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By *aravancouple OP Man
over a year ago
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On every channel now it seems like its a charity 24/7 ad campaign. 
My grandkids would like to watch there cartoon without being bombarded by these adds 20 times in 30 minutes. 
What annoys me is that they don't ask for a one off donation of whatever you can afford, you have to pay X amount every month for how ever long.  |
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By *inaTitzTV/TS
over a year ago
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"do transvestites need charity? "
Do you know I've only got 3 bras? You could save a girlys' night out by signing up for £5 a month. If enough peeps do this I can buy more bras, more leopard print and go to more events.
Feel free to sponsor a TV from Mansfield.  |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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Its that time of year innit? Surprised there's still so many of them around but I did notice a huge increase in charity adverts over the festive season to take advantage of your sentimentality. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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I have mixed feelings about the subject….
On one hand I think it’s such a shame the need for these saturation type advertising campaigns still falls someway short of meeting the target of helping those in dire straits ….
But on the other hand, I do feel the understandable apathy created by the constant bombardment of those same saturation type advertising campaigns does become counter productive…..
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By (user no longer on site)
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The images are ever more harrowing, which is having the unfortunate effect of making me ever more cynical.
Starving children photo's? there is no need of it, if there is mass starvation then there needs to be a cause, a drought or a war, some form of event that leads to a problem, if there is just no food don't have the children in the first place  What happened to all the men we taught to fish rather than giving them a fish? and why the hell did we need to teach them in the first place? their ancestors have lived there for centuries and know hunting / fishing better than I do??
The walking miles to fetch dirty water advert gets me riled, that is a remake of an advert from the 70's with the same story, I have been paying into another water aid charity for years, but that advert has made me want to stop paying.
WHY you may ask... because it's obviously pointless 30 years on the job and nothing has been achieved, all that is needed is a drilling rig, a length of plastic pipe and a pump at strategic points... hell you can do the job with a shovel and some clay bricks baked in the sun if you don't have technology on your side
Sorry but it is Thursday, and the apparent futility of giving to these charities is getting me down. I think the current trend of monthly donations in perpetuity is an acceptance that the problems will never be solved, so all we can do is give up |
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By *nnyMan
over a year ago
Glasgow |
Maybe the answer is to ensure that any water provided is mixed with a chemical contraceptive.
So long as people keep having children they can't afford and can't feed, water, clothe, house or employ, things will only get worse. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Maybe the answer is to ensure that any water provided is mixed with a chemical contraceptive.
So long as people keep having children they can't afford and can't feed, water, clothe, house or employ, things will only get worse."
didn't hitler do something similar ? |
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By *nnyMan
over a year ago
Glasgow |
"Maybe the answer is to ensure that any water provided is mixed with a chemical contraceptive.
So long as people keep having children they can't afford and can't feed, water, clothe, house or employ, things will only get worse.
didn't hitler do something similar ?"
Did they have chemical contraception in the 30s/ 40s? |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Maybe the answer is to ensure that any water provided is mixed with a chemical contraceptive.
So long as people keep having children they can't afford and can't feed, water, clothe, house or employ, things will only get worse."
Oooh the politically correct lefties will be on your case with an answer like that. However it's not far from the truth.  |
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By *nnyMan
over a year ago
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"Maybe the answer is to ensure that any water provided is mixed with a chemical contraceptive.
So long as people keep having children they can't afford and can't feed, water, clothe, house or employ, things will only get worse.
Oooh the politically correct lefties will be on your case with an answer like that. However it's not far from the truth. "
With a bit of luck I'll manage to piss off the Vatican too. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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Are charities ruining tv...
grammar sorted.
My concern is that the same countries need help... No changes in my lifetime...
Where does the £ go...
Didn't sting get ripped off by a rainforest charity??/ |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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All charities are a con/rip of merchants...
I used to work within the charity organisation what was set up to help the elderly..AgeUK..
