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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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I was in the local jobcentre today looking for a new job on my day of only to sit next to two blokes who was laughing about how they rip the benefit system of 1 bloke was telling his mate he was claiming sickness benefit since he left school and how easy it was to pass the medical exams they get sent on and his friend was saying only for his mother he would be working but he was her carer as she could not walk far so he got a car on the DLA to drive her around! The funny thing his phone went of his mother ask him could he pick her up with such shock his attitude toward her was I am f*****g busy get a bus or taxi and next thing he said to his friend fancy going for a drive to pull some birds, they was only in the job central to sponge more money for the week end as they wanted a grant form to get money on where you don’t have to pay back, I have never seen so many drug dependant or alcoholics going in for forms to get extra benefits, I feel sorry for the people like myself who pay taxes for people like that I think they must spoil it for the general claimants whom need such help !it sure lit my eyes up today I think I will stick to my low paid job after what I seen today. I just had to let this steam out of my head arhhhhhhhhhh |
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over a year ago
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i had to call in to our local one a few years back, and can totally relate with it, I didnt want to be there, i've always worked but was made redundant so had no choice, luckily enough I found work after a month but the regulars that go to that place just made me sick, couldnt wait to get there money to drink it or put bets on  |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
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"i had to call in to our local one a few years back, and can totally relate with it, I didnt want to be there, i've always worked but was made redundant so had no choice, luckily enough I found work after a month but the regulars that go to that place just made me sick, couldnt wait to get there money to drink it or put bets on "
Yes I think something needs to be done about this now I think if Tories get in power David Cameron will stop benefits in full if the refuse to go on a programme to get them of drink and drugs but again the tax payer will fund it so this must be a problem all over the uk first time I have ever been to job centre for years now and hope it will be the last I am sticking to my low paid job just as well I never handed in my notice in last week ‘all the best in your job mate. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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I was taking to one our regulars yesterday, he was telling me about a friend of his that got made reduntant 18 month ago after working at the same place for 25 years, for 18 months he as not claimed anything simply because he is scared to go to the jobcentre because of these kind of people. |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
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"I was taking to one our regulars yesterday, he was telling me about a friend of his that got made reduntant 18 month ago after working at the same place for 25 years, for 18 months he as not claimed anything simply because he is scared to go to the jobcentre because of these kind of people. "
In my opinion that guy should get the full help with paying taxes over 25 years he should get a car and extra benefits that some of the fakers tell him he got nothing to be ashamed about working for 25 years or more that man should be pushed to top of the dole cue and helped more but it must pay if you sit on your arse and do sod all like some who get top dollar must be a lottery win claiming sickness and income support for the work shy jockeys. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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my oh works in a very seasonal job, and could claim in the bad months, but doesnt want to be a drain on the state, and he thinks it should go to more deserving people, but it doesnt seem to work that way the most in need people, and i mean the ones who need a little help in a hard time between jobs never claim only the work shy long term unimployed seem to claim |
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my father has worked all his life and just last year at the age of 43 he took a stroke and couldnt work again when he went to the doctor to get DLA they told him he could work in an office even tho he has lost the felling in the right side of body and only has the use of one arm, he took us 4long months to get the proper stuff he needed and to start claiming dla but yet there is people out there pulling all sorts of stunts to get money it really gets on my tits, i must say i am out of work at the min and the first day of sitting in the house was doing my head in i cant wait to start working again |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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I am in total agreement with all the above. I got made redundent just over two years ago. I have worked part-time since my kids came along and when I lost my job I tried to claim jobseekers allowance. I was refused because as a part-timer I hadn't paid enough stamps. I jokingly said if I had 15 children and didn't want to work I would probably get thousands. She said 'basically yes'. Thing is I had worked nights for years so I could look after my children in the day. At the time childcare was my problem and so was the cost. After a few years, not getting any sleep started to make me ill so in a way losing the job did me a favour. I got a job a month later and am much happier(and healthier). I know many who make my blood boil by their spongeing and they don't mind you knowing what they do. They almost seem proud of themselves. They just make me sick! I along with many have more self-respect and will never sponge like that. I won't lower myself to their level!!!! God I sound snobby now but rather be me than them. |
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By *ustyWoman
over a year ago
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i was made redundant in dec last year and due to onlky being in the job since fed dint get a penny, went to claim joib seekers and still dont get a penny as going thro a divorce for now and as have capital which i have no access to for now i cant claim....... oh and if more than 16k in bank you dont get any either, howe is a person supposeed to live till you get your money settlement in a divoce, make me mad at those who can milk the system and get away with it and there are genuine people who want to work but cant get work like me |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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Try being self employed and finding yourself without work.
