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"How many people on here suffer with or have been treated for depression?
No such thing.. 
Care to share why?"
I think its because there is no medical diagnosis of depression, it comes under anxiety and stuff. I think.... |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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"How many people on here suffer with or have been treated for depression?
No such thing..
Care to share why?
I think its because there is no medical diagnosis of depression, it comes under anxiety and stuff. I think...."
doctors still write it on medical reports and certificates. Suffering with anxiety is nothing like depression |
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"How many people on here suffer with or have been treated for depression?
No such thing..
Care to share why?
I think its because there is no medical diagnosis of depression, it comes under anxiety and stuff. I think....
doctors still write it on medical reports and certificates. Suffering with anxiety is nothing like depression "
I agree I've suffered with both on a small scale / short period |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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"How many people on here suffer with or have been treated for depression?
I struggled with postnatal depression but was very lucky to have good support from Mr B and our family."
that is terrible to cope with plus a new baby. Family support is essential |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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Yes I have and it's no fun at all.
One of my dearest friends is going through a breakdown at the moment and is visited daily by the mental health crisis team, I worry constantly god knows how hard it must be for her husband and children. |
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"How many people on here suffer with or have been treated for depression?
No such thing.. "
I have suffered two bouts, the latter a very serious post natal. Only came off antidepressants last summer just before my child's sixth birthday. Come and tell my dark places that there is no such thing!
S xx |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
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"Yes I have and it's no fun at all.
One of my dearest friends is going through a breakdown at the moment and is visited daily by the mental health crisis team, I worry constantly god knows how hard it must be for her husband and children."
being an illness of the brain people don't see or know how bad the sufferer is feeling. Family support is essential. A sufferer can't explain what is wrong or why they can't wash up or work out bills |
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By *icketysplitsWoman
over a year ago
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Yes, since I was 10 but I didn't acknowledge it or get treatment until I was 24. I have spent a lot of my last 24 years working to end the stigma about depression and poor mental health.
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By (user no longer on site)
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"How many people on here suffer with or have been treated for depression?
No such thing..
Care to share why?
Do your research. "
I think if you are going to make such unsubstantiated claims you should probably be the one to quantify them.
I don't need to do research. I know it exists. |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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"Been on antidepressants for nearly 7 years now, Would like to be off them by the end if the year, we shall see..."
it's a slow process I know. You can't always see the end of it but you have to have hope and conviction that you will come through it |
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"Yes, since I was 10 but I didn't acknowledge it or get treatment until I was 24. I have spent a lot of my last 24 years working to end the stigma about depression and poor mental health.
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the ignorant people are the ones who have never suffered with it. Because you can't see the physical signs and it's the brain people say it's all in the mind and you should snap out of it |
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By *ast_jjMan
over a year ago
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"Both of us, we have our ups and downs, it would be nice if they could coincide"
It must have been tough both of ye having depression? My mother suffered from depression for many years and my sister is suffering from it at the minute but getting through it. J
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"How many people on here suffer with or have been treated for depression?
No such thing..
I have suffered two bouts, the latter a very serious post natal. Only came off antidepressants last summer just before my child's sixth birthday. Come and tell my dark places that there is no such thing!
S xx"
dark places, bouts of confusion, uncontrollable crying. Medical people call it depression |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Been on antidepressants for nearly 7 years now, Would like to be off them by the end if the year, we shall see...
it's a slow process I know. You can't always see the end of it but you have to have hope and conviction that you will come through it "
Thank you, I have suffered with it all my life its only in the last 7 years I got help for it, hopefully im getting to the stage where I can come off medication but if I have to carry on taking a tablet daily to keep that feeling of despair at bay then il do it. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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you up when he's down? Nice to have someone who understands "
We both have our demons. crystal is bipolar and I an currently being diagnosed/treated for an anxiety disorder that has plagued me to varying degrees.
We do hold each other up but fuck me it's horrendous when we both crash
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Been on antidepressants for nearly 7 years now, Would like to be off them by the end if the year, we shall see... Fingers crossed you will. J x"
Thank you x |
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By *icketysplitsWoman
over a year ago
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"Yes, since I was 10 but I didn't acknowledge it or get treatment until I was 24. I have spent a lot of my last 24 years working to end the stigma about depression and poor mental health.
the ignorant people are the ones who have never suffered with it. Because you can't see the physical signs and it's the brain people say it's all in the mind and you should snap out of it "
I know. If I could talk about some of the detail of some of the work I have been involved with over the years I would. Instead, I encourage people to look at things like Foresight Mental Capital and Wellbeing Project research and give everyone the five ways of wellbeing:
Connect
Be active
Take notice
Keep learning
Give.
You can't do it when you are in the dark depths but it helps when you come into some light and is good for all of us whether bonkers like me or not.
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By *ast_jjMan
over a year ago
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you up when he's down? Nice to have someone who understands
We both have our demons. crystal is bipolar and I an currently being diagnosed/treated for an anxiety disorder that has plagued me to varying degrees.
We do hold each other up but fuck me it's horrendous when we both crash
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Fair play to ye. It must be tough going when ye are both down? J x |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"How many people on here suffer with or have been treated for depression?
