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By (user no longer on site) OP     over a year ago

On here, its not particularly difficult to think of what you'd like to say to those you're messaging (getting a reply is an entirely different matter of course), and of course its never hard to tell them 'I fancy you' because, this being a swinging site, they're almost certainly expecting you to.

Its different when you find someone you're attracted to in person though, you can never be sure if they're spoken for, what sort of day they're having, if they'd be offended by the notion of a guy simply looking for sex. Personally, I find it much easier to talk to people about such things if I've had the chance to get to know them a little more slowly, so what I want to know is, how do others go about say, approaching a person with the idea of making a such a pass at them (and honestly, how successful are you?), and ladies, what sort of approach do you prefer?

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By *icketysplitsWoman  over a year ago

Way over Yonder, that's where I'm bound

I don't know that I know how to make a pass at someone but I chat to everyone about all sorts of things.

Queuing to get into the Natural History Museum I had a chat to the family in front of about their accent, Aunt Sally, Aston Martins and Rockabilly.

I just like men to chat about something genuine and not just leer.

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By (user no longer on site) OP     over a year ago


"I just like men to chat about something genuine and not just leer.

"

Not a Shakespeare fan then?

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By *icketysplitsWoman  over a year ago

Way over Yonder, that's where I'm bound


"I just like men to chat about something genuine and not just leer.

Not a Shakespeare fan then?"

Alzheimer's is difficult.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

I am useless at chatting someone up. Also useless at being chatted up because I don't realise that's what they are doing.

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By *icketysplitsWoman  over a year ago

Way over Yonder, that's where I'm bound


"I am useless at chatting someone up. Also useless at being chatted up because I don't realise that's what they are doing. "

I'm like that too. It's all just chatting to me.

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By (user no longer on site) OP     over a year ago


"Also useless at being chatted up because I don't realise that's what they are doing. "

Same here, I'm the kind of guy who will be having a conversation with a girl, get asked 'so what do you have planned for the evening/doing anything at the weekend?' type questions, only to eventually be on my way and suddenly think half a mile down the road 'was she making a pass at me?'. Ok so they could just be making conversation, but still, I often wonder.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

Never made the effort to try and pull a guy.. id just fail

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By *Ryan-Man  over a year ago

In Your Bush


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Queuing to get into the Natural History Museum I had a chat to the family in front of about their accent, Aunt Sally

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Bet they didn't understand?

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By *uby0000Woman  over a year ago

hertfordshire

smile and see what develops

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Also useless at being chatted up because I don't realise that's what they are doing.

Same here, I'm the kind of guy who will be having a conversation with a girl, get asked 'so what do you have planned for the evening/doing anything at the weekend?' type questions, only to eventually be on my way and suddenly think half a mile down the road 'was she making a pass at me?'. Ok so they could just be making conversation, but still, I often wonder."

Yeah that's just like me! I forever torment myself wondering what the heck people meant. I should just ask and get it over with at the time.

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By *icketysplitsWoman  over a year ago

Way over Yonder, that's where I'm bound


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Queuing to get into the Natural History Museum I had a chat to the family in front of about their accent, Aunt Sally

Bet they didn't understand?"

They did, that was point of the Aunt Sally conversation. He was surprised I knew about it and he used to play.

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By (user no longer on site) OP     over a year ago


"Also useless at being chatted up because I don't realise that's what they are doing.

Same here, I'm the kind of guy who will be having a conversation with a girl, get asked 'so what do you have planned for the evening/doing anything at the weekend?' type questions, only to eventually be on my way and suddenly think half a mile down the road 'was she making a pass at me?'. Ok so they could just be making conversation, but still, I often wonder.

Yeah that's just like me! I forever torment myself wondering what the heck people meant. I should just ask and get it over with at the time. "

I think the best answer would be 'I don't really have anything planned?', at least that way, you let them know that you might be available, and if they ARE interested, gives them another shot at making it a bit more obvious.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

I chat to any man and his dog wherever I go but never because I want their number or a date. I don't think I could

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

I talk about everything and nothing. Most guys tend to find it a relief to be able

to have a conversation about something different than sex. Much more

relaxed. From there we get to know each other a little better, which

opens ways...

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

In real life I chat to anyone and everyone.

I think nearly 30 years customer services has helped.

Online I'm not as good, you can't beat that face to face.

Nette

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

I enjoy approaching women in a social setting. I've always enjoyed it and very rarely miss the opportunity to speak to someone I fancy, unless I'm working.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Also useless at being chatted up because I don't realise that's what they are doing.

