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Women who have children are 'worth less' to big City firms, Nigel Farage claims

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By (user no longer on site) OP     over a year ago

Oh aye

....waits for replies about "amother UKIP smear campaign"

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Oh aye

....waits for replies about "amother UKIP smear campaign""

I think they're doing a marvelous job of smearing themselves, no need for anyone else to do it!

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By (user no longer on site) OP     over a year ago

Another not amother ^

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Another not amother ^ "

I knew what you meant.

It's a shame that the party is full of idiots, chauvinists and closet racists. Without them they'd have a reasonable point.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

I wouldn't pee on him if he was on fire.

And the whole gay marriage is causing the recent floods because God is angry made my eyes roll so much I was dizzy for hours.

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By (user no longer on site) OP     over a year ago

I thought he left it to his members to spout bollox I didn't realise he joined in too!

He should recruit Prince Phillip I reckon

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"I thought he left it to his members to spout bollox I didn't realise he joined in too!

He should recruit Prince Phillip I reckon "

Hmmm, I quite like Prince Phillip, I think his gaffs are more to do with his age and upbringing rather than any genuine bigotry.

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By (user no longer on site) OP     over a year ago


"I thought he left it to his members to spout bollox I didn't realise he joined in too!

He should recruit Prince Phillip I reckon

Hmmm, I quite like Prince Phillip, I think his gaffs are more to do with his age and upbringing rather than any genuine bigotry. "

Lol so do I, it was a silly attempt at humour. I've been getting it wrong all day

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By *entaur_UKMan  over a year ago

Cannock

Despite making fools of themselves sometimes, they are STILL gaining popularity in the polls.

Did anyone see the poll in the Sun on sunday yesterday?

UKIP on 19%, while the Lib dems are down on 8%, Lmao.

The Torys and Labour somewhere in the 20's%.

People have just had enough of labour and the conservatives and constant lies and broken promises year after year.

I saw a poll on sky news that Farage is the most popular leader now, mind you not hard when competing against Cameron, Clegg and Egg Miliband.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"I thought he left it to his members to spout bollox I didn't realise he joined in too!

He should recruit Prince Phillip I reckon

Hmmm, I quite like Prince Phillip, I think his gaffs are more to do with his age and upbringing rather than any genuine bigotry.

Lol so do I, it was a silly attempt at humour. I've been getting it wrong all day "

Oh, I got the joke, I think my royalist tendencies felt the urge to point of the difference between Phillip and the bigot Fararge..

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By *ittle_brat_evie!!Woman  over a year ago

evesham


"I wouldn't pee on him if he was on fire.

And the whole gay marriage is causing the recent floods because God is angry made my eyes roll so much I was dizzy for hours."

That wasn't Farage though was it.

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By *rightonsteveMan  over a year ago

Brighton - even Hove!

The joys of democracy.....

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By (user no longer on site) OP     over a year ago


"Despite making fools of themselves sometimes, they are STILL gaining popularity in the polls.

Did anyone see the poll in the Sun on sunday yesterday?

UKIP on 19%, while the Lib dems are down on 8%, Lmao.

The Torys and Labour somewhere in the 20's%.

People have just had enough of labour and the conservatives and constant lies and broken promises year after year.

I saw a poll on sky news that Farage is the most popular leader now, mind you not hard when competing against Cameron, Clegg and Egg Miliband.

"

Well as far as I'm concerned the lib dems are as popular as a turd in a public swimming baths

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By *inaTitzTV/TS  over a year ago

Titz Towers, North Notts

Frank Skinner used to do a routine where he said you can make up anything you like, as long as you add in America at the end of the statement and people would stop and think about it. ie, 25% of people believe they are descended from aliens - in America.

UKIP have such a bad reputation that you can attribute any kind of bigotry to them and people will think it is possible that one of their people said it.

They need to have a think about their views or quality of membership.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Despite making fools of themselves sometimes, they are STILL gaining popularity in the polls.

Did anyone see the poll in the Sun on sunday yesterday?

UKIP on 19%, while the Lib dems are down on 8%, Lmao.

The Torys and Labour somewhere in the 20's%.

People have just had enough of labour and the conservatives and constant lies and broken promises year after year.

I saw a poll on sky news that Farage is the most popular leader now, mind you not hard when competing against Cameron, Clegg and Egg Miliband.

"

yes they get our vote

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By (user no longer on site) OP     over a year ago

Last year I thought they were vying for a credible position. In a space of a year they've offended most sectors of society I think ....

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By *pecifically1Woman  over a year ago

Hull


"Oh aye

....waits for replies about "amother UKIP smear campaign""

Well he has certainly just killed his working mothers vote..

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Last year I thought they were vying for a credible position. In a space of a year they've offended most sectors of society I think ...."

I suppose that in itself is a form of equality

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By *renchbambi xWoman  over a year ago

Need to know basis

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By (user no longer on site) OP     over a year ago


"Oh aye

....waits for replies about "amother UKIP smear campaign"

Well he has certainly just killed his working mothers vote.."

Who was the fella last year who said we were all sluts who didn't clean behind the fridge?

Thinking about it- he's right shit do I have to vote UKIP now

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By *entaur_UKMan  over a year ago

Cannock


"Despite making fools of themselves sometimes, they are STILL gaining popularity in the polls.

Did anyone see the poll in the Sun on sunday yesterday?

UKIP on 19%, while the Lib dems are down on 8%, Lmao.

The Torys and Labour somewhere in the 20's%.

People have just had enough of labour and the conservatives and constant lies and broken promises year after year.

I saw a poll on sky news that Farage is the most popular leader now, mind you not hard when competing against Cameron, Clegg and Egg Miliband.

yes they get our vote "

They get my vote too.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Oh aye

....waits for replies about "amother UKIP smear campaign""

Less than what? I always thought they shied away from ones who were candidates for upcoming pregnancy and maternity breaks.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Last year I thought they were vying for a credible position. In a space of a year they've offended most sectors of society I think ...."

It shows how the major party supporting media have done as they intended to an manipulate you into believing all the media inflated bullshit. Are you really naive enough to be spoon fed all the media crap?

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

I'm voting UKIP as we need to get out of this stupid Socialist led EU which is making us all poorer & wrecking our once great country.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"I'm voting UKIP as we need to get out of this stupid Socialist led EU which is making us all poorer & wrecking our once great country. "

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"I'm voting UKIP as we need to get out of this stupid Socialist led EU which is making us all poorer & wrecking our once great country. "

I agree but I cannot bring myself to vote for a party with a combined IQ of 7 and full of racists, chauvinists, homophobes and pillocks.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"I'm voting UKIP as we need to get out of this stupid Socialist led EU which is making us all poorer & wrecking our once great country.

I agree but I cannot bring myself to vote for a party with a combined IQ of 7 and full of racists, chauvinists, homophobes and pillocks."

rusty lee was a member and the last time I looked she was still black

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"I'm voting UKIP as we need to get out of this stupid Socialist led EU which is making us all poorer & wrecking our once great country.

I agree but I cannot bring myself to vote for a party with a combined IQ of 7 and full of racists, chauvinists, homophobes and pillocks. rusty lee was a member and the last time I looked she was still black"

Fair point but I can also point out that you don't have to be white to be a racist! (disclaimer: I am NOT in any way insinuating that the TV chef Rusty Lee is a racist).

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"I'm voting UKIP as we need to get out of this stupid Socialist led EU which is making us all poorer & wrecking our once great country.

I agree but I cannot bring myself to vote for a party with a combined IQ of 7 and full of racists, chauvinists, homophobes and pillocks."

So you don't vote at all then?

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"I'm voting UKIP as we need to get out of this stupid Socialist led EU which is making us all poorer & wrecking our once great country.

I agree but I cannot bring myself to vote for a party with a combined IQ of 7 and full of racists, chauvinists, homophobes and pillocks.

So you don't vote at all then? "

Lmao...I was waiting for that kind of response. Surely by now you should have noticed that I'm a Thatcherite (ducks to avoid flying eggs).

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"I'm voting UKIP as we need to get out of this stupid Socialist led EU which is making us all poorer & wrecking our once great country.

I agree but I cannot bring myself to vote for a party with a combined IQ of 7 and full of racists, chauvinists, homophobes and pillocks. rusty lee was a member and the last time I looked she was still black

Fair point but I can also point out that you don't have to be white to be a racist! (disclaimer: I am NOT in any way insinuating that the TV chef Rusty Lee is a racist)."

so you should say the ukip are racist then

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"I'm voting UKIP as we need to get out of this stupid Socialist led EU which is making us all poorer & wrecking our once great country.

I agree but I cannot bring myself to vote for a party with a combined IQ of 7 and full of racists, chauvinists, homophobes and pillocks. rusty lee was a member and the last time I looked she was still black

Fair point but I can also point out that you don't have to be white to be a racist! (disclaimer: I am NOT in any way insinuating that the TV chef Rusty Lee is a racist). so you should say the ukip are racist then"

Read what I said, I didn't say they were all racists...

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"I'm voting UKIP as we need to get out of this stupid Socialist led EU which is making us all poorer & wrecking our once great country.

I agree but I cannot bring myself to vote for a party with a combined IQ of 7 and full of racists, chauvinists, homophobes and pillocks. rusty lee was a member and the last time I looked she was still black

Fair point but I can also point out that you don't have to be white to be a racist! (disclaimer: I am NOT in any way insinuating that the TV chef Rusty Lee is a racist). so you should say the ukip are racist then"

That's not quite what was said.... He said "full of racists"

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

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By *nnyMan  over a year ago

Glasgow


"Despite making fools of themselves sometimes, they are STILL gaining popularity in the polls.

......

"

That's the worrying thing. Right wing nutters are gaining promises of votes all across the world.

Whether it'll translate into numbers at the ballot box is another matter.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"I'm voting UKIP as we need to get out of this stupid Socialist led EU which is making us all poorer & wrecking our once great country.

I agree but I cannot bring myself to vote for a party with a combined IQ of 7 and full of racists, chauvinists, homophobes and pillocks. rusty lee was a member and the last time I looked she was still black

Fair point but I can also point out that you don't have to be white to be a racist! (disclaimer: I am NOT in any way insinuating that the TV chef Rusty Lee is a racist). so you should say the ukip are racist then

Read what I said, I didn't say they were all racists... "

you said they are full of racists lol

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Despite making fools of themselves sometimes, they are STILL gaining popularity in the polls.

......

That's the worrying thing. Right wing nutters are gaining promises of votes all across the world.

Whether it'll translate into numbers at the ballot box is another matter."

I think many former conservative voters may consider voting UKIP as a protest vote over the delay in the referendum.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"I'm voting UKIP as we need to get out of this stupid Socialist led EU which is making us all poorer & wrecking our once great country.

I agree but I cannot bring myself to vote for a party with a combined IQ of 7 and full of racists, chauvinists, homophobes and pillocks. rusty lee was a member and the last time I looked she was still black

Fair point but I can also point out that you don't have to be white to be a racist! (disclaimer: I am NOT in any way insinuating that the TV chef Rusty Lee is a racist). so you should say the ukip are racist then

Read what I said, I didn't say they were all racists... you said they are full of racists lol"

Yes, I didn't say they all were though. I also mentioned pillocks, homophobes and chauvinists too. I dare say some UKIP members are lovely as well.