The DWP do not want to know you. The only way you can claim anything is to pretend that your sick, and unless you know the ropes, that is a nigh impossible task.
This is all despite the fact that self employed people still pay NI contributions
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my ex b/f got me pregnant and now he gone on dole so he does not got to pay csa and now i feel he has spolied my life i once had a job and gave everything up for him when i told him how can i bring up a baby he replied the state can so it looks like i will have to get a job untill i drop |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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There are any ho do want to work who can't and its not very easy for them. Its the sloth's and layabouts who milk the system for all they can get who give them all a bad name. Work placements for the long term unemployed should be offered and in some cases pushed if they still want to claim. |
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By *ickedWWoman
over a year ago
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My son is registered disabled (he is 17 with cerebral palsey and totally dependant on me) but on turning 16 he can claim some incapacity benefit, but he has to prove to the DWP that he cant do anything...
When totally healthy good-for-nothing people, pretending to have this that and the other get it all and more..
Totally agree with above posters...
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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"My son is registered disabled (he is 17 with cerebral palsey and totally dependant on me) but on turning 16 he can claim some incapacity benefit, but he has to prove to the DWP that he cant do anything...
When totally healthy good-for-nothing people, pretending to have this that and the other get it all and more..
Totally agree with above posters...
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My heart goes out to you Hun I think the whole of the UK should sign one big petition and everybody sign it we should open a website etc and get people to sign it put a stop to free benefits for work shy people and the fakes enough is enough a uk petition and send it to our next prime minister David Cameron! I could not go another five years of that no good labour that loves to give the wrong people benefits at least the Tories will put a stop to it if he sticks to his words why should we pay taxes for the smack heads and alcoholics and the no good for nothing fraudsters who put in claims when there are f**k all wrong with them and good honest people like your son has got to prove he cant do anything before he gets any benefits just makes my blood boil today at the job centre was enough seeing them two scruffy skanks boasting about ripping the system of, if we sit on our back sides and do fuck all about it this
Will only get worse! We need to react to this and be heard and get the government to put a stop to fraudsters and give only to the disabled and put others on a long term course until they find a job even if that means working 9to5 7 days a week for your benefits I might sound a bit harsh but I am sick and tired paying taxes and high council tax only to hear scroungers claiming everything when there are fuck all wrong with them grrrrrrrrr. Sorry again about my rant this topic must be getting to lots of people and I will keep my gob shut now before it lands me in hot water lol
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"I was in the local jobcentre today looking for a new job on my day of only to sit next to two blokes who was laughing about how they rip the benefit system of 1 bloke was telling his mate he was claiming sickness benefit since he left school and how easy it was to pass the medical exams they get sent on and his friend was saying only for his mother he would be working but he was her carer as she could not walk far so he got a car on the DLA to drive her around! The funny thing his phone went of his mother ask him could he pick her up with such shock his attitude toward her was I am f*****g busy get a bus or taxi and next thing he said to his friend fancy going for a drive to pull some birds, they was only in the job central to sponge more money for the week end as they wanted a grant form to get money on where you don’t have to pay back, I have never seen so many drug dependant or alcoholics going in for forms to get extra benefits, I feel sorry for the people like myself who pay taxes for people like that I think they must spoil it for the general claimants whom need such help !it sure lit my eyes up today I think I will stick to my low paid job after what I seen today. I just had to let this steam out of my head arhhhhhhhhhh"
Sounds like a letter you might see sent in to the Daily Mail on any given day... |
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By *oobCouple
over a year ago
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This probably won't go down well, but spare a thought for those that are trapped in the Generation X sydrome.
IMHO unemployment levels are kept at a certain rate to keep the economy moving at a required rate, and I believe Mrs Thatcher once said that Britian could not survive without the black market.
Not condoning those that leech on the system, but if you were in the same situation, wouldn't taking drugs and drinking too much alcohol at least sidetract oneself from the sad situaton one finds oneself in? |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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Generally in agreement that benefit fraud is theft but the above are anecdotal stories which tend to tar everybody with the same brush; so those who genuinely want to work but cannot find suitable employment are shown in a bad light.