No such thing..
I'm really sorry but without any evidence to back up your claim I find this comment utterly ridiculous. "
Unless you can prove otherwise except for SAYING you suffer from depression then please enlighten me? |
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"Me for ages, it can be absolutely crippling.
life changing not in a good way "
I think once you come through the storm it can change your life for the better. We develop insight and understanding and begin to live rather then exist  |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
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"How many people on here suffer with or have been treated for depression?
No such thing..
I'm really sorry but without any evidence to back up your claim I find this comment utterly ridiculous.
Unless you can prove otherwise except for SAYING you suffer from depression then please enlighten me? "
when a psychiatrist tells you you have depression and give you medication for it you tend to think you have depression |
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"How many people on here suffer with or have been treated for depression?
No such thing..
I'm really sorry but without any evidence to back up your claim I find this comment utterly ridiculous.
Unless you can prove otherwise except for SAYING you suffer from depression then please enlighten me? "
I don't suffer with depression but I studied in mental health so trust me it exists... |
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"How many people on here suffer with or have been treated for depression?
No such thing..
I'm really sorry but without any evidence to back up your claim I find this comment utterly ridiculous.
Unless you can prove otherwise except for SAYING you suffer from depression then please enlighten me? "
what a ridiculous thing to say. Maybe you should take a look inside a physciatric unit
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By (user no longer on site)
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"How many people on here suffer with or have been treated for depression?
No such thing..
I'm really sorry but without any evidence to back up your claim I find this comment utterly ridiculous.
Unless you can prove otherwise except for SAYING you suffer from depression then please enlighten me?
I don't suffer with depression but I studied in mental health so trust me it exists..."
More fool you for thinking so even with your studies in mental health. Thats textbook stuff.
Everyone to themselves though as I was just putting my _iew forward.. |
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"How many people on here suffer with or have been treated for depression?
No such thing..
I'm really sorry but without any evidence to back up your claim I find this comment utterly ridiculous.
Unless you can prove otherwise except for SAYING you suffer from depression then please enlighten me? "
Your profile says you are open minded and respectful.  |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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"How many people on here suffer with or have been treated for depression?
No such thing..
I'm really sorry but without any evidence to back up your claim I find this comment utterly ridiculous.
Unless you can prove otherwise except for SAYING you suffer from depression then please enlighten me?
I don't suffer with depression but I studied in mental health so trust me it exists...
More fool you for thinking so even with your studies in mental health. Thats textbook stuff.
Everyone to themselves though as I was just putting my _iew forward.."
would you care to share your knowledge? I'm intrigued |
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By *icketysplitsWoman
over a year ago
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"How many people on here suffer with or have been treated for depression?
No such thing..
I'm really sorry but without any evidence to back up your claim I find this comment utterly ridiculous.
Unless you can prove otherwise except for SAYING you suffer from depression then please enlighten me?
I don't suffer with depression but I studied in mental health so trust me it exists...
More fool you for thinking so even with your studies in mental health. Thats textbook stuff.
Everyone to themselves though as I was just putting my _iew forward.."
It is good to see you have such an open mind. I'll hold the _iew that men don't suffer from PE they just do it to punish me when I am horny.
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"How many people on here suffer with or have been treated for depression?
No such thing..
I'm really sorry but without any evidence to back up your claim I find this comment utterly ridiculous.
Unless you can prove otherwise except for SAYING you suffer from depression then please enlighten me?
I don't suffer with depression but I studied in mental health so trust me it exists...
More fool you for thinking so even with your studies in mental health. Thats textbook stuff.
Everyone to themselves though as I was just putting my _iew forward.."
You know fuck all about me so more fool you... |
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"How many people on here suffer with or have been treated for depression?
No such thing..
I'm really sorry but without any evidence to back up your claim I find this comment utterly ridiculous.
Unless you can prove otherwise except for SAYING you suffer from depression then please enlighten me?
Your profile says you are open minded and respectful. "
Ive shown no disrespect at all. Just a _iew. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"How many people on here suffer with or have been treated for depression?
No such thing..
I'm really sorry but without any evidence to back up your claim I find this comment utterly ridiculous.
Unless you can prove otherwise except for SAYING you suffer from depression then please enlighten me?
I don't suffer with depression but I studied in mental health so trust me it exists...
More fool you for thinking so even with your studies in mental health. Thats textbook stuff.
Everyone to themselves though as I was just putting my _iew forward.."
But still not willing to substantiate it. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"How many people on here suffer with or have been treated for depression?
No such thing..
I'm really sorry but without any evidence to back up your claim I find this comment utterly ridiculous.
Unless you can prove otherwise except for SAYING you suffer from depression then please enlighten me?
Your profile says you are open minded and respectful.
Ive shown no disrespect at all. Just a _iew. "
You are calling people who have been diagnosed with an illness by medical professionals liars to amuse yourself. That is pretty disrespectful. |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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"How many people on here suffer with or have been treated for depression?
No such thing..
I'm really sorry but without any evidence to back up your claim I find this comment utterly ridiculous.