And all the shop managers received a news stating that the shop profits need to increase,but the only reason why the profits had to increase was,they was going to give the Area Managers a pay rise,and also some of the people in head office needed to have better company cars..Charities make me sick.. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"On every channel now it seems like its a charity 24/7 ad campaign.
My grandkids would like to watch there cartoon without being bombarded by these adds 20 times in 30 minutes.
What annoys me is that they don't ask for a one off donation of whatever you can afford, you have to pay X amount every month for how ever long. "
They must need £1 of the £2 per month sent to them for advertising costs.  |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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they arent ruining tv for me, because i largely ignore them now.
they all bleat the same thing.
such and such kid somewhere in the universe has to do something we take for granted, and its hardship for them, so if i part with a small amount of cash, they will make life easier for them.
they must think im stupid.
build a well in a village?
why not build an Aldi?
we have to walk 5 miles to water
well move 4 miles closer to the water, its not like you live in a 3 bed semi, just rebuild your shack nearer to places you need to be.
im not hard hearted, and i dont ignore the ills of the world, but particularly in africa and the like, things havent changed for generations, and its because the country cant, or wont, help themselves.
dont see many presidents from these countries walking 5 miles for water. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"they arent ruining tv for me, because i largely ignore them now.
they all bleat the same thing.
such and such kid somewhere in the universe has to do something we take for granted, and its hardship for them, so if i part with a small amount of cash, they will make life easier for them.
they must think im stupid.
build a well in a village?
why not build an Aldi?
we have to walk 5 miles to water
well move 4 miles closer to the water, its not like you live in a 3 bed semi, just rebuild your shack nearer to places you need to be.
im not hard hearted, and i dont ignore the ills of the world, but particularly in africa and the like, things havent changed for generations, and its because the country cant, or wont, help themselves.
dont see many presidents from these countries walking 5 miles for water."
Africa isn't a country
And it's not a matter of won't help themselves it's cant....theres corruption all around from the multinational companies to its leaders.. When you have 10 billion flowing out of Zambia in copper exports but only 50 million in taxes was paid you know something is wrong. Many copanies take advantage of Africas resources |
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By (user no longer on site)
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Africa isn't a country
And it's not a matter of won't help themselves it's cant....theres corruption all around from the multinational companies to its leaders.. When you have 10 billion flowing out of Zambia in copper exports but only 50 million in taxes was paid you know something is wrong. Many copanies take advantage of Africas resources"
And the worst people taking advantage of Africa are it's own sons and daughters - the ruling elite who hoard millions in foreign accounts, live in luxury whilst their subjects can barely eek out an evidence.
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By *nnyMan
over a year ago
Glasgow |
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Africa isn't a country
And it's not a matter of won't help themselves it's cant....theres corruption all around from the multinational companies to its leaders.. When you have 10 billion flowing out of Zambia in copper exports but only 50 million in taxes was paid you know something is wrong. Many copanies take advantage of Africas resources
And the worst people taking advantage of Africa are it's own sons and daughters - the ruling elite who hoard millions in foreign accounts, live in luxury whilst their subjects can barely eek out an evidence.
John"
That sounds like Govan. |
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By *RYBBWCouple
over a year ago
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Billions of pounds being sent overseas in foreign aid. Not much of it seems to be getting to its intended destination.
What is startling is the increase in the number of charities looking for donations to help children in the UK who are in poverty.
Charity begins at home..... |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"they arent ruining tv for me, because i largely ignore them now.
they all bleat the same thing.
such and such kid somewhere in the universe has to do something we take for granted, and its hardship for them, so if i part with a small amount of cash, they will make life easier for them.
they must think im stupid.
build a well in a village?
why not build an Aldi?
we have to walk 5 miles to water
well move 4 miles closer to the water, its not like you live in a 3 bed semi, just rebuild your shack nearer to places you need to be.
im not hard hearted, and i dont ignore the ills of the world, but particularly in africa and the like, things havent changed for generations, and its because the country cant, or wont, help themselves.
dont see many presidents from these countries walking 5 miles for water.
