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over a year ago
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"Has anyone seen her?
Is she any good?
I watch her a lot, she's really good, not seen her live though  "
She is doing a tour, wanted to know if worth the money? |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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"I get the impression you are not a believer!? Ha
I have worked as a psychic and clairvoyant for 35 years, so yes I am a believer."
Are you? Interesting |
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over a year ago
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I watched a programme following her and on one of the shows she held a picture from someone in the audience and went on for about five minutes of what this person was like and the message he was sending to them ( she said it was their grandad ).....when she stopped the two women said " but thats a pic of my grandmother"
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Has anyone seen her?
Is she any good?
I watch her a lot, she's really good, not seen her live though
She is doing a tour, wanted to know if worth the money?"
I'm not claiming to see into the future, but I think you'll enjoy it! |
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"I watched a programme following her and on one of the shows she held a picture from someone in the audience and went on for about five minutes of what this person was like and the message he was sending to them ( she said it was their grandad ).....when she stopped the two women said " but thats a pic of my grandmother"
ooopppsss "
oooops indeed! Ha |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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She's wore an ear piece of stage...quite telling!
She's also channelled a fictitious character on stage before
She's also using cold reading techniques.
So yeah, no such thing as psychics |
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"She's wore an ear piece of stage...quite telling!
She's also channelled a fictitious character on stage before
She's also using cold reading techniques.
So yeah, no such thing as psychics"
Reminds me of Derek acorah lol |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Has anyone seen her?
Is she any good?
I watch her a lot, she's really good, not seen her live though
She is doing a tour, wanted to know if worth the money?"
I imagine tickets are about £12, so as I say an evenings entertainment, for the price of a take away or couple of portions of fish and chips, hardly a rip off, an evening out, the secret , as with all things in life, have no expectations, just enjoy it for what it is, entertainment.
Alternatively, try a Thursday evening at any spiritualist church, 50p for a coffee, and join in an open circle. if you are looking for something specific, will probably suit you better. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"She's wore an ear piece of stage...quite telling!
She's also channelled a fictitious character on stage before
She's also using cold reading techniques.
So yeah, no such thing as psychics"
was there not something, not too long ago, where her mic went down, and instead of the audience hearing her, they heard someone backstage feeding her information?
i dont like her, or her ilk.
true mediums, that truly believe they have a gift and want to help people, will never look for reward.
i believe there are people that can see things, or read things in people, but im also of the mindset that, do things happen because they were meant to, or because you were told they were going to, so subconsciously, you made it happen |
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"Has anyone seen her?
Is she any good?
I watch her a lot, she's really good, not seen her live though
She is doing a tour, wanted to know if worth the money?
I imagine tickets are about £12, so as I say an evenings entertainment, for the price of a take away or couple of portions of fish and chips, hardly a rip off, an evening out, the secret , as with all things in life, have no expectations, just enjoy it for what it is, entertainment.
Alternatively, try a Thursday evening at any spiritualist church, 50p for a coffee, and join in an open circle. if you are looking for something specific, will probably suit you better."
It's £30 a ticket....  |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Has anyone seen her?
Is she any good?
I watch her a lot, she's really good, not seen her live though
She is doing a tour, wanted to know if worth the money?
I imagine tickets are about £12, so as I say an evenings entertainment, for the price of a take away or couple of portions of fish and chips, hardly a rip off, an evening out, the secret , as with all things in life, have no expectations, just enjoy it for what it is, entertainment.
Alternatively, try a Thursday evening at any spiritualist church, 50p for a coffee, and join in an open circle. if you are looking for something specific, will probably suit you better.
It's £30 a ticket.... "
times a few thousand people= a decent night for her |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"She's wore an ear piece of stage...quite telling!
She's also channelled a fictitious character on stage before
She's also using cold reading techniques.
So yeah, no such thing as psychics
Reminds me of Derek acorah lol"
Indeed lol.
What annoys me about these people is they refuse to take any scientific tests. There's been on in America for decades that offers a million dollars to anyone who can prove they are psychic. No one has claimed the prize and every tv psychic refuses to do it saying they have got better things to do!
So not advancing humanity or poring to the world there is life after death? Better things to do than that? Houdini once said it's not for us to disprove psychics it's for psychics to prove psychic phenomena to us |
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I once paid to see a psychic, she told me I would have 2 children by the age of 27, and would be happily married for a short period, and it would end amicably by the time I was 35.
Well I'm 35 at the end of the month, it's going to be a very short marriage, and as for the 2 kids by 27.... well she really fell short there.
However, I accompanied my sister to the spiritualist church a year or so ago, I was told that my Nanna wanted to tell me something, she told me that it was ok to forgive myself for the miscarriage I had when I was a teenager. No one outside of the family knew about that. |
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"Has anyone seen her?
Is she any good?
I watch her a lot, she's really good, not seen her live though
She is doing a tour, wanted to know if worth the money?
I imagine tickets are about £12, so as I say an evenings entertainment, for the price of a take away or couple of portions of fish and chips, hardly a rip off, an evening out, the secret , as with all things in life, have no expectations, just enjoy it for what it is, entertainment.
Alternatively, try a Thursday evening at any spiritualist church, 50p for a coffee, and join in an open circle. if you are looking for something specific, will probably suit you better.