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By *nnyMan  over a year ago

Glasgow


"Despite making fools of themselves sometimes, they are STILL gaining popularity in the polls.

......

That's the worrying thing. Right wing nutters are gaining promises of votes all across the world.

Whether it'll translate into numbers at the ballot box is another matter.

I think many former conservative voters may consider voting UKIP as a protest vote over the delay in the referendum."

You're right. They 'may consider' it but only at the European elections. Turkeys Christmas etc.

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By *entaur_UKMan  over a year ago

Cannock


"Last year I thought they were vying for a credible position. In a space of a year they've offended most sectors of society I think ....

It shows how the major party supporting media have done as they intended to an manipulate you into believing all the media inflated bullshit. Are you really naive enough to be spoon fed all the media crap?"

The bbc are too scared to play any of Nigel Farage's Youtube clips, because they know it will lead to a huge swell of support for UKIP. Just do a search on Youtube "Nigel Farage Herman van Rompoy", and you will get dozens of videos of Farage giving hell to the UNELECTED DICTATORS in charge of the EU, in the european parliament.

Herman was the unelected president of the EU earning twice as much as Obama.

Classic when Farage asks him "the british people want to know, just who the hell are you????"

Farage then goes on to say "you have the charisma of a damp rag and the appearance of a low grade bank clerk, who voted for you????"

here is the link if you want to watch it...

www.youtube.com/watch?v=bypLwI5AQvY

There are also dozens of other videos of Farage exposing the undemocratic fat cat eurocrats in Brussels for what they really are. These clips are political gold and the bbc are too afraid to play them.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

All political parties have more than their fair share of twats - it's just the current news-worthy twats that are noticed the most.

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By *nnyMan  over a year ago

Glasgow

The BBC has just played Farage's reply to the question at the conference where he made the 'offending' comment.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Last year I thought they were vying for a credible position. In a space of a year they've offended most sectors of society I think ....

It shows how the major party supporting media have done as they intended to an manipulate you into believing all the media inflated bullshit. Are you really naive enough to be spoon fed all the media crap?

The bbc are too scared to play any of Nigel Farage's Youtube clips, because they know it will lead to a huge swell of support for UKIP. Just do a search on Youtube "Nigel Farage Herman van Rompoy", and you will get dozens of videos of Farage giving hell to the UNELECTED DICTATORS in charge of the EU, in the european parliament.

Herman was the unelected president of the EU earning twice as much as Obama.

Classic when Farage asks him "the british people want to know, just who the hell are you????"

Farage then goes on to say "you have the charisma of a damp rag and the appearance of a low grade bank clerk, who voted for you????"

here is the link if you want to watch it...

www.youtube.com/watch?v=bypLwI5AQvY

There are also dozens of other videos of Farage exposing the undemocratic fat cat eurocrats in Brussels for what they really are. These clips are political gold and the bbc are too afraid to play them.

"

Is that the Member of the European Parliament - Nigel Farage?

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By *entaur_UKMan  over a year ago

Cannock


"Last year I thought they were vying for a credible position. In a space of a year they've offended most sectors of society I think ....

It shows how the major party supporting media have done as they intended to an manipulate you into believing all the media inflated bullshit. Are you really naive enough to be spoon fed all the media crap?

The bbc are too scared to play any of Nigel Farage's Youtube clips, because they know it will lead to a huge swell of support for UKIP. Just do a search on Youtube "Nigel Farage Herman van Rompoy", and you will get dozens of videos of Farage giving hell to the UNELECTED DICTATORS in charge of the EU, in the european parliament.

Herman was the unelected president of the EU earning twice as much as Obama.

Classic when Farage asks him "the british people want to know, just who the hell are you????"

Farage then goes on to say "you have the charisma of a damp rag and the appearance of a low grade bank clerk, who voted for you????"

here is the link if you want to watch it...

www.youtube.com/watch?v=bypLwI5AQvY

There are also dozens of other videos of Farage exposing the undemocratic fat cat eurocrats in Brussels for what they really are. These clips are political gold and the bbc are too afraid to play them.

Is that the Member of the European Parliament - Nigel Farage?"

Yes but Farage was elected by the British people in the european elections.

Who elected Herman van rompuy to be president of the EU?

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By *entaur_UKMan  over a year ago

Cannock


"The BBC has just played Farage's reply to the question at the conference where he made the 'offending' comment."

Such a shame they don't play some of his Youtube videos aswel then.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Is that the Member of the European Parliament - Nigel Farage?

Yes but Farage was elected by the British people in the european elections.

Who elected Herman van rompuy to be president of the EU?"

A friend of mine once said it was the one job he would do in politics - because nobody really votes for you, nobody knows how you got voted in, nobody knows what you do - but you get paid a shit load for it.

Seems like an almighty glass house to be spouting dribble from.

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By *obbyCock36Man  over a year ago

Bournemouth

farage is an arse, simple.

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By *yrdwomanWoman  over a year ago

Putting the 'cum' in Eboracum

Its a shame that the only party that had a chance of maybe giving the others a scare are only in the news these days because its members make comments that are racist, sexist, homophobic and now just plain mean. But as much support as they have in the polls, it doesn't always translate to votes.

And I am pro-Europe, so I don't really care for their main policy. Now if they start giving out free cake I'll go for it. I am easily bought.

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By *nnyMan  over a year ago

Glasgow

That plane crash may have more brain damage than previously thought.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

I'm loving all these comments about right wing nutters & racists & that Farage is an arse. That is because those that say this have no arguement against their policies & so resort to insults. Can anyone come up with a couple of good reasons NOT to vote for UKIP but argue for it in a rational, logical & convincing manner?

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Last year I thought they were vying for a credible position. In a space of a year they've offended most sectors of society I think ....

It shows how the major party supporting media have done as they intended to an manipulate you into believing all the media inflated bullshit. Are you really naive enough to be spoon fed all the media crap?

The bbc are too scared to play any of Nigel Farage's Youtube clips, because they know it will lead to a huge swell of support for UKIP. Just do a search on Youtube "Nigel Farage Herman van Rompoy", and you will get dozens of videos of Farage giving hell to the UNELECTED DICTATORS in charge of the EU, in the european parliament.

Herman was the unelected president of the EU earning twice as much as Obama.

Classic when Farage asks him "the british people want to know, just who the hell are you????"

Farage then goes on to say "you have the charisma of a damp rag and the appearance of a low grade bank clerk, who voted for you????"

here is the link if you want to watch it...

www.youtube.com/watch?v=bypLwI5AQvY

There are also dozens of other videos of Farage exposing the undemocratic fat cat eurocrats in Brussels for what they really are. These clips are political gold and the bbc are too afraid to play them.

Is that the Member of the European Parliament - Nigel Farage?

Yes but Farage was elected by the British people in the european elections.

Who elected Herman van rompuy to be president of the EU?"

According to Wiki:


" There is, simply, no President of the European Union as a whole: each of its institutions has its own President. Each one is chosen by the members of the institution concerned, except the Council, whose Presidency rotates automatically among Member States, and the Commission, whose President is elected by the European Parliament. In protocol (ceremonial) terms, it is the President of the Parliament who comes first, as it is the only directly elected institution and is listed first in the treaties. "

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"I'm loving all these comments about right wing nutters & racists & that Farage is an arse. That is because those that say this have no arguement against their policies & so resort to insults. Can anyone come up with a couple of good reasons NOT to vote for UKIP but argue for it in a rational, logical & convincing manner? "

I for one don't believe that gay marriage or homosexuals in general have any effect on climate change...

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By *nnyMan  over a year ago

Glasgow


"I'm loving all these comments about right wing nutters & racists & that Farage is an arse. That is because those that say this have no arguement against their policies & so resort to insults. Can anyone come up with a couple of good reasons NOT to vote for UKIP but argue for it in a rational, logical & convincing manner? "

Is an insult an insult if its true?

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By *yrdwomanWoman  over a year ago

Putting the 'cum' in Eboracum


"I'm loving all these comments about right wing nutters & racists & that Farage is an arse. That is because those that say this have no arguement against their policies & so resort to insults. Can anyone come up with a couple of good reasons NOT to vote for UKIP but argue for it in a rational, logical & convincing manner? "

a) It's no-ones business but mine who I vote for

b) Because I don't want to

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By *entaur_UKMan  over a year ago

Cannock


"I'm loving all these comments about right wing nutters & racists & that Farage is an arse. That is because those that say this have no arguement against their policies & so resort to insults. Can anyone come up with a couple of good reasons NOT to vote for UKIP but argue for it in a rational, logical & convincing manner?

I for one don't believe that gay marriage or homosexuals in general have any effect on climate change... "

UKIP as a party don't believe that either, it was the guys own personal view, not the view of the party, lets get the facts straight please.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

The headline is a bit confusing - are women who have children worth less.... than women who don't, or are women who have children worthless, meaning they have no value? The Daily Mail's lack of good grammar strikes again.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"I'm loving all these comments about right wing nutters & racists & that Farage is an arse. That is because those that say this have no arguement against their policies & so resort to insults. Can anyone come up with a couple of good reasons NOT to vote for UKIP but argue for it in a rational, logical & convincing manner?

I for one don't believe that gay marriage or homosexuals in general have any effect on climate change...

UKIP as a party don't believe that either, it was the guys own personal view, not the view of the party, lets get the facts straight please. "

I know, I was being light hearted in my reply as I've already said that I partly agree with some of their policies, I just couldn't bring myself to vote for them...

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"The headline is a bit confusing - are women who have children worth less.... than women who don't, or are women who have children worthless, meaning they have no value? The Daily Mail's lack of good grammar strikes again."

According the the UKIP members handbook women (in general) are worth less and mothers are worthless...

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By *entaur_UKMan  over a year ago

Cannock


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Yes but Farage was elected by the British people in the european elections.

Who elected Herman van rompuy to be president of the EU?

According to Wiki:

There is, simply, no President of the European Union as a whole: each of its institutions has its own President. Each one is chosen by the members of the institution concerned, except the Council, whose Presidency rotates automatically among Member States, and the Commission, whose President is elected by the European Parliament. In protocol (ceremonial) terms, it is the President of the Parliament who comes first, as it is the only directly elected institution and is listed first in the treaties. "

Ah, so it is all decided internally then, by those who are fanatical about keeping the European union, no doubt with backhanders and brown envelopes stuffed with wads of cash.

A bit like how the football governing body FIFA do things, and we all know how corrupt they are!

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By *icketysplitsWoman  over a year ago

Way over Yonder, that's where I'm bound

Has he said it again? He said on LBC last year. That's a clip worth listening too. He was defending Bloom at the time.

