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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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If you read the forums enough, you'll see all sorts of debates going on with different perspectives, experiences and facts (some accurate some not).
But in amongst it you'll see some pure hatred. Seething, scathing comments with a vitriolic passion that's kind of unnerving to behonest. "im glad he's dead" etc.
I'm not perfect. I dislike some people, even some types, but to hate ? I like to think I avoid those I feel are negative influences to me as opposed to pursuing a war of propaganda.
Is it experiences, upbringing, education? What makes people hate ?
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By *yrdwomanWoman
over a year ago
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Oh my, the pop psychologists will be all over this one.
Seeing as I am a pop psychologist (  ) I think it's sometimes because they've had a bad experience with a certain thing. Or they have been brought up to hate certain things. Or peer pressure ie they feel they have to hate things to 'fit in'.
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All sorts of things...hate is such a strong word and there is a fine line between love and hate.,,both very over used words both used when you don't mean it. I've had some pretty rough moments in my life but I don't hate the people involved as I believe that hate can consume you...I dislike strongly certain people but don't hate them..I just think it's a common word to use and like I said sometimes you don't mean it..the same way with love. I don't believe that it's down to education etc I think it's down to individuals beliefs |
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I think those that are uneducated use the word hate more than others, like you experiences develop you as individual, I have had a few situations that could deem hating the other person/s but you learn to rise above that and deal with it as an adult. Dislike is a much better term.
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"I think those that are uneducated use the word hate more than others, like you experiences develop you as individual, I have had a few situations that could deem hating the other person/s but you learn to rise above that and deal with it as an adult. Dislike is a much better term.
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Oh I don't believe that uneducated use the word hate more....I know a fair few educated people that allow hatred to consume them |
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I'm neither uneducated nor stupid but there are a couple of people in this world that I can say I actually hate and wouldn't be unhappy to hear they had received their comeuppance. Also the hatred for them does not consume me, I rarely think of them. |
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"I think those that are uneducated use the word hate more than others, like you experiences develop you as individual, I have had a few situations that could deem hating the other person/s but you learn to rise above that and deal with it as an adult. Dislike is a much better term.
Oh I don't believe that uneducated use the word hate more....I know a fair few educated people that allow hatred to consume them "
Ah, I actually wrote that those who are uneducated use the word hate more than others, I didn't say that educated people didn't use it at all  |
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"I think those that are uneducated use the word hate more than others, like you experiences develop you as individual, I have had a few situations that could deem hating the other person/s but you learn to rise above that and deal with it as an adult. Dislike is a much better term.
Oh I don't believe that uneducated use the word hate more....I know a fair few educated people that allow hatred to consume them
Ah, I actually wrote that those who are uneducated use the word hate more than others, I didn't say that educated people didn't use it at all "
Well I still don't agree with your statement... |
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"I think those that are uneducated use the word hate more than others, like you experiences develop you as individual, I have had a few situations that could deem hating the other person/s but you learn to rise above that and deal with it as an adult. Dislike is a much better term.
Oh I don't believe that uneducated use the word hate more....I know a fair few educated people that allow hatred to consume them
Ah, I actually wrote that those who are uneducated use the word hate more than others, I didn't say that educated people didn't use it at all
Well I still don't agree with your statement... "
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Hate is a very destructive emotion, and can make a person bitter and twisted, that in turn could lead to health issues.
Rather than to hate a person for what he/she has done to me, I would adopt a don't care won't care attitude and forget about them instead.
Life is too short to waste time on those who have done me wrong.
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"I think those that are uneducated use the word hate more than others, like you experiences develop you as individual, I have had a few situations that could deem hating the other person/s but you learn to rise above that and deal with it as an adult. Dislike is a much better term.
Oh I don't believe that uneducated use the word hate more....I know a fair few educated people that allow hatred to consume them
Ah, I actually wrote that those who are uneducated use the word hate more than others, I didn't say that educated people didn't use it at all
Well I still don't agree with your statement...
well that's fine we'll agree to disagree "
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By (user no longer on site)
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Hate is a very strong word, used in its right context.
There's one person I know personally~who I hate so much, but people are right, hate eats you up.should really let it go
But I also hate people that hurt animals, children and innocent people and ones that rob people's homes
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By (user no longer on site) OP
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I think the word hate is commonly used, and isn't what I refer to... Hate,dislike,can't stand, its all semantics.