Africa isn't a country
And it's not a matter of won't help themselves it's cant....theres corruption all around from the multinational companies to its leaders.. When you have 10 billion flowing out of Zambia in copper exports but only 50 million in taxes was paid you know something is wrong. Many copanies take advantage of Africas resources"
sorry, you are of course correct, its not a country.
however, it still stands, the countries wont help themselves (there is plenty of money sloshing around them, it just never filters down to those that need it, including a lot of the foreign aid) |
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"All charities are a con/rip of merchants...
I used to work within the charity organisation what was set up to help the elderly..AgeUK..
And all the shop managers received a news stating that the shop profits need to increase,but the only reason why the profits had to increase was,they was going to give the Area Managers a pay rise,and also some of the people in head office needed to have better company cars..Charities make me sick.. "
I have always believed that most of the donations are used to fund the overhead here in the UK. and what ever is left is embezzled by the officials in the receiving country. I am yet to be convinced otherwise. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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I’m just glad the actuality of own experiences don’t reflect some of the concerns raised in this thread…
So for that reason I will continue to offer and provide support to those people whose wretched lives are blighted with a fundamental inability to change or determine the outcome of their daily existence.
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Maybe the answer is to ensure that any water provided is mixed with a chemical contraceptive.
So long as people keep having children they can't afford and can't feed, water, clothe, house or employ, things will only get worse."
I agree in so far as contraception would be a good targeted aid , cheap and very effective along with better education
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Maybe the answer is to ensure that any water provided is mixed with a chemical contraceptive.
So long as people keep having children they can't afford and can't feed, water, clothe, house or employ, things will only get worse.
I agree in so far as contraception would be a good targeted aid , cheap and very effective along with better education
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unfortunately, with many missionaries being devout religious types, promoting contraception has always been way down the list of things to get to grips with |
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By *nnyMan
over a year ago
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Regardless of the best intentions of charities, especially in the field of improving the lot of people in the Third World, the reality is that the charities don't seem to be making any inroads into the problem.
Mind you, that'd put them out of business, and that would never do. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Maybe the answer is to ensure that any water provided is mixed with a chemical contraceptive.
So long as people keep having children they can't afford and can't feed, water, clothe, house or employ, things will only get worse.
I agree in so far as contraception would be a good targeted aid , cheap and very effective along with better education
unfortunately, with many missionaries being devout religious types, promoting contraception has always been way down the list of things to get to grips with"
I agree but things have to change we can't keep increasing the population . Overpopulation , global climate change etc
But governments and global companies are quite happy to increase population for supposed economic growth
The Catholic Church for one must come to terms with the hardship that it helps to cause |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Maybe the answer is to ensure that any water provided is mixed with a chemical contraceptive.
So long as people keep having children they can't afford and can't feed, water, clothe, house or employ, things will only get worse.
I agree in so far as contraception would be a good targeted aid , cheap and very effective along with better education
unfortunately, with many missionaries being devout religious types, promoting contraception has always been way down the list of things to get to grips with
I agree but things have to change we can't keep increasing the population . Overpopulation , global climate change etc
But governments and global companies are quite happy to increase population for supposed economic growth
The Catholic Church for one must come to terms with the hardship that it helps to cause "
mother nature (the world) keeps tabs on the population. she never lets things get too out of hand, by way of famines, natural disasters and so on.
people see them as tragedies, sorry, i see them as spring cleaning (as hard as some may well think of it) |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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and before anyone says anything about 'what if it happened to your family?'
well yes, i would be upset, but we all die sometime. no point getting all shitty about it |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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Population is increasing at a far greater rate than deaths from any type of disaster
77.5 million population in the UK by 2050
Problem at least in part people want to save the plant all the populations , animals yet not change life styles or when necessary force through change |
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By *aravancouple OP Man
over a year ago
A Secret Hideaway In the caravan of love |
"do transvestites need charity?