Our heart goes out to anybody who is willing but unable to find work. It is not a pleasant situation to be in. |
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The 'All Work' test for those deemed unable to work due to sickness is far from easy, it is not as simple as the OP seems to infer to pass the 'All Work' test and claim benefits on the grounds of sickness or disability.
If the lady who was entitled to the award of the higher rate of Mobility to get around earnt that benefit (DLA) then she never got it easy, the OP seems to infer that it is a breeze to get all benefits and this is far from true. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"The 'All Work' test for those deemed unable to work due to sickness is far from easy, it is not as simple as the OP seems to infer to pass the 'All Work' test and claim benefits on the grounds of sickness or disability.
If the lady who was entitled to the award of the higher rate of Mobility to get around earnt that benefit (DLA) then she never got it easy, the OP seems to infer that it is a breeze to get all benefits and this is far from true."
Maybe, maybe not. The woman over the road from me gets DLA because she has Cspine problems.
However, the same woman can manage to work 2 allotment gardens, walk 4, sometimes 5 dogs and look after numerous ducks and hens, then sell the eggs to surrounding neighbours.
Doesn't look like her work capability assesment was particularly difficult to cheat |
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Yes it's all rosy and so so easy, to just walk in a job centre, get a job or get training to re-enter the work force!!
Is it fuck! for years I stayed home looking after my autistic daughter, while wiggles worked, but due to her being made redundant and then geting screwed over, by no bugger in the benefits office, actualy knowing the laws on EU workers, we were forced to switch roles..
Now i'm 38 and have no experience in any jobs I can do, all jobs I did as a lad were manual labour, but due to major asthma (on 50% lung capacity) that type work is a no go.
If I even mention the words training, I get a filthy look, told hell no and they try to send me to a supermarket pushing trollys! (when I did accept such a job, the money almost lost us both our house and everything we owned, as the council swooped in with balifs, refusing to even talk about aranging payments for a debt I later learnt, we didn't even owe)
so yes were all lazy bastards. |
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Maybe, maybe not. The woman over the road from me gets DLA because she has Cspine problems.
However, the same woman can manage to work 2 allotment gardens, walk 4, sometimes 5 dogs and look after numerous ducks and hens, then sell the eggs to surrounding neighbours.
Doesn't look like her work capability assesment was particularly difficult to cheat "
Do you know for a fact that she only gets her DLA award for Cspine?, probably not if the truth be known.
Unless you are party to her GP records then it is probably little more than guesswork on your part.
That's the problem with this country, we don't need CCTV cameras all over the place when we have so many people ready to judge others....very often not knowing all the facts when they make their assessment.
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Yes it's all rosy and so so easy, to just walk in a job centre, get a job or get training to re-enter the work force!!
Is it fuck! for years I stayed home looking after my autistic daughter, while wiggles worked, but due to her being made redundant and then geting screwed over, by no bugger in the benefits office, actualy knowing the laws on EU workers, we were forced to switch roles..
Now i'm 38 and have no experience in any jobs I can do, all jobs I did as a lad were manual labour, but due to major asthma (on 50% lung capacity) that type work is a no go.
If I even mention the words training, I get a filthy look, told hell no and they try to send me to a supermarket pushing trollys! (when I did accept such a job, the money almost lost us both our house and everything we owned, as the council swooped in with balifs, refusing to even talk about aranging payments for a debt I later learnt, we didn't even owe)
so yes were all lazy bastards."
We both feel for you, really we do. Having an autistic daughter is challenging even for a family where the family income is secure and jobs are safe.
Having to battle with what is effectively a daily fight for survival must be hard. You and others like you, do not deserve to be tarred with the same brush as the people that the OP referred to. Bets of luck xx |
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By (user no longer on site)
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Concidering how many long term unemployed we have, we should have the cleanest roads and public areas in the world!
Any system will have people that find a way around it. Fact of life unfortunately.
But the ones that worry me are the generations that have never worked and their parents have never worked and so this goes on. They assume that the state will look after them.
When i have been out of work, it was for less thensix months ever and they could see I was genuine and left me to it as I had all the baes covered.
But some I know (bet we all know someone) just live off the state and it is amazing how they get disability benefit etc.
Again how do you then have a syatem where people with disabilities can't get any benefit?