Unless you can prove otherwise except for SAYING you suffer from depression then please enlighten me?
Your profile says you are open minded and respectful.
Ive shown no disrespect at all. Just a _iew. "
have a look at the NHS website regarding clinical depression. One form of depression |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
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"How many people on here suffer with or have been treated for depression?
No such thing..
I'm really sorry but without any evidence to back up your claim I find this comment utterly ridiculous.
Unless you can prove otherwise except for SAYING you suffer from depression then please enlighten me?
Your profile says you are open minded and respectful.
Ive shown no disrespect at all. Just a _iew.
You are calling people who have been diagnosed with an illness by medical professionals liars to amuse yourself. That is pretty disrespectful."
that is all he is doing. I would assume he doesn't understand. Let's ignore him  |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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So you don't believe depression exists. You must be one of the lucky ones who have not suffered nor had family or friends that have suffered. To just dismiss that it exists shows a total lack of empathy for anyone. Maybe one day karma will bite!! |
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By *ENDAROOSCouple
over a year ago
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"How many people on here suffer with or have been treated for depression?
No such thing..
I'm really sorry but without any evidence to back up your claim I find this comment utterly ridiculous.
Unless you can prove otherwise except for SAYING you suffer from depression then please enlighten me?
Your profile says you are open minded and respectful.
Ive shown no disrespect at all. Just a _iew. "
I think you are poking the hornets nest just for the fun of it rather than because you have an actual point of _iew.
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By (user no longer on site)
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"How many people on here suffer with or have been treated for depression?
No such thing..
I'm really sorry but without any evidence to back up your claim I find this comment utterly ridiculous.
Unless you can prove otherwise except for SAYING you suffer from depression then please enlighten me?
Your profile says you are open minded and respectful.
Ive shown no disrespect at all. Just a _iew.
have a look at the NHS website regarding clinical depression. One form of depression "
That's exactly what the shrink diagnosed me with 'clinical depression' I guess this no it all who is reluctant to back up his claims knows better than the experts in the field...  |
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Not depression
However I once suffered from burnout syndrome
Was working full time . Doing a full time degree plus placement and 2 voluntary positions
And not forgetting running a home and being a father
Was a terrible time and wouldn't wish it on anyone
Think the key to recovery is lots of me time . Support from loved ones and the realisation that doing a degree and working full time isn't bloody advisable |
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I'm involved and volunteering at mental health support organization. There is not only people suffering depression but also every kind of mental issue problems.
If anyone is suffering from mental health, please seek and ask for help. Please do not suffer quietly. |
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"Not depression
However I once suffered from burnout syndrome
Was working full time . Doing a full time degree plus placement and 2 voluntary positions
And not forgetting running a home and being a father
Was a terrible time and wouldn't wish it on anyone
Think the key to recovery is lots of me time . Support from loved ones and the realisation that doing a degree and working full time isn't bloody advisable "
that was a lot of responsibility |
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"How many people on here suffer with or have been treated for depression?
No such thing..
I'm really sorry but without any evidence to back up your claim I find this comment utterly ridiculous.
Unless you can prove otherwise except for SAYING you suffer from depression then please enlighten me? "
Mate it says on your profile "has an open mind"  |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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If you go on the NHS website it clearly lists "clinical depression" as an illness.
I don't suffer from it and never have but I know people who have, including members of my own family and it can be a very, very debilitating illness |
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By *inaTitzTV/TS
over a year ago
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" To just dismiss that it exists shows a total lack of empathy for anyone. Maybe one day karma will bite!!"
It shall when he sees his premiums when his renewal form for FORUM INSURANCE comes in. |
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"How many people on here suffer with or have been treated for depression?
No such thing..
Care to share why?
I think its because there is no medical diagnosis of depression, it comes under anxiety and stuff. I think...."
well you thought wrong |
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"Not depression
However I once suffered from burnout syndrome
Was working full time . Doing a full time degree plus placement and 2 voluntary positions
And not forgetting running a home and being a father
Was a terrible time and wouldn't wish it on anyone
Think the key to recovery is lots of me time . Support from loved ones and the realisation that doing a degree and working full time isn't bloody advisable
that was a lot of responsibility "
It certainly was . The job I do is also very mentally and emotionally draining which didn't help
Can't describe the feelings you have when you get burn out and it's very close to depression
When someone says you'll burn yourself out you just laugh and say yeh all-right
Only when I went to the doctors and explained my feelings did she point out the obvious
For anyone who works in a caring or stressful occupation look at the symptoms for burn out syndrome
Absolute vital to be aware of |
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"Don't abuse people for having a different opinion than you  "
if he had an opinion on it he could have voiced it and proved it doesn't exist We aren't talking about unicorns and their existence here |
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"Not depression
However I once suffered from burnout syndrome
Was working full time . Doing a full time degree plus placement and 2 voluntary positions
And not forgetting running a home and being a father
Was a terrible time and wouldn't wish it on anyone
Think the key to recovery is lots of me time . Support from loved ones and the realisation that doing a degree and working full time isn't bloody advisable
that was a lot of responsibility
It certainly was . The job I do is also very mentally and emotionally draining which didn't help
Can't describe the feelings you have when you get burn out and it's very close to depression
When someone says you'll burn yourself out you just laugh and say yeh all-right
Only when I went to the doctors and explained my feelings did she point out the obvious
For anyone who works in a caring or stressful occupation look at the symptoms for burn out syndrome
Absolute vital to be aware of "
the problem is you don't see it coming the same as depression |
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I get where you guys are coming from who say "don't bite", but how would people react if someone in a wheelchair was posting and another poster said "your disability doesn't exist". There would be uproar and quite rightly so.