Do you know I've only got 3 bras? You could save a girlys' night out by signing up for £5 a month. If enough peeps do this I can buy more bras, more leopard print and go to more events.
Feel free to sponsor a TV from Mansfield. "
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By *aravancouple OP Man
over a year ago
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"The images are ever more harrowing, which is having the unfortunate effect of making me ever more cynical.
Starving children photo's? there is no need of it, if there is mass starvation then there needs to be a cause, a drought or a war, some form of event that leads to a problem, if there is just no food don't have the children in the first place What happened to all the men we taught to fish rather than giving them a fish? and why the hell did we need to teach them in the first place? their ancestors have lived there for centuries and know hunting / fishing better than I do??
The walking miles to fetch dirty water advert gets me riled, that is a remake of an advert from the 70's with the same story, I have been paying into another water aid charity for years, but that advert has made me want to stop paying.
WHY you may ask... because it's obviously pointless 30 years on the job and nothing has been achieved, all that is needed is a drilling rig, a length of plastic pipe and a pump at strategic points... hell you can do the job with a shovel and some clay bricks baked in the sun if you don't have technology on your side
Sorry but it is Thursday, and the apparent futility of giving to these charities is getting me down. I think the current trend of monthly donations in perpetuity is an acceptance that the problems will never be solved, so all we can do is give up "
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Population is increasing at a far greater rate than deaths from any type of disaster
77.5 million population in the UK by 2050
Problem at least in part people want to save the plant all the populations , animals yet not change life styles or when necessary force through change "
Basically we have fucked with mother nature automatic population control measures when we have vast swathes of the world where people, despite starving, do little but procreate. |
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By *aravancouple OP Man
over a year ago
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"Population is increasing at a far greater rate than deaths from any type of disaster
77.5 million population in the UK by 2050
Problem at least in part people want to save the plant all the populations , animals yet not change life styles or when necessary force through change
Basically we have fucked with mother nature automatic population control measures when we have vast swathes of the world where people, despite starving, do little but procreate."
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Population is increasing at a far greater rate than deaths from any type of disaster
77.5 million population in the UK by 2050
Problem at least in part people want to save the plant all the populations , animals yet not change life styles or when necessary force through change
Basically we have fucked with mother nature automatic population control measures when we have vast swathes of the world where people, despite starving, do little but procreate."
and modern medicine does little to help, but thats for another day |
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By (user no longer on site)
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and on the topic of charities, it was recently announced that Children in Need invested billions of pounds of money they begged for from the population in Arms/Tobacco/Alcohol to get the best returns for their investors. it's sickness at it's very base level but it's legal and justified so that's ok |
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By (user no longer on site)
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i think the shock as now gone now when people see images on tv, can people remember how shocked they were when they first saw the images in Micheal Buerks report from ethiopia in 1984. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"i think the shock as now gone now when people see images on tv, can people remember how shocked they were when they first saw the images in Micheal Buerks report from ethiopia in 1984."
i was 8.
too young to have my conscience pricked then, and possibly why im such a cynical old shit now lol |
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"i think the shock as now gone now when people see images on tv, can people remember how shocked they were when they first saw the images in Micheal Buerks report from ethiopia in 1984.
i was 8.
too young to have my conscience pricked then, and possibly why im such a cynical old shit now lol"
lol i cant believe you only become cynical when you became old  |
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"On every channel now it seems like its a charity 24/7 ad campaign.
My grandkids would like to watch there cartoon without being bombarded by these adds 20 times in 30 minutes.
What annoys me is that they don't ask for a one off donation of whatever you can afford, you have to pay X amount every month for how ever long. "
What channel do they watch if they are just showing adverts?? Turn the telly over to cbeebies lol
What's worse is when you ring the donation lines and offer to pay them the £2 a month and they try to guilt you into paying more. I used to work in a call centre that had a number of charity donation lines and that scripting never dis sit well with me.