I have seen a very disabled man told he can sit down therefore he can work! He can only sit down for a little while before he has to stand due to a smashed spine that they can't do any more work on.
He is in pain non stop and only gets to sleep when he falls asleep through exhaustion.
but they say he can work so no benefit. Yet the next in the queue got his and then went outside to get intohis car and had jogging stuff in the boot and is seen regularly running!
No system is perfect but we do seem to have a 'distorted system' over here. |
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"Actually there's no guesswork involved - she told me so
And into the bargain she even gets a tax disc for her car stamped 'Disabled'"
My neighbour of 13 years received the higher rate of DLA (yes she was entitled to have her tax disc paid as part of her DLA award), she looked on the whole quite fit for a disabled person.
When she died just after christmas (all of a sudden we thought) it turned out she was getting her DLA award for her terminal illness as well as her chronic Sciatica she suffered from.
Some of my neighbours also judged her and 'curtain twitched' her, gas-bagged about her behind her back.....then she died and they all looked like the judgemental twats that they were.
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Actually there's no guesswork involved - she told me so
And into the bargain she even gets a tax disc for her car stamped 'Disabled'
My neighbour of 13 years received the higher rate of DLA (yes she was entitled to have her tax disc paid as part of her DLA award), she looked on the whole quite fit for a disabled person.
When she died just after christmas (all of a sudden we thought) it turned out she was getting her DLA award for her terminal illness as well as her chronic Sciatica she suffered from.
Some of my neighbours also judged her and 'curtain twitched' her, gas-bagged about her behind her back.....then she died and they all looked like the judgemental twats that they were.
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We know of several similar stories. And yes, the benefit system... any benefit system can and will be abused by some. It is the same in Germany! However, surely that does not mean everybody abuses it? |
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By (user no longer on site)
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Yeah well, when I see a woman who can dig 2 full allotment garden plots, push wheelbarrows full of flagstones, walk 4 or 5 dogs, look after hens and ducks, smoke, drink, she doesn't just look fit - she is fit.
By her own admission it's a Cspine problem from which she suffers. You can always tell when her annual review is due because suddenly the brings out a walking stick. I'm really not sure who she's trying to convince, herself, or the rest of the street
I'm a bloke and I couldn't manage all that |
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Our daughters not the problem, she just hit 12 and with her routine having to change so much anyway, us switching carerer now is probably the best time.
The problem is the complete lack of training, they sent me on a lecture about Job Trials and New Deal, so I aranged a job trial, to try out some care work (after 12 yrs I figgred it's somthing I at least know) the result "ohh i'm sorry that info was wrong, you arn't eligable yet.
So I asked to go on New Deal to get some training, the answer "I'm sorry, training is not an option at this time, you need to wait 12 months due to your age"
I looked at college, but was told, "if we offer you a job that clashes with a course, then you must quit the course, or we will stop your money"
it's all brick walls, with them shuffling people arround trying to make fake numbers.
Luckily the fella I now have to see at the job centre, actualy seems quite eagre in his job. |
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"Actually there's no guesswork involved - she told me so
And into the bargain she even gets a tax disc for her car stamped 'Disabled'
My neighbour of 13 years received the higher rate of DLA (yes she was entitled to have her tax disc paid as part of her DLA award), she looked on the whole quite fit for a disabled person.
When she died just after christmas (all of a sudden we thought) it turned out she was getting her DLA award for her terminal illness as well as her chronic Sciatica she suffered from.
Some of my neighbours also judged her and 'curtain twitched' her, gas-bagged about her behind her back.....then she died and they all looked like the judgemental twats that they were.
We know of several similar stories. And yes, the benefit system... any benefit system can and will be abused by some. It is the same in Germany! However, surely that does not mean everybody abuses it?"
You are absolutely spot on, of course there will be people playing the system but there are also too many 'curtain twitchers' in our society.
People complain on here about things like Google Maps and Big Brother States, then in the next breath moan about people they know of claiming sickness benefits. Who needs MI5 when we have more than enough nosey neighbours to judge people? |
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"Yeah well, when I see a woman who can dig 2 full allotment garden plots, push wheelbarrows full of flagstones, walk 4 or 5 dogs, look after hens and ducks, smoke, drink, she doesn't just look fit - she is fit.