Same here, I'm the kind of guy who will be having a conversation with a girl, get asked 'so what do you have planned for the evening/doing anything at the weekend?' type questions, only to eventually be on my way and suddenly think half a mile down the road 'was she making a pass at me?'. Ok so they could just be making conversation, but still, I often wonder.

Yeah that's just like me! I forever torment myself wondering what the heck people meant. I should just ask and get it over with at the time.

I think the best answer would be 'I don't really have anything planned?', at least that way, you let them know that you might be available, and if they ARE interested, gives them another shot at making it a bit more obvious."

Good plan.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

I can't take being chatted up in real life seriously,It would'nt ever go any further so I just joke along with it and mention my massive husband

I got chatted up in Costa just before christmas,I was on my phone just as I was leaving and he said is that your husband you're texting......I said no its one of my lovers

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By (user no longer on site) OP     over a year ago


"I can't take being chatted up in real life seriously,It would'nt ever go any further so I just joke along with it and mention my massive husband "

You see though its things like that are one reason I don't like trying to chat people up face to face.

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By *risky_MareWoman  over a year ago

...Up on the Downs

I find fairly obvious when a someone is interested - they just pay you a level of attention that guys rarely do unless they are hitting on you. If I like them I will just reciprocate and encourage.

I very rarely hit on guys, but there was one incredibly sexy hunk I'd seen once before at a dance back in the summer...

I marched straight up to him with a broad grin because I could (legitimately) say 'Hello, we danced together in the rain on the South Bank!' He grinned and replied 'You're looking sexy as all hell and you know it!' and kissed me on the cheek!! Haha!

We never made out, but we became bestest playmates and go out on the town or out dancing together regularly!!

You don't often get chances like that........

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"I can't take being chatted up in real life seriously,It would'nt ever go any further so I just joke along with it and mention my massive husband

You see though its things like that are one reason I don't like trying to chat people up face to face."

I have a wedding ring on its not as though im giving out signals to be chatted up,I assume that the ring has been noticed and they're just being friendly,ill be friendly back,its just banter

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By *ce WingerMan  over a year ago

P.O. Box DE1 0NQ

I tend to observe others first before striking up a conversation. For some it's like pulling teeth and for others, it makes you want to fit them with a ball gag

Usually though, I'm pretty good at ascertaining whether a conversation is either going to end up in a bit of flirting or in a cul-de-sac

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"I am useless at chatting someone up. Also useless at being chatted up because I don't realise that's what they are doing. "

Haha same here.

It's only after when people ask me 'what's she say?' And i still don't know what they're on about.

I'm crap.

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By (user no longer on site) OP     over a year ago


"I can't take being chatted up in real life seriously,It would'nt ever go any further so I just joke along with it and mention my massive husband

You see though its things like that are one reason I don't like trying to chat people up face to face.

I have a wedding ring on its not as though im giving out signals to be chatted up,I assume that the ring has been noticed and they're just being friendly,ill be friendly back,its just banter "

Well ok, replace 'husband' with 'boyfriend', they don't come with a warning, and the sad thing is I often find the friendliest, most open girls are those who are already spoken for.

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By (user no longer on site) OP     over a year ago

Well that was a short conversation

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By *risky_MareWoman  over a year ago

...Up on the Downs

Start a new thread on sustaining a conversation perhaps??

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By (user no longer on site) OP     over a year ago

Sustaining a conversation really isn't difficult so long as you have a good topic to discuss, hence why meeting through swinging eliminates so much of that awkwardness - you both know what you're there for, so its easy to back and forth about your experiences in the scene and get to know one another that way. When you've only just met someone however (say in a bar, café or street), at that point the only thing you know about them is you like the way they look, what do you even begin talking about?

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"In real life I chat to anyone and everyone.

I think nearly 30 years customer services has helped.

Online I'm not as good, you can't beat that face to face.

Nette "

Yep that's me as well. In fact face to face I never shut up!

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By *risky_MareWoman  over a year ago

...Up on the Downs


"Sustaining a conversation really isn't difficult so long as you have a good topic to discuss, hence why meeting through swinging eliminates so much of that awkwardness - you both know what you're there for, so its easy to back and forth about your experiences in the scene and get to know one another that way. When you've only just met someone however (say in a bar, café or street), at that point the only thing you know about them is you like the way they look, what do you even begin talking about?"

Best to ask questions to find out about her. Nothing a lady likes more than a man who is actually interested in who and what she is, and then something she tells you will hopefully be interesting enough to comment on and you're off!!

