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got an 82 year old relative staying with us for christmas, they are in a wheelchair as can barely walk, lives on her own, widowed many years and never had a car, so, was told today at tesco that i could not park in the disabled bay for her as we dont have a blue disability badge,
does the badge really matter that much if you have a disabled person with you who has never had or needed to have one???
was not a problem as such as i just dropped her off at the door, then parked up further away and picked her back up at the door, it was just the "jobsworths" attitude that got up my nose.
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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It's only because people abuse the system unfortunately. The member of staff should have taken one look at your aunt and let you park there in my opinion, but he/she was probably following rules and wasn't capable of making an executive decision. Glad you were able to drop her off and pick her up again without too much hassle. |
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By *abioMan
over a year ago
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yes... if she is entitled to one then get one....
obviously only use it when she is there... because you can be fined for fraudulently using it... but anything that makes her life easier is good.... |
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"You need to be registered as disabled in order to have a blue badge so that you can park in a disabled space....it's worth looking into getting her a blur badge "
but she dont live with us, not even in the same county, only visits at christmas as we dont want her to be on her own and no one else wants her |
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By *B9 QueenWoman
over a year ago
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I think that they were being rather too 'officious'. The law, as I understand it, states that supermarkets, etc, must provide a certain percentage of disabled parking (not sure how much percentage), and that they are obliged to 'police' that provision themselves. They could have used their discretion.
However, child/parent parking is merely a courtesy so you could have parked there. I used to do when I took my mum shopping and all the disabled bays were used. It did cause one or two rows over the years but most people were tolerant and understanding. It was only the occasional self-absorbed idiot who actually expected me to move so they could park there with their children - even though mum was in a wheelchair and in a specially adapted van which needed the extra sized parking space.
I would email the manager of the store to highlight the issue and maybe they will tell their employees to use more discretion. |
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blue badge spaces are for people who have to drivethemselves and neet to be as close as poss to where they are going, you said you let her out and then parked so no problem for you, my father is dissabled and really need his blue badge, it makes me socross when i see some one using one and then walk away from the car, this was never the intention, miss use is rife |
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over a year ago
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A female friend of mine is disabled and her son got the blue badge on her behalf,as he drives her around. If you look into it as a relative you will also be able to get one. |
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By *rsK69Woman
over a year ago
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"blue badge spaces are for people who have to drivethemselves and neet to be as close as poss to where they are going, you said you let her out and then parked so no problem for you, my father is dissabled and really need his blue badge, it makes me socross when i see some one using one and then walk away from the car, this was never the intention, miss use is rife"
Do you really think that just because someone can walk then they cant possibly have a disability/condition that entitles them to a blue badge?  |
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By *rsK69Woman
over a year ago
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"blue badge spaces are for people who have to drivethemselves and neet to be as close as poss to where they are going, you said you let her out and then parked so no problem for you, my father is dissabled and really need his blue badge, it makes me socross when i see some one using one and then walk away from the car, this was never the intention, miss use is rife"
And no they are not only for people who drive themselves. |
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By *B9 QueenWoman
over a year ago
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My mother was incapable of driving when her disability became too severe. She had a blue badge for use when anyone was driving her anywhere. Perfectly acceptable and perfectly legal. |
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If you had parked in the disable bay without a badge and a different staff member had come out and seen you how would there know she was in a wheelchair.The store I worked at,would clamp you for not having a badge on show.Rotten I know but soon stopped the cheats from using the bays |
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By *B9 QueenWoman
over a year ago
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"If you had parked in the disable bay without a badge and a different staff member had come out and seen you how would there know she was in a wheelchair.The store I worked at,would clamp you for not having a badge on show.Rotten I know but soon stopped the cheats from using the bays"
The Trafford Centre, not far from me, also clamps. I would recommend anyone in those circumstances park in a parent/child bay as they are usually the same sized space. |
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By *igSuki81Man
over a year ago
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I'm going to sound like a right tosser but i'd have told her/him to fuck off & parked my car & if they wanted to argue i'd have invited them to look at my situ before they made a fukwit comment & be judgemental. |
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"got an 82 year old relative staying with us for christmas, they are in a wheelchair as can barely walk, lives on her own, widowed many years and never had a car, so, was told today at tesco that i could not park in the disabled bay for her as we dont have a blue disability badge,
does the badge really matter that much if you have a disabled person with you who has never had or needed to have one???
was not a problem as such as i just dropped her off at the door, then parked up further away and picked her back up at the door, it was just the "jobsworths" attitude that got up my nose.
sorry for the late rant "
I hate the word "jobsworth". Usually because the people that use it think that the rules shouldn't apply to them and resent someone challenging them about it.
It sounds like this guy was just telling you the rules for your own benefit. If you'd parked in a disabled spot without a blue badge and your car got towed or you got a ticket you'd be cursing the guy for not telling you. Then the traffic warden or tow guy would be a jobsworth too. |
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over a year ago
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Anyone disabled enough can apply for a blue badge
They don't have to own a car
The badge is for the person not the vehicle
In London they can also apply for a taxi card giving subsidised taxi travel |
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By *ugby 123Couple
over a year ago
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I suppose if the carpark gives tickets out if a badge isn't displayed then you might have ended up with one as they don't know the person in the shop is in a wheelchair....which means you could have been more annoyed coming back to that.
( not sure if supermarkets give tickets out though ) |
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By *B9 QueenWoman
over a year ago
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"got an 82 year old relative staying with us for christmas, they are in a wheelchair as can barely walk, lives on her own, widowed many years and never had a car, so, was told today at tesco that i could not park in the disabled bay for her as we dont have a blue disability badge,
does the badge really matter that much if you have a disabled person with you who has never had or needed to have one???
was not a problem as such as i just dropped her off at the door, then parked up further away and picked her back up at the door, it was just the "jobsworths" attitude that got up my nose.
sorry for the late rant
I hate the word "jobsworth". Usually because the people that use it think that the rules shouldn't apply to them and resent someone challenging them about it.