By her own admission it's a Cspine problem from which she suffers. You can always tell when her annual review is due because suddenly the brings out a walking stick. I'm really not sure who she's trying to convince, herself, or the rest of the street
I'm a bloke and I couldn't manage all that"
I am a firm believer in 'Live your own life and not the life of others', can you imagine if you suffered an injury yourself and had to justify a disability to your friends and neighbours?....it can happen to anyone, even you.
Do you tell all your neighbours the ins and outs of your medical condition and records? |
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Yes I can imagine suffering an injury which leads to diablility, and in fact have one.
I have 3 prolapsed disks in the base of my spine which eventually will require surgery, in fact I see the specialist later in April to discuss the prospect of surgery.
Previously I tried to claim sick money while I took some time away from work, and because I'd missed 2 - yes 2, self employed NI Contributions I was told I didn't qualify for any benefit. So the DWP told me to make the 2 payments that I owed to HMRC after which and they'd review the case.
Yes they reviewd it alright and told me that because I'd payed late there was a 6 week penalty period and thus I still couldn't claim a penny until that 6 week period had elapsed. I was back to work before the 6 weeks were up so I got nothing.
Now that's the thanks I get for being both employed and self employed since I left school in 1977, paying my way through life. When I need a handout I'm told to piss off.
Now maybe you can understand why I am just a little bit bitter when I see others blatently pulling the piss out of the system.
Now call me a curtain twitcher, call me nosey, tell me to live my own life, in fact call me whatever you choose, but I didn't ask the woman what benefits she receives or what her ailments are - she told me of her own free will, in fact she seemed quite proud of the fact that she doesn't have to go to work and she has all this time to pusue her hobbies.
Bottom line being, if she's fit enough to do everything I've mentioned, she's damned well fit enough to go to work, even if its just a part time job |
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"Yes I can imagine suffering an injury which leads to diablility, and in fact have one.
I have 3 prolapsed disks in the base of my spine which eventually will require surgery, in fact I see the specialist later in April to discuss the prospect of surgery.
Previously I tried to claim sick money while I took some time away from work, and because I'd missed 2 - yes 2, self employed NI Contributions I was told I didn't qualify for any benefit. So the DWP told me to make the 2 payments that I owed to HMRC after which and they'd review the case.
Yes they reviewd it alright and told me that because I'd payed late there was a 6 week penalty period and thus I still couldn't claim a penny until that 6 week period had elapsed. I was back to work before the 6 weeks were up so I got nothing.
Now that's the thanks I get for being both employed and self employed since I left school in 1977, paying my way through life. When I need a handout I'm told to piss off.
Now maybe you can understand why I am just a little bit bitter when I see others blatently pulling the piss out of the system.
Now call me a curtain twitcher, call me nosey, tell me to live my own life, in fact call me whatever you choose, but I didn't ask the woman what benefits she receives or what her ailments are - she told me of her own free will, in fact she seemed quite proud of the fact that she doesn't have to go to work and she has all this time to pusue her hobbies.
Bottom line being, if she's fit enough to do everything I've mentioned, she's damned well fit enough to go to work, even if its just a part time job"
Sounds like you had a really bad deal there, certainly does not sound fair and it is quite understandable that you are angry when you see somebody who appears to be abusing the system. Can empathise with you totally.
The point I was making was more about not making assumptions about anybody... and that while some people will always find ways of cheating the system, the majority are decent hard working individuals. Sadly in the system some people like yourself don't get the fair deal they may deserve - sorry ton hear that you are one of them x |
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"Our daughters not the problem, she just hit 12 and with her routine having to change so much anyway, us switching carerer now is probably the best time.
The problem is the complete lack of training, they sent me on a lecture about Job Trials and New Deal, so I aranged a job trial, to try out some care work (after 12 yrs I figgred it's somthing I at least know) the result "ohh i'm sorry that info was wrong, you arn't eligable yet.
So I asked to go on New Deal to get some training, the answer "I'm sorry, training is not an option at this time, you need to wait 12 months due to your age"
I looked at college, but was told, "if we offer you a job that clashes with a course, then you must quit the course, or we will stop your money"
it's all brick walls, with them shuffling people arround trying to make fake numbers.
Luckily the fella I now have to see at the job centre, actualy seems quite eagre in his job."
Could you become self-employed? Just wondering, even if you were "only" a home maker for so many years, you will have some transferable skills you might be able to use? |
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By *ig badMan
over a year ago
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"Yes I can imagine suffering an injury which leads to diablility, and in fact have one.