Mental illness is no different to physical illness. It need tolerance and understanding. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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When you pitch a _iew against 'text book stuff' which has made references to in depth clinical studies published in British medical journals so it has been peer re_iewed and given the nod of approval by experts in the field of neuroscience... I'll go with the side of the paid professionals, experts and intellectuals thanks.
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"Not depression
However I once suffered from burnout syndrome
Was working full time . Doing a full time degree plus placement and 2 voluntary positions
And not forgetting running a home and being a father
Was a terrible time and wouldn't wish it on anyone
Think the key to recovery is lots of me time . Support from loved ones and the realisation that doing a degree and working full time isn't bloody advisable
that was a lot of responsibility
It certainly was . The job I do is also very mentally and emotionally draining which didn't help
Can't describe the feelings you have when you get burn out and it's very close to depression
When someone says you'll burn yourself out you just laugh and say yeh all-right
Only when I went to the doctors and explained my feelings did she point out the obvious
For anyone who works in a caring or stressful occupation look at the symptoms for burn out syndrome
Absolute vital to be aware of
the problem is you don't see it coming the same as depression "
Until it hits you like a train |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"I get where you guys are coming from who say "don't bite", but how would people react if someone in a wheelchair was posting and another poster said "your disability doesn't exist". There would be uproar and quite rightly so.
Mental illness is no different to physical illness. It need tolerance and understanding. "
True, pretty hard to not get touchy about an illness that nearly killed you. But it's a time out from the forums if we don't follow the rules |
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By *ugby 123Couple
over a year ago
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"Don't abuse people for having a different opinion than you
if he had an opinion on it he could have voiced it and proved it doesn't exist We aren't talking about unicorns and their existence here"
That is your _iew. The man is allowed his without people abusing him and why I reminded people of the rules.
Please ignore my post if it doesn't apply to you |
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By (user no longer on site)
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I'm so pleased to hear my attempts at suicide, self hatred and disgust, self harm, self destruction and physical reactions to getting out of bed including vomiting and fainting don't exist.
Yes-it is all in my head and that's the point. It's a mental illness.
And I am currently winning right now thanks to all the lovely people I am so privileged to have in my life and I hope everyone else who suffers finds peace too.
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By (user no longer on site)
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I'm very lucky and take life as it comes, I will always find a positive from a negative, Donna had a bout of post natal depression, scary stuff to watch and not easy to deal with having never seen it before, I sympathise with anyone who lives with depression on a daily basis |
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You may be joking when you say 'no such thing' or you may be serious. Which it is does not matter. There is enough stigma surrounding mental health out there already without comments like this adding to it. Additionally it is comments such as that which prevent people seeking help.
Let me educate you as I am all about public service to those in need. Your brain is a delicate balance of chemicals. Every sensation you get is a product of these chemical signals. When some one has depression these chemicals are not balanced and it affects the persons life in a major way. Depending on the severity from loss of weight (or gain), problems sleeping, concentrating to feeling physically slowed down. This physically happens as well with sever depression peoples breathing and heart rate slow right down, some people even stop digesting food. All down to those chemical signals fact. Another fact is that stress causes depression because your 'clever' brain, the same one that helped you type your unhelpful comment, produces a factor that protects your brain neurons. When you get stressed your brain stops producing this factor (again fact) and the chemical which helps you to face down saber-toothed white van men is toxic to these neurons. This means that the area of the brain which produces those happy chemical signals die off. This is why it takes anti-depressants 6-12 weeks to work because (and brain scans confirm this) this is how long it takes for these areas of the brain to regenerate and start receiving these signals again. Depression does exist it is a scientific fact that you can't dispute any more than you can than asthma exist. So perhaps you should thank your brain that you are lucky enough not have experienced any of the things I have taken the time to educate you about and use it to think before you say 'unhelpful' unfounded stuff again. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"I get where you guys are coming from who say "don't bite", but how would people react if someone in a wheelchair was posting and another poster said "your disability doesn't exist". There would be uproar and quite rightly so.
Mental illness is no different to physical illness. It need tolerance and understanding.
True, pretty hard to not get touchy about an illness that nearly killed you. But it's a time out from the forums if we don't follow the rules "
True.....I will be good....I promise   |
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By *ENDAROOSCouple
over a year ago
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"I'm so pleased to hear my attempts at suicide, self hatred and disgust, self harm, self destruction and physical reactions to getting out of bed including vomiting and fainting don't exist.
Yes-it is all in my head and that's the point. It's a mental illness.