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"I'm loving all these comments about right wing nutters & racists & that Farage is an arse. That is because those that say this have no arguement against their policies & so resort to insults. Can anyone come up with a couple of good reasons NOT to vote for UKIP but argue for it in a rational, logical & convincing manner? "

1. Because they would not be capable of running a government.

2. Because they would not be elected to do so anyway.

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By *entaur_UKMan  over a year ago

Cannock


"I'm loving all these comments about right wing nutters & racists & that Farage is an arse. That is because those that say this have no arguement against their policies & so resort to insults. Can anyone come up with a couple of good reasons NOT to vote for UKIP but argue for it in a rational, logical & convincing manner?

1. Because they would not be capable of running a government.

2. Because they would not be elected to do so anyway."

Labour and the Consevatives are not capable of running a government, just look at their track records.

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By *icketysplitsWoman  over a year ago

Way over Yonder, that's where I'm bound


"I'm loving all these comments about right wing nutters & racists & that Farage is an arse. That is because those that say this have no arguement against their policies & so resort to insults. Can anyone come up with a couple of good reasons NOT to vote for UKIP but argue for it in a rational, logical & convincing manner? "

Until they have policies for ALL aspects of government and not just one single rallying cry they stand no chance of attracting enough votes in every area of the country required to form and a lead a government.

I would need to understand their foreign policy, beyond Europe as well as their domestic policy for regional development. I want to see their waste management policy along with their policy for public health.

Finally, I would need to see their proposed cabinet out and about, speaking about the issues and not just Nigel Farage trying to cover all bases.

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By *nnyMan  over a year ago

Glasgow


"The headline is a bit confusing - are women who have children worth less.... than women who don't, or are women who have children worthless, meaning they have no value? The Daily Mail's lack of good grammar strikes again."

Farage was speaking specifically about women working in commerce who had built a personal client base and he reckoned that if they went off on maternity leave, there was a good chance those clients wouldn't hang around waiting for their return to work.

That might actually be true (perhaps some Fab ladies could comment) but it was a rather clumsy, if headline grabbing, way of expressing it.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"I'm loving all these comments about right wing nutters & racists & that Farage is an arse. That is because those that say this have no arguement against their policies & so resort to insults. Can anyone come up with a couple of good reasons NOT to vote for UKIP but argue for it in a rational, logical & convincing manner?

1. Because they would not be capable of running a government.

2. Because they would not be elected to do so anyway."

1. That's too much of a sweeping statement to have any creditability. Do you have any examples where they are not competent in local Government? There are plenty of UKIPers at that level. So that is bollocks. As if the 3 main parties are so good at running a Government? Remember ZaNuLiebore? How shit were they in Government? UKIP have more people with proper work experience than all those useless cunts in the Labour party. None of Labour's entire shadow cabinet has had a job in the real world! & it shows!

2 UKIP doesn't actually need to have an all out victory to get the changes they advocate. With enough votes they can influence the 3 main parties so it's not a wasted vote at all.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"

2 UKIP doesn't actually need to have an all out victory to get the changes they advocate. With enough votes they can influence the 3 main parties so it's not a wasted vote at all. "

This is most likely what will happen.

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By *nnyMan  over a year ago

Glasgow


"............ None of Labour's entire shadow cabinet has had a job in the real world! & it shows!

............ "

That's a good sound bite but it isn't true.

Just off the top of my head there's Chukka Umunna (spelling?) who was a solicitor - or does that not count as 'real world'?

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

who i vote for is a matter for me and the ballot box, however i will say that UKIP are already influencing both government and opposition policies on a number of issues such as immigration, benefit system and EU.

like it or not these changes in policies are driven by what the voter on the street tells the researchers, and if the average voter tell the researcher that will vote UKIP due to their stances on various policies then surprise surprise the two main parties react to save their vote, its democracy in action.

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By *entaur_UKMan  over a year ago

Cannock


"I'm loving all these comments about right wing nutters & racists & that Farage is an arse. That is because those that say this have no arguement against their policies & so resort to insults. Can anyone come up with a couple of good reasons NOT to vote for UKIP but argue for it in a rational, logical & convincing manner?

1. Because they would not be capable of running a government.

2. Because they would not be elected to do so anyway.

1. That's too much of a sweeping statement to have any creditability. Do you have any examples where they are not competent in local Government? There are plenty of UKIPers at that level. So that is bollocks. As if the 3 main parties are so good at running a Government? Remember ZaNuLiebore? How shit were they in Government? UKIP have more people with proper work experience than all those useless cunts in the Labour party. None of Labour's entire shadow cabinet has had a job in the real world! & it shows!

2 UKIP doesn't actually need to have an all out victory to get the changes they advocate. With enough votes they can influence the 3 main parties so it's not a wasted vote at all. "

I would'nt count the Lib dems as one of the 3 main parties anymore, they are finished as far as i can see. I think UKIP are now set to take the 3rd spot away from the Lib dems in UK politics.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"I thought he left it to his members to spout bollox I didn't realise he joined in too!

He should recruit Prince Phillip I reckon

Hmmm, I quite like Prince Phillip, I think his gaffs are more to do with his age and upbringing rather than any genuine bigotry. "

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"............ None of Labour's entire shadow cabinet has had a job in the real world! & it shows!

............

That's a good sound bite but it isn't true.

Just off the top of my head there's Chukka Umunna (spelling?) who was a solicitor - or does that not count as 'real world'?"

Chuckyamoneyaway was a Lawyer? Lawyers live in a false world where they get loads of money from Governmet in a rigged market. I remeber B.Liar was a Barrister, & the worst Prime Minister this country has ever seen. Until we got Gordon fucking Brown. But it is true non of the socialists know how to make money. Socialists only know how to spend money. Not how to invest it or make it. Which is why Socialism always runs out of other people's money.Every time.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"I'm loving all these comments about right wing nutters & racists & that Farage is an arse. That is because those that say this have no arguement against their policies & so resort to insults. Can anyone come up with a couple of good reasons NOT to vote for UKIP but argue for it in a rational, logical & convincing manner?

1. Because they would not be capable of running a government.

2. Because they would not be elected to do so anyway.

1. That's too much of a sweeping statement to have any creditability. Do you have any examples where they are not competent in local Government? There are plenty of UKIPers at that level. So that is bollocks. As if the 3 main parties are so good at running a Government? Remember ZaNuLiebore? How shit were they in Government? UKIP have more people with proper work experience than all those useless cunts in the Labour party. None of Labour's entire shadow cabinet has had a job in the real world! & it shows!

2 UKIP doesn't actually need to have an all out victory to get the changes they advocate. With enough votes they can influence the 3 main parties so it's not a wasted vote at all. "

Do you have any examples where they have made a competent government?

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"I'm loving all these comments about right wing nutters & racists & that Farage is an arse. That is because those that say this have no arguement against their policies & so resort to insults. Can anyone come up with a couple of good reasons NOT to vote for UKIP but argue for it in a rational, logical & convincing manner?

1. Because they would not be capable of running a government.

2. Because they would not be elected to do so anyway.

Labour and the Consevatives are not capable of running a government, just look at their track records. "

Which show they have run many governments!

Hardly a third world country are we?

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"............ None of Labour's entire shadow cabinet has had a job in the real world! & it shows!

............

That's a good sound bite but it isn't true.

Just off the top of my head there's Chukka Umunna (spelling?) who was a solicitor - or does that not count as 'real world'?

Chuckyamoneyaway was a Lawyer? Lawyers live in a false world where they get loads of money from Governmet in a rigged market. I remeber B.Liar was a Barrister, & the worst Prime Minister this country has ever seen. Until we got Gordon fucking Brown. But it is true non of the socialists know how to make money. Socialists only know how to spend money. Not how to invest it or make it. Which is why Socialism always runs out of other people's money.Every time."

So in your view solicitors and lawyers aren't part of the real world then.

Have you ever considered writing speeches for Mr Farage?...

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By *icketysplitsWoman  over a year ago

Way over Yonder, that's where I'm bound


"............ None of Labour's entire shadow cabinet has had a job in the real world! & it shows!

............

That's a good sound bite but it isn't true.

Just off the top of my head there's Chukka Umunna (spelling?) who was a solicitor - or does that not count as 'real world'?

Chuckyamoneyaway was a Lawyer? Lawyers live in a false world where they get loads of money from Governmet in a rigged market. I remeber B.Liar was a Barrister, & the worst Prime Minister this country has ever seen. Until we got Gordon fucking Brown. But it is true non of the socialists know how to make money. Socialists only know how to spend money. Not how to invest it or make it. Which is why Socialism always runs out of other people's money.Every time."

You asked for a proper debate and yet you are still slinging derogatory names around. You haven't addressed my points on why UKIP are unelectable so now I ask you to set out what a UKIP government would mean for this country? Do you have a reasoned position on this?

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By *entaur_UKMan  over a year ago

Cannock


"I'm loving all these comments about right wing nutters & racists & that Farage is an arse. That is because those that say this have no arguement against their policies & so resort to insults. Can anyone come up with a couple of good reasons NOT to vote for UKIP but argue for it in a rational, logical & convincing manner?

1. Because they would not be capable of running a government.

2. Because they would not be elected to do so anyway.

Labour and the Consevatives are not capable of running a government, just look at their track records.

Which show they have run many governments!

Hardly a third world country are we?"

Yes they have run many governments........quite badly as i recall, so then maybe time to let someone else have a go?

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

Well I pointed out the last Labour governments appalling track record in wrecking the UK. Track record is important.

UKIP's main policy will do for me. Get the fuck out of Europe so we can start re-building this country & run it from Westminster. Can there be any one policy better than this?

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"I'm loving all these comments about right wing nutters & racists & that Farage is an arse. That is because those that say this have no arguement against their policies & so resort to insults. Can anyone come up with a couple of good reasons NOT to vote for UKIP but argue for it in a rational, logical & convincing manner?

1. Because they would not be capable of running a government.

2. Because they would not be elected to do so anyway.

Labour and the Consevatives are not capable of running a government, just look at their track records.

Which show they have run many governments!

Hardly a third world country are we?

Yes they have run many governments........quite badly as i recall, so then maybe time to let someone else have a go?"

Let them have a go?

Surely it would only be right for them to be elected once they've outlined their policies in all areas of government and not just Europe.

Letting them "have a go" would result in a dictatorship!!

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Well I pointed out the last Labour governments appalling track record in wrecking the UK. Track record is important.

UKIP's main policy will do for me. Get the fuck out of Europe so we can start re-building this country & run it from Westminster. Can there be any one policy better than this? "

I'll give you two for starters:

Health.

Education.

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By *nnyMan  over a year ago

Glasgow

Some folk are getting very close invoking Godwin's Law.

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By *entaur_UKMan  over a year ago

Cannock


"............ None of Labour's entire shadow cabinet has had a job in the real world! & it shows!

............

That's a good sound bite but it isn't true.

Just off the top of my head there's Chukka Umunna (spelling?) who was a solicitor - or does that not count as 'real world'?

Chuckyamoneyaway was a Lawyer? Lawyers live in a false world where they get loads of money from Governmet in a rigged market. I remeber B.Liar was a Barrister, & the worst Prime Minister this country has ever seen. Until we got Gordon fucking Brown. But it is true non of the socialists know how to make money. Socialists only know how to spend money. Not how to invest it or make it. Which is why Socialism always runs out of other people's money.Every time.