It sounds like this guy was just telling you the rules for your own benefit. If you'd parked in a disabled spot without a blue badge and your car got towed or you got a ticket you'd be cursing the guy for not telling you. Then the traffic warden or tow guy would be a jobsworth too. "
There would be no traffic warden in a private car park. However, as I pointed out before, the person who told him to move could have used some discretion on seeing a genuinely disabled person in the car. |
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By *ugby 123Couple
over a year ago
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"I'm going to sound like a right tosser but i'd have told her/him to fuck off & parked my car & if they wanted to argue i'd have invited them to look at my situ before they made a fukwit comment & be judgemental."
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the problem is, people get abusive when they see a car parked where it shouldnt.
if a car with a blue badge couldnt find a space, the occupants would be well within their rights to ask the shop to give a call out for you to moce it.
blue badge holders can park on double yellows for a short period.
if you had done this, you would have been ticketed/clamped and so on, and wouldnt have a leg to stand on.
as has been said, get her a blue badge for just these occasions.
it doesnt cost her anything and its worth having in reserve |
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"blue badge spaces are for people who have to drivethemselves and neet to be as close as poss to where they are going, you said you let her out and then parked so no problem for you, my father is dissabled and really need his blue badge, it makes me socross when i see some one using one and then walk away from the car, this was never the intention, miss use is rife
Do you really think that just because someone can walk then they cant possibly have a disability/condition that entitles them to a blue badge? "
why would you need it ifyou can walk fine |
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"If you had parked in the disable bay without a badge and a different staff member had come out and seen you how would there know she was in a wheelchair.The store I worked at,would clamp you for not having a badge on show.Rotten I know but soon stopped the cheats from using the bays"
Clamping on private property is now illegal. Only the police and traffic wardens can instigate clamping. Supermarkets and the like can issue penalty notices, but these are not fines and do not have to be paid. At best they are invoices for an implied contract. |
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By *B9 QueenWoman
over a year ago
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"PS the man was probably just doing what is asked from him, so if he isn't allowed to use discretion it is the shopowners who need the feedback  "
Which was why I suggested emailing the manager of the store. No manager would want to be thought of as unaccommodating to someone genuinely disabled. |
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" it makes me socross when i see some one using one and then walk away from the car,"
What about those with disabilities that do not render them unable to walk, but need the disabled spaces? That's a very old fashioned way of looking at disability |
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By *ugby 123Couple
over a year ago
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"PS the man was probably just doing what is asked from him, so if he isn't allowed to use discretion it is the shopowners who need the feedback
Which was why I suggested emailing the manager of the store. No manager would want to be thought of as unaccommodating to someone genuinely disabled."
I was just answering the OP. I hadn't read your post. |
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By *B9 QueenWoman
over a year ago
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" it makes me socross when i see some one using one and then walk away from the car,
What about those with disabilities that do not render them unable to walk, but need the disabled spaces? That's a very old fashioned way of looking at disability"
For example, people with severe heart conditions, arthritis, et. |
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"blue badge spaces are for people who have to drivethemselves and neet to be as close as poss to where they are going, you said you let her out and then parked so no problem for you, my father is dissabled and really need his blue badge, it makes me socross when i see some one using one and then walk away from the car, this was never the intention, miss use is rife
Do you really think that just because someone can walk then they cant possibly have a disability/condition that entitles them to a blue badge? "
The blue badge is only available to those with limited mobility so yes if someone can easily walk away from their car then they shouldn't have a blue badge!! |
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"blue badge spaces are for people who have to drivethemselves and neet to be as close as poss to where they are going, you said you let her out and then parked so no problem for you, my father is dissabled and really need his blue badge, it makes me socross when i see some one using one and then walk away from the car, this was never the intention, miss use is rife
Do you really think that just because someone can walk then they cant possibly have a disability/condition that entitles them to a blue badge? "
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By *rsK69Woman
over a year ago
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"blue badge spaces are for people who have to drivethemselves and neet to be as close as poss to where they are going, you said you let her out and then parked so no problem for you, my father is dissabled and really need his blue badge, it makes me socross when i see some one using one and then walk away from the car, this was never the intention, miss use is rife
Do you really think that just because someone can walk then they cant possibly have a disability/condition that entitles them to a blue badge? why would you need it ifyou can walk fine "
Are you being serious asking that question? |
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Notwithstanding the above post, get her a blue badge if she's eligible, and you can use it whilst she's in your car and also whilst getting items (food, prescriptions etc) on her behalf.
My parents have one for themselves and bring it with them when I'm chauffeuring them. I don't use it when collecting items for them as I'm more than capable of parking further away and walking. |
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By *rsK69Woman
over a year ago
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"blue badge spaces are for people who have to drivethemselves and neet to be as close as poss to where they are going, you said you let her out and then parked so no problem for you, my father is dissabled and really need his blue badge, it makes me socross when i see some one using one and then walk away from the car, this was never the intention, miss use is rife
Do you really think that just because someone can walk then they cant possibly have a disability/condition that entitles them to a blue badge?
The blue badge is only available to those with limited mobility so yes if someone can easily walk away from their car then they shouldn't have a blue badge!!"
You are wrong. My son has one for a severe medical condition but to someone who didnt know he looks perfectly fine and walks normally. Some very old fashioned views on disability here |
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By *B9 QueenWoman
over a year ago
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"PS the man was probably just doing what is asked from him, so if he isn't allowed to use discretion it is the shopowners who need the feedback
Which was why I suggested emailing the manager of the store. No manager would want to be thought of as unaccommodating to someone genuinely disabled.
I was just answering the OP. I hadn't read your post."