And I am currently winning right now thanks to all the lovely people I am so privileged to have in my life and I hope everyone else who suffers finds peace too.
crystal"
I admire and love your honesty xx |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Don't abuse people for having a different opinion than you
if he had an opinion on it he could have voiced it and proved it doesn't exist We aren't talking about unicorns and their existence here
That is your _iew. The man is allowed his without people abusing him and why I reminded people of the rules.
Please ignore my post if it doesn't apply to you "
People were just giving their _iew of him.  |
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"You may be joking when you say 'no such thing' or you may be serious. Which it is does not matter. There is enough stigma surrounding mental health out there already without comments like this adding to it. Additionally it is comments such as that which prevent people seeking help.
Let me educate you as I am all about public service to those in need. Your brain is a delicate balance of chemicals. Every sensation you get is a product of these chemical signals. When some one has depression these chemicals are not balanced and it affects the persons life in a major way. Depending on the severity from loss of weight (or gain), problems sleeping, concentrating to feeling physically slowed down. This physically happens as well with sever depression peoples breathing and heart rate slow right down, some people even stop digesting food. All down to those chemical signals fact. Another fact is that stress causes depression because your 'clever' brain, the same one that helped you type your unhelpful comment, produces a factor that protects your brain neurons. When you get stressed your brain stops producing this factor (again fact) and the chemical which helps you to face down saber-toothed white van men is toxic to these neurons. This means that the area of the brain which produces those happy chemical signals die off. This is why it takes anti-depressants 6-12 weeks to work because (and brain scans confirm this) this is how long it takes for these areas of the brain to regenerate and start receiving these signals again. Depression does exist it is a scientific fact that you can't dispute any more than you can than asthma exist. So perhaps you should thank your brain that you are lucky enough not have experienced any of the things I have taken the time to educate you about and use it to think before you say 'unhelpful' unfounded stuff again. "
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By (user no longer on site)
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you up when he's down? Nice to have someone who understands
We both have our demons. crystal is bipolar and I an currently being diagnosed/treated for an anxiety disorder that has plagued me to varying degrees.
We do hold each other up but fuck me it's horrendous when we both crash
Fair play to ye. It must be tough going when ye are both down? J x "
Tough is an understatement. I think unless you suffer with anxiety it is hard to comprehend how debilitating it can be. The most simple things can be overwhelming. One of crystal's coping mechanisms is to socialise at my worst I am capable of being in tears at the thought of going to my favourite club night with some of my best friends. However you look at it that is a potentially toxic contradiction. The flip side is that when we are both up it's amazing how we feed off each other. And most of the time we subconsciously give each other the encouragement and/or support we need. |
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By *ugby 123Couple
over a year ago
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"Don't abuse people for having a different opinion than you
if he had an opinion on it he could have voiced it and proved it doesn't exist We aren't talking about unicorns and their existence here
That is your _iew. The man is allowed his without people abusing him and why I reminded people of the rules.
Please ignore my post if it doesn't apply to you
People were just giving their _iew of him. "
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"How many people on here suffer with or have been treated for depression?
No such thing.. "
We are waiting for your pearl of wisdom. Surely you must have something to back up your claim.......tumble rolls by |
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By *B9 QueenWoman
over a year ago
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My doctor tried to convince me I had depression and even wanted to prescribe tablets for me. I wasn't depressed. I was grieving. My father had just died.
Depression is a whole different ball game. A friend of mine has had periodic bouts and it is utterly debilitating. She has, in the past, been so bad that she checked herself into a psychi unit. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"How many people on here suffer with or have been treated for depression? "
Yes. And I so wish there was more public awareness of this 'invisible' illness, less ignorance and less people trying to sweep it under the carpet. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Why is everyone biting? You will lose the point of your discussion, into a free for all bun fight. "
well said Ryan!
and to answer the OP's original question ~ yes I have, post natal depression which I choose to deal with through counselling instead of meds.
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By (user no longer on site)
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To the OP, whoever said 'no such thing' ignore them. Ridiculous comment and not helpful.
Quite a few ex colleagues of mine are/have suffered from depression. Ex Forces have a bit of a history of this.
All I can do is offer my sympathy and hope that you seek medical help as this is a serious issue. |
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"How many people on here suffer with or have been treated for depression?
No such thing..
Care to share why?
I think its because there is no medical diagnosis of depression, it comes under
anxiety and stuff. I think....
Yes, I was wrong.
well you thought wrong "
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By (user no longer on site)
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"I'm so pleased to hear my attempts at suicide, self hatred and disgust, self harm, self destruction and physical reactions to getting out of bed including vomiting and fainting don't exist.
Yes-it is all in my head and that's the point. It's a mental illness.
And I am currently winning right now thanks to all the lovely people I am so privileged to have in my life and I hope everyone else who suffers finds peace too.
crystal
I admire and love your honesty xx"
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By *londeCazWoman
over a year ago
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I had it towards the end of my marriage last century and again when I was off sick with my arthritis and waiting for my hip replacement in 2012 (although the painkillers masked it somewhat and I was basically just a vegetable for a few months)...I sympathise with anyone who suffers from it - fortunately my bouts with it were short term and fixable with a divorce and an operation... |
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By *ee VianteWoman
over a year ago
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"You know this could have been a good informative thread if people didn't concentrate one one post. "
It would be a good and informative thread if someone hadn't decided to be dismissive and insulting of conditions he clearly doesn't understand.