I have 3 prolapsed disks in the base of my spine which eventually will require surgery, in fact I see the specialist later in April to discuss the prospect of surgery.
Previously I tried to claim sick money while I took some time away from work, and because I'd missed 2 - yes 2, self employed NI Contributions I was told I didn't qualify for any benefit. So the DWP told me to make the 2 payments that I owed to HMRC after which and they'd review the case.
Yes they reviewd it alright and told me that because I'd payed late there was a 6 week penalty period and thus I still couldn't claim a penny until that 6 week period had elapsed. I was back to work before the 6 weeks were up so I got nothing.
Now that's the thanks I get for being both employed and self employed since I left school in 1977, paying my way through life. When I need a handout I'm told to piss off.
Now maybe you can understand why I am just a little bit bitter when I see others blatently pulling the piss out of the system.
Now call me a curtain twitcher, call me nosey, tell me to live my own life, in fact call me whatever you choose, but I didn't ask the woman what benefits she receives or what her ailments are - she told me of her own free will, in fact she seemed quite proud of the fact that she doesn't have to go to work and she has all this time to pusue her hobbies.
Bottom line being, if she's fit enough to do everything I've mentioned, she's damned well fit enough to go to work, even if its just a part time job"
The self employed loose out big time with our current system. Funny though the powers that be still want your coin in taxes though!
Dealt with a few small businesses in the past and its pretty unfair how things work. |
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If you get to the point of having your surgery and it doesn't (god forbid) solve the problem you will be entitled to claim for DLA like anyone else.
The last thing you will need at that point is others judging you without having read your medical records.
The other night I watched a documentary about 1980's South Africa where totally innocent people were killed in the townships by way of a burning tyre put around their neck, just because their judgemental neighbours guessed wrong that they were informants for the old regime.
Ok so an extreme example.....but just goes to show what can happen when others make what are often ill informed judgements. |
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My son bless him left college in june has been handing out cvs nearly everyday. Job centre sent him for two job interviews both partime neither bothered to get back to him. He has a part time job interview wednesday and one for a full time job on thursday, his interview is at 8 and he said to me that he was going to get up at 4 so that he could be all ready and be outside the building waiting at 7. He so wants a job it is just so deflating for those that want to work |
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"My son bless him left college in june has been handing out cvs nearly everyday. Job centre sent him for two job interviews both partime neither bothered to get back to him. He has a part time job interview wednesday and one for a full time job on thursday, his interview is at 8 and he said to me that he was going to get up at 4 so that he could be all ready and be outside the building waiting at 7. He so wants a job it is just so deflating for those that want to work"
I am sure with his great attitude he will be snapped up soon enough.... |
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I was out of work in 1999 as i had been finished from previous job due to carpal tunnel problems. I could no longer do anything manual.
I would go and sign on and hate every minute.
One day having signed on , i decided i had had enough and walked over to a desk and asked the lady there. "is there any training i can do" ????
She was quite taken back as no one normally asked and most had to be threatened into it.
I started at nacro doing a buisness admin level 2 nvq.
I had completed way ahead of time and got an extra £10 per week for it.
Fridays were job search days and i found my job within the health and social care .
Started 2000 april the 1st.
And unfortunately...
I finished last friday due to ill health .
I loved my job and waited most of my working life to find it.
I will not sit about if i can help it , even if it means doing some voluntary work.
And will also look after those with altzhiemers , so their families can have an hours break etc.
I understand some people find it very hard and their disabilities are often unseen.
But those lazy feckwits you see ripping the system off need sticking in a chain gang.  |
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"If you get to the point of having your surgery and it doesn't (god forbid) solve the problem you will be entitled to claim for DLA like anyone else.
The last thing you will need at that point is others judging you without having read your medical records.
The other night I watched a documentary about 1980's South Africa where totally innocent people were killed in the townships by way of a burning tyre put around their neck, just because their judgemental neighbours guessed wrong that they were informants for the old regime.
Ok so an extreme example.....but just goes to show what can happen when others make what are often ill informed judgements."