Ok. I mentioned it originally as it was something I resorted to once when told off for using a parent/child bay even though it was evident that my mother had a severe disability and a blue badge. The employee who told me to move was being ridiculously officious. I did not move even when being threatened with a 'fine' - which is actually not enforceable by law anyway on private land. It never happened again once I emailed. |
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" it makes me socross when i see some one using one and then walk away from the car,
What about those with disabilities that do not render them unable to walk, but need the disabled spaces? That's a very old fashioned way of looking at disability"
But the blue badge isn't available just because someone has a disability. The new guidelines clearly states that the person is only entitled if they have very limited mobility and so someone with a heart condition wouldn't get a badge now although would have done under the old regs!! |
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" it makes me socross when i see some one using one and then walk away from the car,
What about those with disabilities that do not render them unable to walk, but need the disabled spaces? That's a very old fashioned way of looking at disability
For example, people with severe heart conditions, arthritis, et."
i willtell that to my quadraplegic dad when he has to abandon his shopping trip next time he cant park in a blue badge bay as they are all full, and other bays arent wide enough for him to get into his chair. and yes it happens alot, so sorry if you can walk then you should |
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" it makes me socross when i see some one using one and then walk away from the car,
What about those with disabilities that do not render them unable to walk, but need the disabled spaces? That's a very old fashioned way of looking at disability
For example, people with severe heart conditions, arthritis, et."
Cystic Fibrosis, Emphysema and other breathing problems too.
Honestly I'm quite shocked that there was a comment about people being able to walk! |
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" it makes me socross when i see some one using one and then walk away from the car,
What about those with disabilities that do not render them unable to walk, but need the disabled spaces? That's a very old fashioned way of looking at disability
For example, people with severe heart conditions, arthritis, et.i willtell that to my quadraplegic dad when he has to abandon his shopping trip next time he cant park in a blue badge bay as they are all full, and other bays arent wide enough for him to get into his chair. and yes it happens alot, so sorry if you can walk then you should"
What about telling the person waiting for a lung transplant that they can't use the bay to get their oxygen tank out which helps them breathe, or to the person who's had a stroke and has mobility issues.
What an archaic attitude you have to disability. |
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By *rsK69Woman
over a year ago
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" it makes me socross when i see some one using one and then walk away from the car,
What about those with disabilities that do not render them unable to walk, but need the disabled spaces? That's a very old fashioned way of looking at disability
For example, people with severe heart conditions, arthritis, et.i willtell that to my quadraplegic dad when he has to abandon his shopping trip next time he cant park in a blue badge bay as they are all full, and other bays arent wide enough for him to get into his chair. and yes it happens alot, so sorry if you can walk then you should"
Blue badge holders who can walk have just as much right to park in the spaces as your Dad. Its not a competition.as in who is the most disabled.  |
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"blue badge spaces are for people who have to drivethemselves and neet to be as close as poss to where they are going, you said you let her out and then parked so no problem for you, my father is dissabled and really need his blue badge, it makes me socross when i see some one using one and then walk away from the car, this was never the intention, miss use is rife
Do you really think that just because someone can walk then they cant possibly have a disability/condition that entitles them to a blue badge?
The blue badge is only available to those with limited mobility so yes if someone can easily walk away from their car then they shouldn't have a blue badge!!
You are wrong. My son has one for a severe medical condition but to someone who didnt know he looks perfectly fine and walks normally. Some very old fashioned views on disability here "
I certainly don't have old fashioned views on disability at all however I am now disabled myself and having spent over 4 months jumping through hoops to get a blue badge I am fully aware that under the new legislation the person must have a severe mobility problem in order to get a blue badge now!!!
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By *ugby 123Couple
over a year ago
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" it makes me socross when i see some one using one and then walk away from the car,
What about those with disabilities that do not render them unable to walk, but need the disabled spaces? That's a very old fashioned way of looking at disability
For example, people with severe heart conditions, arthritis, et.
Cystic Fibrosis, Emphysema and other breathing problems too.
Honestly I'm quite shocked that there was a comment about people being able to walk! "
Because the badge is meant for people who have limited walking ability.
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"blue badge spaces are for people who have to drivethemselves and neet to be as close as poss to where they are going, you said you let her out and then parked so no problem for you, my father is dissabled and really need his blue badge, it makes me socross when i see some one using one and then walk away from the car, this was never the intention, miss use is rife
Do you really think that just because someone can walk then they cant possibly have a disability/condition that entitles them to a blue badge? why would you need it ifyou can walk fine "
Seriously?? Do you really think that people who can walk can't possibly be disabled? Good grief!! |
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" it makes me socross when i see some one using one and then walk away from the car,
What about those with disabilities that do not render them unable to walk, but need the disabled spaces? That's a very old fashioned way of looking at disability
For example, people with severe heart conditions, arthritis, et.i willtell that to my quadraplegic dad when he has to abandon his shopping trip next time he cant park in a blue badge bay as they are all full, and other bays arent wide enough for him to get into his chair. and yes it happens alot, so sorry if you can walk then you should"
how does he drive if he is quadraplegic? |
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By *B9 QueenWoman
over a year ago
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" it makes me socross when i see some one using one and then walk away from the car,
What about those with disabilities that do not render them unable to walk, but need the disabled spaces? That's a very old fashioned way of looking at disability
For example, people with severe heart conditions, arthritis, et.i willtell that to my quadraplegic dad when he has to abandon his shopping trip next time he cant park in a blue badge bay as they are all full, and other bays arent wide enough for him to get into his chair. and yes it happens alot, so sorry if you can walk then you should"
My mother was the same before her MS became too severe for her to walk. She could walk - short distances - and so she needed a disabled bay to cut down how far she would have to walk. If we imposed the rules you suggest then she would have been denied the opportunity to shop for herself and that would have been grossly unfair. I spent 8 years caring for my mum so I know what I am talking about. People may appear to you to be ok but you do not know how far they can really walk. If they have a blue badge they they are entitled to park there.
When all disabled bays were full and I could not park in a parent/child one, I would straddle two normal ones nearest the exit if I could to enable me to open the car doors wide enough to get my mum into her wheelchair. Later on she got a disabled van which was better as she was taken out of the back on a ramp. |
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By *ugby 123Couple
over a year ago
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This always happens on this subject, people get offended on behalf of other people who are disabled and to what level they are disabled.
