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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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Do you think it was a mistake to increase footballers wages to ridiculous proportions in modern football? Back in the 60's and very early 70's there just seemed to be more passion for the game in that era rather than the pay cheque at the end of the week. If you agree then what would you suggest happens? |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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Its kilked soccer for normal everyday fsns players do not mix with fans as they used to.
They think they are above them.
In rugby players comevin bars after games and mingle and chat with fans thats why the sport is probably most family friendly sport.
I lost interest in footy long time since when all the diving and general behaviour of players went down hill lack of respect to officials etc.
Kids see it on tv and it filters down and behaviour is mimicked.
Salaries will only increase but it is not right or justifiable. |
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Why pick on footballers when competitors in other sports earn huge sums too.
Lewis Hamilton earned 20m euros last year, the equivalent of around 400k per week. Or in a season of 19 races, just over 1m euros per race.
At the end of the day, when fans, sponsors and the media are buying into something, the people who ill ultimately get the rewards are the ones putting on the show. |
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By *nnyMan
over a year ago
Glasgow |
"Athletes from most popular sports get paid big amounts because people watch the sport and there is a demand for sports. Not much can be done"
Agreed. It's a form of voluntary taxation. If fans didn't buy tickets or merchandise, the sponsors wouldn't cough up so much money and without all that, clubs wouldn't be able to pay the wage bill. |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
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"Athletes from most popular sports get paid big amounts because people watch the sport and there is a demand for sports. Not much can be done
Agreed. It's a form of voluntary taxation. If fans didn't buy tickets or merchandise, the sponsors wouldn't cough up so much money and without all that, clubs wouldn't be able to pay the wage bill."
I'm sorry but I'm not 100% convinced about this fans coughed up to go to games in the 60's and 70's too and more people went to games back then before seating was introduced. Still the wages of the footballs were in proportion. This is why in my opinion the footballers showed more passion for the game. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Nobody think a quarter of a million a week is just obscene? Its repugnant and I can't see how it can be justified."
Yes it is a ridiculous amount for a young man to be earning but who do you suggest should get the money that is generated by them playing football. ? |
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In a world where David Cameron's hairdresser gets an MBE and success is often about connections, covert networks and hidden alliances, who you know, not how good you are. At least football offers a chance for all, you don't earn top money unless you are good, very, very good. Success is driven only by their ability. Film stars, pop stars earn huge incomes, but don't attract the same outrage..I wonder why. Maybe it's the old green eyed monster. |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
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"In a world where David Cameron's hairdresser gets an MBE and success is often about connections, covert networks and hidden alliances, who you know, not how good you are. At least football offers a chance for all, you don't earn top money unless you are good, very, very good. Success is driven only by their ability. Film stars, pop stars earn huge incomes, but don't attract the same outrage..I wonder why. Maybe it's the old green eyed monster."
I'm not questioning the salaries but more the passion for the game for most pro footballers and questioning if indeed its the salary and not the game they worry about. |
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By *nnyMan
over a year ago
Glasgow |
"Athletes from most popular sports get paid big amounts because people watch the sport and there is a demand for sports. Not much can be done
Agreed. It's a form of voluntary taxation. If fans didn't buy tickets or merchandise, the sponsors wouldn't cough up so much money and without all that, clubs wouldn't be able to pay the wage bill.
I'm sorry but I'm not 100% convinced about this fans coughed up to go to games in the 60's and 70's too and more people went to games back then before seating was introduced. Still the wages of the footballs were in proportion. This is why in my opinion the footballers showed more passion for the game. "
If its not from tickets, merchandise or sponsorship (incl tv money), where is the money to pay the wages coming from?
BTW. It ain't just sport. Look at movie and music industry wages. |
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By *ngelbiTVTV/TS
over a year ago
Dyserth, North Wales |
They play the football that attracts mega bucks money from TV and merchandising. If they didn't get it, the football clubs would.
Footballers (for their faults) generally are very charitable people. Alot of them have charitable foundations, training camps in under privileged areas.
Nobody argues about what bankers earn. In the 80s boxing was a very big money sport with purses going into £millions.
After all the crap we put up with, footballers & football gives pleasure to alot of people at the weekend. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Athletes from most popular sports get paid big amounts because people watch the sport and there is a demand for sports. Not much can be done
Agreed. It's a form of voluntary taxation. If fans didn't buy tickets or merchandise, the sponsors wouldn't cough up so much money and without all that, clubs wouldn't be able to pay the wage bill.