And as a general response, not directed at Ruggers:
Figures suggest that 1 in 4 people suffer from mental health problems of some description. That's an awful lot of people imagining things, and a hell of a lot more affected by them.
Just surviving day to day is a victory for many and it's a constant struggle to do just that. So of course people will be upset and insulted to be told that because it can't be seen, they are imagining it.
Nobody would dream of telling anyone who had a broken leg, "oh don't be ridiculous, just get up and walk".
Dyslexia, dyspraxia, allergies, tinnitus, autism, Asperger's and a whole host of other medical problems, some of which can be incredibly debilitating, cannot be seen but exist nonetheless.
How about next time someone posts with really bad English and says they are dyslexic, we tell them dyslexia doesn't exist and they are imagining it?
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I refuse to treat my chemical imbalance with medicines that muck around with my chemical balances. One of the side effects of anti-depressants is depression.
I was sent for therapy as a child but I found the approach so traumatic that it's personally put me off any form of psychotherapy or counselling.
It has taken me 20 years to get to the level of understanding I have about my mind. I have learnt to recognise the warning signs and communicate those clearly to those close to me. I know how to manage my suicidal moments which does still sometimes result in self harm but it hasn't gone further than that in a long time. I know that when I'm at my lowest, surrounding myself with people who make me laugh helps me to keep my chin up and kick starts the feeling good moments again.
I'm never going to be cured but I have learnt to love my bi-polar. The worse my bad times get, the better my good times become in comparison and that gives me hope and is what keeps me going.
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By *icketysplitsWoman
over a year ago
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"I had it towards the end of my marriage last century and again when I was off sick with my arthritis and waiting for my hip replacement in 2012 (although the painkillers masked it somewhat and I was basically just a vegetable for a few months)...I sympathise with anyone who suffers from it - fortunately my bouts with it were short term and fixable with a divorce and an operation..."
Situational and reactive depression is also more common than people admit but experiencing it does give SOME people a _iew of "well I got over so pull yourself together and you will too".
Our personal stock of resilience also help, or not when stocks are low.
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By *icketysplitsWoman
over a year ago
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"I refuse to treat my chemical imbalance with medicines that muck around with my chemical balances. One of the side effects of anti-depressants is depression.
I was sent for therapy as a child but I found the approach so traumatic that it's personally put me off any form of psychotherapy or counselling.
It has taken me 20 years to get to the level of understanding I have about my mind. I have learnt to recognise the warning signs and communicate those clearly to those close to me. I know how to manage my suicidal moments which does still sometimes result in self harm but it hasn't gone further than that in a long time. I know that when I'm at my lowest, surrounding myself with people who make me laugh helps me to keep my chin up and kick starts the feeling good moments again.
I'm never going to be cured but I have learnt to love my bi-polar. The worse my bad times get, the better my good times become in comparison and that gives me hope and is what keeps me going.
crystal"
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"You are a truly beautiful person x"
That just made me well up-coming from a lady who comes across as strong and resilient as you do, I take that as a huge compliment. Thank you x |
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over a year ago
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"How many people on here suffer with or have been treated for depression?
No such thing.. "
I am just curious if you think there is such a thing as anxiety and also post natal depression.
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By *icketysplitsWoman
over a year ago
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"You are a truly beautiful person x
That just made me well up-coming from a lady who comes across as strong and resilient as you do, I take that as a huge compliment. Thank you x"
Not so strong or resilient but I work on striving to be mentally well each day. Some days are better than others. Yesterday was bad, today is better and tomorrow will be whatever it will be.
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By *oxy_minxWoman
over a year ago
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"How many people on here suffer with or have been treated for depression?
No such thing.. "
WOW What a fleeting statement to make! From someone who has no idea......and no I don't either, but I have family members and try to UNDERSTAND |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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I don't suffer from depression or anxiety
But a family member has bi polar with other mental illness issues.
It's sometimes hard for the family and friends of the suffers as well. |
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By *icketysplitsWoman
over a year ago
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"I don't suffer from depression or anxiety
But a family member has bi polar with other mental illness issues.
It's sometimes hard for the family and friends of the suffers as well. "
Yes it is and that shouldn't be forgotten. We don't live in splendid isolation. I am very lucky that my sister and her husband understand and help me when I am at my lowest: I would not be alive but for her.
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You are calling people who have been diagnosed with an illness by medical professionals liars to amuse yourself. That is pretty disrespectful."
That's a bit misleading.... the 'medical professionals' bit.
The vast majority of people diagnosed with depression are diagnosed by their GP.... which when it comes to accurately diagnosing mental health issues often have as much expertise as your dentist at doing so.
A number of years back GP's were heavily criticised for not spotting the symptoms of depression and it was a huge item on the PCT/PCA agenda. Oddly there was a vast increase of depression diagnosis the following year and in the years after..... though the most many GP's initially did to increase their knowledge was read a few pamphlets.