You asked for a proper debate and yet you are still slinging derogatory names around. You haven't addressed my points on why UKIP are unelectable so now I ask you to set out what a UKIP government would mean for this country? Do you have a reasoned position on this?

"

A UKIP government would mean an instant referendum on EU membership, and there is no doubt in my mind the british people would vote in a democratic process to leave the EU, this is why Miliband, Clegg and secretly i think Cameron too don't really want to give us a referendum.

Once we leave the EU, we will make an instant saving of £50 Million pounds per day, i will say it again in case it did'nt register that's a whopping £50 million pounds per day it costs us to be a member of the EU.

UKIP have said savings made there would be spent on cutting the amount of managers and red tape in the Nhs, and employing more frontline staff such as doctors and nurses. Also more policemen aswel to fight crime too.

For foreign policy UKIP would cut foreign aid to countries like India (why are we still giving them millions of pounds every year?) so they could not spend it on their space programmes, and they are already on the path to becoming one of the new global economic giants anyway!

Is that a good starting point for you?

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

I said a few years back that people will vote for ukip and they will, sick and tired of other country's telling us what to do, can't wait till may and see c the p.m face lol

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"............ None of Labour's entire shadow cabinet has had a job in the real world! & it shows!

............

That's a good sound bite but it isn't true.

Just off the top of my head there's Chukka Umunna (spelling?) who was a solicitor - or does that not count as 'real world'?

Chuckyamoneyaway was a Lawyer? Lawyers live in a false world where they get loads of money from Governmet in a rigged market. I remeber B.Liar was a Barrister, & the worst Prime Minister this country has ever seen. Until we got Gordon fucking Brown. But it is true non of the socialists know how to make money. Socialists only know how to spend money. Not how to invest it or make it. Which is why Socialism always runs out of other people's money.Every time.

You asked for a proper debate and yet you are still slinging derogatory names around. You haven't addressed my points on why UKIP are unelectable so now I ask you to set out what a UKIP government would mean for this country? Do you have a reasoned position on this?

A UKIP government would mean an instant referendum on EU membership, and there is no doubt in my mind the british people would vote in a democratic process to leave the EU, this is why Miliband, Clegg and secretly i think Cameron too don't really want to give us a referendum.

Once we leave the EU, we will make an instant saving of £50 Million pounds per day, i will say it again in case it did'nt register that's a whopping £50 million pounds per day it costs us to be a member of the EU.

UKIP have said savings made there would be spent on cutting the amount of managers and red tape in the Nhs, and employing more frontline staff such as doctors and nurses. Also more policemen aswel to fight crime too.

For foreign policy UKIP would cut foreign aid to countries like India (why are we still giving them millions of pounds every year?) so they could not spend it on their space programmes, and they are already on the path to becoming one of the new global economic giants anyway!

Is that a good starting point for you?"

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By *inaTitzTV/TS  over a year ago

Titz Towers, North Notts

Totally unconvinced by UKIP. However, UKIPWeather is a top site

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By *nnyMan  over a year ago

Glasgow


"............ None of Labour's entire shadow cabinet has had a job in the real world! & it shows!

............

That's a good sound bite but it isn't true.

Just off the top of my head there's Chukka Umunna (spelling?) who was a solicitor - or does that not count as 'real world'?

Chuckyamoneyaway was a Lawyer? Lawyers live in a false world where they get loads of money from Governmet in a rigged market. I remeber B.Liar was a Barrister, & the worst Prime Minister this country has ever seen. Until we got Gordon fucking Brown. But it is true non of the socialists know how to make money. Socialists only know how to spend money. Not how to invest it or make it. Which is why Socialism always runs out of other people's money.Every time.

You asked for a proper debate and yet you are still slinging derogatory names around. You haven't addressed my points on why UKIP are unelectable so now I ask you to set out what a UKIP government would mean for this country? Do you have a reasoned position on this?

A UKIP government would mean an instant referendum on EU membership, and there is no doubt in my mind the british people would vote in a democratic process to leave the EU, this is why Miliband, Clegg and secretly i think Cameron too don't really want to give us a referendum.

Once we leave the EU, we will make an instant saving of £50 Million pounds per day, i will say it again in case it did'nt register that's a whopping £50 million pounds per day it costs us to be a member of the EU.

UKIP have said savings made there would be spent on cutting the amount of managers and red tape in the Nhs, and employing more frontline staff such as doctors and nurses. Also more policemen aswel to fight crime too.

For foreign policy UKIP would cut foreign aid to countries like India (why are we still giving them millions of pounds every year?) so they could not spend it on their space programmes, and they are already on the path to becoming one of the new global economic giants anyway!

Is that a good starting point for you? "

And if, just IF, Farage achieved these savings, what would he do with the money?

Tax cuts for his chums?

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By *icketysplitsWoman  over a year ago

Way over Yonder, that's where I'm bound


"............ None of Labour's entire shadow cabinet has had a job in the real world! & it shows!

............

That's a good sound bite but it isn't true.

Just off the top of my head there's Chukka Umunna (spelling?) who was a solicitor - or does that not count as 'real world'?

Chuckyamoneyaway was a Lawyer? Lawyers live in a false world where they get loads of money from Governmet in a rigged market. I remeber B.Liar was a Barrister, & the worst Prime Minister this country has ever seen. Until we got Gordon fucking Brown. But it is true non of the socialists know how to make money. Socialists only know how to spend money. Not how to invest it or make it. Which is why Socialism always runs out of other people's money.Every time.

You asked for a proper debate and yet you are still slinging derogatory names around. You haven't addressed my points on why UKIP are unelectable so now I ask you to set out what a UKIP government would mean for this country? Do you have a reasoned position on this?

A UKIP government would mean an instant referendum on EU membership, and there is no doubt in my mind the british people would vote in a democratic process to leave the EU, this is why Miliband, Clegg and secretly i think Cameron too don't really want to give us a referendum.

Once we leave the EU, we will make an instant saving of £50 Million pounds per day, i will say it again in case it did'nt register that's a whopping £50 million pounds per day it costs us to be a member of the EU.

UKIP have said savings made there would be spent on cutting the amount of managers and red tape in the Nhs, and employing more frontline staff such as doctors and nurses. Also more policemen aswel to fight crime too.

For foreign policy UKIP would cut foreign aid to countries like India (why are we still giving them millions of pounds every year?) so they could not spend it on their space programmes, and they are already on the path to becoming one of the new global economic giants anyway!

Is that a good starting point for you?"

It's a point, whether it's one I agree with is another. Who are the proposed ministers for each department?

The policies are sound-bites at best. IF the referendum resulted in the Great British Public deciding to remain in Europe what is the plan then?

A protest vote to provoke a referendum is not the same as getting the result UKIP want. It may seem strange to you but I know people who want an EU referendum in order to assert that they feel our best interests remain with staying in Europe.

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By *ibbyhunterCouple  over a year ago

keighley

lib dems suspend lord rennard, i think some people on this site would have gone into a feeding frenzy if he had been a ukip member .

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By *icketysplitsWoman  over a year ago

Way over Yonder, that's where I'm bound

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By *icketysplitsWoman  over a year ago

Way over Yonder, that's where I'm bound


"Totally unconvinced by UKIP. However, UKIPWeather is a top site "

I saw it last night. It's almost as good as NotBorisJohnson.

A friend has just sent me the UKIP Shipping Forecast. It tops the Weather site.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

The fact that Nigel Farage represents the country in the EU is irony of the highest order, "Oh I don't think we should be in Europe but I don't mind being paid for being an MEP."

Quite honestly I think UKIP is a party for unintelligent old school Tories (and yes I am aware my OH has publicly admitted to being a Thatcherite before anyone pulls me on that one!)

It is run by a bunch of people who dislike anything that might threaten the United Kingdom's independence... Last time I looked we hadn't been invaded by anyone.

I honestly believe that this party has jumped on the back of people's neuroses about other "immigrants" and drawn them in.

We have bigger problems in this country than being in the European Union.

Ruby

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"The fact that Nigel Farage represents the country in the EU is irony of the highest order, "Oh I don't think we should be in Europe but I don't mind being paid for being an MEP."

Quite honestly I think UKIP is a party for unintelligent old school Tories (and yes I am aware my OH has publicly admitted to being a Thatcherite before anyone pulls me on that one!)

It is run by a bunch of people who dislike anything that might threaten the United Kingdom's independence... Last time I looked we hadn't been invaded by anyone.

I honestly believe that this party has jumped on the back of people's neuroses about other "immigrants" and drawn them in.

We have bigger problems in this country than being in the European Union.

Ruby "

what bigger problems have the country got?

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By *entaur_UKMan  over a year ago

Cannock


"............ None of Labour's entire shadow cabinet has had a job in the real world! & it shows!

............

That's a good sound bite but it isn't true.

Just off the top of my head there's Chukka Umunna (spelling?) who was a solicitor - or does that not count as 'real world'?

Chuckyamoneyaway was a Lawyer? Lawyers live in a false world where they get loads of money from Governmet in a rigged market. I remeber B.Liar was a Barrister, & the worst Prime Minister this country has ever seen. Until we got Gordon fucking Brown. But it is true non of the socialists know how to make money. Socialists only know how to spend money. Not how to invest it or make it. Which is why Socialism always runs out of other people's money.Every time.

You asked for a proper debate and yet you are still slinging derogatory names around. You haven't addressed my points on why UKIP are unelectable so now I ask you to set out what a UKIP government would mean for this country? Do you have a reasoned position on this?

A UKIP government would mean an instant referendum on EU membership, and there is no doubt in my mind the british people would vote in a democratic process to leave the EU, this is why Miliband, Clegg and secretly i think Cameron too don't really want to give us a referendum.

Once we leave the EU, we will make an instant saving of £50 Million pounds per day, i will say it again in case it did'nt register that's a whopping £50 million pounds per day it costs us to be a member of the EU.

UKIP have said savings made there would be spent on cutting the amount of managers and red tape in the Nhs, and employing more frontline staff such as doctors and nurses. Also more policemen aswel to fight crime too.

For foreign policy UKIP would cut foreign aid to countries like India (why are we still giving them millions of pounds every year?) so they could not spend it on their space programmes, and they are already on the path to becoming one of the new global economic giants anyway!

Is that a good starting point for you?

And if, just IF, Farage achieved these savings, what would he do with the money?

Tax cuts for his chums?"

I just told you what he would do with the savings, did you even read a word i wrote?

Also there would be a massive cut in immigration, more british jobs for british people, and an end to british workers wages being undercut by cheap foreign labour from eastern europe.

As for defence and foreign policy again, Farage has said he would not allow this county to keep getting involved in wars which do not concern us. Anyone remember Iraq, Afghanistan, Libya, and so nearly we got into a war with Syria aswel.

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By *icketysplitsWoman  over a year ago

Way over Yonder, that's where I'm bound


"The fact that Nigel Farage represents the country in the EU is irony of the highest order, "Oh I don't think we should be in Europe but I don't mind being paid for being an MEP."

