic. My mantel piece is made from a mahoosive old tree trunk which passes through the chimney breast. Part of this is exposed inside the breast, so obviously I don't use it as an open fire.
Does anyone know if you can get any sort of cover to protect this? And who would you ask for a safety inspection?
I'm actually heatas registered can you believe it lol do you want to put a wood burner in the opening?"
It has a gas fire in it at the moment. I would like to take it out and use it as a conventional open fire. |
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"We had one fitted yesterday, looks great. Wondered how many others have one, they seen very popular."
Yes we have one in the kitchen . And its lovely on a cold day to see a real fire.
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"Apologies for going slightly off topic. My mantel piece is made from a mahoosive old tree trunk which passes through the chimney breast. Part of this is exposed inside the breast, so obviously I don't use it as an open fire.
Does anyone know if you can get any sort of cover to protect this? And who would you ask for a safety inspection?
Has it ever been covered?
If not you are probably OK - I have had wooden lintels before, but they have been high enough not to smoulder when the fire is lit.
No it hasn't. It was only used as a proper fire before it was put in. "
assume the lintel is hardwood..? |
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"Apologies for going slightly off topic. My mantel piece is made from a mahoosive old tree trunk which passes through the chimney breast. Part of this is exposed inside the breast, so obviously I don't use it as an open fire.
Does anyone know if you can get any sort of cover to protect this? And who would you ask for a safety inspection?
I'm actually heatas registered can you
believe it lol do you want to put a wood burner in the opening?
It has a gas fire in it at the moment. I would like to take it out and use it as a conventional open fire. "
There are ways you have to clad the combustible material with a non combustible materiel such as "aspestolux" board with an air gap between but not really a good way to make it look good I suppose it depends on how far the fire is away from the beam ? |
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By *Ryan-Man
over a year ago
In Your Bush |
"Apologies for going slightly off topic. My mantel piece is made from a mahoosive old tree trunk which passes through the chimney breast. Part of this is exposed inside the breast, so obviously I don't use it as an open fire.
Does anyone know if you can get any sort of cover to protect this? And who would you ask for a safety inspection?
Has it ever been covered?
If not you are probably OK - I have had wooden lintels before, but they have been high enough not to smoulder when the fire is lit.
No it hasn't. It was only used as a proper fire before it was put in.
assume the lintel is hardwood..?"
Bloody hard, I nearly knocked myself out on it the other day 
But yes, I think it's oak. |
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"Apologies for going slightly off topic. My mantel piece is made from a mahoosive old tree trunk which passes through the chimney breast. Part of this is exposed inside the breast, so obviously I don't use it as an open fire.
Does anyone know if you can get any sort of cover to protect this? And who would you ask for a safety inspection?
Has it ever been covered?
If not you are probably OK - I have had wooden lintels before, but they have been high enough not to smoulder when the fire is lit.
No it hasn't. It was only used as a proper fire before it was put in.
assume the lintel is hardwood..?
Bloody hard, I nearly knocked myself out on it the other day
But yes, I think it's oak. "
should be ok as long as height etc as Dave is saying..
would still get it checked professionally though..
and as your in Trumpton..
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over a year ago
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"We put one in 6 months ago, fantastic. We use coal or wood. Coal lasts longer, but wood looks nicer.
Careful cleaning the glass, we use a nonscratch plastic scourer."
Havent had to clean my glass since ive been using mine this season
Mine lit from 11 till 1am most days |
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By *Ryan-Man
over a year ago
In Your Bush |
"Apologies for going slightly off topic. My mantel piece is made from a mahoosive old tree trunk which passes through the chimney breast. Part of this is exposed inside the breast, so obviously I don't use it as an open fire.
Does anyone know if you can get any sort of cover to protect this? And who would you ask for a safety inspection?
I'm actually heatas registered can you
believe it lol do you want to put a wood burner in the opening?
It has a gas fire in it at the moment. I would like to take it out and use it as a conventional open fire.
There are ways you have to clad the combustible material with a non combustible materiel such as "aspestolux" board with an air gap between but not really a good way to make it look good I suppose it depends on how far the fire is away from the beam ? "
The fireplace aperture is 780mm high, then there is 300mm of brickwork, then the beam, so it would be 1 metre off the hearth. It juts out internally into the chimney breast my 80mm. It doesn't matter what it looked like as it wouldn't be seen. |
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"Apologies for going slightly off topic. My mantel piece is made from a mahoosive old tree trunk which passes through the chimney breast. Part of this is exposed inside the breast, so obviously I don't use it as an open fire.