It's £30 a ticket....
times a few thousand people= a decent night for her"
It just don't rest easy with me....mum and dad knew this healer and the things he done were amazing especially with horses and he took no payment at all...he loved his whiskey so mum used to give him a bottle of whiskey....he told me a few things when I was a child that would happen and some have come true |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"She's wore an ear piece of stage...quite telling!
She's also channelled a fictitious character on stage before
She's also using cold reading techniques.
So yeah, no such thing as psychics
was there not something, not too long ago, where her mic went down, and instead of the audience hearing her, they heard someone backstage feeding her information?
i dont like her, or her ilk.
true mediums, that truly believe they have a gift and want to help people, will never look for reward.
i believe there are people that can see things, or read things in people, but im also of the mindset that, do things happen because they were meant to, or because you were told they were going to, so subconsciously, you made it happen"
That's what cold reading it all about. It's reading significance in to something if the recipient wants to read signficance into it.
These people make millions as well! If their powers are a gift to the world why charge so much? Con artists the lot of em! |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"She's wore an ear piece of stage...quite telling!
She's also channelled a fictitious character on stage before
She's also using cold reading techniques.
So yeah, no such thing as psychics
was there not something, not too long ago, where her mic went down, and instead of the audience hearing her, they heard someone backstage feeding her information?
i dont like her, or her ilk.
true mediums, that truly believe they have a gift and want to help people, will never look for reward.
i believe there are people that can see things, or read things in people, but im also of the mindset that, do things happen because they were meant to, or because you were told they were going to, so subconsciously, you made it happen
That's what cold reading it all about. It's reading significance in to something if the recipient wants to read signficance into it.
These people make millions as well! If their powers are a gift to the world why charge so much? Con artists the lot of em!"
see, and thats why i like that fella that does all the channel 4 programs (cant remember his name right now, but it will come to me)
he make no bones about the fact he has NO psychic ability whatsoever, he has just learned to read and manipulate people, and that to me is even more impressive |
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"She's wore an ear piece of stage...quite telling!
She's also channelled a fictitious character on stage before
She's also using cold reading techniques.
So yeah, no such thing as psychics
was there not something, not too long ago, where her mic went down, and instead of the audience hearing her, they heard someone backstage feeding her information?
i dont like her, or her ilk.
true mediums, that truly believe they have a gift and want to help people, will never look for reward.
i believe there are people that can see things, or read things in people, but im also of the mindset that, do things happen because they were meant to, or because you were told they were going to, so subconsciously, you made it happen
That's what cold reading it all about. It's reading significance in to something if the recipient wants to read signficance into it.
These people make millions as well! If their powers are a gift to the world why charge so much? Con artists the lot of em!
see, and thats why i like that fella that does all the channel 4 programs (cant remember his name right now, but it will come to me)
he make no bones about the fact he has NO psychic ability whatsoever, he has just learned to read and manipulate people, and that to me is even more impressive"
Derren brown? |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"She's wore an ear piece of stage...quite telling!
She's also channelled a fictitious character on stage before
She's also using cold reading techniques.
So yeah, no such thing as psychics
was there not something, not too long ago, where her mic went down, and instead of the audience hearing her, they heard someone backstage feeding her information?
i dont like her, or her ilk.
true mediums, that truly believe they have a gift and want to help people, will never look for reward.
i believe there are people that can see things, or read things in people, but im also of the mindset that, do things happen because they were meant to, or because you were told they were going to, so subconsciously, you made it happen
That's what cold reading it all about. It's reading significance in to something if the recipient wants to read signficance into it.
These people make millions as well! If their powers are a gift to the world why charge so much? Con artists the lot of em!
see, and thats why i like that fella that does all the channel 4 programs (cant remember his name right now, but it will come to me)
he make no bones about the fact he has NO psychic ability whatsoever, he has just learned to read and manipulate people, and that to me is even more impressive
Derren brown?"
thats the fella
the special he did in america where he went to show people he was a psychic was truly awesome, and showed ust how bullshit a lot of these people are |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"She's wore an ear piece of stage...quite telling!
She's also channelled a fictitious character on stage before
She's also using cold reading techniques.
So yeah, no such thing as psychics"
Yeah, its a mic...so the audience can hear her! 
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"She's wore an ear piece of stage...quite telling!
She's also channelled a fictitious character on stage before
She's also using cold reading techniques.
So yeah, no such thing as psychics
was there not something, not too long ago, where her mic went down, and instead of the audience hearing her, they heard someone backstage feeding her information?
i dont like her, or her ilk.
true mediums, that truly believe they have a gift and want to help people, will never look for reward.
i believe there are people that can see things, or read things in people, but im also of the mindset that, do things happen because they were meant to, or because you were told they were going to, so subconsciously, you made it happen
That's what cold reading it all about. It's reading significance in to something if the recipient wants to read signficance into it.
These people make millions as well! If their powers are a gift to the world why charge so much? Con artists the lot of em!
see, and thats why i like that fella that does all the channel 4 programs (cant remember his name right now, but it will come to me)
he make no bones about the fact he has NO psychic ability whatsoever, he has just learned to read and manipulate people, and that to me is even more impressive"
But Derren Brown isn't a psychic, that's why he states that he has got NO psychic ability... 
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Has anyone seen her?
Is she any good?
I watch her a lot, she's really good, not seen her live though
She is doing a tour, wanted to know if worth the money?