Quite honestly I think UKIP is a party for unintelligent old school Tories (and yes I am aware my OH has publicly admitted to being a Thatcherite before anyone pulls me on that one!)

It is run by a bunch of people who dislike anything that might threaten the United Kingdom's independence... Last time I looked we hadn't been invaded by anyone.

I honestly believe that this party has jumped on the back of people's neuroses about other "immigrants" and drawn them in.

We have bigger problems in this country than being in the European Union.

Ruby "

How many are they fielding for the European elections this May I wonder? If they are successful in being elected in Europe then we can expect worst settlements for Britain as they have no interest in their roles as elected representatives.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

It is good that UKIP treat the Euro Socialist Parliament with the contempt it deserves. Do nothing & don't get involved & get Britain out of this Socialist wank fantasy called the EU.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

Germany ,France, Italy , Spain. And the rest all want Great Britain to stay in the eu only because we put the most money into it

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"

As for defence and foreign policy again, Farage has said he would not allow this county to keep getting involved in wars which do not concern us. Anyone remember Iraq, Afghanistan, Libya, and so nearly we got into a war with Syria aswel.

"

Possibly with the exception of Iraq (well the reason for the invasion) all the others did/do concern us.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"

As for defence and foreign policy again, Farage has said he would not allow this county to keep getting involved in wars which do not concern us. Anyone remember Iraq, Afghanistan, Libya, and so nearly we got into a war with Syria aswel.

Possibly with the exception of Iraq (well the reason for the invasion) all the others did/do concern us."

why does Syria concern us?

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By *entaur_UKMan  over a year ago

Cannock

A UKIP government out of the EU would also mean we could once again make our own laws and control our own borders.

Time and time again we are not allowed to deport convicted terrorists and other criminals because the european court of human rights says it is not allowed.

The EU courts also tell us we must allow our Prisoners the right to vote while they are serving time in prison. Do you want murderers, rapists and paedophiles to be allowed to vote?

Our british courts and judiciary services are constantly being undermined by interference from the EU courts in Brussels.

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By *icketysplitsWoman  over a year ago

Way over Yonder, that's where I'm bound


"It is good that UKIP treat the Euro Socialist Parliament with the contempt it deserves. Do nothing & don't get involved & get Britain out of this Socialist wank fantasy called the EU."

Whilst taking a salary and claiming the expenses from the role?

I would have more respect for their stance if they were elected to any other role within this country. I have no problem with the UKIP councillor supporting the soup kitchen feeding the Romanians living rough in London, for instance. He seemed a reasonable person.

Standing for and being elected to the EU Parliament is hypocrisy.

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By *icketysplitsWoman  over a year ago

Way over Yonder, that's where I'm bound


"Germany ,France, Italy , Spain. And the rest all want Great Britain to stay in the eu only because we put the most money into it"

Of course we do. I think the Germans may dispute that but hey, what does that matter?

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Germany ,France, Italy , Spain. And the rest all want Great Britain to stay in the eu only because we put the most money into it

Of course we do. I think the Germans may dispute that but hey, what does that matter?"

well as I pay tax I don't want my money goin there

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"

As for defence and foreign policy again, Farage has said he would not allow this county to keep getting involved in wars which do not concern us. Anyone remember Iraq, Afghanistan, Libya, and so nearly we got into a war with Syria aswel.

Possibly with the exception of Iraq (well the reason for the invasion) all the others did/do concern us. why does Syria concern us?"

The conflict in general doesn't there are, however, humanitarian concerns with the use of chemical weapons (regardless of which side has used them) then you have Al Qaeda pulling their old trick of moving into unsettled Arab states and setting up terrorist training camps (disillusioned people are the ideal target for fanatics wanting to spread hatred). Obviously we don't need to get involved with the conflict but we need to monitor the situation for the safety of our own people here in Britain.

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By *yrdwomanWoman  over a year ago

Putting the 'cum' in Eboracum


"Germany ,France, Italy , Spain. And the rest all want Great Britain to stay in the eu only because we put the most money into it

Of course we do. I think the Germans may dispute that but hey, what does that matter?"

Never let facts get in the way of a good rant.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"

As for defence and foreign policy again, Farage has said he would not allow this county to keep getting involved in wars which do not concern us. Anyone remember Iraq, Afghanistan, Libya, and so nearly we got into a war with Syria aswel.

Possibly with the exception of Iraq (well the reason for the invasion) all the others did/do concern us. why does Syria concern us?

The conflict in general doesn't there are, however, humanitarian concerns with the use of chemical weapons (regardless of which side has used them) then you have Al Qaeda pulling their old trick of moving into unsettled Arab states and setting up terrorist training camps (disillusioned people are the ideal target for fanatics wanting to spread hatred). Obviously we don't need to get involved with the conflict but we need to monitor the situation for the safety of our own people here in Britain."

lol most of them are here already

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"

As for defence and foreign policy again, Farage has said he would not allow this county to keep getting involved in wars which do not concern us. Anyone remember Iraq, Afghanistan, Libya, and so nearly we got into a war with Syria aswel.

Possibly with the exception of Iraq (well the reason for the invasion) all the others did/do concern us. why does Syria concern us?

The conflict in general doesn't there are, however, humanitarian concerns with the use of chemical weapons (regardless of which side has used them) then you have Al Qaeda pulling their old trick of moving into unsettled Arab states and setting up terrorist training camps (disillusioned people are the ideal target for fanatics wanting to spread hatred). Obviously we don't need to get involved with the conflict but we need to monitor the situation for the safety of our own people here in Britain. lol most of them are here already"

Aside from being racist that's also highly inaccurate...

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"

As for defence and foreign policy again, Farage has said he would not allow this county to keep getting involved in wars which do not concern us. Anyone remember Iraq, Afghanistan, Libya, and so nearly we got into a war with Syria aswel.

Possibly with the exception of Iraq (well the reason for the invasion) all the others did/do concern us. why does Syria concern us?

The conflict in general doesn't there are, however, humanitarian concerns with the use of chemical weapons (regardless of which side has used them) then you have Al Qaeda pulling their old trick of moving into unsettled Arab states and setting up terrorist training camps (disillusioned people are the ideal target for fanatics wanting to spread hatred). Obviously we don't need to get involved with the conflict but we need to monitor the situation for the safety of our own people here in Britain. lol most of them are here already

Aside from being racist that's also highly inaccurate... "

don't call me racsist you don't no me ,it's called freedom of speech

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"The fact that Nigel Farage represents the country in the EU is irony of the highest order, "Oh I don't think we should be in Europe but I don't mind being paid for being an MEP."

Quite honestly I think UKIP is a party for unintelligent old school Tories (and yes I am aware my OH has publicly admitted to being a Thatcherite before anyone pulls me on that one!)

It is run by a bunch of people who dislike anything that might threaten the United Kingdom's independence... Last time I looked we hadn't been invaded by anyone.

I honestly believe that this party has jumped on the back of people's neuroses about other "immigrants" and drawn them in.

We have bigger problems in this country than being in the European Union.

Ruby what bigger problems have the country got?"

The budget deficit

Michael Gove bollocksing up the education system

Unemployment

Children being brought up below the breadline

Overcrowding in our prisons

The NHS being chronically underfunded and understaffed

Would you like me to continue because I will quite happily?

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By *entaur_UKMan  over a year ago

Cannock


"

As for defence and foreign policy again, Farage has said he would not allow this county to keep getting involved in wars which do not concern us. Anyone remember Iraq, Afghanistan, Libya, and so nearly we got into a war with Syria aswel.

Possibly with the exception of Iraq (well the reason for the invasion) all the others did/do concern us. why does Syria concern us?

The conflict in general doesn't there are, however, humanitarian concerns with the use of chemical weapons (regardless of which side has used them) then you have Al Qaeda pulling their old trick of moving into unsettled Arab states and setting up terrorist training camps (disillusioned people are the ideal target for fanatics wanting to spread hatred). Obviously we don't need to get involved with the conflict but we need to monitor the situation for the safety of our own people here in Britain. lol most of them are here already

Aside from being racist that's also highly inaccurate... "

Here's a novel idea, why not just offer humanitarian aid then, instead of what seems to be the Labour and Conservative way of going about things which is go in all guns blazing. Thank fook the house of commons voted against the use of force i say, but we all know Cameron wanted to start dropping bombs on Syria, and supplying more weapons and arms to the rebels (hey arn't those rebels the Al-Qaida muslim extremist guys we were also fighting in Iraq and Afghanistan, now Cameron wants to give them more weapons, lol)

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"The fact that Nigel Farage represents the country in the EU is irony of the highest order, "Oh I don't think we should be in Europe but I don't mind being paid for being an MEP."

Quite honestly I think UKIP is a party for unintelligent old school Tories (and yes I am aware my OH has publicly admitted to being a Thatcherite before anyone pulls me on that one!)

It is run by a bunch of people who dislike anything that might threaten the United Kingdom's independence... Last time I looked we hadn't been invaded by anyone.

I honestly believe that this party has jumped on the back of people's neuroses about other "immigrants" and drawn them in.

We have bigger problems in this country than being in the European Union.

Ruby what bigger problems have the country got?

The budget deficit

Michael Gove bollocksing up the education system

Unemployment

Children being brought up below the breadline

Overcrowding in our prisons

The NHS being chronically underfunded and understaffed

Would you like me to continue because I will quite happily? "

maybe with all that you said is true maybe this little island of ours is getting overcrowded?

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"

As for defence and foreign policy again, Farage has said he would not allow this county to keep getting involved in wars which do not concern us. Anyone remember Iraq, Afghanistan, Libya, and so nearly we got into a war with Syria aswel.

Possibly with the exception of Iraq (well the reason for the invasion) all the others did/do concern us. why does Syria concern us?

The conflict in general doesn't there are, however, humanitarian concerns with the use of chemical weapons (regardless of which side has used them) then you have Al Qaeda pulling their old trick of moving into unsettled Arab states and setting up terrorist training camps (disillusioned people are the ideal target for fanatics wanting to spread hatred). Obviously we don't need to get involved with the conflict but we need to monitor the situation for the safety of our own people here in Britain. lol most of them are here already

Aside from being racist that's also highly inaccurate...

Here's a novel idea, why not just offer humanitarian aid then, instead of what seems to be the Labour and Conservative way of going about things which is go in all guns blazing. Thank fook the house of commons voted against the use of force i say, but we all know Cameron wanted to start dropping bombs on Syria, and supplying more weapons and arms to the rebels (hey arn't those rebels the Al-Qaida muslim extremist guys we were also fighting in Iraq and Afghanistan, now Cameron wants to give them more weapons, lol)"

you will be called a racsist soon lol

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

The Ukip smear campaign continues...

In other news Tony Blair walks free as a war criminal and his pal brown has still sold all our gold

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

I admire your enthusiasm. However this is a pointless debate. They have no prospects of election at all.

I will enjoy the sideshow as to whether the LibDems (hopefully) get the comeuppance they deserve, and whether the Tories lose some votes to UKIP. But a sideshow is all it will be.