Please don't let it go down the pissing contest route about who is more disabled
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By *rsK69Woman
over a year ago
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" it makes me socross when i see some one using one and then walk away from the car,
What about those with disabilities that do not render them unable to walk, but need the disabled spaces? That's a very old fashioned way of looking at disability
For example, people with severe heart conditions, arthritis, et.
Cystic Fibrosis, Emphysema and other breathing problems too.
Honestly I'm quite shocked that there was a comment about people being able to walk!
Because the badge is meant for people who have limited walking ability.
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My son has one as due to his medical condition.....walking can have a detrimental effect on his health. Yet he walks perfectly normally. |
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"blue badge spaces are for people who have to drivethemselves and neet to be as close as poss to where they are going, you said you let her out and then parked so no problem for you, my father is dissabled and really need his blue badge, it makes me socross when i see some one using one and then walk away from the car, this was never the intention, miss use is rife"
So if I can just about to walk to reception for a mobility scooter, I shouldn't have a blue badge and park as close as possible to the entrance? Not all Disabilities are visible. I cant get my wheelchair out of the boot when on my own, nor push myself, so have to get a scootay.  |
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By *rsK69Woman
over a year ago
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"This always happens on this subject, people get offended on behalf of other people who are disabled and to what level they are disabled.
Please don't let it go down the pissing contest route about who is more disabled
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Quite right....each blue badge holder has the same right as the next person to use the spaces |
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" it makes me socross when i see some one using one and then walk away from the car,
What about those with disabilities that do not render them unable to walk, but need the disabled spaces? That's a very old fashioned way of looking at disability
For example, people with severe heart conditions, arthritis, et.
Cystic Fibrosis, Emphysema and other breathing problems too.
Honestly I'm quite shocked that there was a comment about people being able to walk!
Because the badge is meant for people who have limited walking ability.
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Its for mobility issues (not arguing with a mod honestly Ruggers ) and people with the two breathing conditions I mentioned have mobility issues. As do people with Parkinson's and brain injuries. |
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"blue badge spaces are for people who have to drivethemselves and neet to be as close as poss to where they are going, you said you let her out and then parked so no problem for you, my father is dissabled and really need his blue badge, it makes me socross when i see some one using one and then walk away from the car, this was never the intention, miss use is rife
Do you really think that just because someone can walk then they cant possibly have a disability/condition that entitles them to a blue badge?
The blue badge is only available to those with limited mobility so yes if someone can easily walk away from their car then they shouldn't have a blue badge!!"
I am sorry but i think you are wrong in saying that, my daughter has severe Autism and profound learning difficulties and although she is quite spritely on her feet she has no knowledge of danger, we were given her badge for this reason.
There was talk of taking the badges away from disabilities like Autism and Downs but as far as i know it has never come to anything.
As for displaying the badge, I had an incident where the badge had fallen to the floor in the car and i had been clamped, my argument was that although the badge was not on show it clearly says on my tax disc that the car is registered to a disabled person and the clamp was removed...
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"yes... if she is entitled to one then get one....
obviously only use it when she is there... because you can be fined for fraudulently using it... but anything that makes her life easier is good...."
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" it makes me socross when i see some one using one and then walk away from the car,
What about those with disabilities that do not render them unable to walk, but need the disabled spaces? That's a very old fashioned way of looking at disability
For example, people with severe heart conditions, arthritis, et.i willtell that to my quadraplegic dad when he has to abandon his shopping trip next time he cant park in a blue badge bay as they are all full, and other bays arent wide enough for him to get into his chair. and yes it happens alot, so sorry if you can walk then you should
how does he drive if he is quadraplegic?"
converted car,he has limited mobility in his arms and can drive with handcontrols just fine |
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By *ugby 123Couple
over a year ago
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"This always happens on this subject, people get offended on behalf of other people who are disabled and to what level they are disabled.
Please don't let it go down the pissing contest route about who is more disabled
Quite right....each blue badge holder has the same right as the next person to use the spaces "
Id they have been awarded a badge then yes.
I do wonder how some people got them though. I watched a person park the car at a train station, walk over the vridge to catch the train and went into a Town to shop. Three and a half hours later I came back on the train and he was sat opposite me with all his bags of shopping , got off the train, got into his car with the disabled badge in and drove off.
Maybe he was having a good day which is a good thing, but he didn't need the disabled parking bay or to use his badge that day by the looks of it.
Disclaimer : I don't think every disabled person is faking it or doesn't need a blue badge. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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My nan never had a car but because she had difficulties walking, she was able to get a blue badge without a car registration on it that she could use in different cars if any of us took her out for the day, went shopping etc |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"A female friend of mine is disabled and her son got the blue badge on her behalf,as he drives her around. If you look into it as a relative you will also be able to get one."
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thats just plain wrong of the tesco person ... surely blue badges only apply on public roads and not on private property anyway .. what happened to using a bit of common sense .. do they think you cart about an oldie in a wheelchair just to get a better parking space |
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i actually asked someone who seemingly was fine as they parked in a blue badge spot what was wrong with them and she said oh its not for me i have a disabled son, but he wasnt with her and didnt see the harm in what she was doing, those are the people whomake me cross |
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By *ugby 123Couple
over a year ago
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" it makes me socross when i see some one using one and then walk away from the car,
What about those with disabilities that do not render them unable to walk, but need the disabled spaces? That's a very old fashioned way of looking at disability
For example, people with severe heart conditions, arthritis, et.
Cystic Fibrosis, Emphysema and other breathing problems too.
Honestly I'm quite shocked that there was a comment about people being able to walk!
Because the badge is meant for people who have limited walking ability.
Its for mobility issues (not arguing with a mod honestly Ruggers ) and people with the two breathing conditions I mentioned have mobility issues. As do people with Parkinson's and brain injuries."
If they have mobility issues then as I said, they are entitled to a badge.