Does anyone know if you can get any sort of cover to protect this? And who would you ask for a safety inspection?
I'm actually heatas registered can you
believe it lol do you want to put a wood burner in the opening?
It has a gas fire in it at the moment. I would like to take it out and use it as a conventional open fire.
There are ways you have to clad the combustible material with a non combustible materiel such as "aspestolux" board with an air gap between but not really a good way to make it look good I suppose it depends on how far the fire is away from the beam ?
The fireplace aperture is 780mm high, then there is 300mm of brickwork, then the beam, so it would be 1 metre off the hearth. It juts out internally into the chimney breast my 80mm. It doesn't matter what it looked like as it wouldn't be seen. "
It is a tricky one. to be honest open fires are a pain in the arse regulation wise I can check and get back to you but if you want to have a look yourself it's building regulations document J or get a heatas registered fellow to have a look just go on their website to find your nearest |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Put a wood burner in you tight fucker!!
Go on then. Fab rates? "
I'd have to change them slightly for you so say a bacon sandwich and a manly handshake ! Lol |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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I read a while back that in the case of a normal open fire just 20% of the heat generated heats the room & 80% is lost up the chimney whereas in the case of a wood/coal burning stove, fitted away from a wall or chimney, 80% of the heat generated heats the room whilst only 20% is lost up the chimney or flu.
Just a useful piece of info, - back to you in the studio!!  |
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By *Ryan-Man
over a year ago
In Your Bush |
"Apologies for going slightly off topic. My mantel piece is made from a mahoosive old tree trunk which passes through the chimney breast. Part of this is exposed inside the breast, so obviously I don't use it as an open fire.
Does anyone know if you can get any sort of cover to protect this? And who would you ask for a safety inspection?
I'm actually heatas registered can you
believe it lol do you want to put a wood burner in the opening?
It has a gas fire in it at the moment. I would like to take it out and use it as a conventional open fire.
There are ways you have to clad the combustible material with a non combustible materiel such as "aspestolux" board with an air gap between but not really a good way to make it look good I suppose it depends on how far the fire is away from the beam ?
The fireplace aperture is 780mm high, then there is 300mm of brickwork, then the beam, so it would be 1 metre off the hearth. It juts out internally into the chimney breast my 80mm. It doesn't matter what it looked like as it wouldn't be seen.
It is a tricky one. to be honest open fires are a pain in the arse regulation wise I can check and get back to you but if you want to have a look yourself it's building regulations document J or get a heatas registered fellow to have a look just go on their website to find your nearest "
From what I can find, it looks like a no no. Bugger it, I'll cut it out and prop it up with an Acro  |
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By *ENDAROOSCouple
over a year ago
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"We had one fitted yesterday, looks great. Wondered how many others have one, they seen very popular."
Not yet we haven't....plan on getting one, once we get round to doing the front room. |
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Used to have one, it's much better if you can get free wood. Was burning £50 of logs a month when we were buying hardwood by the dumpy bag. Then I bought a chainsaw 
Supposed to be multi fuel stoves to burn coal, if I remember correctly coal burns better with the airflow from below so you get a moveable grate with a multi fuel stove. Wood burns better with airflow from above on a bed of ash. |
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"Apologies for going slightly off topic. My mantel piece is made from a mahoosive old tree trunk which passes through the chimney breast. Part of this is exposed inside the breast, so obviously I don't use it as an open fire.
Does anyone know if you can get any sort of cover to protect this? And who would you ask for a safety inspection?
I'm actually heatas registered can you
believe it lol do you want to put a woo
d burner in the opening?
It has a gas fire in it at the moment. I would like to take it out and use it as a conventional open fire.
There are ways you have to clad the
combustible material with a non combustible materiel such as "aspestolux" board with an air gap between but not really a good way to make it look good I suppose it depends on how far the fire is away from the beam ?
The fireplace aperture is 780mm high, then there is 300mm of brickwork, then the beam, so it would be 1 metre off the hearth. It juts out internally into the chimney breast my 80mm. It doesn't
matter what it looked like as it wouldn't be seen.
It is a tricky one. to be honest open fires are a pain in the arse regulation wise I can check and get back to you but if
you want to have a look yourself it's building regulations document J or get a heatas registered fellow to have a look just go on their website to find your nearest
From what I can find, it looks like a no
no. Bugger it, I'll cut it out and prop it up with an Acro "
Lol do you want a job! If you did put a stove in you would just have to put twin wall solid flue past the beam with a 50mm air gap |
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By *umpkinMan
over a year ago
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"Used to have one, it's much better if you can get free wood. Was burning £50 of logs a month when we were buying hardwood by the dumpy bag. Then I bought a chainsaw
Supposed to be multi fuel stoves to burn coal, if I remember correctly coal burns better with the airflow from below so you get a moveable grate with a multi fuel stove. Wood burns better with airflow from above on a bed of ash."