I imagine tickets are about £12, so as I say an evenings entertainment, for the price of a take away or couple of portions of fish and chips, hardly a rip off, an evening out, the secret , as with all things in life, have no expectations, just enjoy it for what it is, entertainment.
Alternatively, try a Thursday evening at any spiritualist church, 50p for a coffee, and join in an open circle. if you are looking for something specific, will probably suit you better.
It's £30 a ticket.... "
gosh I haven't been out for years. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"She's wore an ear piece of stage...quite telling!
She's also channelled a fictitious character on stage before
She's also using cold reading techniques.
So yeah, no such thing as psychics
Yeah, its a mic...so the audience can hear her!
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Actually its a producer or assistant, giving instructions, ie, move on, when you are working as a medium, clairvoyant, time has no meaning, and you need pushing on sometimes, when her ear piece fell out, everyone could hear her assistant, not feeding her info, just moving the show along. |
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"She's wore an ear piece of stage...quite telling!
She's also channelled a fictitious character on stage before
She's also using cold reading techniques.
So yeah, no such thing as psychics
was there not something, not too long ago, where her mic went down, and instead of the audience hearing her, they heard someone backstage feeding her information?
i dont like her, or her ilk.
true mediums, that truly believe they have a gift and want to help people, will never look for reward.
i believe there are people that can see things, or read things in people, but im also of the mindset that, do things happen because they were meant to, or because you were told they were going to, so subconsciously, you made it happen
That's what cold reading it all about. It's reading significance in to something if the recipient wants to read signficance into it.
These people make millions as well! If their powers are a gift to the world why charge so much? Con artists the lot of em!
see, and thats why i like that fella that does all the channel 4 programs (cant remember his name right now, but it will come to me)
he make no bones about the fact he has NO psychic ability whatsoever, he has just learned to read and manipulate people, and that to me is even more impressive
But Derren Brown isn't a psychic, that's why he states that he has got NO psychic ability...
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That's the point! |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"She's wore an ear piece of stage...quite telling!
She's also channelled a fictitious character on stage before
She's also using cold reading techniques.
So yeah, no such thing as psychics
Yeah, its a mic...so the audience can hear her!
Actually its a producer or assistant, giving instructions, ie, move on, when you are working as a medium, clairvoyant, time has no meaning, and you need pushing on sometimes, when her ear piece fell out, everyone could hear her assistant, not feeding her info, just moving the show along."
Look closer, mic attached to it!  |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"She's wore an ear piece of stage...quite telling!
She's also channelled a fictitious character on stage before
She's also using cold reading techniques.
So yeah, no such thing as psychics
was there not something, not too long ago, where her mic went down, and instead of the audience hearing her, they heard someone backstage feeding her information?
i dont like her, or her ilk.
true mediums, that truly believe they have a gift and want to help people, will never look for reward.
i believe there are people that can see things, or read things in people, but im also of the mindset that, do things happen because they were meant to, or because you were told they were going to, so subconsciously, you made it happen
That's what cold reading it all about. It's reading significance in to something if the recipient wants to read signficance into it.
These people make millions as well! If their powers are a gift to the world why charge so much? Con artists the lot of em!
see, and thats why i like that fella that does all the channel 4 programs (cant remember his name right now, but it will come to me)
he make no bones about the fact he has NO psychic ability whatsoever, he has just learned to read and manipulate people, and that to me is even more impressive
But Derren Brown isn't a psychic, that's why he states that he has got NO psychic ability...
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i know
thats what i said |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"These people make millions as well! If their powers are a gift to the world why charge so much? Con artists the lot of em!"
I doubt you will find any are millionaires, just normal people doing a job, yes they have to eat and have a roof, but not many have much more, unlike footballers and singers who are millionaires for a job, many people could do. |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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"Has anyone seen her?
Is she any good?
I watch her a lot, she's really good, not seen her live though
She is doing a tour, wanted to know if worth the money?
I imagine tickets are about £12, so as I say an evenings entertainment, for the price of a take away or couple of portions of fish and chips, hardly a rip off, an evening out, the secret , as with all things in life, have no expectations, just enjoy it for what it is, entertainment.
Alternatively, try a Thursday evening at any spiritualist church, 50p for a coffee, and join in an open circle. if you are looking for something specific, will probably suit you better."
She is £35 |
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By (user no longer on site)
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Some folk will always be negative about this kinda thing, and try to make others feel gullible or stupid for NOT condemning everyone who doesn't think like they do! |
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By (user no longer on site)
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""These people make millions as well! If their powers are a gift to the world why charge so much? Con artists the lot of em!"
I doubt you will find any are millionaires, just normal people doing a job, yes they have to eat and have a roof, but not many have much more, unlike footballers and singers who are millionaires for a job, many people could do."
really? i mean, i can carry a tune and everything, but a chart topper?
never, and i would never have the discipline to be a top level sports star.
sorry, it takes years to hone your craft, and i really do beleive, and its been proven, anyone could be a 'psychic' by learning the correct signs and reads. |
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I've known someone go to see her in two separate locations and the same 4-5 people were picked from the audience with messages in both locations.
In regards to the tickets pay cash or get someone else to buy them and don't reveal your name easy enough to research individuals when the got your address etc |
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By (user no longer on site)
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To be good at anything takes practise and commitment, from the shows on television, many popstars cant sing well, without technology and back up, in fact many never sing live, because without the technology they wouldn't be any good. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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""These people make millions as well! If their powers are a gift to the world why charge so much? Con artists the lot of em!"