Please don't keep making comments about me being a mod when I try and join in a debate....agree or disagree until your hearts content, it isn't against rules to do it. |
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By *rsK69Woman
over a year ago
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"thats just plain wrong of the tesco person ... surely blue badges only apply on public roads and not on private property anyway .. what happened to using a bit of common sense .. do they think you cart about an oldie in a wheelchair just to get a better parking space "
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By *B9 QueenWoman
over a year ago
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"This always happens on this subject, people get offended on behalf of other people who are disabled and to what level they are disabled.
Please don't let it go down the pissing contest route about who is more disabled
Quite right....each blue badge holder has the same right as the next person to use the spaces
Id they have been awarded a badge then yes.
I do wonder how some people got them though. I watched a person park the car at a train station, walk over the vridge to catch the train and went into a Town to shop. Three and a half hours later I came back on the train and he was sat opposite me with all his bags of shopping , got off the train, got into his car with the disabled badge in and drove off.
Maybe he was having a good day which is a good thing, but he didn't need the disabled parking bay or to use his badge that day by the looks of it.
Disclaimer : I don't think every disabled person is faking it or doesn't need a blue badge. "
How often during his shopping trip did he have to sit down and rest? Was there someone meeting him the other end to help him with his shopping? Did he go to a friend's house in that time for a visit and take a rest?
You cannot assume anything. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"i actually asked someone who seemingly was fine as they parked in a blue badge spot what was wrong with them and she said oh its not for me i have a disabled son, but he wasnt with her and didnt see the harm in what she was doing, those are the people whomake me cross"
That annoys me also and quite often i don't even use mine...Ruby |
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By *B9 QueenWoman
over a year ago
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"i actually asked someone who seemingly was fine as they parked in a blue badge spot what was wrong with them and she said oh its not for me i have a disabled son, but he wasnt with her and didnt see the harm in what she was doing, those are the people whomake me cross"
If they are caught they are in danger of losing the blue badge. I only ever used my mum's if I was driving her around. Once she got her disabled van it lived there and was never even taken out of it. |
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Not read all thread so forgive me if this has already been said. I got a blue badge for my mum last time I was there. She is 83 and finds it really hard to walk. The badge I'd for her not any car so although my dad has a car if I or my brothers go there we can use the badge as well. Don't try to apply for one on line but phone up. I called on the Monday and mum had it by the Wednesday. |
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"i actually asked someone who seemingly was fine as they parked in a blue badge spot what was wrong with them and she said oh its not for me i have a disabled son, but he wasnt with her and didnt see the harm in what she was doing, those are the people whomake me cross
That annoys me also and quite often i don't even use mine...Ruby"
welldone you, if youare having a good day and dont need it then its the right thing to do x |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"thats just plain wrong of the tesco person ... surely blue badges only apply on public roads and not on private property anyway .. what happened to using a bit of common sense .. do they think you cart about an oldie in a wheelchair just to get a better parking space
Just had an image from Little Britain in my head after reading that lol "
You saying that reminded me of a time when i was in Tesco's once, i had my daughter in a disabled trolly. I turned and walked down the aisle to get something off the shelf, when i got back my daughter had a bag of sweets in her hand, and i said her where did you get those, now she has no speech so she was just smiling at me an elderly lady came up to me and said that she had never seen someone move as quick as she did to get the sweets and it made me laugh because it made me think of "Little Britain" |
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By *ugby 123Couple
over a year ago
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"This always happens on this subject, people get offended on behalf of other people who are disabled and to what level they are disabled.
Please don't let it go down the pissing contest route about who is more disabled
Quite right....each blue badge holder has the same right as the next person to use the spaces
Id they have been awarded a badge then yes.
I do wonder how some people got them though. I watched a person park the car at a train station, walk over the vridge to catch the train and went into a Town to shop. Three and a half hours later I came back on the train and he was sat opposite me with all his bags of shopping , got off the train, got into his car with the disabled badge in and drove off.
Maybe he was having a good day which is a good thing, but he didn't need the disabled parking bay or to use his badge that day by the looks of it.
Disclaimer : I don't think every disabled person is faking it or doesn't need a blue badge.
How often during his shopping trip did he have to sit down and rest? Was there someone meeting him the other end to help him with his shopping? Did he go to a friend's house in that time for a visit and take a rest?
You cannot assume anything."
Sorry I am not in the habit of following men round town so can't possibly comment.
But by the amount of shopping he had and the way he walked to his car with his purchases I reckon he had more shopping left in him.....unless as you say he had a personal shopper doing it for him.
I can safely assume he didn't look like he needed a blue badge that day. I don't know if he needed it any other day. |
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By *B9 QueenWoman
over a year ago
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"thats just plain wrong of the tesco person ... surely blue badges only apply on public roads and not on private property anyway .. what happened to using a bit of common sense .. do they think you cart about an oldie in a wheelchair just to get a better parking space "
They apply on private land too. A supermarket, for example, has a legal obligation to provide a certain about of disabled bays. They are also obliged to police them themselves. Therefore, it is necessary to display a blue badge. |
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By *B9 QueenWoman
over a year ago
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"This always happens on this subject, people get offended on behalf of other people who are disabled and to what level they are disabled.
Please don't let it go down the pissing contest route about who is more disabled
Quite right....each blue badge holder has the same right as the next person to use the spaces
Id they have been awarded a badge then yes.
I do wonder how some people got them though. I watched a person park the car at a train station, walk over the vridge to catch the train and went into a Town to shop. Three and a half hours later I came back on the train and he was sat opposite me with all his bags of shopping , got off the train, got into his car with the disabled badge in and drove off.
Maybe he was having a good day which is a good thing, but he didn't need the disabled parking bay or to use his badge that day by the looks of it.
Disclaimer : I don't think every disabled person is faking it or doesn't need a blue badge.
How often during his shopping trip did he have to sit down and rest? Was there someone meeting him the other end to help him with his shopping? Did he go to a friend's house in that time for a visit and take a rest?