Until the system changes (and it should) we're pretty much stuck between what we've got and what we've had.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"The Ukip smear campaign continues...

In other news Tony Blair walks free as a war criminal and his pal brown has still sold all our gold"

Not only walks free but isn't he our "Mid East Peace Envoy"?

Oh yeah, that's worked out well hasn't it?

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"The Ukip smear campaign continues...

In other news Tony Blair walks free as a war criminal and his pal brown has still sold all our gold"

Oh we're throwing in the abstract now.. hm.. Paddington Bear wears blue

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By *abioMan  over a year ago

Newcastle and Gateshead


"

The EU courts also tell us we must allow our Prisoners the right to vote while they are serving time in prison. Do you want murderers, rapists and paedophiles to be allowed to vote?

"

thats an easy soundbite and not quite true...

what the EU Court actually said is that if you are in prison at the time of an election, and you are due to finish your sentence within 1/2 the time of an electoral cycle.. you should be allowed to vote

which in our case would be anyone with less that 2 year to serve would be allowed to vote...

for example now.. if you got sentenced for a crime to prison for a week.. and that week happened to fall when an election was..... then the fact you can't vote would be unfair...

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"

As for defence and foreign policy again, Farage has said he would not allow this county to keep getting involved in wars which do not concern us. Anyone remember Iraq, Afghanistan, Libya, and so nearly we got into a war with Syria aswel.

Possibly with the exception of Iraq (well the reason for the invasion) all the others did/do concern us. why does Syria concern us?

The conflict in general doesn't there are, however, humanitarian concerns with the use of chemical weapons (regardless of which side has used them) then you have Al Qaeda pulling their old trick of moving into unsettled Arab states and setting up terrorist training camps (disillusioned people are the ideal target for fanatics wanting to spread hatred). Obviously we don't need to get involved with the conflict but we need to monitor the situation for the safety of our own people here in Britain. lol most of them are here already

Aside from being racist that's also highly inaccurate... don't call me racsist you don't no me ,it's called freedom of speech "

I didn't call YOU a racist, just your comment.

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By *abioMan  over a year ago

Newcastle and Gateshead


"Germany ,France, Italy , Spain. And the rest all want Great Britain to stay in the eu only because we put the most money into it

Of course we do. I think the Germans may dispute that but hey, what does that matter?"

that and for the best part of 20 years the uk were net winners because of the Rebate....

but like you said... it doesn't quite fit the narrative...

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"

As for defence and foreign policy again, Farage has said he would not allow this county to keep getting involved in wars which do not concern us. Anyone remember Iraq, Afghanistan, Libya, and so nearly we got into a war with Syria aswel.

Possibly with the exception of Iraq (well the reason for the invasion) all the others did/do concern us. why does Syria concern us?

The conflict in general doesn't there are, however, humanitarian concerns with the use of chemical weapons (regardless of which side has used them) then you have Al Qaeda pulling their old trick of moving into unsettled Arab states and setting up terrorist training camps (disillusioned people are the ideal target for fanatics wanting to spread hatred). Obviously we don't need to get involved with the conflict but we need to monitor the situation for the safety of our own people here in Britain. lol most of them are here already

Aside from being racist that's also highly inaccurate... don't call me racsist you don't no me ,it's called freedom of speech

I didn't call YOU a racist, just your comment. "

LOL in big type.

By your strange logic no one can be a racist, only the comment can be.

Carry on UKIP, as you were then.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"The Ukip smear campaign continues...

In other news Tony Blair walks free as a war criminal and his pal brown has still sold all our gold"

tony Blair and bush got rid of a evil dictator that's enuff for me ask the Iraq people if they are happy he has gone ? It's ok us saying those 2 where war mongers we didn't live with the evil he done to his own people

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"The fact that Nigel Farage represents the country in the EU is irony of the highest order, "Oh I don't think we should be in Europe but I don't mind being paid for being an MEP."

Quite honestly I think UKIP is a party for unintelligent old school Tories (and yes I am aware my OH has publicly admitted to being a Thatcherite before anyone pulls me on that one!)

It is run by a bunch of people who dislike anything that might threaten the United Kingdom's independence... Last time I looked we hadn't been invaded by anyone.

I honestly believe that this party has jumped on the back of people's neuroses about other "immigrants" and drawn them in.

We have bigger problems in this country than being in the European Union.

Ruby what bigger problems have the country got?

The budget deficit

Michael Gove bollocksing up the education system

Unemployment

Children being brought up below the breadline

Overcrowding in our prisons

The NHS being chronically underfunded and understaffed

Would you like me to continue because I will quite happily? maybe with all that you said is true maybe this little island of ours is getting overcrowded?"

Whilst it is getting crowded we rely on immigrants to do skilled jobs. We also have a problem with a proportion of the indigenous population who are too lazy to get off their backsides and will happily collect their benefits from the state.

I am proud of the fact that our country is multicultural, I am a descendant of Jewish refugees who fled the Polish/Lithuanian border hundreds of years ago because of persecution. I am proud that our country offers people who are genuinely in fear of their lives the right to live here.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"The Ukip smear campaign continues...

In other news Tony Blair walks free as a war criminal and his pal brown has still sold all our gold

Oh we're throwing in the abstract now.. hm.. Paddington Bear wears blue"

And David morons parting keeps changing sides.

But seriously, there is more outrage by the media and us here about what people SAY rather than what people have done.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"The Ukip smear campaign continues...

In other news Tony Blair walks free as a war criminal and his pal brown has still sold all our gold

Oh we're throwing in the abstract now.. hm.. Paddington Bear wears blue

And David morons parting keeps changing sides.

But seriously, there is more outrage by the media and us here about what people SAY rather than what people have done.

"

Politics is very much about what people say - isn't it?

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By *reelove1969Couple  over a year ago

bristol

sorry ...what was the question again ???

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By *nnyMan  over a year ago

Glasgow

In summary.

The Lib Dems are tearing themselves apart and the Tories are being run ragged by UKIP.

Not a bad day's work

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"

As for defence and foreign policy again, Farage has said he would not allow this county to keep getting involved in wars which do not concern us. Anyone remember Iraq, Afghanistan, Libya, and so nearly we got into a war with Syria aswel.

Possibly with the exception of Iraq (well the reason for the invasion) all the others did/do concern us. why does Syria concern us?

The conflict in general doesn't there are, however, humanitarian concerns with the use of chemical weapons (regardless of which side has used them) then you have Al Qaeda pulling their old trick of moving into unsettled Arab states and setting up terrorist training camps (disillusioned people are the ideal target for fanatics wanting to spread hatred). Obviously we don't need to get involved with the conflict but we need to monitor the situation for the safety of our own people here in Britain. lol most of them are here already

Aside from being racist that's also highly inaccurate...

Here's a novel idea, why not just offer humanitarian aid then, instead of what seems to be the Labour and Conservative way of going about things which is go in all guns blazing. Thank fook the house of commons voted against the use of force i say, but we all know Cameron wanted to start dropping bombs on Syria, and supplying more weapons and arms to the rebels (hey arn't those rebels the Al-Qaida muslim extremist guys we were also fighting in Iraq and Afghanistan, now Cameron wants to give them more weapons, lol)"

In a word 'no' those rebels are the ones fighting for their freedom from a tyrannical government.

Al Qaeda are the parasites that feed on the disillusioned and bereaved. They then twist peoples grief to their own means and that's how they recruit martyrs to the cause.

Dropping bombs on Syria would serve no good purpose but showing support and sending aid will speak volumes (hearts & minds). We will still need to monitor Al Qaeda's movements in the area and take action if they threaten our security or citizens.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

Just a thought. The feeling seems to be that only Tory voters are turning to the UKIP party.

Where are all the millions of disaffected "Liberals" going?

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By *yrdwomanWoman  over a year ago

Putting the 'cum' in Eboracum


"

Just a thought. The feeling seems to be that only Tory voters are turning to the UKIP party.

Where are all the millions of disaffected "Liberals" going? "

Green party

If you look up the opposite of liberal, you'll see UKIP.

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By *entaur_UKMan  over a year ago

Cannock


"

The EU courts also tell us we must allow our Prisoners the right to vote while they are serving time in prison. Do you want murderers, rapists and paedophiles to be allowed to vote?

thats an easy soundbite and not quite true...

what the EU Court actually said is that if you are in prison at the time of an election, and you are due to finish your sentence within 1/2 the time of an electoral cycle.. you should be allowed to vote

which in our case would be anyone with less that 2 year to serve would be allowed to vote...

for example now.. if you got sentenced for a crime to prison for a week.. and that week happened to fall when an election was..... then the fact you can't vote would be unfair..."

So if a murderer, rapist or paedophile has less than 2 years left to serve then they should be allowed to vote. Sorry but i don't want any of those prisoners to be allowed to vote.....ever.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"

As for defence and foreign policy again, Farage has said he would not allow this county to keep getting involved in wars which do not concern us. Anyone remember Iraq, Afghanistan, Libya, and so nearly we got into a war with Syria aswel.

Possibly with the exception of Iraq (well the reason for the invasion) all the others did/do concern us. why does Syria concern us?

The conflict in general doesn't there are, however, humanitarian concerns with the use of chemical weapons (regardless of which side has used them) then you have Al Qaeda pulling their old trick of moving into unsettled Arab states and setting up terrorist training camps (disillusioned people are the ideal target for fanatics wanting to spread hatred). Obviously we don't need to get involved with the conflict but we need to monitor the situation for the safety of our own people here in Britain. lol most of them are here already

Aside from being racist that's also highly inaccurate... don't call me racsist you don't no me ,it's called freedom of speech

I didn't call YOU a racist, just your comment.

LOL in big type.

By your strange logic no one can be a racist, only the comment can be.

Carry on UKIP, as you were then. "

Erm, how so?

I don't know them at all so calling them outright racists would be unfair and slanderous. However I thought that particular comment had a racist tone to it and I said so.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"

The EU courts also tell us we must allow our Prisoners the right to vote while they are serving time in prison. Do you want murderers, rapists and paedophiles to be allowed to vote?

thats an easy soundbite and not quite true...

what the EU Court actually said is that if you are in prison at the time of an election, and you are due to finish your sentence within 1/2 the time of an electoral cycle.. you should be allowed to vote

which in our case would be anyone with less that 2 year to serve would be allowed to vote...

for example now.. if you got sentenced for a crime to prison for a week.. and that week happened to fall when an election was..... then the fact you can't vote would be unfair...

So if a murderer, rapist or paedophile has less than 2 years left to serve then they should be allowed to vote. Sorry but i don't want any of those prisoners to be allowed to vote.....ever."

So rehabilitation is a myth then?

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"

Just a thought. The feeling seems to be that only Tory voters are turning to the UKIP party.

Where are all the millions of disaffected "Liberals" going?

Green party

If you look up the opposite of liberal, you'll see UKIP. "

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"

As for defence and foreign policy again, Farage has said he would not allow this county to keep getting involved in wars which do not concern us. Anyone remember Iraq, Afghanistan, Libya, and so nearly we got into a war with Syria aswel.