I doubt you will find any are millionaires, just normal people doing a job, yes they have to eat and have a roof, but not many have much more, unlike footballers and singers who are millionaires for a job, many people could do.
really? i mean, i can carry a tune and everything, but a chart topper?
never, and i would never have the discipline to be a top level sports star.
sorry, it takes years to hone your craft, and i really do believe, and its been proven, anyone could be a 'psychic' by learning the correct signs and reads."
Of course anyone can do it... But you've gotta believe in your abilities before you can expect someone else to...
How many believe?  |
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By (user no longer on site)
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Surely it is in the interests of mediums, psychics and clairvoyants to prove the validity of their claims.
Whether their motive is financial or not there should be no requirement for faith on the part of the person recieving information.
I am not choosing to state in this post that it is deception, I am simply asking whether it is reasonable to assume that in is in the interests of these individuals to prove their validity? |
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By (user no longer on site)
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Everyone is born with a sixth sense, most people don't go on to use or develop it.
We teach children how to talk, when they can talk, we tell them to be quiet.
We teach children how to walk, when they can walk, we tell them to sit still.
Some singers and sports men/women have a gift, that is natural, some use it, some don't, some develop their skill/ gift, some don't. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Surely it is in the interests of mediums, psychics and clairvoyants to prove the validity of their claims.
Whether their motive is financial or not there should be no requirement for faith on the part of the person recieving information.
I am not choosing to state in this post that it is deception, I am simply asking whether it is reasonable to assume that in is in the interests of these individuals to prove their validity? "
I have worked as a clairvoyant for 35 years, for the past 15 on line, not ever seeing my clients, or hearing their voices, I am as only as good as my last reading, every client is asked to leave a rating for potential clients to see, Every rating is displayed and none are edited. As technology advances, live chat readings are now offered, so my clients can watch me, but I still cant see or hear them. |
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To be fair I'd rather not know what's in store for me...as for speaking to loved ones that have passed over I do that myself by asking what am I meant to do...I usually get a gut feeling when Im being guided to the right decision....call me bonkers or whatever I just believe I have someone watching over me....  |
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"Surely it is in the interests of mediums, psychics and clairvoyants to prove the validity of their claims.
Whether their motive is financial or not there should be no requirement for faith on the part of the person recieving information.
I am not choosing to state in this post that it is deception, I am simply asking whether it is reasonable to assume that in is in the interests of these individuals to prove their validity? "
Who would you have them prove their "validity" to? |
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"Surely it is in the interests of mediums, psychics and clairvoyants to prove the validity of their claims.
Whether their motive is financial or not there should be no requirement for faith on the part of the person recieving information.
I am not choosing to state in this post that it is deception, I am simply asking whether it is reasonable to assume that in is in the interests of these individuals to prove their validity? "
I'm willing to say it's deception. All, and I mean ALL psychics are frauds and charlatans. And if you really truly believe that you can communicate with the dead, go and tell your doctor that. See how quickly they cart you away.
I think this man can put it more eloquently than me. http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=HhGuXCuDb1U |
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By *UNCHBOXMan
over a year ago
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"She's wore an ear piece of stage...quite telling!
She's also channelled a fictitious character on stage before
She's also using cold reading techniques.
So yeah, no such thing as psychics"
I believe she sued the daily mail for publishing those allegations and won £125,000.
I personally wouldn't believe anyone has has a 'special gift' unless they can prove it in a controlled indpendent environment. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Surely it is in the interests of mediums, psychics and clairvoyants to prove the validity of their claims.
Whether their motive is financial or not there should be no requirement for faith on the part of the person recieving information.
I am not choosing to state in this post that it is deception, I am simply asking whether it is reasonable to assume that in is in the interests of these individuals to prove their validity?
I'm willing to say it's deception. All, and I mean ALL psychics are frauds and charlatans. And if you really truly believe that you can communicate with the dead, go and tell your doctor that. See how quickly they cart you away.
I think this man can put it more eloquently than me. http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=HhGuXCuDb1U"
You say they are ALL frauds?
Got any proof of that claim? |
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By (user no longer on site)
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Every one of us is intuitive, the strongest link is between a mother and her child, predictions have no place in clairvoyance, your future is what you make it.
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.The best day of your life is the one on which you decide your life is your own.
No apologies, no excuses,
No one lean on, rely on, or blame.
The gift is yours - it is an amazing journey - and you alone are responsible for the quality of it.
This is the day your life really begins. |
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By *stwo80Couple
over a year ago
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"I get the impression you are not a believer!? Ha
I have worked as a psychic and clairvoyant for 35 years, so yes I am a believer."
. ............................................... In that case could you tell us if her tour turns out to be a success then ? |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"She's wore an ear piece of stage...quite telling!
She's also channelled a fictitious character on stage before
She's also using cold reading techniques.
So yeah, no such thing as psychics
I believe she sued the daily mail for publishing those allegations and won £125,000.
I personally wouldn't believe anyone has has a 'special gift' unless they can prove it in a controlled indpendent environment."
A medium, says they can talk to the dead.
A clairvoyant has clear vision.
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"She's wore an ear piece of stage...quite telling!
