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By (user no longer on site) OP over a year ago

I'm blonde so do forgive me!! Been out tonight and driving home I came across a forward facing speed camera I think I was doing 35 as thought it was a 40 zone!!. Just past the camera I saw a 30 sign :-/. So my question do they flash at all??? So you know if you got caught I saw a green light in the bit where the camera was so does this mean I got caught??

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Nahh.. would have flashed..

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

You would have known if it took a picture it is very bright flash almost blinds you .

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Right the police allow a margin of 10% plus 2mph above the speed limit so in theory you have to be travelling at above 35mph in a 30mph zone before your breaking the law. Plus speed cameras (especially gatso) are not the pinpoint accurate instruments they are portrayed to be hence the white line's in the road in front of them so there is an allowance with them also depending on the placement of them. So if it didn't Flash then it didn't clock you. Plus the speedo in your car or any car for that matter is not that accurate either its only a guide. Someone will come along and argue with me but I've been told this by the guy who calibrates speed cameras for the local police force.

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By *hocksandmissusCouple over a year ago

Chester-ish

as far as i am aware speed cameras only take pics from behind you as if they were to flash in your face that could lead to accidents xxxxxx

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"as far as i am aware speed cameras only take pics from behind you as if they were to flash in your face that could lead to accidents xxxxxx"

That isn't true, which contradicts the reason they are supposedly there for; -harvesting - 'erhem' - I mean road safety!!

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

If it's any consolation, you will know within 14 days.

speedometers will always say you are going faster than you really are, hence the 10% +2mph, 30 = 35 true speed= around 40 on the speedo....fined.

I know it doesn't help with the worry, but you will kniw in less than 14 days.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

only a small % have the working camera in at any time

Thames Valley 360 of the yellow box things only 22 internal camera's that get moved about (as of four years ago).

You'd have to have to have been pretty unlucky

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Yeah would have flashed! Got caught in peters st Giles at 5am last September! And it flashed caught doing 35 in a 30! Did a speed awareness corse! And was told there if I was doing 34 I would not have been done!!

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Hi again just one thing! Forourfun is right if your speedo was saying 35. Your actual speed was only 33! You can check this with a sat nav! Do 40mph and check your sat nav it will say your only doing 37. And that's what the cameras use! True speed!!!!

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

More than half of them don't even have film in,

and that's off a traffic cop.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

I don't know if this applied in this country (feel free to let me know), but initially they were supposedly only targeting excessive speeding but, over time it was revealed that it was actually the top percentage (say 10%) that were receiving the fines; whom evidently weren't necessarily excessively speeding.

Just another money grabbing tax - in other words!!!

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By *ittle_brat_evie!!Woman over a year ago

evesham

"Right the police allow a margin of 10% plus 2mph above the speed limit so in theory you have to be travelling at above 35mph in a 30mph zone before your breaking the law. Plus speed cameras (especially gatso) are not the pinpoint accurate instruments they are portrayed to be hence the white line's in the road in front of them so there is an allowance with them also depending on the placement of them. So if it didn't Flash then it didn't clock you. Plus the speedo in your car or any car for that matter is not that accurate either its only a guide. Someone will come along and argue with me but I've been told this by the guy who calibrates speed cameras for the local police force. "

Not true. Each force has its own discretion ontthe 10% plus 2. I got caught doing 34 in a 30 once and went on one of those speed awareness courses.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Hi again just one thing! Forourfun is right if your speedo was saying 35. Your actual speed was only 33! You can check this with a sat nav! Do 40mph and check your sat nav it will say your only doing 37. And that's what the cameras use! True speed!!!!"

Thats not true at all, speedos have no built in under-readings, they are simply a gauge and are never accurate, and also very at speed, due to tyre growth

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"More than half of them don't even have film in,

and that's off a traffic cop."

this.

apparently these things are quite expensive to run and maintain, so they use them as a deterrant more often than not.

that said, i have seen some flash randomly in the past, especially the ones on the motorway gantries, just to give the impression they are working, so who knows.

as said, you will find out soon enough, then just go on the course thing

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Speed cameras are no longer allowed to flash in your face, so that said don't worry you have not been caught

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

We should think ourselves lucky in the UK as we are told where the cameras are and fines not not to heavy.

I got caught in OZ in the middle of nowhere by a cop in a car driving towards me and the fine was _$1000 au

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By *amslam1000Man over a year ago

willenhall

in the west mids all of them are off but the motorways is not run by the cops so all the roadworks average speed cams are on and "harvesting" a great deal of money

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By *ittle_brat_evie!!Woman over a year ago

evesham

They only harvest money because people speed. If they didn't speed they wouldn't get any money.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Traditionally you used to the have the flashing rear cameras made called Gatso and then you had these front facing Truvelo cameras.