But pure hatred, really does sit uncomfortably with me.
I don't think I could hate something that hadn't directly affected me, but there are examples in the forums of posts whereby they clearly dislike with a vengeance something, even without providing some substance. Maybe its the way they articulate themselves.
Its encouraging to see the main focus of hate here is sprouts & chopped liver ! |
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"All sorts of things...hate is such a strong word and there is a fine line between love and hate.,,both very over used words both used when you don't mean it. I've had some pretty rough moments in my life but I don't hate the people involved as I believe that hate can consume you...I dislike strongly certain people but don't hate them..I just think it's a common word to use and like I said sometimes you don't mean it..the same way with love. I don't believe that it's down to education etc I think it's down to individuals beliefs "
Entirely agree with this post in both sentiment and in relation to the OP's question.
Hate has become a very common word and has lost alot of its strength in seriousness so thats why these days people use it for anything. My friend the other day shouted that he hated his maid, doesnt mean he truely does. Its just that nowadays exaggerated speech is very common. |
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hate and love are misused in the same way that straving is. People say "I hate semolina but I love rice pudding" they don't mean it, people say "I'm starving" they aren't. I personally strongly dislike the misuse of the word starving while I can just about tolerate the misuse of the other two words.
That said I think some people have a lot of anger inside them and actually do hate certain people, opinions and actions...I find it quite scary. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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I avoid subject matters that are too emotive on FAB and other forum boards that I participate, as I do not need to be reminded that life is not plain sailing and rosy all the time.
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" I think the word hate is commonly used, and isn't what I refer to... Hate,dislike,can't stand, its all semantics.
But pure hatred, really does sit uncomfortably with me.
I don't think I could hate something that hadn't directly affected me, but there are examples in the forums of posts whereby they clearly dislike with a vengeance something, even without providing some substance. Maybe its the way they articulate themselves.
Its encouraging to see the main focus of hate here is sprouts & chopped liver ! "
 although I'm standing up for sprouts and chopped liver! |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
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"I avoid subject matters that are too emotive on FAB and other forum boards that I participate, as I do not need to be reminded that life is not plain sailing and rosy all the time.
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very true....Sunday morning wasn'ta good starting time for this, but some posts on a thread about someone dying prompted it. I really really ha.....don't like raw celery. |
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"All sorts of things...hate is such a strong word and there is a fine line between love and hate.,,both very over used words both used when you don't mean it. I've had some pretty rough moments in my life but I don't hate the people involved as I believe that hate can consume you...I dislike strongly certain people but don't hate them..I just think it's a common word to use and like I said sometimes you don't mean it..the same way with love. I don't believe that it's down to education etc I think it's down to individuals beliefs
Entirely agree with this post in both sentiment and in relation to the OP's question.
Hate has become a very common word and has lost alot of its strength in seriousness so thats why these days people use it for anything. My friend the other day shouted that he hated his maid, doesnt mean he truely does. Its just that nowadays exaggerated speech is very common. "
Your friend has a maid ? |
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"Hate is a very destructive emotion, and can make a person bitter and twisted, that in turn could lead to health issues.
Rather than to hate a person for what he/she has done to me, I would adopt a don't care won't care attitude and forget about them instead.
Life is too short to waste time on those who have done me wrong.
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You reap as you sew, spread love and forgiveness instead. |
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By *icentiousCouple
over a year ago
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"I find it worrying, especially when it is over something really trivial.
I suppose it just proves we are all wired up differently.
I don't like sprouts either "
Can't imagine what made someone try sprouts , bet they made Marmite too....  |
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By (user no longer on site)
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very true....Sunday morning wasn'ta good starting time for this, but some posts on a thread about someone dying prompted it. I really really ha.....don't like raw celery."
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Have you tried adding some soft cheese to it? Those processed cheeses in a tube are great for filling the hollow of a celery stick. |
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" If you read the forums enough, you'll see all sorts of debates going on with different perspectives, experiences and facts (some accurate some not).
But in amongst it you'll see some pure hatred. Seething, scathing comments with a vitriolic passion that's kind of unnerving to behonest. "im glad he's dead" etc.