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By (user no longer on site) OP     over a year ago


"Sustaining a conversation really isn't difficult so long as you have a good topic to discuss, hence why meeting through swinging eliminates so much of that awkwardness - you both know what you're there for, so its easy to back and forth about your experiences in the scene and get to know one another that way. When you've only just met someone however (say in a bar, café or street), at that point the only thing you know about them is you like the way they look, what do you even begin talking about?

Best to ask questions to find out about her. Nothing a lady likes more than a man who is actually interested in who and what she is, and then something she tells you will hopefully be interesting enough to comment on and you're off!!"

Unless of course, she suspects that you're only asking her these questions with the agenda of getting sexually/romantically involved with her, and so immediately throws barriers up by giving your questions one word answers (if she even answers them at all). Really, I think the best chance of winning her over will be if, as luck would have it, she just so happens to like you too, is pleased that you decided to make the first move - that's the gamble you have to be willing to make though.

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By *risky_MareWoman  over a year ago

...Up on the Downs


"Sustaining a conversation really isn't difficult so long as you have a good topic to discuss, hence why meeting through swinging eliminates so much of that awkwardness - you both know what you're there for, so its easy to back and forth about your experiences in the scene and get to know one another that way. When you've only just met someone however (say in a bar, café or street), at that point the only thing you know about them is you like the way they look, what do you even begin talking about?

Best to ask questions to find out about her. Nothing a lady likes more than a man who is actually interested in who and what she is, and then something she tells you will hopefully be interesting enough to comment on and you're off!!

Unless of course, she suspects that you're only asking her these questions with the agenda of getting sexually/romantically involved with her, and so immediately throws barriers up by giving your questions one word answers (if she even answers them at all). Really, I think the best chance of winning her over will be if, as luck would have it, she just so happens to like you too, is pleased that you decided to make the first move - that's the gamble you have to be willing to make though."

Oh absolutely, you're on a hiding to nothing otherwise IMO!! As I said - if I like, I reciprocate and encourage. Some ladies may be shy of course, moreso if they like you, but you should be able to see them smiling and *trying*.

The friend I mentioned above is astonishing - he compliments women left right and centre - big grin, looks straight at them 'Wow, I love your shoes' or 'Hey, you look great in that', or even 'Wow, you look sexy!' and yes, he's hot, but they fall over themselves to talk when he starts like that. Then he just asks if they're on facebook and gets the name, carries on at a later date at his leisure.....

I took a leaf out of his book once with a really smouldering guy I dance with and one day just said 'God you are so sexy!' haha - I've never said anything like that before!!

He has a gf, but every time I see him at a dance now he catches my eye and smiles, kisses me on the cheek, comes over for a chat, asks me to dance....he obviously really enjoyed being told, even if it is never acted upon, haha!

Fortune favours the bold......x

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

I have been in a relationship for more than twenty years so don't really go out with the intent of chatting someone up in a vanilla setting.

In a swinging setting, (clubs or holiday resort) it is very easy to start small chat.

I've had everything from,

-what are you drinking?

- love your shoes where idi you get them?

- love your accent, where are you from

And obviously I know (due to context) that these are ice breakers to the inevitable "wanna fuck/ shall we go/ wanna find a place?

In a vanilla setting I make small talk with ppl all the time (I feel sorry for those who sit next to me on my frequent long haul flights) and try to keep it neutral but sometimes even these chats can turn sexy...

My advice is be yourself, witty, confident, non pushy, non cocky and interesting.

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By *ENDAROOSCouple  over a year ago

South West London / Surrey

I never really did the whole making passes and pulling thing due to meeting Mr B while still at school. So I freely admit to being rubbish at it.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

In the scene we are lucky as my wife will spot a couple or single guy or girl , walk over and ask if they fancy some fun .

99% of the time we are on our way upstairs for fun within minutes .

As we only play at clubs this method is ideal

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By (user no longer on site) OP     over a year ago


"Sustaining a conversation really isn't difficult so long as you have a good topic to discuss, hence why meeting through swinging eliminates so much of that awkwardness - you both know what you're there for, so its easy to back and forth about your experiences in the scene and get to know one another that way. When you've only just met someone however (say in a bar, café or street), at that point the only thing you know about them is you like the way they look, what do you even begin talking about?

Best to ask questions to find out about her. Nothing a lady likes more than a man who is actually interested in who and what she is, and then something she tells you will hopefully be interesting enough to comment on and you're off!!

Unless of course, she suspects that you're only asking her these questions with the agenda of getting sexually/romantically involved with her, and so immediately throws barriers up by giving your questions one word answers (if she even answers them at all). Really, I think the best chance of winning her over will be if, as luck would have it, she just so happens to like you too, is pleased that you decided to make the first move - that's the gamble you have to be willing to make though.