These days there are many different types of cameras and some flash and some are sophisticated and use special technology and don't flash. In terms of camera film, many modern cameras don't use film and electronically store or send images to the authorities.

My advice to the OP would be to try and forget about it and if you get a notice of intended prosecution then ask for advice either on here or a specialist forum. For now don't worry about something that may not even happen!

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

If you were driving towards it, with the camera facing you then it would've been focused on the other side of the road not your side.

It would never flash in your face, that would startle you and cause an accident.

But as said you will know in 14 days

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

just remember your speedo reads high an the camera also has aa few mph leeway in it. so you're usually good. an trust me you know when they've gone off lol fuckign blinding.

there's a piture from a Front facing one of me in my first few weeks riding doing an endo through it as i panicked an slammed on before realizing that i dont have a plate on the front lol.

still don't know how i dint crash lol

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By *ittle_brat_evie!!Woman over a year ago

evesham

I thought they used front facing ones to capture who was driving as some people try to get other people to take their points for them if they are near 12

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"We should think ourselves lucky in the UK as we are told where the cameras are and fines not not to heavy.

I got caught in OZ in the middle of nowhere by a cop in a car driving towards me and the fine was _$1000 au"

come to north wales o na sunny day the police are all over the country side hiding their cars down different roads then sitting with the gun on bends an anywhere they think they can get you.

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By (user no longer on site) OP over a year ago

Thanks everyone guess I will have to wait!! Fingers crossed I didn't get caught as that makes it an expensive meet hahahaha

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By *eryBigGirlWoman over a year ago

East Yorkshire

"If you were driving towards it, with the camera facing you then it would've been focused on the other side of the road not your side.

It would never flash in your face, that would startle you and cause an accident.

But as said you will know in 14 days

Not necessarily true I was done by a van I drove towards with the camera facing me and it didn't flash but the fine appeared shortly after!!

As for the 30 plus 2% in my police area it's only 1% so was done at 35 in a 30

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"We should think ourselves lucky in the UK as we are told where the cameras are and fines not not to heavy.

I got caught in OZ in the middle of nowhere by a cop in a car driving towards me and the fine was _$1000 au

come to north wales o na sunny day the police are all over the country side hiding their cars down different roads then sitting with the gun on bends an anywhere they think they can get you."

Been there many times, so know what they are like, but not in the same league as the OZ police, they have been known to cut holes in wheely bins and hide the cameras in them

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"We should think ourselves lucky in the UK as we are told where the cameras are and fines not not to heavy.

I got caught in OZ in the middle of nowhere by a cop in a car driving towards me and the fine was _$1000 au

come to north wales o na sunny day the police are all over the country side hiding their cars down different roads then sitting with the gun on bends an anywhere they think they can get you.

Been there many times, so know what they are like, but not in the same league as the OZ police, they have been known to cut holes in wheely bins and hide the cameras in them"

mate got had off by one hiding between two bins, but he caught the copper on his helmet cam, so they court ruled it wasn't allowed as he was hiding out of sight.

interestingly no disciplinary for the policeman who had written and sworn testimony that he was stood upright at the side of the road in full view and wearing hi vis and that my mate had been riding so carelessly that he did not see him.

You'd like to think falsifying evidence/a police report would be instant dismissal wouldn't you?

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Thats not true at all, speedos have no built in under-readings, they are simply a gauge and are never accurate, and also very at speed, due to tyre growth "

A speedometer fitted to a uk spec car, with the recomended tyers, will always say you are going faster than you really are. The margin of error is needed. Hence people do not get tickeets at 31 mph, but at least around 35mph true speed, not spedo speed which would be nearer 40mph... just yse your satnav or even your phone with gps on....

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

LOL maybe on planet tidy

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By *ittle_brat_evie!!Woman over a year ago

evesham

How do you know he wasn't disciplined? I would have thought they wouldn't be allowed to tell you things like that as its their personal employment record.

I've always wondered why they are so conspicuous personally. In Austria they are just grey boxes that blend info the general roadside surroundings.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"How do you know he wasn't disciplined? I would have thought they wouldn't be allowed to tell you things like that as its their personal employment record.

cause he's still out there at the weekends.

we like to wave to him

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By *ittle_brat_evie!!Woman over a year ago

evesham

"How do you know he wasn't disciplined? I would have thought they wouldn't be allowed to tell you things like that as its their personal employment record.

cause he's still out there at the weekends.

we like to wave to him

That doesn't mean he wasn't disciplined lol

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

The white lines are a secondary measure (cause the camera takes two photos an exact time apart you can use the lines to calculate speed) so that you cannot argue that the camera may be inaccurate.

also they help slow drivers down.