I'm not perfect. I dislike some people, even some types, but to hate ? I like to think I avoid those I feel are negative influences to me as opposed to pursuing a war of propaganda.
Is it experiences, upbringing, education? What makes people hate ?
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Fear and Ignorance. |
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By *ugby 123Couple
over a year ago
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"I find it worrying, especially when it is over something really trivial.
I suppose it just proves we are all wired up differently.
I don't like sprouts either
Can't imagine what made someone try sprouts , bet they made Marmite too.... "
I think it is was my OH as he likes both pesky things !! |
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I do wonder sometimes how people can get so wound up and aggressive over the internet..I then wonder if they are like that on the internet I wonder what they are like in real life..it's a scary thought. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"I find it worrying, especially when it is over something really trivial.
I suppose it just proves we are all wired up differently.
I don't like sprouts either
Can't imagine what made someone try sprouts , bet they made Marmite too.... "
Sprouts are evil. I think they are something to do with the anti-Christ. |
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"I do wonder sometimes how people can get so wound up and aggressive over the internet..I then wonder if they are like that on the internet I wonder what they are like in real life..it's a scary thought."
They're 47, live at home with their mum who chooses their clothes and accompanies them to Marks and Spencers on Saturdays |
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"lots of people get extremely upset when someone disgarees with them and find it impossible to have a reasoned and calm argument. I think these are the ones who express their _iews so strongly. "
Do you mean our fine crop of "know it alls" who will argue that black is in fact white even if they have seen neither? |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
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very true....Sunday morning wasn'ta good starting time for this, but some posts on a thread about someone dying prompted it. I really really ha.....don't like raw celery.
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Have you tried adding some soft cheese to it? Those processed cheeses in a tube are great for filling the hollow of a celery stick. "
I'm going to try that, just so I can rip the vile green beast into pieces and spit it out in a chewed pulp on the plate shouting sprouts have nothing on you.
On a more serious note, Granny mentioned fear ? Can that instill pure hate ? Or misguided opinion only. |
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"I do wonder sometimes how people can get so wound up and aggressive over the internet..I then wonder if they are like that on the internet I wonder what they are like in real life..it's a scary thought.
They're 47, live at home with their mum who chooses their clothes and accompanies them to Marks and Spencers on Saturdays "
. Oi behave lol I'm 39 and live with my mum! I don't shop in marks she does haha just made sence when I split with ex for me to buy her house and escape inheritance tax when the time comes not all of us are saddos hahaha |
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"lots of people get extremely upset when someone disgarees with them and find it impossible to have a reasoned and calm argument. I think these are the ones who express their _iews so strongly.
Do you mean our fine crop of "know it alls" who will argue that black is in fact white even if they have seen neither?"
The very same . |
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"I do wonder sometimes how people can get so wound up and aggressive over the internet..I then wonder if they are like that on the internet I wonder what they are like in real life..it's a scary thought.
They're 47, live at home with their mum who chooses their clothes and accompanies them to Marks and Spencers on Saturdays . Oi behave lol I'm 39 and live with my mum! I don't shop in marks she does haha just made sence when I split with ex for me to buy her house and escape inheritance tax when the time comes not all of us are saddos hahaha"
Lol, bet she doesn't choose your clothes though |
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By (user no longer on site)
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I hate the sound of noisy eaters. It has a medical name 'misophonia' so it's not my fault!
I hate liquorice too. I don't want to, but I do.
I don't think I've met anybody I hate. Usually I don't think too much about people I don't care for. |
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"I do wonder sometimes how people can get so wound up and aggressive over the internet..I then wonder if they are like that on the internet I wonder what they are like in real life..it's a scary thought.
They're 47, live at home with their mum who chooses their clothes and accompanies them to Marks and Spencers on Saturdays . Oi behave lol I'm 39 and live with my mum! I don't shop in marks she does haha just made sence when I split with ex for me to buy her house and escape inheritance tax when the time comes not all of us are saddos hahaha
Lol, bet she doesn't choose your clothes though "
. Not a chance lol mind you she does dress well for her age!! |
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"I do wonder sometimes how people can get so wound up and aggressive over the internet..I then wonder if they are like that on the internet I wonder what they are like in real life..it's a scary thought.