I'm sorry but I'm not 100% convinced about this fans coughed up to go to games in the 60's and 70's too and more people went to games back then before seating was introduced. Still the wages of the footballs were in proportion. This is why in my opinion the footballers showed more passion for the game. "
Back in the. 70's the directors took all the money and we were forced to watch football in shithole death traps. |
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"In a world where David Cameron's hairdresser gets an MBE and success is often about connections, covert networks and hidden alliances, who you know, not how good you are. At least football offers a chance for all, you don't earn top money unless you are good, very, very good. Success is driven only by their ability. Film stars, pop stars earn huge incomes, but don't attract the same outrage..I wonder why. Maybe it's the old green eyed monster.
I'm not questioning the salaries but more the passion for the game for most pro footballers and questioning if indeed its the salary and not the game they worry about."
Sorry, but think you have a highly idealistic view . Read any history of football, professionals, especially in the days of limited wages, had a particularly healthy interest in money, and with good reason. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Why pick on footballers when competitors in other sports earn huge sums too.
Lewis Hamilton earned 20m euros last year, the equivalent of around 400k per week. Or in a season of 19 races, just over 1m euros per race.
At the end of the day, when fans, sponsors and the media are buying into something, the people who ill ultimately get the rewards are the ones putting on the show. "
Footballers pay tax too...
If you're a good footballer 9 times out of ten you'll be spotted so you get more of the rags to riches stories, Most formula one and race drivers in general come from wealthy families to start with so say 1 in 10 get a look in if they're lucky. The TV revenue for these sports are huge. Neither are long term careers and both are judged in the main by natural ability. How much are blockbuster movie stars paid, bankers? The list could go on.
Does other peoples wealth make us poorer? |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
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"In a world where David Cameron's hairdresser gets an MBE and success is often about connections, covert networks and hidden alliances, who you know, not how good you are. At least football offers a chance for all, you don't earn top money unless you are good, very, very good. Success is driven only by their ability. Film stars, pop stars earn huge incomes, but don't attract the same outrage..I wonder why. Maybe it's the old green eyed monster.
I'm not questioning the salaries but more the passion for the game for most pro footballers and questioning if indeed its the salary and not the game they worry about.
Sorry, but think you have a highly idealistic view . Read any history of football, professionals, especially in the days of limited wages, had a particularly healthy interest in money, and with good reason."
This started to creep in towards the latter of the 70's early 80's with Bestie and the like. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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I still think this should be capped and the amount of overseas players in a squad be capped.
The agents are the worst though as they will try to sell the clients to anyone who will take them behind the clubs back and they do nothing to help educate the footballers that have all this money and are detached form reality who think they can get away with blue murder as they feel untouchable. |
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By *nnyMan
over a year ago
Glasgow |
"Why pick on footballers when competitors in other sports earn huge sums too.
Lewis Hamilton earned 20m euros last year, the equivalent of around 400k per week. Or in a season of 19 races, just over 1m euros per race.
At the end of the day, when fans, sponsors and the media are buying into something, the people who ill ultimately get the rewards are the ones putting on the show.
Footballers pay tax too...
If you're a good footballer 9 times out of ten you'll be spotted so you get more of the rags to riches stories, Most formula one and race drivers in general come from wealthy families to start with so say 1 in 10 get a look in if they're lucky. The TV revenue for these sports are huge. Neither are long term careers and both are judged in the main by natural ability. How much are blockbuster movie stars paid, bankers? The list could go on.
Does other peoples wealth make us poorer? "
Footballers DO pay tax but often through the sort of limited company arrangements their pimps, sorry agents, have set up for them. |
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By *abioMan
over a year ago
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"Why pick on footballers when competitors in other sports earn huge sums too.
Lewis Hamilton earned 20m euros last year, the equivalent of around 400k per week. Or in a season of 19 races, just over 1m euros per race.
At the end of the day, when fans, sponsors and the media are buying into something, the people who ill ultimately get the rewards are the ones putting on the show.
Footballers pay tax too...
If you're a good footballer 9 times out of ten you'll be spotted so you get more of the rags to riches stories, Most formula one and race drivers in general come from wealthy families to start with so say 1 in 10 get a look in if they're lucky. The TV revenue for these sports are huge. Neither are long term careers and both are judged in the main by natural ability. How much are blockbuster movie stars paid, bankers? The list could go on.
Does other peoples wealth make us poorer? "
and lewis hamilton for the purposes of tax lives in switzerland.... so where the rich footballers live here and pay here... the rich race drivers live in switzerland... or monaco.....
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"In a world where David Cameron's hairdresser gets an MBE and success is often about connections, covert networks and hidden alliances, who you know, not how good you are. At least football offers a chance for all, you don't earn top money unless you are good, very, very good. Success is driven only by their ability. Film stars, pop stars earn huge incomes, but don't attract the same outrage..I wonder why. Maybe it's the old green eyed monster.