You cannot assume anything.
Sorry I am not in the habit of following men round town so can't possibly comment.
But by the amount of shopping he had and the way he walked to his car with his purchases I reckon he had more shopping left in him.....unless as you say he had a personal shopper doing it for him.
I can safely assume he didn't look like he needed a blue badge that day. I don't know if he needed it any other day. "
My mum used to bring home her entire week's food shopping for her and my dad. But she most certainly needed a disabled bay to park in.
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"blue badge spaces are for people who have to drivethemselves and neet to be as close as poss to where they are going, you said you let her out and then parked so no problem for you, my father is dissabled and really need his blue badge, it makes me socross when i see some one using one and then walk away from the car, this was never the intention, miss use is rife
Do you really think that just because someone can walk then they cant possibly have a disability/condition that entitles them to a blue badge?
The blue badge is only available to those with limited mobility so yes if someone can easily walk away from their car then they shouldn't have a blue badge!!
You are wrong. My son has one for a severe medical condition but to someone who didnt know he looks perfectly fine and walks normally. Some very old fashioned views on disability here "
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By *s louWoman
over a year ago
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"i actually asked someone who seemingly was fine as they parked in a blue badge spot what was wrong with them and she said oh its not for me i have a disabled son, but he wasnt with her and didnt see the harm in what she was doing, those are the people whomake me cross"
I know a woman locally whose husband has parkinsons. He has a blue badge but is very rarely in the car with her. Its amazing how many times you see her parking in disabled spaces without him and tottering down the road in her high heels....it annoys me to see it! One of the big supermarkets here also tried something a few years back where if someone was in a similar situation to the op then they could get a temp permit to park in the disabled spaces - don't know if they still do it though.... |
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"I suppose if the carpark gives tickets out if a badge isn't displayed then you might have ended up with one as they don't know the person in the shop is in a wheelchair....which means you could have been more annoyed coming back to that.
( not sure if supermarkets give tickets out though )"
I got a ticket at Asda a few weeks ago. I parked in the disabled bay as I was taking an elderly relative shopping. She was on crutches after a hip replacement and could barely walk anyway due to arthritis- we used a store wheelchair in the shop.
The car park guy said he was sorry but there was nothing he could do and we should appeal. When I went online to pay the fine it had already been cancelled. Nice guy.
I was really pissed off though because there's always loads of able bodied people parking in the spaces. |
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By *nnyMan
over a year ago
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"thats just plain wrong of the tesco person ... surely blue badges only apply on public roads and not on private property anyway .. what happened to using a bit of common sense .. do they think you cart about an oldie in a wheelchair just to get a better parking space
They apply on private land too. A supermarket, for example, has a legal obligation to provide a certain about of disabled bays. They are also obliged to police them themselves. Therefore, it is necessary to display a blue badge."
But given that it IS private land, I'm unsure what sanction a supermarket can take against anyone who doesn't comply with the supermarket's 'rules' about using the car park - other than to ban the offender from using the car park or the store. |
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By *B9 QueenWoman
over a year ago
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"thats just plain wrong of the tesco person ... surely blue badges only apply on public roads and not on private property anyway .. what happened to using a bit of common sense .. do they think you cart about an oldie in a wheelchair just to get a better parking space
They apply on private land too. A supermarket, for example, has a legal obligation to provide a certain about of disabled bays. They are also obliged to police them themselves. Therefore, it is necessary to display a blue badge.
But given that it IS private land, I'm unsure what sanction a supermarket can take against anyone who doesn't comply with the supermarket's 'rules' about using the car park - other than to ban the offender from using the car park or the store."
It's certainly a grey area but they can still clamp and insist on drivers paying a fee to unclamp if there are clearly displayed warnings. |
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By *inaTitzTV/TS
over a year ago
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I used to work with a chap who was built like a bull. He looked so hale and hearty and full of life you'd never believe he had a false leg from the r/h knee down.
He once went shopping in Derby and got involved in an heated argument with an OAP about him parking in a disabled space. The OAP's view was that my pal looked so healthy he didn't believe he had come by the blue badge honestly and he told him just how sick peeps like him made him feel.
My friend got that frustrated with being on the receiving end he ended up taking his false leg off and chucking it at the guy |
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"blue badge spaces are for people who have to drivethemselves and neet to be as close as poss to where they are going, you said you let her out and then parked so no problem for you, my father is dissabled and really need his blue badge, it makes me socross when i see some one using one and then walk away from the car, this was never the intention, miss use is rife
Do you really think that just because someone can walk then they cant possibly have a disability/condition that entitles them to a blue badge?
The blue badge is only available to those with limited mobility so yes if someone can easily walk away from their car then they shouldn't have a blue badge!!
You are wrong. My son has one for a severe medical condition but to someone who didnt know he looks perfectly fine and walks normally. Some very old fashioned views on disability here aint there just "
surely if he walks normaly he doesnt need a blue badge, or do you mean it looks like he walks normaly but cant infact walk far? |
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"thats just plain wrong of the tesco person ... surely blue badges only apply on public roads and not on private property anyway .. what happened to using a bit of common sense .. do they think you cart about an oldie in a wheelchair just to get a better parking space
They apply on private land too. A supermarket, for example, has a legal obligation to provide a certain about of disabled bays. They are also obliged to police them themselves. Therefore, it is necessary to display a blue badge.
But given that it IS private land, I'm unsure what sanction a supermarket can take against anyone who doesn't comply with the supermarket's 'rules' about using the car park - other than to ban the offender from using the car park or the store.