They're 47, live at home with their mum who chooses their clothes and accompanies them to Marks and Spencers on Saturdays . Oi behave lol I'm 39 and live with my mum! I don't shop in marks she does haha just made sence when I split with ex for me to buy her house and escape inheritance tax when the time comes not all of us are saddos hahaha
Lol, bet she doesn't choose your clothes though . Not a chance lol mind you she does dress well for her age!! "
seriously though....you do know I was joking? |
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"All sorts of things...hate is such a strong word and there is a fine line between love and hate.,,both very over used words both used when you don't mean it. I've had some pretty rough moments in my life but I don't hate the people involved as I believe that hate can consume you...I dislike strongly certain people but don't hate them..I just think it's a common word to use and like I said sometimes you don't mean it..the same way with love. I don't believe that it's down to education etc I think it's down to individuals beliefs
Entirely agree with this post in both sentiment and in relation to the OP's question.
Hate has become a very common word and has lost alot of its strength in seriousness so thats why these days people use it for anything. My friend the other day shouted that he hated his maid, doesnt mean he truely does. Its just that nowadays exaggerated speech is very common.
Your friend has a maid ?"
Yeah I currently on holiday in Barbados and have a friend that lives out here. Most people around higher middle class have maids and house helps. |
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I used to hate and scare of thunder and lightening, that's when I was a young child, and was told by my elders that it was to do with the gods being angry with me, blah blah blah...
Then I grew older and learnt about how thunder and lightening are formed at geography lessons.
Since then, they do not bother me, and I love thunderstorms. In fact, I would happily sit in the front of my tent and watch one of nature's best free spectacle.
So yes to fear and ignorance can lead to hate.
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I hate tax dodgers! Guys I work with taking home £50k+ and paying not one penny of national insurance,+ minimum income tax. Then they're always the first to complain about the crap police or state of the hospitals etc etc,  Then when the tax man does catch up, the company folds and they start again! Grrrr! |
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"Is hating something bad? Surely it can also be good?
How ?
I'd say no it can never be good."
If Nelson Mandela hadn't hated Apartheid, would the world today look the same? |
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"Forget that ...
I thought you said hating someone..... "
So it was wrong to hate Hitler? Just strongly disagree with his foreign policy maybe? Very stiff upper lip! |
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"Oh my, the pop psychologists will be all over this one.
Seeing as I am a pop psychologist ( ) I think it's sometimes because they've had a bad experience with a certain thing. Or they have been brought up to hate certain things. Or peer pressure ie they feel they have to hate things to 'fit in'.
The only thing I hate are sprouts. Evil little things, I can hear them plotting."
I am so agreeing with that, sprouts are the devils work |
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"Is hating something bad? Surely it can also be good?
How ?
I'd say no it can never be good.
If Nelson Mandela hadn't hated Apartheid, would the world today look the same?"
Did he hate it, or know there was something better ? If you trully hate something can you ever approach the subject with an objective mindset? |
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over a year ago
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"I'm neither uneducated nor stupid but there are a couple of people in this world that I can say I actually hate and wouldn't be unhappy to hear they had received their comeuppance. Also the hatred for them does not consume me, I rarely think of them."
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I have taught my children that "Hate" is a very needless word and it takes a lot to really truly hate someone or something. The word that i like to use "Dislike"
My eldest daughter has told me that she hated me on a couple of occasions and all i said to her was "Ok i will stop doing everything i do for you for 24hrs and we will see if you still hate me after" Having to sit and watch us all eat dinner brought her round very quickly to saying sorry !! |
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"Is hating something bad? Surely it can also be good?
How ?
I'd say no it can never be good.
If Nelson Mandela hadn't hated Apartheid, would the world today look the same?
Did he hate it, or know there was something better ? If you trully hate something can you ever approach the subject with an objective mindset? "
Do you think Apartheid South Africa was any place for an "objective mindset"  . |
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"I have taught my children that "Hate" is a very needless word and it takes a lot to really truly hate someone or something. The word that i like to use "Dislike"
My eldest daughter has told me that she hated me on a couple of occasions and all i said to her was "Ok i will stop doing everything i do for you for 24hrs and we will see if you still hate me after" Having to sit and watch us all eat dinner brought her round very quickly to saying sorry !! "
That's a sweet anecdote, but you had the good fortune to redress your young daughters words.