Oh absolutely, you're on a hiding to nothing otherwise IMO!! As I said - if I like, I reciprocate and encourage. Some ladies may be shy of course, moreso if they like you, but you should be able to see them smiling and *trying*.

The friend I mentioned above is astonishing - he compliments women left right and centre - big grin, looks straight at them 'Wow, I love your shoes' or 'Hey, you look great in that', or even 'Wow, you look sexy!' and yes, he's hot, but they fall over themselves to talk when he starts like that. Then he just asks if they're on facebook and gets the name, carries on at a later date at his leisure.....

I took a leaf out of his book once with a really smouldering guy I dance with and one day just said 'God you are so sexy!' haha - I've never said anything like that before!!

He has a gf, but every time I see him at a dance now he catches my eye and smiles, kisses me on the cheek, comes over for a chat, asks me to dance....he obviously really enjoyed being told, even if it is never acted upon, haha!

Fortune favours the bold......x"

And as the saying goes

'You miss every shot you don't take'

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By *andybeachWoman  over a year ago

In the middle

I don't think I have ever tired to chat anyone up as I haven't got that sort of confidence and I am also hopeless at reading the signs if someone is trying to chat me up to, I just think they are messing around. I suppose I just don't think I am the fancying type

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By (user no longer on site) OP     over a year ago


"I don't think I have ever tired to chat anyone up as I haven't got that sort of confidence and I am also hopeless at reading the signs if someone is trying to chat me up to"

Seems a lot of people feel this way, judging from the thread?

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

And that is exactly why I tend to write for quite a while with men. Eventually, if/when we are sure that even if a spark DOESN'T happen when we meet we will have a good time anyway, we'll meet. That has as added benefit that conversation combined with body language etc makes it much easier to recognise signals for what they are.

If that makes sense. It works for me.

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By (user no longer on site) OP     over a year ago

Be nice if the weather would pick up a little, I may have even considered heading out and trying my luck.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"I can't take being chatted up in real life seriously,It would'nt ever go any further so I just joke along with it and mention my massive husband

You see though its things like that are one reason I don't like trying to chat people up face to face.

I have a wedding ring on its not as though im giving out signals to be chatted up,I assume that the ring has been noticed and they're just being friendly,ill be friendly back,its just banter

Well ok, replace 'husband' with 'boyfriend', they don't come with a warning, and the sad thing is I often find the friendliest, most open girls are those who are already spoken for."

I think the reason girls that are taken are so open and friendly is because they are mostly content and know its "safe" to chat freely without having to worry about all the things that people worry about when single and hoping that the other person fancies you as much as you fancy them,what to say or do next,who makes the first move to take it further etc

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"My advice is be yourself, witty, confident, non pushy, non cocky and interesting. "

Hmmm...

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

Just say get ya tits out

Winner

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

Relax and don't try too hard.

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By (user no longer on site) OP     over a year ago


"I can't take being chatted up in real life seriously,It would'nt ever go any further so I just joke along with it and mention my massive husband

You see though its things like that are one reason I don't like trying to chat people up face to face.

I have a wedding ring on its not as though im giving out signals to be chatted up,I assume that the ring has been noticed and they're just being friendly,ill be friendly back,its just banter

Well ok, replace 'husband' with 'boyfriend', they don't come with a warning, and the sad thing is I often find the friendliest, most open girls are those who are already spoken for.

I think the reason girls that are taken are so open and friendly is because they are mostly content and know its "safe" to chat freely without having to worry about all the things that people worry about when single and hoping that the other person fancies you as much as you fancy them,what to say or do next,who makes the first move to take it further etc "

I was thinking along pretty much the same lines, plus the fact that they're spoken for means they always have that as a 'get out' as soon as the conversation starts to turn amorous.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"I can't take being chatted up in real life seriously,It would'nt ever go any further so I just joke along with it and mention my massive husband

You see though its things like that are one reason I don't like trying to chat people up face to face.

I have a wedding ring on its not as though im giving out signals to be chatted up,I assume that the ring has been noticed and they're just being friendly,ill be friendly back,its just banter

Well ok, replace 'husband' with 'boyfriend', they don't come with a warning, and the sad thing is I often find the friendliest, most open girls are those who are already spoken for.

I think the reason girls that are taken are so open and friendly is because they are mostly content and know its "safe" to chat freely without having to worry about all the things that people worry about when single and hoping that the other person fancies you as much as you fancy them,what to say or do next,who makes the first move to take it further etc

I was thinking along pretty much the same lines, plus the fact that they're spoken for means they always have that as a 'get out' as soon as the conversation starts to turn amorous."