It's certainly a grey area but they can still clamp and insist on drivers paying a fee to unclamp if there are clearly displayed warnings. "
A lot of super market car parks ( and some pub )are owned and run by private firms. The main one I beleive is Euro parks and it is them not the supermarket that police it. Our local asda has a pay and display and if you spend over £5 you get the fee back. The other shops that share the car park don't give you anything back. |
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"You need to be registered as disabled in order to have a blue badge so that you can park in a disabled space....it's worth looking into getting her a blur badge
but she dont live with us, not even in the same county, only visits at christmas as we dont want her to be on her own and no one else wants her"
The blue badge is registered to her so can be used whenever you see her. Far too many people abuse the system hence you being pulled up. It is not job worth, it is merely someone enforcing the rules, correctly in this case.
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By *ugby 123Couple
over a year ago
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My mum used to bring home her entire week's food shopping for her and my dad. But she most certainly needed a disabled bay to park in.
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I think you are missing the point of what I was saing. I am all for people using the badge if they need it.
If they don't need it I don't think they should use it for that day.
If your mum can carry her shopping all around town after doing her shopping then I would have thought the same thing as the man I saw.
On THAT day he didn't need to use the disabled bay as he was able to get around. |
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By *ugby 123Couple
over a year ago
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"I suppose if the carpark gives tickets out if a badge isn't displayed then you might have ended up with one as they don't know the person in the shop is in a wheelchair....which means you could have been more annoyed coming back to that.
( not sure if supermarkets give tickets out though )
I got a ticket at Asda a few weeks ago. I parked in the disabled bay as I was taking an elderly relative shopping. She was on crutches after a hip replacement and could barely walk anyway due to arthritis- we used a store wheelchair in the shop.
The car park guy said he was sorry but there was nothing he could do and we should appeal. When I went online to pay the fine it had already been cancelled. Nice guy.
I was really pissed off though because there's always loads of able bodied people parking in the spaces."
Ah you answered my query, Thanks.
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"got an 82 year old relative staying with us for christmas, they are in a wheelchair as can barely walk, lives on her own, widowed many years and never had a car, so, was told today at tesco that i could not park in the disabled bay for her as we dont have a blue disability badge,
does the badge really matter that much if you have a disabled person with you who has never had or needed to have one???
was not a problem as such as i just dropped her off at the door, then parked up further away and picked her back up at the door, it was just the "jobsworths" attitude that got up my nose.
sorry for the late rant "
Not quite sure how a blue badge would help as Tesco is private property, and not patrolled by local parking authorities |
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By *rsK69Woman
over a year ago
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"blue badge spaces are for people who have to drivethemselves and neet to be as close as poss to where they are going, you said you let her out and then parked so no problem for you, my father is dissabled and really need his blue badge, it makes me socross when i see some one using one and then walk away from the car, this was never the intention, miss use is rife
Do you really think that just because someone can walk then they cant possibly have a disability/condition that entitles them to a blue badge?
The blue badge is only available to those with limited mobility so yes if someone can easily walk away from their car then they shouldn't have a blue badge!!
You are wrong. My son has one for a severe medical condition but to someone who didnt know he looks perfectly fine and walks normally. Some very old fashioned views on disability here aint there just surely if he walks normaly he doesnt need a blue badge, or do you mean it looks like he walks normaly but cant infact walk far?"
Walking can cause complications due to his condition. |
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"blue badge spaces are for people who have to drivethemselves and neet to be as close as poss to where they are going, you said you let her out and then parked so no problem for you, my father is dissabled and really need his blue badge, it makes me socross when i see some one using one and then walk away from the car, this was never the intention, miss use is rife
Do you really think that just because someone can walk then they cant possibly have a disability/condition that entitles them to a blue badge?
The blue badge is only available to those with limited mobility so yes if someone can easily walk away from their car then they shouldn't have a blue badge!!
You are wrong. My son has one for a severe medical condition but to someone who didnt know he looks perfectly fine and walks normally. Some very old fashioned views on disability here aint there just surely if he walks normaly he doesnt need a blue badge, or do you mean it looks like he walks normaly but cant infact walk far?
Walking can cause complications due to his condition. "
Blue badge not only for mobility can be issued to registred blind / partially sighted, upper limb problems plus other issues |
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By *B9 QueenWoman
over a year ago
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My mum used to bring home her entire week's food shopping for her and my dad. But she most certainly needed a disabled bay to park in.
I think you are missing the point of what I was saing. I am all for people using the badge if they need it.
If they don't need it I don't think they should use it for that day.
If your mum can carry her shopping all around town after doing her shopping then I would have thought the same thing as the man I saw.
On THAT day he didn't need to use the disabled bay as he was able to get around. "
My mother absolutely needed a disabled bay regardless of whether someone just looking at her may have thought. Unless she parked close to the doirs she would not have had the energy to get around the shop and back to her car. Also she also needed the energy to carry the shopping from her car into the house once she was home. Had she had to park some distance from the store entrance then this would not have been possible.
As her condition progressed sge was unabke to do even this and ended up very severely disabled needing constant care.
Her condition was terminal and eventually caused her death. But early on after diagnosis most would not have realised what was wrong with her. |
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By *rsK69Woman
over a year ago
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My mum used to bring home her entire week's food shopping for her and my dad. But she most certainly needed a disabled bay to park in.
I think you are missing the point of what I was saing. I am all for people using the badge if they need it.
If they don't need it I don't think they should use it for that day.
If your mum can carry her shopping all around town after doing her shopping then I would have thought the same thing as the man I saw.
On THAT day he didn't need to use the disabled bay as he was able to get around.
My mother absolutely needed a disabled bay regardless of whether someone just looking at her may have thought. Unless she parked close to the doirs she would not have had the energy to get around the shop and back to her car. Also she also needed the energy to carry the shopping from her car into the house once she was home. Had she had to park some distance from the store entrance then this would not have been possible.
As her condition progressed sge was unabke to do even this and ended up very severely disabled needing constant care.
Her condition was terminal and eventually caused her death. But early on after diagnosis most would not have realised what was wrong with her."