Some people aren't allowed to defend themselves from the hatred by the hater as its gone too far. I work in a job where people have told me they hate me for what I am without meeting me. And it really has been hatred. How do we diffuse such hatred and anger... Other than by throwing sprouts at them of course ? |
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"lots of people get extremely upset when someone disgarees with them and find it impossible to have a reasoned and calm argument. I think these are the ones who express their _iews so strongly. "
I agree. I think "hate" often reflects the speaker's frustration at the world rather than an accurate description of their feelings. |
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Well gandhis none violent approach acheived alot for india....im sure he hated the way the british raped, robbed and pillaged what little they already had! Now the tories are running back to india to set up major corporate deals with them |
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"Is hating something bad? Surely it can also be good?
How ?
I'd say no it can never be good.
If Nelson Mandela hadn't hated Apartheid, would the world today look the same?
Did he hate it, or know there was something better ? If you trully hate something can you ever approach the subject with an objective mindset?
Do you think Apartheid South Africa was any place for an "objective mindset" ."
Apparently it was. Wouldn't have ended otherwise would it? |
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"Is hating something bad? Surely it can also be good?
How ?
I'd say no it can never be good.
If Nelson Mandela hadn't hated Apartheid, would the world today look the same?
Did he hate it, or know there was something better ? If you trully hate something can you ever approach the subject with an objective mindset?
Do you think Apartheid South Africa was any place for an "objective mindset" ."
I'm simply posing the question, as hatred from one side usually prompts it in the other as opposed to persuading a different mindsetk? |
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"I have taught my children that "Hate" is a very needless word and it takes a lot to really truly hate someone or something. The word that i like to use "Dislike"
My eldest daughter has told me that she hated me on a couple of occasions and all i said to her was "Ok i will stop doing everything i do for you for 24hrs and we will see if you still hate me after" Having to sit and watch us all eat dinner brought her round very quickly to saying sorry !!
That's a sweet anecdote, but you had the good fortune to redress your young daughters words.
Some people aren't allowed to defend themselves from the hatred by the hater as its gone too far. I work in a job where people have told me they hate me for what I am without meeting me. And it really has been hatred. How do we diffuse such hatred and anger... Other than by throwing sprouts at them of course ? "
Traffic warden eh? |
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"Is hating something bad? Surely it can also be good?
How ?
I'd say no it can never be good.
If Nelson Mandela hadn't hated Apartheid, would the world today look the same?
Did he hate it, or know there was something better ? If you trully hate something can you ever approach the subject with an objective mindset?
Do you think Apartheid South Africa was any place for an "objective mindset" .
I'm simply posing the question, as hatred from one side usually prompts it in the other as opposed to persuading a different mindsetk?"
I think if we were talking about 2 rival football fans then you'd have a point. |
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I am probably hated by some of my colleagues for upholding the rules and regulations that apply to my industrial sector, however, I would like to believe they respect me because I am only doing my job, and I do it very well. |
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"I have taught my children that "Hate" is a very needless word and it takes a lot to really truly hate someone or something. The word that i like to use "Dislike"
My eldest daughter has told me that she hated me on a couple of occasions and all i said to her was "Ok i will stop doing everything i do for you for 24hrs and we will see if you still hate me after" Having to sit and watch us all eat dinner brought her round very quickly to saying sorry !!
That's a sweet anecdote, but you had the good fortune to redress your young daughters words.
Some people aren't allowed to defend themselves from the hatred by the hater as its gone too far. I work in a job where people have told me they hate me for what I am without meeting me. And it really has been hatred. How do we diffuse such hatred and anger... Other than by throwing sprouts at them of course ?
Traffic warden eh?"
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"Hate / love can be the same thing.
They really can't.
....for me they can and are"
Not really the same but with the passion of experiencing one is usually the same
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"Forget that ...
I thought you said hating someone.....
So it was wrong to hate Hitler? Just strongly disagree with his foreign policy maybe? Very stiff upper lip!"
Poor old Hitler. Dragged out everytime someone wants a Demon.
What you have posted is commonly known as ( don't discuss logically but try and say something populist that has no bearing on what was asked in the first place ) or a straw man .... neither stand up in reality.