I'm not questioning the salaries but more the passion for the game for most pro footballers and questioning if indeed its the salary and not the game they worry about.
Sorry, but think you have a highly idealistic view . Read any history of football, professionals, especially in the days of limited wages, had a particularly healthy interest in money, and with good reason.
This started to creep in towards the latter of the 70's early 80's with Bestie and the like."
No..read the history....Professional footballers, certainly since Edwardian times have been deeply aware of their wages. It was an escape from mines, shipbuilding, agricultural labouring. They generated huge amounts of money, that was never reflected in their paychecks. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"In a world where David Cameron's hairdresser gets an MBE and success is often about connections, covert networks and hidden alliances, who you know, not how good you are. At least football offers a chance for all, you don't earn top money unless you are good, very, very good. Success is driven only by their ability. Film stars, pop stars earn huge incomes, but don't attract the same outrage..I wonder why. Maybe it's the old green eyed monster."
life and success have always been about who you know not what you know.
the best jobs are never advertised but spread by word of mouth.
do i think that Messi signing a new contract for over £700,000 a WEEK is abhorant? yes.
but there is money in the game, an abundance of it, and why should the chairmen/owner get rich from it?
the ticket prices will not go down (its said that the league money increase that has been introduced into the game this season, every club could let in fans for nothing and wouldnt lose a penny)
its like when the government says tax cheats cost us all, its bollocks cuz our tax bill wouldnt drop.
so let the players enjoy it while it lasts. its a 15 year career, if they are lucky.
all power to them |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Do you think it was a mistake to increase footballers wages to ridiculous proportions in modern football? Back in the 60's and very early 70's there just seemed to be more passion for the game in that era rather than the pay cheque at the end of the week. If you agree then what would you suggest happens? "
i am content with my lot in life including my job and my salary therefore i couldnt care less if they pay someone x y or z for playing football.
i know one thing some clubs in the premiership are living way beyond their means and their business plans are not based on sustainable business models such as west ham who pay out more in players wages than they earn from their revenue streams at the last estimate it was 115% wages to their gdp (deloitte) |
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By *eavenNhellCouple
over a year ago
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think the more obscene thing is CEOs of major company's awarding themselves massive pay rises whilst there employees who actually earn them the profits in the first place are paid a pittance and forced to claim benefits to top up their wages to live .far more obscene than any sportstar getting paid for entertaining the paying punter . |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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Continuing from the other thread that they are over payed, they should all give up a weeks wage to give to charities, it could be well over a billion and it could help many. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Continuing from the other thread that they are over payed, they should all give up a weeks wage to give to charities, it could be well over a billion and it could help many."
Why exactly? You're referencing he elite, the top players only. Should a player in league 1/2 have to give up a weeks salary also? They do a job, they get paid for it, end of story.
I was a semi-pro but the fact is I wasn't committed enough to turn pro... I knew my limitations would have taken me to L1 at best so chose a different career... but I know enough players who are still in the game and earning on average £35k-£40k a year.
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"Continuing from the other thread that they are over payed, they should all give up a weeks wage to give to charities, it could be well over a billion and it could help many.
Why exactly? You're referencing he elite, the top players only. Should a player in league 1/2 have to give up a weeks salary also? They do a job, they get paid for it, end of story.
I was a semi-pro but the fact is I wasn't committed enough to turn pro... I knew my limitations would have taken me to L1 at best so chose a different career... but I know enough players who are still in the game and earning on average £35k-£40k a year.
" Yes, more the elite ones that makes more and yeah that is right, there are still some footballers that gets a normal wage too. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Continuing from the other thread that they are over payed, they should all give up a weeks wage to give to charities, it could be well over a billion and it could help many.
Why exactly? You're referencing he elite, the top players only. Should a player in league 1/2 have to give up a weeks salary also? They do a job, they get paid for it, end of story.
I was a semi-pro but the fact is I wasn't committed enough to turn pro... I knew my limitations would have taken me to L1 at best so chose a different career... but I know enough players who are still in the game and earning on average £35k-£40k a year.
Yes, more the elite ones that makes more and yeah that is right, there are still some footballers that gets a normal wage too."
Personally I'd like to see a club changes its policy so 10% of all agents fees get paid to a charity local to that club |
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It's the most watched sport. So like a Hollywood star , the more people who want to see them the richer they will get. Modern football is entertainment. These are the best hundred or so players in the world, and since football is played by over a billion people only 0.0000001 % get paid well. |
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