She's also channelled a fictitious character on stage before
She's also using cold reading techniques.
So yeah, no such thing as psychics
I believe she sued the daily mail for publishing those allegations and won £125,000.
I personally wouldn't believe anyone has has a 'special gift' unless they can prove it in a controlled indpendent environment."
To a bunch of negative scientists who don't even know what TESTS would even prove the exsistance of a "special gift" |
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"I get the impression you are not a believer!? Ha
I have worked as a psychic and clairvoyant for 35 years, so yes I am a believer.. ............................................... In that case could you tell us if her tour turns out to be a success then ? "
Of course it will she is an experienced showman, and gives people what they want to hear, in some cases that is hope and comfort.
Her shows usually sell out, and she certainly doesn't anything, other than a good night out in the theatre.
and you don't have to be psychic to know that, you just look at past events. |
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"She's wore an ear piece of stage...quite telling!
She's also channelled a fictitious character on stage before
She's also using cold reading techniques.
So yeah, no such thing as psychics
I believe she sued the daily mail for publishing those allegations and won £125,000.
I personally wouldn't believe anyone has has a 'special gift' unless they can prove it in a controlled indpendent environment.
To a bunch of negative scientists who don't even know what TESTS would even prove the exsistance of a "special gift""
We are all the same, no one has a special gift, its about developing a sense we are all born with. There is certainly nothing to prove.
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"She's wore an ear piece of stage...quite telling!
She's also channelled a fictitious character on stage before
She's also using cold reading techniques.
So yeah, no such thing as psychics
I believe she sued the daily mail for publishing those allegations and won £125,000.
I personally wouldn't believe anyone has has a 'special gift' unless they can prove it in a controlled indpendent environment.
To a bunch of negative scientists who don't even know what TESTS would even prove the exsistance of a "special gift""
so 'the gift' cannot be proved nor disproved.
how convenient.
what tests should be in place to test for 'the gift'?
what my nan had for breakfast on 14 december 1937?
what date my grandad escaped the clutches of the nazi death camps?
maybe start with an easy one
whats my name?
i am generally open minded about things in the universe that we dont understand, as there is plenty of it, but if im not going to swallow everything scientists tell me they can prove, i dont see why i should believe someone telling me my nan died and had a limp on her right arm |
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"Surely it is in the interests of mediums, psychics and clairvoyants to prove the validity of their claims.
Whether their motive is financial or not there should be no requirement for faith on the part of the person recieving information.
I am not choosing to state in this post that it is deception, I am simply asking whether it is reasonable to assume that in is in the interests of these individuals to prove their validity?
I'm willing to say it's deception. All, and I mean ALL psychics are frauds and charlatans. And if you really truly believe that you can communicate with the dead, go and tell your doctor that. See how quickly they cart you away.
I think this man can put it more eloquently than me. http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=HhGuXCuDb1U
You say they are ALL frauds?
Got any proof of that claim? "
It's not for me to prove that they can't, it's them that should be proving they can. If someone makes a claim it's up to them to substantiate that claim, not just say "you can't prove I'm lying, so there" |
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"Surely it is in the interests of mediums, psychics and clairvoyants to prove the validity of their claims.
Whether their motive is financial or not there should be no requirement for faith on the part of the person recieving information.
I am not choosing to state in this post that it is deception, I am simply asking whether it is reasonable to assume that in is in the interests of these individuals to prove their validity?
I have worked as a clairvoyant for 35 years, for the past 15 on line, not ever seeing my clients, or hearing their voices, I am as only as good as my last reading, every client is asked to leave a rating for potential clients to see, Every rating is displayed and none are edited. As technology advances, live chat readings are now offered, so my clients can watch me, but I still cant see or hear them."
Why are you stating that you're only as good as your last reading, why are all of your clients asked to leave a rating that you then publically display?
Is it because of your personal attempts to offer validity to what you do?
These are not loaded question and I stress I am not choosing to judge in this post, I just want to understand whether you believe it is in your interests to be able to validate your claims. |
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over a year ago
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"She's wore an ear piece of stage...quite telling!
She's also channelled a fictitious character on stage before
She's also using cold reading techniques.
So yeah, no such thing as psychics
I believe she sued the daily mail for publishing those allegations and won £125,000.
I personally wouldn't believe anyone has has a 'special gift' unless they can prove it in a controlled indpendent environment.
To a bunch of negative scientists who don't even know what TESTS would even prove the exsistance of a "special gift""
Like someone has mentioned before, James Randi has offered a million dollars for anyone who can show under proper observing conditions evidence of it. No one has ever even passed the preliminary test. The key words here are 'under proper observing conditions'. |
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"Surely it is in the interests of mediums, psychics and clairvoyants to prove the validity of their claims.
Whether their motive is financial or not there should be no requirement for faith on the part of the person recieving information.
I am not choosing to state in this post that it is deception, I am simply asking whether it is reasonable to assume that in is in the interests of these individuals to prove their validity?
Who would you have them prove their "validity" to? "
Their clients and themselves. |
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"She's wore an ear piece of stage...quite telling!
She's also channelled a fictitious character on stage before
She's also using cold reading techniques.
So yeah, no such thing as psychics
I believe she sued the daily mail for publishing those allegations and won £125,000.
I personally wouldn't believe anyone has has a 'special gift' unless they can prove it in a controlled indpendent environment.