You are confusing a person and their policies. |
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I've hated people but only ever in very short passionate bursts....after the initial anger and hatred has gone it just sort of sits there..quietly fading but never disappearing.... |
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"I have taught my children that "Hate" is a very needless word and it takes a lot to really truly hate someone or something. The word that i like to use "Dislike"
My eldest daughter has told me that she hated me on a couple of occasions and all i said to her was "Ok i will stop doing everything i do for you for 24hrs and we will see if you still hate me after" Having to sit and watch us all eat dinner brought her round very quickly to saying sorry !! "
Did she still hate you though ? |
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"I dislike many things, however, only really hate a few, and can't even remember what they are!
Oh, one of them is over-cooked rubbery liver, yuk!!! 
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By *nnyMan
over a year ago
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"Well gandhis none violent approach acheived alot for india....im sure he hated the way the british raped, robbed and pillaged what little they already had! Now the tories are running back to india to set up major corporate deals with them "
It's a neat trick. Tories appease the Indians with public money so their pals in private business can profit. |
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"Hate / love can be the same thing.
They really can't.
....for me they can and are
Den and Angie Watts?
I don't really know how to break to you that they were fictitous."
It was an example from popular culture that folks maybe able to relate to. And please ask any jew you like wether they hated Hitler or just his policies. |
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"I've hated people but only ever in very short passionate bursts....after the initial anger and hatred has gone it just sort of sits there..quietly fading but never disappearing.... "
I don't think I hate a single soul.
I'll keep thinking about it though. |
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"Hate / love can be the same thing.
They really can't.
....for me they can and are
Den and Angie Watts?
I don't really know how to break to you that they were fictitous.
It was an example from popular culture that folks maybe able to relate to. And please ask any jew you like wether they hated Hitler or just his policies. "
No. I don't think I will.
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By (user no longer on site)
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I think I prefer intensely dislike and not hate, I used to hate someone but have grown up now I think as if we see each other in the street, we say hello, nothing more; I think if I hated him I would ignore him but find that disrespectful so will stick with intensely dislike.
And I lovvvveeeeee brussel sprouts |
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hate is a deep emotion and is cause of deep un rest within the person as all emotions come from within so hate developes from a persons perspective . education love and respect can help broaden that perspective and alow a person happyness but only by them being brave enough to face there problems if not they form a bubble to help them get by but not feeling any real emotion |
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"Hate is a very destructive emotion, and can make a person bitter and twisted, that in turn could lead to health issues.
Rather than to hate a person for what he/she has done to me, I would adopt a don't care won't care attitude and forget about them instead.
Life is too short to waste time on those who have done me wrong.
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That's all very well but what if you can not get away from the people you hate. We can't. |
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"Oh my, the pop psychologists will be all over this one.
Seeing as I am a pop psychologist ( ) I think it's sometimes because they've had a bad experience with a certain thing. Or they have been brought up to hate certain things. Or peer pressure ie they feel they have to hate things to 'fit in'.
The only thing I hate are sprouts. Evil little things, I can hear them plotting.
I am so agreeing with that, sprouts are the devils work "
No they are not, broad beans are, gross disgusting vile things |
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By *ugby 123Couple
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"I have taught my children that "Hate" is a very needless word and it takes a lot to really truly hate someone or something. The word that i like to use "Dislike"
My eldest daughter has told me that she hated me on a couple of occasions and all i said to her was "Ok i will stop doing everything i do for you for 24hrs and we will see if you still hate me after" Having to sit and watch us all eat dinner brought her round very quickly to saying sorry !! "
Was she saying sorry because she was hungryand knew it would help her get fed ? |
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"I dislike many things, however, only really hate a few, and can't even remember what they are!
Oh, one of them is over-cooked rubbery liver, yuk!!!
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I agree with you there, reminds me of the crumbly mush we used to get at school and was many years before I could eat liver again. Prefer the good quality stuff, fried to just past the blood stage in its own juices in wholemeal bread with branston pickle nom nom nom |
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"I do wonder sometimes how people can get so wound up and aggressive over the internet..I then wonder if they are like that on the internet I wonder what they are like in real life..it's a scary thought.