Yes, or it could be that women who are spoken for are also more receptive to attention in a safe environment (ie they can always get away from it due to an OH) as they lack it from their regular partner and only get a few opportunities to have this sort of attention.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"On here, its not particularly difficult to think of what you'd like to say to those you're messaging (getting a reply is an entirely different matter of course), and of course its never hard to tell them 'I fancy you' because, this being a swinging site, they're almost certainly expecting you to.

Its different when you find someone you're attracted to in person though, you can never be sure if they're spoken for, what sort of day they're having, if they'd be offended by the notion of a guy simply looking for sex. Personally, I find it much easier to talk to people about such things if I've had the chance to get to know them a little more slowly, so what I want to know is, how do others go about say, approaching a person with the idea of making a such a pass at them (and honestly, how successful are you?), and ladies, what sort of approach do you prefer?"

I think its more common than you realise. People not being confident about their approach to the opposite sex, and same sex for that matter, in the case of gay people. I (Rick) have never been able to read the signs and my chat up skills are non existent. I was at a new year eve party a few years ago, and the following day, the friends who hosted the party, were telling me that a certain lady had an enormous crush on me, and had been following me about all night, just waiting and hoping to steal a kiss at midnight. It went right over my head.

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By *oxy_minxWoman  over a year ago

Scotland - Aberdeen

In REAL life I am terrible! I always just think someone is being friendly......then I get the horrible shock, when they actually make a pass!

In here? I get the bloody fantasists, and even though I vet them carefully and may even have spoke to them for a few months, once they get ok, I'll meet you, guess what? Just like magic they disappear! No doubt I'll get the usual excuses! Like lost my internet connection and so forth, well, guess what? You can FOOK off lol

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By *ighland_RoseCouple  over a year ago

Brigadoon


"On here, its not particularly difficult to think of what you'd like to say to those you're messaging (getting a reply is an entirely different matter of course), and of course its never hard to tell them 'I fancy you' because, this being a swinging site, they're almost certainly expecting you to.

Its different when you find someone you're attracted to in person though, you can never be sure if they're spoken for, what sort of day they're having, if they'd be offended by the notion of a guy simply looking for sex. Personally, I find it much easier to talk to people about such things if I've had the chance to get to know them a little more slowly, so what I want to know is, how do others go about say, approaching a person with the idea of making a such a pass at them (and honestly, how successful are you?), and ladies, what sort of approach do you prefer?

I think its more common than you realise. People not being confident about their approach to the opposite sex, and same sex for that matter, in the case of gay people. I (Rick) have never been able to read the signs and my chat up skills are non existent. I was at a new year eve party a few years ago, and the following day, the friends who hosted the party, were telling me that a certain lady had an enormous crush on me, and had been following me about all night, just waiting and hoping to steal a kiss at midnight. It went right over my head."

This is why women need to speak out more often. Tell someone if you fancy them. Give them a compliment, everyone likes a compliment, and if it goes no further at least you put a smile on someone's face.

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By *opinovMan  over a year ago

Point Nemo, Cumbria


"I am useless at chatting someone up. Also useless at being chatted up because I don't realise that's what they are doing. "

Me too ... and oh how.

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By (user no longer on site) OP     over a year ago


"On here, its not particularly difficult to think of what you'd like to say to those you're messaging (getting a reply is an entirely different matter of course), and of course its never hard to tell them 'I fancy you' because, this being a swinging site, they're almost certainly expecting you to.

Its different when you find someone you're attracted to in person though, you can never be sure if they're spoken for, what sort of day they're having, if they'd be offended by the notion of a guy simply looking for sex. Personally, I find it much easier to talk to people about such things if I've had the chance to get to know them a little more slowly, so what I want to know is, how do others go about say, approaching a person with the idea of making a such a pass at them (and honestly, how successful are you?), and ladies, what sort of approach do you prefer?

I think its more common than you realise. People not being confident about their approach to the opposite sex, and same sex for that matter, in the case of gay people. I (Rick) have never been able to read the signs and my chat up skills are non existent. I was at a new year eve party a few years ago, and the following day, the friends who hosted the party, were telling me that a certain lady had an enormous crush on me, and had been following me about all night, just waiting and hoping to steal a kiss at midnight. It went right over my head.

This is why women need to speak out more often. Tell someone if you fancy them. Give them a compliment, everyone likes a compliment, and if it goes no further at least you put a smile on someone's face."

I think beautiful women tend to be pursued by males so often, especially on here, that they simply forget how to directly express an attraction toward men THEY like.

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