To a bunch of negative scientists who don't even know what TESTS would even prove the exsistance of a "special gift"
Like someone has mentioned before, James Randi has offered a million dollars for anyone who can show under proper observing conditions evidence of it. No one has ever even passed the preliminary test. The key words here are 'under proper observing conditions'. "
The prize has been offered since 1964. |
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We are all the same, no one has a special gift, its about developing a sense we are all born with. There is certainly nothing to prove.
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I fully agree, everyone has the same potential, the same gifts, should we ever be arsed to acknowledge and develop them, the only people who seek prove, are those who seem to mock others for having beliefs in the unknown!
There are those mediums who actively deceive for personal gain, but Sally Morgan is defo not one of them IMO. |
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"Surely it is in the interests of mediums, psychics and clairvoyants to prove the validity of their claims.
Whether their motive is financial or not there should be no requirement for faith on the part of the person recieving information.
I am not choosing to state in this post that it is deception, I am simply asking whether it is reasonable to assume that in is in the interests of these individuals to prove their validity?
Who would you have them prove their "validity" to?
Their clients and themselves. "
Not required! |
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Most , if not all are scam artists out to make money out of those who are very down and vulnerable. They use tricks once used in the theatres years ago...... Ive seen people dragged under by those claiming "powers" and seen them lose tons of money. The whole bloody lot should be banned  |
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Like someone has mentioned before, James Randi has offered a million dollars for anyone who can show under proper observing conditions evidence of it. No one has ever even passed the preliminary test. The key words here are 'under proper observing conditions'. "
How many have approached James Randi to take the test?
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"Surely it is in the interests of mediums, psychics and clairvoyants to prove the validity of their claims.
Whether their motive is financial or not there should be no requirement for faith on the part of the person recieving information.
I am not choosing to state in this post that it is deception, I am simply asking whether it is reasonable to assume that in is in the interests of these individuals to prove their validity?
Who would you have them prove their "validity" to?
Their clients and themselves.
Not required! "
By you, no.
But it's a fact that you do not talk for everyone purporting to be a medium, psychic or clairvoyant.
I don't need to be a clairvoyant to be certain of that!
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"Surely it is in the interests of mediums, psychics and clairvoyants to prove the validity of their claims.
Whether their motive is financial or not there should be no requirement for faith on the part of the person recieving information.
I am not choosing to state in this post that it is deception, I am simply asking whether it is reasonable to assume that in is in the interests of these individuals to prove their validity?
Who would you have them prove their "validity" to?
Their clients and themselves.
Not required!
By you, no.
But it's a fact that you do not talk for everyone purporting to be a medium, psychic or clairvoyant.
I don't need to be a clairvoyant to be certain of that!
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Not required by those seeking contact with their loved ones, by me, by law, by society....so..I kinda CAN speak for everyone as a member of society, we're currently NOT seeking a change in law, which means we as society DO NOT demand it...simples!  |
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over a year ago
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Like someone has mentioned before, James Randi has offered a million dollars for anyone who can show under proper observing conditions evidence of it. No one has ever even passed the preliminary test. The key words here are 'under proper observing conditions'. "
For a good laugh search youtube for the psychic that was on This Morning. Asked about the Randl challenge she said she'd take it no problem. As soon as the programme was off air she changed her mind 
There's a million dollars up for grabs if you can prove your abilities. Even if they don't want the money themselves think of all the good they could do by winning the money and then giving it all away to charity. And yet no one has... |
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so, as it cant be disproved, it has to be real, the same as ghosts, aliens, 9/11 conspiracies, the Mayan calendar (which btw didnt bring about the end of the world), scientology, christianity, and any of the other bull religions that you care to mention.
you believe in absolutely everything thats put forward to you? |
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"Surely it is in the interests of mediums, psychics and clairvoyants to prove the validity of their claims.
Whether their motive is financial or not there should be no requirement for faith on the part of the person recieving information.
I am not choosing to state in this post that it is deception, I am simply asking whether it is reasonable to assume that in is in the interests of these individuals to prove their validity?
Who would you have them prove their "validity" to?
Their clients and themselves.
Not required!
By you, no.
But it's a fact that you do not talk for everyone purporting to be a medium, psychic or clairvoyant.
I don't need to be a clairvoyant to be certain of that!
Not required by those seeking contact with their loved ones, by me, by law, by society....so..I kinda CAN speak for everyone as a member of society, we're currently NOT seeking a change in law, which means we as society DO NOT demand it...simples! "
You CAN do whatever you want, but it is a FACT that you do not speak for everyone.
A simple question for you. Is there any other reason for the existence of testimonials for the benefit of third parties if the the motivation isn't based in 'validity'. |
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A simple question for you. Is there any other reason for the existence of testimonials for the benefit of third parties if the the motivation isn't based in 'validity'. "
Most that seek it, receive it in the message...validation is personal to the one receiving the message, only they can decide its validity! |
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A simple question for you. Is there any other reason for the existence of testimonials for the benefit of third parties if the the motivation isn't based in 'validity'.