There is now an underlying concern that too many GP's jump on the 'depression' diagnosis wagon as an easy option... and offer pills as the solution.
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"Yes, since I was 10 but I didn't acknowledge it or get treatment until I was 24. I have spent a lot of my last 24 years working to end the stigma about depression and poor mental health.
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I know what you mean; But,"fuck knows how you've managed 24!... Because "I'm stuggling like fuck at 10..."," You soldier on!!....., GodSpeed, Good on ya'h "," You have my blessings too!".
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"I refuse to treat my chemical imbalance with medicines that muck around with my chemical balances. One of the side effects of anti-depressants is depression.
I was sent for therapy as a child but I found the approach so traumatic that it's personally put me off any form of psychotherapy or counselling.
It has taken me 20 years to get to the level of understanding I have about my mind. I have learnt to recognise the warning signs and communicate those clearly to those close to me. I know how to manage my suicidal moments which does still sometimes result in self harm but it hasn't gone further than that in a long time. I know that when I'm at my lowest, surrounding myself with people who make me laugh helps me to keep my chin up and kick starts the feeling good moments again.
I'm never going to be cured but I have learnt to love my bi-polar. The worse my bad times get, the better my good times become in comparison and that gives me hope and is what keeps me going.
crystal"
INSPIRATONAL XX |
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Been scrolling through the post and notice how one dimensional everyone is.
Depression is a feeling or mood. End of. You can't tell me it's a disease or an illness and that tablets and doctors orders will help you? REALLY??
I could not post or put certain links here or I will be banned for sure, but if you want to really ban a guy for his _iew even if it is the opposite to the other hundreds on here, then go ahead..
Dont take offence to it, take it as an opinion on your thread. |
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"(I)know what you mean; But,"fuck knows how you've managed 24!... Because "I'm stuggling like fuck at 10..."," You soldier on!!(")!!....., GodSpeed,, Good on ya'h "," You have my blessings too!".
Sorry, "There should,, Have been a comma!!","At (I)" ;" Also At ("). "Sorry about the poor Grama!!!!!";...
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By *ee VianteWoman
over a year ago
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"Been scrolling through the post and notice how one dimensional everyone is.
Depression is a feeling or mood. End of. You can't tell me it's a disease or an illness and that tablets and doctors orders will help you? REALLY??
I could not post or put certain links here or I will be banned for sure, but if you want to really ban a guy for his _iew even if it is the opposite to the other hundreds on here, then go ahead..
Dont take offence to it, take it as an opinion on your thread."
Depression is an illness. It's not a "feeling" or a "mood".
People who say "Oh I feel a bit depressed today" mean they feel unhappy or sad. Depression is not feeling sad for a day or two.
Depression is a chemical imbalance. It's someone's body not working properly. And it's real, it's an illness and it can be serious.
Just because you've never felt it and can't understand, doesn't mean others don't. It doesn't mean anyone that does understand is one-dimensional. I'd say the reverse actually and that it's you that can only see things in one dimension.
Like I said, 1 in 4 people suffer from some form of mental health issue. That's a hell of a lot of people. They're all imagining it, or just a bit moody?
Mood or feeling indeed |
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By *aaLaaWoman
over a year ago
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I started having terrible black moments, becoming physically unable to leave a room because I knew I would have to speak to someone on the other side of the door. These episodes have never lasted long and I know my symptoms have always been very mild compared to other people.
I also know that I'm lucky, I know that my anaemia causes these episodes and increasing my iron levels solves them, I can physically experience the way a chemical imbalance in my body can send my otherwise perfectly healthy brain into a downward spiral. But even though there is a part of me that knows what the problem is, the low points are full of self loathing and panic.
I'm grateful that I have never suffered like others on this thread, and like other people around me in my real life. |
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By *icketysplitsWoman
over a year ago
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"Been scrolling through the post and notice how one dimensional everyone is.
Depression is a feeling or mood. End of. You can't tell me it's a disease or an illness and that tablets and doctors orders will help you? REALLY??
I could not post or put certain links here or I will be banned for sure, but if you want to really ban a guy for his _iew even if it is the opposite to the other hundreds on here, then go ahead..
Dont take offence to it, take it as an opinion on your thread."
We can't deal with a weather depression. We can try and deal with an economic depression. We can try and deal with a mental depression.
It doesn't matter that you don't believe it is a disease or illness. I experience it and the physical illness that goes with it at times. Taking medication enables me to function. Working on how I think and what has happened to me in my life is my struggle alone. Having people around who understand and a wider grouping in society who don't stigmatise me helps.
I envy your ability to be able to dismiss this feeling or mood as it means you have not experienced it. It really doesn't feel the same as normal down blues.
Long may your brain keep your moods and feelings away from the black. |
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"Been scrolling through the post and notice how one dimensional everyone is.
Depression is a feeling or mood. End of. You can't tell me it's a disease or an illness and that tablets and doctors orders will help you? REALLY??
I could not post or put certain links here or I will be banned for sure, but if you want to really ban a guy for his _iew even if it is the opposite to the other hundreds on here, then go ahead..