One of the main uses of placing the boxes (most don't have cameras) is to slow people down in specific areas, like near children's parks crossings etc. as everyone knows a 30 with a camera on it is a 25mph road when you see the speed of the traffic :p

people may ignore a speed sign but the white lines + camera box usually slows them down enough to get them through the risk area safely.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"How do you know he wasn't disciplined? I would have thought they wouldn't be allowed to tell you things like that as its their personal employment record.

cause he's still out there at the weekends.

we like to wave to him

That doesn't mean he wasn't disciplined lol"

well he's still employed which is the issue, he lied in court and on official documents. if i did that even in my job i'd be fired. i don't see why a police officer is allowed to get away with it do you?

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Its about time people realised driving a car is being in control of a lethal weapon, why would any sensible person consider driving faster than the legal speed limits?

if you read the highway code it tells you how to recognise speed limits on different roads, by line markings, lighting, you don't need to see a speed sign, Speed cams are their to save lives, not to punish you, if people drove within the legal speed limit, the police would be free to help other people.

Driving above the speed limit is dangerous, stupid and criminal.

As for the clever clogs, suggesting ways to avoid being fined, how pathetic, get a life, keep to the law and be safe.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"How do you know he wasn't disciplined? I would have thought they wouldn't be allowed to tell you things like that as its their personal employment record.

cause he's still out there at the weekends.

we like to wave to him

That doesn't mean he wasn't disciplined lol

of course, for the same reason people are saying 10 % allowance, tyre conditions , and moaning about everything, if you do the crime, grow a pair of balls and do the time!

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

The law for car speedometers in the UK

The UK law is based on the EU standard, with some minor changes. A speedo must never show less than the actual speed, and must never show more than 110% of actual speed + 6.25mph. So if your true speed is 40mph, your speedo could legally be reading up to 50.25mph but never less than 40mph. Or to put it another way, if your speedo is reading 50mph, you won’t be doing more than 50mph but it’s possible you might actually only be travelling at 40mph.To ensure that they comply with the law and make sure that their speedometers are never showing less than true speed under any forseeable circumstances, car manufacturers will normally deliberately calibrate their speedos to read ‘high’ by a certain amount. As your satnav is not the designated device by which a car’s speed is measured, it does not need to incorporate any fudge factoring.

Just google accuracy of the speedometer, take your pick which site you want to read.....

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

I would suggest testing it with a sat nav before making any assumptions because it depends on lots of things. With my summer tyres, my speedo is 100% accurate, with the winter ones on, it's out by 10% in my favour...

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

of course, for the same reason people are saying 10 % allowance, tyre conditions , and moaning about everything, if you do the crime, grow a pair of balls and do the time!"

so you're saying that yes he should of been fired an be currently being charged with perjury?

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

if you're changing the diameter of your wheel/Tyre then yes you'll alter the speedos reading, but from factory it should by default read high. also it depends on the manufacturer, yamaha bikes speedos are often very high reading when it gets to the top end (they even did this with the tach on one model) so people can get their bragging rights.

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By *arnaclebillMan over a year ago

Robin Hood County

"More than half of them don't even have film in,

and that's off a traffic cop."

But some of them are digital and don't need film

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"More than half of them don't even have film in,

and that's off a traffic cop.

But some of them are digital and don't need film"

it one way of saying it the actual thing is they don't have cameras i them, the box is cheap the camera is very expensive, so they move the cameras about between the boxes.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Thanks everyone guess I will have to wait!! Fingers crossed I didn't get caught as that makes it an expensive meet hahahaha "

Probably £100 and 3 points.

Or a £80 speed awareness course if you haven;t had one in the last 3 years and your police are part of the scheme.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"If you were driving towards it, with the camera facing you then it would've been focused on the other side of the road not your side.

It would never flash in your face, that would startle you and cause an accident.

But as said you will know in 14 days

Not necessarily true I was done by a van I drove towards with the camera facing me and it didn't flash but the fine appeared shortly after!!

As for the 30 plus 2% in my police area it's only 1% so was done at 35 in a 30

Cameras used to be allowed to flash in your face but this has changed and they are not allowed to flash in your face any more

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

From , let's just say an insider , you have nothing to worry about x

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By *ucky1Man over a year ago

a straightjacket

Not sure if this has already been mentioned, but IF you do get a fine through the post, reply back asking for a copy of the certificate of calibration for the camera....... Someone I know did this and the county courts never continued the case for the fine!