Most that seek it, receive it in the message...validation is personal to the one receiving the message, only they can decide its validity! "
seeings as most charlatans, i mean psychics, prey on the vulnerable, then no, validation from those that are being conned is none too reliable |
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seeings as most charlatans, i mean psychics, prey on the vulnerable, then no, validation from those that are being conned is none too reliable"
But you've hardly got an open mind on the subject have you? |
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seeings as most charlatans, i mean psychics, prey on the vulnerable, then no, validation from those that are being conned is none too reliable
But you've hardly got an open mind on the subject have you? "
yep, i neither believe nor disbelieve it, for the most part.
however it has mostly been shown up to be false, so until otherwise proven, i err on the side of caution.
whereas you are obviously hook line and sinker a believer.
i asked before, is there anything unproven that you dont believe in? |
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over a year ago
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The burden of proof on any claim is on those who make the claim, it isn't on others to disprove it.
The famous philosopher Bertrand Russell summed this up perfectly with his teapot analogy. Basically he can claim there is a tiny teapot that can't be seen by telscopes etc orbiting between earth and mars. It is then nonsensical to expect others to believe him on the grounds they can't prove him wrong. |
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"why are all of your clients asked to leave a rating that you then publically display?"
Most businesses who use the internet, ebay, amazon and many more request feedback, as to the service they provide.
I work for a German media company, and it is their policy to ask clients for feedback, it is one way of knowing if you are offering the best customer experience possible. |
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""why are all of your clients asked to leave a rating that you then publically display?"
Most businesses who use the internet, ebay, amazon and many more request feedback, as to the service they provide.
I work for a German media company, and it is their policy to ask clients for feedback, it is one way of knowing if you are offering the best customer experience possible."
Don't waste your money on sally morgan, she's making a shed load of cash for her shows and you probably won't get a reading from her due to the sheer number of people at her shows, plus I have heard she isn't genuine so I wouldn't waste £35 when you could go to your local spiritualist church for free and just donate £1 for attendance and meet clairvoyants who don't charge for readings.
Im open minded to it all, I wouldn't dismiss it completely, as humans we can't possibly have found Everything out about the universe and our own in built abilities, how do we know there isnt more to discover?
I think there are alot of crooks who prey on the vunerable though and these are the ones to avoid, a spiritualist church is your best bet instead of these fame and money hungry showmen like Morgan and Achorah. |
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A simple question for you. Is there any other reason for the existence of testimonials for the benefit of third parties if the the motivation isn't based in 'validity'.
Most that seek it, receive it in the message...validation is personal to the one receiving the message, only they can decide its validity! "
In you're previous post you said it is 'not required by those seeking cantact'. Your very next response to me starts 'most that seek it, recieve it in the message'.
Can you not see the clear ambiguity of your argument?
If I look past the holes in your argument and try to accept that 'validation is personal' then why do we have any form of testimony?
Just to reiterate, I am in no way questioning on this thread the authenticity of your belief. I just want to know if it is reasonable to assume it's in the interests of people who choose to push this belief to validate or have it validated.
Given the choice, is it better for them that the only validation is faith? |
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""why are all of your clients asked to leave a rating that you then publically display?"
Most businesses who use the internet, ebay, amazon and many more request feedback, as to the service they provide.
I work for a German media company, and it is their policy to ask clients for feedback, it is one way of knowing if you are offering the best customer experience possible."
Most businesses that use the Internet including eBay and Amazon offer a quantifiable, measureable service that is validated and therefore carries some form of guarantee as to it's authenticity. The correct product either arrives or it doesn't. Feedback is simply free advertising and a desire to 'spread the word'.
Do you think that eBay, Amazon or most businesses would suggest in any way that it is NOT in their interest to have their service validated?
Are you saying that it is in the interests of mediums, psychics and clairvoyants to be validated? |
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""why are all of your clients asked to leave a rating that you then publically display?"
Most businesses who use the internet, ebay, amazon and many more request feedback, as to the service they provide.
I work for a German media company, and it is their policy to ask clients for feedback, it is one way of knowing if you are offering the best customer experience possible.
Most businesses that use the Internet including eBay and Amazon offer a quantifiable, measureable service that is validated and therefore carries some form of guarantee as to it's authenticity. The correct product either arrives or it doesn't. Feedback is simply free advertising and a desire to 'spread the word'.
Do you think that eBay, Amazon or most businesses would suggest in any way that it is NOT in their interest to have their service validated?
Are you saying that it is in the interests of mediums, psychics and clairvoyants to be validated?"
Most consumers like choice, and value for money. Feedback from past clients helps people select the type of reading they want, and the reader they feel a connection with.
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seeings as most charlatans, i mean psychics, prey on the vulnerable, then no, validation from those that are being conned is none too reliable
But you've hardly got an open mind on the subject have you?
yep, i neither believe nor disbelieve it, for the most part.
however it has mostly been shown up to be false, so until otherwise proven, i err on the side of caution.
whereas you are obviously hook line and sinker a believer.
i asked before, is there anything unproven that you dont believe in?"
Your first line of "seeings as most charlatans, i mean psychics, prey on the vulnerable" would hardly suggest that you sit on the fence!!
NOTHING in my view CAN be proven as true and unchanging...its all nothing more than viewpoints, there are no facts to be found!
I don't rely on the judgement of others to validate my own viewpoints or beliefs, people are not being forced to hand over money to see Sally Morgan, they choice has always been theirs! |
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""why are all of your clients asked to leave a rating that you then publically display?"
Most businesses who use the internet, ebay, amazon and many more request feedback, as to the service they provide.