Possibly with the exception of Iraq (well the reason for the invasion) all the others did/do concern us. why does Syria concern us?

The conflict in general doesn't there are, however, humanitarian concerns with the use of chemical weapons (regardless of which side has used them) then you have Al Qaeda pulling their old trick of moving into unsettled Arab states and setting up terrorist training camps (disillusioned people are the ideal target for fanatics wanting to spread hatred). Obviously we don't need to get involved with the conflict but we need to monitor the situation for the safety of our own people here in Britain. lol most of them are here already

Aside from being racist that's also highly inaccurate... don't call me racsist you don't no me ,it's called freedom of speech

I didn't call YOU a racist, just your comment.

LOL in big type.

By your strange logic no one can be a racist, only the comment can be.

Carry on UKIP, as you were then.

Erm, how so?

I don't know them at all so calling them outright racists would be unfair and slanderous. However I thought that particular comment had a racist tone to it and I said so."

Just out of curiousity, which "Race" was the post attacking/ being derogatory about?

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"

As for defence and foreign policy again, Farage has said he would not allow this county to keep getting involved in wars which do not concern us. Anyone remember Iraq, Afghanistan, Libya, and so nearly we got into a war with Syria aswel.

Possibly with the exception of Iraq (well the reason for the invasion) all the others did/do concern us. why does Syria concern us?

The conflict in general doesn't there are, however, humanitarian concerns with the use of chemical weapons (regardless of which side has used them) then you have Al Qaeda pulling their old trick of moving into unsettled Arab states and setting up terrorist training camps (disillusioned people are the ideal target for fanatics wanting to spread hatred). Obviously we don't need to get involved with the conflict but we need to monitor the situation for the safety of our own people here in Britain. lol most of them are here already

Aside from being racist that's also highly inaccurate... don't call me racsist you don't no me ,it's called freedom of speech

I didn't call YOU a racist, just your comment.

LOL in big type.

By your strange logic no one can be a racist, only the comment can be.

Carry on UKIP, as you were then.

Erm, how so?

I don't know them at all so calling them outright racists would be unfair and slanderous. However I thought that particular comment had a racist tone to it and I said so."

ur favourite word ,

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By *entaur_UKMan  over a year ago

Cannock


"

Just a thought. The feeling seems to be that only Tory voters are turning to the UKIP party.

Where are all the millions of disaffected "Liberals" going?

Green party

If you look up the opposite of liberal, you'll see UKIP. "

UKIP are also taking a large chunk of the traditional Labour vote, i think Miliband, Balls and co are also very worried.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"

As for defence and foreign policy again, Farage has said he would not allow this county to keep getting involved in wars which do not concern us. Anyone remember Iraq, Afghanistan, Libya, and so nearly we got into a war with Syria aswel.

Possibly with the exception of Iraq (well the reason for the invasion) all the others did/do concern us. why does Syria concern us?

The conflict in general doesn't there are, however, humanitarian concerns with the use of chemical weapons (regardless of which side has used them) then you have Al Qaeda pulling their old trick of moving into unsettled Arab states and setting up terrorist training camps (disillusioned people are the ideal target for fanatics wanting to spread hatred). Obviously we don't need to get involved with the conflict but we need to monitor the situation for the safety of our own people here in Britain. lol most of them are here already

Aside from being racist that's also highly inaccurate... don't call me racsist you don't no me ,it's called freedom of speech

I didn't call YOU a racist, just your comment.

LOL in big type.

By your strange logic no one can be a racist, only the comment can be.

Carry on UKIP, as you were then.

Erm, how so?

I don't know them at all so calling them outright racists would be unfair and slanderous. However I thought that particular comment had a racist tone to it and I said so.

Just out of curiousity, which "Race" was the post attacking/ being derogatory about?

"

My perception of the post was anyone who wasn't British! That's a multitude of races!

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By *yrdwomanWoman  over a year ago

Putting the 'cum' in Eboracum


"

Just a thought. The feeling seems to be that only Tory voters are turning to the UKIP party.

Where are all the millions of disaffected "Liberals" going?

Green party

If you look up the opposite of liberal, you'll see UKIP.

UKIP are also taking a large chunk of the traditional Labour vote, i think Miliband, Balls and co are also very worried. "

A Labour vote where I live is a wasted vote, so I'll be voting Green.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"I'm voting UKIP as we need to get out of this stupid Socialist led EU which is making us all poorer & wrecking our once great country. "
They have my vote and and alot of people i know will be voting UKIP.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"

As for defence and foreign policy again, Farage has said he would not allow this county to keep getting involved in wars which do not concern us. Anyone remember Iraq, Afghanistan, Libya, and so nearly we got into a war with Syria aswel.

Possibly with the exception of Iraq (well the reason for the invasion) all the others did/do concern us. why does Syria concern us?

The conflict in general doesn't there are, however, humanitarian concerns with the use of chemical weapons (regardless of which side has used them) then you have Al Qaeda pulling their old trick of moving into unsettled Arab states and setting up terrorist training camps (disillusioned people are the ideal target for fanatics wanting to spread hatred). Obviously we don't need to get involved with the conflict but we need to monitor the situation for the safety of our own people here in Britain. lol most of them are here already

Aside from being racist that's also highly inaccurate... don't call me racsist you don't no me ,it's called freedom of speech

I didn't call YOU a racist, just your comment.

LOL in big type.

By your strange logic no one can be a racist, only the comment can be.

Carry on UKIP, as you were then.

Erm, how so?

I don't know them at all so calling them outright racists would be unfair and slanderous. However I thought that particular comment had a racist tone to it and I said so. ur favourite word ,"

Spot on.

Though if i may be so bold, :

"Ur favourite misused word."

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By *entaur_UKMan  over a year ago

Cannock


"

The EU courts also tell us we must allow our Prisoners the right to vote while they are serving time in prison. Do you want murderers, rapists and paedophiles to be allowed to vote?

thats an easy soundbite and not quite true...

what the EU Court actually said is that if you are in prison at the time of an election, and you are due to finish your sentence within 1/2 the time of an electoral cycle.. you should be allowed to vote

which in our case would be anyone with less that 2 year to serve would be allowed to vote...

for example now.. if you got sentenced for a crime to prison for a week.. and that week happened to fall when an election was..... then the fact you can't vote would be unfair...

So if a murderer, rapist or paedophile has less than 2 years left to serve then they should be allowed to vote. Sorry but i don't want any of those prisoners to be allowed to vote.....ever.

So rehabilitation is a myth then?

"

By all means rehabilitate prisoners......just don't allow them to vote while they are serving time in jail.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"

As for defence and foreign policy again, Farage has said he would not allow this county to keep getting involved in wars which do not concern us. Anyone remember Iraq, Afghanistan, Libya, and so nearly we got into a war with Syria aswel.

Possibly with the exception of Iraq (well the reason for the invasion) all the others did/do concern us. why does Syria concern us?

The conflict in general doesn't there are, however, humanitarian concerns with the use of chemical weapons (regardless of which side has used them) then you have Al Qaeda pulling their old trick of moving into unsettled Arab states and setting up terrorist training camps (disillusioned people are the ideal target for fanatics wanting to spread hatred). Obviously we don't need to get involved with the conflict but we need to monitor the situation for the safety of our own people here in Britain. lol most of them are here already

Aside from being racist that's also highly inaccurate... don't call me racsist you don't no me ,it's called freedom of speech

I didn't call YOU a racist, just your comment.

LOL in big type.

By your strange logic no one can be a racist, only the comment can be.

Carry on UKIP, as you were then.

Erm, how so?

I don't know them at all so calling them outright racists would be unfair and slanderous. However I thought that particular comment had a racist tone to it and I said so.

Just out of curiousity, which "Race" was the post attacking/ being derogatory about?

"

Read it for yourself and make your own mind up rather than play pedant. But I will say that the comment "they're all over here" points at any ethnic minority that happens to live, work or have asylum withing this country.

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By *abioMan  over a year ago

Newcastle and Gateshead


"

The EU courts also tell us we must allow our Prisoners the right to vote while they are serving time in prison. Do you want murderers, rapists and paedophiles to be allowed to vote?

thats an easy soundbite and not quite true...

what the EU Court actually said is that if you are in prison at the time of an election, and you are due to finish your sentence within 1/2 the time of an electoral cycle.. you should be allowed to vote

which in our case would be anyone with less that 2 year to serve would be allowed to vote...

for example now.. if you got sentenced for a crime to prison for a week.. and that week happened to fall when an election was..... then the fact you can't vote would be unfair...

So if a murderer, rapist or paedophile has less than 2 years left to serve then they should be allowed to vote. Sorry but i don't want any of those prisoners to be allowed to vote.....ever."

yeah... but you are forgetting something... if they are released they are allowed to vote anyway..... so your arguement it mute.....

and not UKIP policy..............

so lets take the example of the poll tax objecters.... they originally got 7 days in prison....

so if there had been an election that week... should they not be allowed the vote????

so if you are going to "quote" stories... at least get all the facts correct

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"

As for defence and foreign policy again, Farage has said he would not allow this county to keep getting involved in wars which do not concern us. Anyone remember Iraq, Afghanistan, Libya, and so nearly we got into a war with Syria aswel.

Possibly with the exception of Iraq (well the reason for the invasion) all the others did/do concern us. why does Syria concern us?

The conflict in general doesn't there are, however, humanitarian concerns with the use of chemical weapons (regardless of which side has used them) then you have Al Qaeda pulling their old trick of moving into unsettled Arab states and setting up terrorist training camps (disillusioned people are the ideal target for fanatics wanting to spread hatred). Obviously we don't need to get involved with the conflict but we need to monitor the situation for the safety of our own people here in Britain. lol most of them are here already

Aside from being racist that's also highly inaccurate... don't call me racsist you don't no me ,it's called freedom of speech

I didn't call YOU a racist, just your comment.

LOL in big type.

By your strange logic no one can be a racist, only the comment can be.

Carry on UKIP, as you were then.

Erm, how so?

I don't know them at all so calling them outright racists would be unfair and slanderous. However I thought that particular comment had a racist tone to it and I said so. ur favourite word ,"

Once again, for clarity, I didn't call you a racist just the comment that you made.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"

The EU courts also tell us we must allow our Prisoners the right to vote while they are serving time in prison. Do you want murderers, rapists and paedophiles to be allowed to vote?

thats an easy soundbite and not quite true...

what the EU Court actually said is that if you are in prison at the time of an election, and you are due to finish your sentence within 1/2 the time of an electoral cycle.. you should be allowed to vote

which in our case would be anyone with less that 2 year to serve would be allowed to vote...

for example now.. if you got sentenced for a crime to prison for a week.. and that week happened to fall when an election was..... then the fact you can't vote would be unfair...

So if a murderer, rapist or paedophile has less than 2 years left to serve then they should be allowed to vote. Sorry but i don't want any of those prisoners to be allowed to vote.....ever.

yeah... but you are forgetting something... if they are released they are allowed to vote anyway..... so your arguement it mute.....

and not UKIP policy..............

so lets take the example of the poll tax objecters.... they originally got 7 days in prison....

so if there had been an election that week... should they not be allowed the vote????

so if you are going to "quote" stories... at least get all the facts correct "

so do you think they should get a vote?