That`s what I understand too. I really noticed the reducion in drafts after I went from an open fire to a log burner. Don`t see the point in a multi fuel type. |
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over a year ago
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From what I gather multi fuel and woodburner's are the same thing with the obvious difference you can burn coal and smokeless in the multi.
Had ours four days now and I love it. |
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over a year ago
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I work in/with the energy utilities, its been asked a few times and ive no fucking clue what it is lol
did u get a greenhomes cashback on it?-just i know u might have had money back lol
*bearer of bad news eh? lol |
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"From what I gather multi fuel and woodburner's are the same thing with the obvious difference you can burn coal and smokeless in the multi.
Had ours four days now and I love it."
Multi fuels have a moveable grate aka riddling grate so that the ash can drop down into the ash pan and increase the airflow to the coal from underneath.
You can usually do this without having to open the burner by using a lever on the outside.
Coal would burn hotter than wood but as far as I know the basic appliance is the same, I had a stovax Brunel and there were multifuel and wood burning versions. The only difference I aware of was the grate. |
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"We had one fitted yesterday, looks great. Wondered how many others have one, they seen very popular."
hetas registered fitter here...massive difference in everyones homes tbh,multifuel?..get on the coal its cheap as chips to run and the heat is amazing
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"From what I gather multi fuel and woodburner's are the same thing with the obvious difference you can burn coal and smokeless in the multi.
Had ours four days now and I love it.
Multi fuels have a moveable grate aka riddling grate so that the ash can drop down into the ash pan and increase the airflow to the coal from underneath.
You can usually do this without having to open the burner by using a lever on the outside.
Coal would burn hotter than wood but as far as I know the basic appliance is the same, I had a stovax Brunel and there were multifuel and wood burning versions. The only difference I aware of was the grate."
Most stoves are multi fuel and a few are wood only,In my opinion anyone looking to purchase should avoid steel ones and go for traditional cast iron models firefox5 and firefox8 are currently great value and always use a liner regardless as it helps your stove perform so much more efficiently |
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"Used to have one, it's much better if you can get free wood. Was burning £50 of logs a month when we were buying hardwood by the dumpy bag. Then I bought a chainsaw
Supposed to be multi fuel stoves to burn coal, if I remember correctly coal burns better with the airflow from below so you get a moveable grate with a multi fuel stove. Wood burns better with airflow from above on a bed of ash.
That`s what I understand too. I really noticed the reducion in drafts after I went from an open fire to a log burner. Don`t see the point in a multi fuel type. "
A stove reduces the airflow up the flue, and reduces the supply of air for combustion to the fire, this in turn makes the fuel burn slower and gives a greater amount of time for the heat to transfer to the room before rising up the flue.
Multifuel is good if you don't always have a good supply of wood you can burn other fuels more efficiently. |
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"We put one in 6 months ago, fantastic. We use coal or wood. Coal lasts longer, but wood looks nicer.
Careful cleaning the glass, we use a nonscratch plastic scourer."
A tip here ,clean your glass with the ash and fresh clean water rubbing gently.... |
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"Used to have one, it's much better if you can get free wood. Was burning £50 of logs a month when we were buying hardwood by the dumpy bag. Then I bought a chainsaw
Supposed to be multi fuel stoves to burn coal, if I remember correctly coal burns better with the airflow from below so you get a moveable grate with a multi fuel stove. Wood burns better with airflow from above on a bed of ash.
That`s what I understand too. I really noticed the reducion in drafts after I went from an open fire to a log burner. Don`t see the point in a multi fuel type.
A stove reduces the airflow up the flue, and reduces the supply of air for combustion to the fire, this in turn makes the fuel burn slower and gives a greater amount of time for the heat to transfer to the room before rising up the flue.
Multifuel is good if you don't always have a good supply of wood you can burn other fuels more efficiently."
It would reduce the airflow as you have a register plate which encloses the flue and a metre pipe running through it |
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In my quest to burn more wood and avoid buying it yesterday I bought a chainsaw from my local car boot
Now I am a man possessed armed with axe and chainsaw looking for fallen trees . Lol.
Just need to find a disussed coal mine and im away
Dual is best.