This is the problem people are so quick to assume things without knowing the full story. A blue badge holder can use it every day not just on a 'bad day'. There is nothing in the guidance booklet which says if you're having a "good day" then you shouldnt use the designated parking bays which you are fully entitled to use
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By *ugby 123Couple
over a year ago
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A blue badge holder can use it every day not just on a 'bad day'. There is nothing in the guidance booklet which says if you're having a "good day" then you shouldnt use the designated parking bays which you are fully entitled to use
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You would think those disabled people having a good day would want to leave the bay for someone who needs it that day |
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i agree with Ruggers, just because a person is entitled to use a space how would they feel if on a busy day (and they were having a bad day) but the spaces were filled by users who were actually ok on that day? |
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By (user no longer on site)
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I use a disabled badge every time it go out in a works car. Sometimes the reason for using it is obvious and at other times it's not. There are many reasons for having a disabled badge and just because someone doesn't look disabled it doesn't mean they are not disabled. |
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By *ugby 123Couple
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My mum used to bring home her entire week's food shopping for her and my dad. But she most certainly needed a disabled bay to park in.
I think you are missing the point of what I was saing. I am all for people using the badge if they need it.
If they don't need it I don't think they should use it for that day.
If your mum can carry her shopping all around town after doing her shopping then I would have thought the same thing as the man I saw.
On THAT day he didn't need to use the disabled bay as he was able to get around.
My mother absolutely needed a disabled bay regardless of whether someone just looking at her may have thought. Unless she parked close to the doirs she would not have had the energy to get around the shop and back to her car. Also she also needed the energy to carry the shopping from her car into the house once she was home. Had she had to park some distance from the store entrance then this would not have been possible.
As her condition progressed sge was unabke to do even this and ended up very severely disabled needing constant care.
Her condition was terminal and eventually caused her death. But early on after diagnosis most would not have realised what was wrong with her."
To be fair you are doing what happened last time and taking it personally as if people are talking about your mum.
You brought up your mum when I was describing what I saw , I didn't say your mum didn't need a disabled badge , I said if she had done what the man I saw do then I would be looking at it the same way.
I am not talking about your mum or her disablities and if I am honest I don't wish to talk about them.
I am offering my view of....Sometimes it looks like people don't need a disabled badge on the day that they may be having a good day.
Sometimes people have or use badges and shouldn't be.
Rather than defend every person who has a disabled badge , maybe just accept there are people about who played the system to get one and one of those people could be who people see parking in disabled bays. |
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"i agree with Ruggers, just because a person is entitled to use a space how would they feel if on a busy day (and they were having a bad day) but the spaces were filled by users who were actually ok on that day?"
If that was the case I would have people shouting at me every time I parked up because people would think who I am with are not disabled. |
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By *ugby 123Couple
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"i agree with Ruggers, just because a person is entitled to use a space how would they feel if on a busy day (and they were having a bad day) but the spaces were filled by users who were actually ok on that day?
If that was the case I would have people shouting at me every time I parked up because people would think who I am with are not disabled. "
You are missing the point, like a lot on this thread. |
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By *B9 QueenWoman
over a year ago
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Not at all taking it personally. I simply used my mum as an example I am familiar with to illustrate a point. That merely by looking no one can tell who is or is not disabled. So making judgements based only on a brief sighting is a tad unfair. In order for a disabled person to qualify for DLA for example they need to be assessed by a medical professional. This is not done by simply looking at them. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Not at all taking it personally. I simply used my mum as an example I am familiar with to illustrate a point. That merely by looking no one can tell who is or is not disabled. So making judgements based only on a brief sighting is a tad unfair. In order for a disabled person to qualify for DLA for example they need to be assessed by a medical professional. This is not done by simply looking at them."
My mum never saw any medical professional when I applied for hers. It was done over the phone on the Monday and she had it by the Wednesday. Maybe being aged 83 had a lot to do with it  |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"i agree with Ruggers, just because a person is entitled to use a space how would they feel if on a busy day (and they were having a bad day) but the spaces were filled by users who were actually ok on that day?"
I agree with that too. |
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By *ilandlarryCouple
over a year ago
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"blue badge spaces are for people who have to drivethemselves and neet to be as close as poss to where they are going, you said you let her out and then parked so no problem for you, my father is dissabled and really need his blue badge, it makes me socross when i see some one using one and then walk away from the car, this was never the intention, miss use is rife
Do you really think that just because someone can walk then they cant possibly have a disability/condition that entitles them to a blue badge?
The blue badge is only available to those with limited mobility so yes if someone can easily walk away from their car then they shouldn't have a blue badge!!"
My gran can walk away easily from the car but she cannot walk far. She has a blue badge which gets used if she is in the car. A blue badge is not just about limited mobility. There is a lot more that goes in to it.
Just because someone can use their legs does not mean they are not disabled! |
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One of my best friends has been diabetic since she was a small child. Amongst the many problems diabetes causes it has affected the circulation to her feet. Walking and standing cause her severe pain.
She is younger than me and most people would never suspect she has any health problems let alone lives with such major pain.
Disabilities are not always obvious just by looking. |
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By *nnyMan
over a year ago
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The Blue Badge Scheme in Scotland says
"You are automatically eligible for a badge if you are over two years old and meet one of the following criteria:
? you receive the Higher Rate of the Mobility Component of the
Disability Living Allowance; or
? you meet a ‘Moving Around’
descriptor for the Mobility Component of the Personal Independence Payment (PIP) that indicates that they either cannot stand or can stand but walk no more than 50 metres (8 points or more); or
? you meet the 'Planning and Following Journeys' descriptor for the Mobility
Component of Personal Independence Payment (PIP) that indicates that they
can't follow the route of a familiar journey without another person, an assistance dog or an orientation
aid (12 points); or
? you are blind or registered blind; or
? you receive a War Pensioners’ Mobility Supplement; or
? you have received a lump sum benefit within tariffs 1 to 8 of the Armed Forces
and Reserve Forces (Compensation) Scheme and have been certified as having
a permanent and substantial difficulty which causes inability to walk or very
considerable difficulty in walking."
Sorry about the formatting but I've fiddled with it enough and it still won't play.
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