The example may sound extreme, however it illustrates a very valid point. The modern form of witchhunting... not fair and potentially quite dangerous for those being hunted. Totally agree with this post |
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"My son bless him left college in june has been handing out cvs nearly everyday. Job centre sent him for two job interviews both partime neither bothered to get back to him. He has a part time job interview wednesday and one for a full time job on thursday, his interview is at 8 and he said to me that he was going to get up at 4 so that he could be all ready and be outside the building waiting at 7. He so wants a job it is just so deflating for those that want to work"
I have in the past (and will continue to do so) employed people (of all ages) based on their attitude (and experience, qualifications of course) but essentially attitude... so the very best of luck to your son! |
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By *ig badMan
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Up North :-) |
"I was out of work in 1999 as i had been finished from previous job due to carpal tunnel problems. I could no longer do anything manual.
I would go and sign on and hate every minute.
One day having signed on , i decided i had had enough and walked over to a desk and asked the lady there. "is there any training i can do" ????
She was quite taken back as no one normally asked and most had to be threatened into it.
I started at nacro doing a buisness admin level 2 nvq.
I had completed way ahead of time and got an extra £10 per week for it.
Fridays were job search days and i found my job within the health and social care .
Started 2000 april the 1st.
And unfortunately...
I finished last friday due to ill health .
I loved my job and waited most of my working life to find it.
I will not sit about if i can help it , even if it means doing some voluntary work.
And will also look after those with altzhiemers , so their families can have an hours break etc.
I understand some people find it very hard and their disabilities are often unseen.
But those lazy feckwits you see ripping the system off need sticking in a chain gang. "
Your not far wrong on that. The ones who just don't want to contribute to society are ......well i think we all know what they are.
It just makes it less palatable for the genuine ones. |
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"If you get to the point of having your surgery and it doesn't (god forbid) solve the problem you will be entitled to claim for DLA like anyone else.
The last thing you will need at that point is others judging you without having read your medical records.
The other night I watched a documentary about 1980's South Africa where totally innocent people were killed in the townships by way of a burning tyre put around their neck, just because their judgemental neighbours guessed wrong that they were informants for the old regime.
Ok so an extreme example.....but just goes to show what can happen when others make what are often ill informed judgements."
You just don't seem to be quite latching onto what I'm saying do you ?
I'm not making judgments, I'm not guessing, I'm not fantacising I'm relating to what the woman has willingly told me and what I have watched her doing, digging pushing wheelbarrows etc etc.
Apparantly she received this injury whilst working as a nurse lifting patients, unless of course I've just imagined that too whilst peeping from behind my curtains. |
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You just don't seem to be quite latching onto what I'm saying do you ?
I'm not making judgments, I'm not guessing, I'm not fantacising I'm relating to what the woman has willingly told me and what I have watched her doing, digging pushing wheelbarrows etc etc.
Apparantly she received this injury whilst working as a nurse lifting patients, unless of course I've just imagined that too whilst peeping from behind my curtains."
If you are that concerned why not go the whole hog and video her and turn her in?, the next Conservative government may just come up with a reward scheme and give you half of her annual DLA.....saving themselves a fortune over a few years.
Can you imagine the savings the government could make on benefits?....maybe even make neighbourhood watch schemes into residents mini MI5's. They could even report immigrants they suspected of being Al Qaeda members, might cut down on all the sponging foreigners while we are at it! |
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"I really think you are being quite silly now, to be honest !"
Guilty......but all the crap we all read every day in papers like the Daily Mail and Daily Express makes the people of this country paranoid, nosey and busybodies.
The more wound up we all get after reading such rubbish dictates the way we are about others, it makes us less understanding, less charitable and in many cases downright judgemental and guilty of discrimination.
In short it's propoganda, all political parties are guilty of spreading distrust among the public as it gets people blaming individuals and takes the emphasis off of the instigators of policy.
Now we have people looking at people with disablities and making judgements often based on the crap that appears in the daily papers.
Me, well I live my own life and leave the scroungers and fiddlers to the people who are paid to catch them....
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I'm happy to say that I never purchase ANY newspapers.
I always aim to base my views and opinions on FACTS which is what I have done on this occasion. If the woman has told me untruths, well so be it. She told me, I didn't ask her. But the facts that I am sure of are the things that I have personally witnessed |
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By *zMaleMan
over a year ago
penzance |
As everyone is probably aware I'm due to retire shortly. After serving Quenn and country for 33 yrs. I am dreading the day I have to walk through those doors and mingle with the shit and devastaion the dwell behind those doors ( and I don't mean the staff, or maybe I do LOL) |
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