Dont take offence to it, take it as an opinion on your thread.
Depression is an illness. It's not a "feeling" or a "mood".
People who say "Oh I feel a bit depressed today" mean they feel unhappy or sad. Depression is not feeling sad for a day or two.
Depression is a chemical imbalance. It's someone's body not working properly. And it's real, it's an illness and it can be serious.
Just because you've never felt it and can't understand, doesn't mean others don't. It doesn't mean anyone that does understand is one-dimensional. I'd say the reverse actually and that it's you that can only see things in one dimension.
Like I said, 1 in 4 people suffer from some form of mental health issue. That's a hell of a lot of people. They're all imagining it, or just a bit moody?
Mood or feeling indeed "
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"Been scrolling through the post and notice how one dimensional everyone is.
Depression is a feeling or mood. End of. You can't tell me it's a disease or an illness and that tablets and doctors orders will help you? REALLY??
I could not post or put certain links here or I will be banned for sure, but if you want to really ban a guy for his _iew even if it is the opposite to the other hundreds on here, then go ahead..
Dont take offence to it, take it as an opinion on your thread."
No offence taken but sadly you are wrong. Depression is a recognised clinical illness that many people suffer from and you obviously haven't so your one of the lucky ones!!
Ps I'd spell check your profile too as your rant about spelling makes you look very stupid when you then go on to make a spelling mistake after it. No offence meant |
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"Been scrolling through the post and notice how one dimensional everyone is.
Depression is a feeling or mood. End of. You can't tell me it's a disease or an illness and that tablets and doctors orders will help you? REALLY??
I could not post or put certain links here or I will be banned for sure, but if you want to really ban a guy for his _iew even if it is the opposite to the other hundreds on here, then go ahead..
Dont take offence to it, take it as an opinion on your thread."
Ill informed opinion, such as yours, causes great offence to many sufferers and their families. You clearly have no insight to the harm that such _iews can cause.
You seem to think you are more qualified than, lets say, the NICE panel responsible for drawing up the guidelines for managing depression. So what medical school did you attend?
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By *icketysplitsWoman
over a year ago
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"Been scrolling through the post and notice how one dimensional everyone is.
Depression is a feeling or mood. End of. You can't tell me it's a disease or an illness and that tablets and doctors orders will help you? REALLY??
I could not post or put certain links here or I will be banned for sure, but if you want to really ban a guy for his _iew even if it is the opposite to the other hundreds on here, then go ahead..
Dont take offence to it, take it as an opinion on your thread.
Ill informed opinion, such as yours, causes great offence to many sufferers and their families. You clearly have no insight to the harm that such _iews can cause.
You seem to think you are more qualified than, lets say, the NICE panel responsible for drawing up the guidelines for managing depression. So what medical school did you attend?
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I have been thinking about the post you have quoted overnight. Yes, the _iews are a little one dimensional but I think that the reasons for this are that those with no experience of depression don't bother to say they have never experienced it AND those that share the posters _iews know not to expose their scepticism on such a thread as this.
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You are calling people who have been diagnosed with an illness by medical professionals liars to amuse yourself. That is pretty disrespectful.
That's a bit misleading.... the 'medical professionals' bit.
The vast majority of people diagnosed with depression are diagnosed by their GP.... which when it comes to accurately diagnosing mental health issues often have as much expertise as your dentist at doing so.
A number of years back GP's were heavily criticised for not spotting the symptoms of depression and it was a huge item on the PCT/PCA agenda. Oddly there was a vast increase of depression diagnosis the following year and in the years after..... though the most many GP's initially did to increase their knowledge was read a few pamphlets.
There is now an underlying concern that too many GP's jump on the 'depression' diagnosis wagon as an easy option... and offer pills as the solution.
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Now doctors do a rotation in psychiatry which gives them more insight than your average dentist. I agree that offering pills is not the only or best option long term but in order for people to be receptive to psychological therapies many need their mood lifting a little first with pills. Many GP's use tools which have been verified for the accuracy in diagnosising depression and anxiety through RCT's; such as the becks scale. If you are talking about diagnostic overshadowing then people with mental illness are far more likely to have a physical illness blamed on their mental health than some one be diagnosed with a mental health problem wrongly.
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By *litterbabeWoman
over a year ago
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"I refuse to treat my chemical imbalance with medicines that muck around with my chemical balances. One of the side effects of anti-depressants is depression.
I was sent for therapy as a child but I found the approach so traumatic that it's personally put me off any form of psychotherapy or counselling.
It has taken me 20 years to get to the level of understanding I have about my mind. I have learnt to recognise the warning signs and communicate those clearly to those close to me. I know how to manage my suicidal moments which does still sometimes result in self harm but it hasn't gone further than that in a long time. I know that when I'm at my lowest, surrounding myself with people who make me laugh helps me to keep my chin up and kick starts the feeling good moments again.
I'm never going to be cured but I have learnt to love my bi-polar. The worse my bad times get, the better my good times become in comparison and that gives me hope and is what keeps me going.
crystal"
I'm in awe of your strength and honesty. |
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