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

How about those serving suspended sentences?

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"How about those serving suspended sentences?"

Hanging's too good for 'em.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"How about those serving suspended sentences?

Hanging's too good for 'em. "

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"

Just a thought. The feeling seems to be that only Tory voters are turning to the UKIP party.

Where are all the millions of disaffected "Liberals" going?

Green party

If you look up the opposite of liberal, you'll see UKIP. "

Well yeah - unless it's for the 'good of the country' and they need to form a coalition

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"How about those serving suspended sentences?

Hanging's too good for 'em. "

You're sounding like me now!...

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By *ouple in LancashireCouple  over a year ago

in Lancashire


"I'm loving all these comments about right wing nutters & racists & that Farage is an arse. That is because those that say this have no arguement against their policies & so resort to insults. Can anyone come up with a couple of good reasons NOT to vote for UKIP but argue for it in a rational, logical & convincing manner? "

gotta love the irony of that statement given your usual vitriol at anything that differs from your yukrap agenda..

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By *nnyMan  over a year ago

Glasgow


"

Just a thought. The feeling seems to be that only Tory voters are turning to the UKIP party.

Where are all the millions of disaffected "Liberals" going?

Green party

If you look up the opposite of liberal, you'll see UKIP.

UKIP are also taking a large chunk of the traditional Labour vote, i think Miliband, Balls and co are also very worried. "

If Farage believes that, he's even dafter than some of his supporters on here.

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By *ouple in LancashireCouple  over a year ago

in Lancashire


"

1. Because they would not be capable of running a government.

2. Because they would not be elected to do so anyway."

agree with the first, the second i would change not to never..

mind you Hitler and his nazi's were elected in Germany..

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By *ouple in LancashireCouple  over a year ago

in Lancashire


"

1. Because they would not be capable of running a government.

2. Because they would not be elected to do so anyway."

agree with the first, the second i would change not to never..

mind you Hitler and his nazi's were elected in Germany..

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"

Just a thought. The feeling seems to be that only Tory voters are turning to the UKIP party.

Where are all the millions of disaffected "Liberals" going?

Green party

If you look up the opposite of liberal, you'll see UKIP.

UKIP are also taking a large chunk of the traditional Labour vote, i think Miliband, Balls and co are also very worried.

If Farage believes that, he's even dafter than some of his supporters on here."

bit offence don't you think? We ent daft

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"

1. Because they would not be capable of running a government.

2. Because they would not be elected to do so anyway.

agree with the first, the second i would change not to never..

mind you Hitler and his nazi's were elected in Germany..

"

Probably true. It's not impossible that there could be radical change in a few years time - depending on the state of play. But I still don't think UKIP would feature in that.

The next real change will come through technology - the social media generation. That has potential for all sorts of change, especially if people become disgruntled enough.

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By *ouple in LancashireCouple  over a year ago

in Lancashire


"

UKIP are also taking a large chunk of the traditional Labour vote, i think Miliband, Balls and co are also very worried.

If Farage believes that, he's even dafter than some of his supporters on here."

if anyone believes that they are politically naive, deluded or on planet zog..

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"

Just a thought. The feeling seems to be that only Tory voters are turning to the UKIP party.

Where are all the millions of disaffected "Liberals" going?

Green party

If you look up the opposite of liberal, you'll see UKIP.

UKIP are also taking a large chunk of the traditional Labour vote, i think Miliband, Balls and co are also very worried.

If Farage believes that, he's even dafter than some of his supporters on here."

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By *nnyMan  over a year ago

Glasgow


"

Just a thought. The feeling seems to be that only Tory voters are turning to the UKIP party.

Where are all the millions of disaffected "Liberals" going?

Green party

If you look up the opposite of liberal, you'll see UKIP.

UKIP are also taking a large chunk of the traditional Labour vote, i think Miliband, Balls and co are also very worried.

If Farage believes that, he's even dafter than some of his supporters on here. bit offence don't you think? We ent daft"

You must have missed the 'some'.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"

Just a thought. The feeling seems to be that only Tory voters are turning to the UKIP party.

Where are all the millions of disaffected "Liberals" going?

Green party

If you look up the opposite of liberal, you'll see UKIP.

UKIP are also taking a large chunk of the traditional Labour vote, i think Miliband, Balls and co are also very worried.

If Farage believes that, he's even dafter than some of his supporters on here. bit offence don't you think? We ent daft

You must have missed the 'some'.

"

typing to fast as u was offensive

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By *nnyMan  over a year ago

Glasgow


"

Just a thought. The feeling seems to be that only Tory voters are turning to the UKIP party.

Where are all the millions of disaffected "Liberals" going?

Green party

If you look up the opposite of liberal, you'll see UKIP.

UKIP are also taking a large chunk of the traditional Labour vote, i think Miliband, Balls and co are also very worried.

If Farage believes that, he's even dafter than some of his supporters on here. bit offence don't you think? We ent daft

You must have missed the 'some'.

typing to fast as u was offensive "

Were I?

If you're determined to be offended, you will be.

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By (user no longer on site) OP     over a year ago

I wonder which of you will get last post

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"

Just a thought. The feeling seems to be that only Tory voters are turning to the UKIP party.

Where are all the millions of disaffected "Liberals" going?

Green party

If you look up the opposite of liberal, you'll see UKIP.

UKIP are also taking a large chunk of the traditional Labour vote, i think Miliband, Balls and co are also very worried.

If Farage believes that, he's even dafter than some of his supporters on here. bit offence don't you think? We ent daft

You must have missed the 'some'.

typing to fast as u was offensive

Were I?

If you're determined to be offended, you will be."

you shouldn't judge people

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"I wonder which of you will get last post "
he will off to watch bb lol

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By *nnyMan  over a year ago

Glasgow


"

Just a thought. The feeling seems to be that only Tory voters are turning to the UKIP party.

Where are all the millions of disaffected "Liberals" going?

Green party

If you look up the opposite of liberal, you'll see UKIP.

UKIP are also taking a large chunk of the traditional Labour vote, i think Miliband, Balls and co are also very worried.

If Farage believes that, he's even dafter than some of his supporters on here. bit offence don't you think? We ent daft

You must have missed the 'some'.

typing to fast as u was offensive

Were I?

If you're determined to be offended, you will be. you shouldn't judge people"

Whyever not? So long as judgements are made on the basis of the available facts, what's the problem?

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By *yrdwomanWoman  over a year ago

Putting the 'cum' in Eboracum


"

Just a thought. The feeling seems to be that only Tory voters are turning to the UKIP party.

Where are all the millions of disaffected "Liberals" going?

Green party

If you look up the opposite of liberal, you'll see UKIP.

UKIP are also taking a large chunk of the traditional Labour vote, i think Miliband, Balls and co are also very worried.

If Farage believes that, he's even dafter than some of his supporters on here. bit offence don't you think? We ent daft

You must have missed the 'some'.

typing to fast as u was offensive

Were I?

If you're determined to be offended, you will be. you shouldn't judge people"

Why not? You've been judging people all the way down this post.

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By (user no longer on site) OP     over a year ago


"I wonder which of you will get last post he will off to watch bb lol"

Can I just check - because I'm confused - are you pro or anti UKIP. I'd like to know what kind of voter watches BB

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

ukip will win the next general election .one of the biggest shocks in british political history .and rightly so .i will vote for them .anyone who walks away from a helicopter crash is a lucky man .but on a more sensible note my country of birth .my ancestors country too is getting dragged down by several stupid namby pamby politicly correct goverments .stop fucking tip toeing around and worry more about the correct policies

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"I wonder which of you will get last post he will off to watch bb lol

Can I just check - because I'm confused - are you pro or anti UKIP. I'd like to know what kind of voter watches BB "

lol we r pro watching bb is better then looking at his dribble

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"ukip will win the next general election .one of the biggest shocks in british political history .and rightly so .i will vote for them .anyone who walks away from a helicopter crash is a lucky man .but on a more sensible note my country of birth .my ancestors country too is getting dragged down by several stupid namby pamby politicly correct goverments .stop fucking tip toeing around and worry more about the correct policies "

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By *yrdwomanWoman  over a year ago

Putting the 'cum' in Eboracum


"ukip will win the next general election .one of the biggest shocks in british political history .and rightly so .i will vote for them .anyone who walks away from a helicopter crash is a lucky man .but on a more sensible note my country of birth .my ancestors country too is getting dragged down by several stupid namby pamby politicly correct goverments .stop fucking tip toeing around and worry more about the correct policies "

If its alright by you I'll vote for a party that has the policies I agree with, not a party that would have prevented MY ancestors from fleeing religious persecution.

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By *ouple in LancashireCouple  over a year ago

in Lancashire


"ukip will win the next general election .one of the biggest shocks in british political history .and rightly so .i will vote for them .anyone who walks away from a helicopter crash is a lucky man .but on a more sensible note my country of birth .my ancestors country too is getting dragged down by several stupid namby pamby politicly correct goverments .stop fucking tip toeing around and worry more about the correct policies "

bet you a zillion smarties they wont..

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By *extoysareusCouple  over a year ago

kinky heaven

He's quoting as a statistic probably and he's probably right but does he need to say it?

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"ukip will win the next general election .one of the biggest shocks in british political history .and rightly so .i will vote for them .anyone who walks away from a helicopter crash is a lucky man .but on a more sensible note my country of birth .my ancestors country too is getting dragged down by several stupid namby pamby politicly correct goverments .stop fucking tip toeing around and worry more about the correct policies "

How many candidates are likely to stand?

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

I've just read his comments. He was talking about his field of business, banks and brokerage. He said he did not think there was sexual discrimination in big business anymore. He then added that a woman with a portfolio of clients (therefore bringing in a certain amount of money) who took two or three years out of work to have a family would be worth less to the company (bring in less money) when she returned because some of her clients would have moved on.

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By *extoysareusCouple  over a year ago

kinky heaven


"I've just read his comments. He was talking about his field of business, banks and brokerage. He said he did not think there was sexual discrimination in big business anymore. He then added that a woman with a portfolio of clients (therefore bringing in a certain amount of money) who took two or three years out of work to have a family would be worth less to the company (bring in less money) when she returned because some of her clients would have moved on.

"

exactly everyone should have a monetary worth and that is that

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By *yrdwomanWoman  over a year ago

Putting the 'cum' in Eboracum


"I've just read his comments. He was talking about his field of business, banks and brokerage. He said he did not think there was sexual discrimination in big business anymore. He then added that a woman with a portfolio of clients (therefore bringing in a certain amount of money) who took two or three years out of work to have a family would be worth less to the company (bring in less money) when she returned because some of her clients would have moved on.

"

Now if his party had a solution to that obvious disparity in how companies treat women there would be something to report.

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By *abioMan  over a year ago

Newcastle and Gateshead

ooooooh... I just like the delicious irony in that the farage supporters in the thread mocked the labour bloke for being a lawyer and saying they don't contribute to society, and yet farage was a stockbroker....

no better me thinks........

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