They're 47, live at home with their mum who chooses their clothes and accompanies them to Marks and Spencers on Saturdays "
I am 47and live at home with my mum, however we shop at Marks on Monday as it's quieter  |
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Hopefully nothing I post ! I think the same. Rather taken aback at some comments, but always wonder if the author has the conviction to talk the same in the real world.
If you can't say it to someone's face you shouldn't write it on the net is my motto |
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That's all very well but what if you can not get away from the people you hate. We can't. "
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Can't or won't?
Don't care if the person is blood-related or not, if he/she has done me wrong, he/she will be ex-communicated, and sod family value and responsibility!
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"People who sit in judgement over other people's use of the English language.
That would be misuse "
Is it though? Is there a chart that shows where dislike must turn into hate and vice versa? Why can't I say I "hate peas"? Who decides? I find people who say it's such a strong word and shouldn't be used lightly etc are just people who like to judge and belittle others. Like those who say "oh I hardly ever watch TV, I'd rather read" or "I'm a vegan, I just can't understand meat eaters" etc etc. just let people get on with life, stop judging and oppressing. You're not impressing anyone. |
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"I have taught my children that "Hate" is a very needless word and it takes a lot to really truly hate someone or something. The word that i like to use "Dislike"
My eldest daughter has told me that she hated me on a couple of occasions and all i said to her was "Ok i will stop doing everything i do for you for 24hrs and we will see if you still hate me after" Having to sit and watch us all eat dinner brought her round very quickly to saying sorry !!
Was she saying sorry because she was hungryand knew it would help her get fed ?"
That was exactly what I thought. Seems a confusing lesson to teach not to hate by demonstrating love as a dependence. |
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"I have taught my children that "Hate" is a very needless word and it takes a lot to really truly hate someone or something. The word that i like to use "Dislike"
My eldest daughter has told me that she hated me on a couple of occasions and all i said to her was "Ok i will stop doing everything i do for you for 24hrs and we will see if you still hate me after" Having to sit and watch us all eat dinner brought her round very quickly to saying sorry !!
That's a sweet anecdote, but you had the good fortune to redress your young daughters words.
Some people aren't allowed to defend themselves from the hatred by the hater as its gone too far. I work in a job where people have told me they hate me for what I am without meeting me. And it really has been hatred. How do we diffuse such hatred and anger... Other than by throwing sprouts at them of course ? "
How can they hate you without knowing you? Hope you don't let it get to you. Words hurt but eventually you get numb to it. And numb to everything else too unfortunately. |
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"People who sit in judgement over other people's use of the English language.
That would be misuse
Is it though? Is there a chart that shows where dislike must turn into hate and vice versa? Why can't I say I "hate peas"? Who decides? I find people who say it's such a strong word and shouldn't be used lightly etc are just people who like to judge and belittle others. Like those who say "oh I hardly ever watch TV, I'd rather read" or "I'm a vegan, I just can't understand meat eaters" etc etc. just let people get on with life, stop judging and oppressing. You're not impressing anyone. "
Great analogy!! |
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" If you read the forums enough, you'll see all sorts of debates going on with different perspectives, experiences and facts (some accurate some not).
But in amongst it you'll see some pure hatred. Seething, scathing comments with a vitriolic passion that's kind of unnerving to behonest. "im glad he's dead" etc.
I'm not perfect. I dislike some people, even some types, but to hate ? I like to think I avoid those I feel are negative influences to me as opposed to pursuing a war of propaganda.
Is it experiences, upbringing, education? What makes people hate ?
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i agree with the many other people have stated on this post that hate is a very strong word, however i also believe that some of the comments made on the forums would not be made in the real world because the reaction is a) instantaneous and b) there is the physical aspect (looking someone in the eye) were as in the cyber world (forums) the screen acts as a shield thus giving the user a form of protection, therefore i do take some so of the more distasteful comments with a large pinch of salt |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
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True, but the original post was aimed at people using very strong language, and whilst not wishing to get into semantics, we can all see the differences between the casual use of the word and apparent, true venom. |
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I know someone that hates everyone and everything. I think it was his upbringing. It made him hate and he turns it on himself too. Some people that grew up in the same kind of situation turned it around, fought against it and used that early hatred to become better, nicer people.
I never figured out why each turned out differently. Just that the hater will never change.
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