I work for a German media company, and it is their policy to ask clients for feedback, it is one way of knowing if you are offering the best customer experience possible.
Most businesses that use the Internet including eBay and Amazon offer a quantifiable, measureable service that is validated and therefore carries some form of guarantee as to it's authenticity. The correct product either arrives or it doesn't. Feedback is simply free advertising and a desire to 'spread the word'.
Do you think that eBay, Amazon or most businesses would suggest in any way that it is NOT in their interest to have their service validated?
Are you saying that it is in the interests of mediums, psychics and clairvoyants to be validated?
Most consumers like choice, and value for money. Feedback from past clients helps people select the type of reading they want, and the reader they feel a connection with.
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Every reading that is undertaken does have a Guarantee, |
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Went to see her in October and have to say wasnt as good as on tv but then tv is edited but the few people she picked out the things she said were true . Everyone as there own beliefs wouldnt do for us all to be the same. My advice see for yourself. Have to say would watch her again. If you go enjoy it |
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""why are all of your clients asked to leave a rating that you then publically display?"
Most businesses who use the internet, ebay, amazon and many more request feedback, as to the service they provide.
I work for a German media company, and it is their policy to ask clients for feedback, it is one way of knowing if you are offering the best customer experience possible.
Most businesses that use the Internet including eBay and Amazon offer a quantifiable, measureable service that is validated and therefore carries some form of guarantee as to it's authenticity. The correct product either arrives or it doesn't. Feedback is simply free advertising and a desire to 'spread the word'.
Do you think that eBay, Amazon or most businesses would suggest in any way that it is NOT in their interest to have their service validated?
Are you saying that it is in the interests of mediums, psychics and clairvoyants to be validated?
Most consumers like choice, and value for money. Feedback from past clients helps people select the type of reading they want, and the reader they feel a connection with.
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Your response accepts that people should be helped in their choice, you appear to be saying that it is in the interests of this commercial proposition to be validated, but I don't want to put words in your mouth.
It really is not a trick question and I'm not sure why it's so difficult to answer. If it is in the best interest of these organisations to not be validated in your opinion, just say? |
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seeings as most charlatans, i mean psychics, prey on the vulnerable, then no, validation from those that are being conned is none too reliable
But you've hardly got an open mind on the subject have you?
yep, i neither believe nor disbelieve it, for the most part.
however it has mostly been shown up to be false, so until otherwise proven, i err on the side of caution.
whereas you are obviously hook line and sinker a believer.
i asked before, is there anything unproven that you dont believe in?
Your first line of "seeings as most charlatans, i mean psychics, prey on the vulnerable" would hardly suggest that you sit on the fence!!
NOTHING in my view CAN be proven as true and unchanging...its all nothing more than viewpoints, there are no facts to be found!
I don't rely on the judgement of others to validate my own viewpoints or beliefs, people are not being forced to hand over money to see Sally Morgan, they choice has always been theirs! "
so your defending something you dont even believe is what your saying |
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"She's wore an ear piece of stage...quite telling!
She's also channelled a fictitious character on stage before
She's also using cold reading techniques.
So yeah, no such thing as psychics
Yeah, its a mic...so the audience can hear her!
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Incorrect. There's a video on youtube someone pointed out where she removes her microphone and then an earpiece which was caught on camera. If this is not compelling enough find her appearence on Richard Bacon's show on youtube. It cringes... |
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"She's wore an ear piece of stage...quite telling!
She's also channelled a fictitious character on stage before
She's also using cold reading techniques.
So yeah, no such thing as psychics
Yeah, its a mic...so the audience can hear her!
Incorrect. There's a video on youtube someone pointed out where she removes her microphone and then an earpiece which was caught on camera. If this is not compelling enough find her appearence on Richard Bacon's show on youtube. It cringes..."
That's been explained earlier! |
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seeings as most charlatans, i mean psychics, prey on the vulnerable, then no, validation from those that are being conned is none too reliable
But you've hardly got an open mind on the subject have you?
yep, i neither believe nor disbelieve it, for the most part.
however it has mostly been shown up to be false, so until otherwise proven, i err on the side of caution.
whereas you are obviously hook line and sinker a believer.
i asked before, is there anything unproven that you dont believe in?
Your first line of "seeings as most charlatans, i mean psychics, prey on the vulnerable" would hardly suggest that you sit on the fence!!
NOTHING in my view CAN be proven as true and unchanging...its all nothing more than viewpoints, there are no facts to be found!
I don't rely on the judgement of others to validate my own viewpoints or beliefs, people are not being forced to hand over money to see Sally Morgan, they choice has always been theirs! "
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The show is worth the money if someone will enjoy being there. Whether they believe it's true or not is irrelevant.
I have been to a panto before. Pretty sure the dame wasn't a real woman. But I still enjoyed it. |
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"She's wore an ear piece of stage...quite telling!
She's also channelled a fictitious character on stage before
She's also using cold reading techniques.
So yeah, no such thing as psychics
Yeah, its a mic...so the audience can hear her!
Incorrect. There's a video on youtube someone pointed out where she removes her microphone and then an earpiece which was caught on camera. If this is not compelling enough find her appearence on Richard Bacon's show on youtube. It cringes...
That's been explained earlier! "
I missed that as you can see there's a lot to wade through. Feel free to enlighten me |
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