Or the ones whwre we had to read out tragic stories to the callers before they could set up a dd |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"i think the shock as now gone now when people see images on tv, can people remember how shocked they were when they first saw the images in Micheal Buerks report from ethiopia in 1984.
i was 8.
too young to have my conscience pricked then, and possibly why im such a cynical old shit now lol
lol i cant believe you only become cynical when you became old "
absolutely not lol
just 8 year old me, enjoying queen and quo on tv didnt care about starving kids in a far off land, and grown up me is similar |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"i think the shock as now gone now when people see images on tv, can people remember how shocked they were when they first saw the images in Micheal Buerks report from ethiopia in 1984.
i was 8.
too young to have my conscience pricked then, and possibly why im such a cynical old shit now lol
lol i cant believe you only become cynical when you became old
absolutely not lol
just 8 year old me, enjoying queen and quo on tv didnt care about starving kids in a far off land, and grown up me is similar"
i was 15 in 1985 so when the images landed in 84 the school i was at really pushed the sponsored thingy ma jig.
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Hmmmmm always strikes me how some people are so willing to criticise certain aspects of charitable endeavour and yet while doing so fail to mention any of the good work done by those charities,,,,,, |
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By *nnyMan
over a year ago
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"Hmmmmm always strikes me how some people are so willing to criticise certain aspects of charitable endeavour and yet while doing so fail to mention any of the good work done by those charities,,,,,, "
I believe Chris Rennard is using the same reasoning. |
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By *essiCouple
over a year ago
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I have mixed feelings about the subject….
On one hand I think it’s such a shame the need for these saturation type advertising campaigns still falls someway short of meeting the target of helping those in dire straits ….
this...
but what I'd like to know is, do other countries do there bit other than us...?
But on the other hand, I do feel the understandable apathy created by the constant bombardment of those same saturation type advertising campaigns does become counter productive…..
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"Hmmmmm always strikes me how some people are so willing to criticise certain aspects of charitable endeavour and yet while doing so fail to mention any of the good work done by those charities,,,,,, "
Or people in foreign parts breeding yet ignore the amount of single mothers with access to free contraception in this country. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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Or people in foreign parts breeding yet ignore the amount of single mothers with access to free contraception in this country."
It pisses mefoff just was much knowing my tax money goes to support the feckless individuals who see living on benefits with loads of chavvy kids as a career choice. |
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"Hmmmmm always strikes me how some people are so willing to criticise certain aspects of charitable endeavour and yet while doing so fail to mention any of the good work done by those charities,,,,,,
Or people in foreign parts breeding yet ignore the amount of single mothers with access to free contraception in this country."
There are some very selfless people that give their time for no payment to carry out charitable work doctors nurses etc
Yes many young girls in this country disregard contraception some for purely selfish reasons others ill educated etc
They are not in the middle of a famine or bloody war or are there advertisements in other countries asking for money for them
There is also a massive difference in number of births regarding UK single mothers and the overseas countries in question regarding birth rate and circumstances
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"Hmmmmm always strikes me how some people are so willing to criticise certain aspects of charitable endeavour and yet while doing so fail to mention any of the good work done by those charities,,,,,,
Or people in foreign parts breeding yet ignore the amount of single mothers with access to free contraception in this country."
dont see many chavs on lunchtime tv going 'our Candice is starving. she has last years fake nike trainers and a knck off tracksuit that is fast becoming too small. faced with only being able to watch cbeebies on a 42" LCD tv and only on freeview, we need your help and a donation to get Candice a new pair of trainers, and to get Sky and a larger TV. and he mother needs the latest iphone 5 so she can go on the internet and check her facebook to see if Candices father has shown who he is. Please help otherwise they will have to wear Primark. Primark!! oh hte humanity' |
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