Free wood gives a great feeling of happiness and extreme heat as you can just keep throwing it on.
Just remember turn it right down once going and the red glow will burn you like youve gone to hell and your fuel will last longer |
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"Try damp newspaper dipped in the ash. works a treat, then just wipe the glass down."
Was told this by somebody else, it works but caused a scratch on the glass, which is why we only use a damp plastic scourer. It is quicker and easier with the scourer. |
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By *ezebelWoman
over a year ago
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"In my quest to burn more wood and avoid buying it yesterday I bought a chainsaw from my local car boot
Now I am a man possessed armed with axe and chainsaw looking for fallen trees . Lol.
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Im like a woman possessed when I have a pair of secateurs or loppers - dread to think what I would be like with a chain saw.
I want one  |
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"In my quest to burn more wood and avoid buying it yesterday I bought a chainsaw from my local car boot
Now I am a man possessed armed with axe and chainsaw looking for fallen trees . Lol.
Just need to find a disussed coal mine and im away
Dual is best.
Free wood gives a great feeling of happiness and extreme heat as you can just keep throwing it on.
Just remember turn it right down once going and the red glow will burn you like youve gone to hell and your fuel will last longer "
Hope you've at least read up a bit on chainsaw use, they can be very dangerous and the safety equipment if you buy it (I didn't) will cost a lot more than the chainsaw... Don't use the end to plunge cut, it can cause it to kickback towards your face. And remember unless you have passed the chainsaw course it is illegal to use it anywhere but your own garden... Quiet deserted woods are going to be okay, unless you have an accident, your local park probably not so good.
Get a chain sharpening kit, it's only two files and gauges/guides but will save you a fortune on new chains and reduce the effort you have to put in to cut stuff. Tension the chain correctly, the chain shouldn't come out of the blade guides when pulled.
Lots of weird forces on fallen trees, think about where it could spring to when you've cut through it.
Apart from that it's great fun. |
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Blimey. Anal sex is illegal with your own wife too but ille be buggered if im going on a course for that either !
Watch out woods here I come with my big saw for round two!
Thanks for the advice think im just gonna thrash it around wildly wahoo!
Crazy man with a chain saw ! Haha.
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By *umpkinMan
over a year ago
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"In my quest to burn more wood and avoid buying it yesterday I bought a chainsaw from my local car boot
Now I am a man possessed armed with axe and chainsaw looking for fallen trees . Lol.
Just need to find a disussed coal mine and im away
Dual is best.
Free wood gives a great feeling of happiness and extreme heat as you can just keep throwing it on.
Just remember turn it right down once going and the red glow will burn you like youve gone to hell and your fuel will last longer
Hope you've at least read up a bit on chainsaw use, they can be very dangerous and the safety equipment if you buy it (I didn't) will cost a lot more than the chainsaw... Don't use the end to plunge cut, it can cause it to kickback towards your face. And remember unless you have passed the chainsaw course it is illegal to use it anywhere but your own garden... Quiet deserted woods are going to be okay, unless you have an accident, your local park probably not so good.
Get a chain sharpening kit, it's only two files and gauges/guides but will save you a fortune on new chains and reduce the effort you have to put in to cut stuff. Tension the chain correctly, the chain shouldn't come out of the blade guides when pulled.
Lots of weird forces on fallen trees, think about where it could spring to when you've cut through it.
Apart from that it's great fun."
Echo all that on the safety kit! Many years ago I was cutting a piece of hollow wood and "just put the toe of boot inside" to hold the log. I went cold when afterwards I saw the cut across the toe of my steel toe cap wellie! Having said that, even the proper safety kit is no guarantee but I know which I prefer! |
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"Blimey. Anal sex is illegal with your own wife too but ille be buggered if im going on a course for that either !
Watch out woods here I come with my big saw for round two!
Thanks for the advice think im just gonna thrash it around wildly wahoo!
Crazy man with a chain saw ! Haha.
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Crazy man with one less arm or leg if you're not careful... |
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I was on a meet with a horny but shy lady. The lights were off in her room.
I was going full pelt. She said fuck me from behind.
I flipped her onto her knees plunged back in horny as hell.
Next thing im virtually knocked out one of those cupboards above the bed. Split my head open.
I think ille be less, at risk withthe chainsaw as I dont use it in the dark. Or naked.
I need a hard hat for fucking I guess.
The cupboard would have burnt well. Totally fucked it too. Ouch!
Im preparing for round 3 with a fallen tree. They burn so well . I feel like a cross between Jack Nicholson and texas chain saw. Watch out woods heres Johnny! |
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