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By *mm_n_ZedCouple over a year ago

Fareham

Not true. Each force has its own discretion ontthe 10% plus 2. I got caught doing 34 in a 30 once and went on one of those speed awareness courses. "

You're right Elfie - I was also clocked by a mobile unit and done for doing 34 in a 30. I took the points and fine though.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

im pretty sure youll be okay as others have pointed out,but i had seen that there going to have speed cameras in cats eyes.also to monitor if you are taxed.this was on a program a few months ago.

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By *inaTitzTV/TS over a year ago

Titz Towers, North Notts

A friend of mine got involved in a lengthy exchange of correspondence involving a speeding fine. She was photographed in girly mode and the car is registered to her male side and she had to work hard to convince them it was actually the same person driving and not an attempt to offload points onto some lass

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"im pretty sure youll be okay as others have pointed out,but i had seen that there going to have speed cameras in cats eyes.also to monitor if you are taxed.this was on a program a few months ago."

cameras maybe, or sensors, but cant be speed cameras if they are there to check tax.....

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Thats the new Digital version , forward facing .

For obvious reasons they dont flash and not only take a picture of your car , but also of the person driving too .

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Thats the new Digital version , forward facing .

For obvious reasons they dont flash and not only take a picture of your car , but also of the person driving too ."

Cameras checking 'car tax' along with Insurance and if the vehicle is SORN is already here. Also many police cars have the cameras now.

Plus the tax disc on the windscreen is about to go, not needed....

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By *eMontresMan over a year ago

Halesowen

Too much confusion with terms and not enough info.

Which way was it facing? By forward facing do you mean facing forwards from your perspective, i.e. the way you were travelling, or facing towards you?

What colour was the box.

Was it on your left or right.

Gatsos face away from you and get you from behind - they flash. They will be on your left as you pass them, or are mounted on gantries.

Truvelos face towards you and work on Infra red - no flash. They can be either side.

Spex are average speed cameras, facing towards you, no flash. They use ANPR to calculate your average speed between two points.

Speedos generally over read, and almost never under read, but it's not a certainty.

The 10% plus 2 guideline, is just that, a guideline, there's no compulsion for forces to use it. In theory you could be done for 1/2 mph over the limit.

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By *eMontresMan over a year ago

Halesowen

Oh and I forgot the white van man cameras that they use in lay bys or whilst parked on bridges overlooking the road below. No flash, APNR, laser activated, instant spot speed readout.

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By *attykitWoman over a year ago

leeds

I was done for 34 in a30 zone and 46 in 40 so the 10% plus whatever is a myth. We shouldn't look for get outs. I was goingotoo fast I broke the law I paid my fine and took my points. As should anyone else who is caught. Just my 2ps worth. Xx

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By *ndykayMan over a year ago

Falkirk

"Not sure if this has already been mentioned, but IF you do get a fine through the post, reply back asking for a copy of the certificate of calibration for the camera....... Someone I know did this and the county courts never continued the case for the fine! "

And when it arrives write the date and time it arrived on the top as it must arrive within 14 days or else you can get off the ticket in England and Wales

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By *riskynriskyCouple over a year ago

Essex.

If the camera faces you it will not flash.

Most car speedometers read slightly fast, so you were probably doing less than 35mph.

Speed cameras do give an allowance of at least 10%, some much more...

I've not bothered reading most of the posts as there were so many people sharing false info.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Thats the new Digital version , forward facing .

For obvious reasons they dont flash and not only take a picture of your car , but also of the person driving too .

Cameras checking 'car tax' along with Insurance and if the vehicle is SORN is already here. Also many police cars have the cameras now.

Plus the tax disc on the windscreen is about to go, not needed.... "

yeah they're just the usual ANPR cameras they look like CCTV you see them all over the place in cities, they also check in bus lanes

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By *illwill69uMan over a year ago

moston

If by forward facing you mean it was facing towards you and would photograph the front of your car. Then NO you would not see the flash, those sort of cameras use an infrared flash so that it will NOT blind you.

On the bright side when you get your fine through the letterbox you will get a nice photo of you behind the wheel while speeding.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Speeding fines and such are regulated by the road traffic act. Therefore only givin legality with the consent of the governed.

If you get a fine through the door check out the tpuc forum. There are template letters there too help you deal and get off with these yourself in a legal manner.

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By (user no longer on site) OP over a year ago

"Its about time people realised driving a car is being in control of a lethal weapon, why would any sensible person consider driving faster than the legal speed limits?

Driving above the speed limit is dangerous, stupid and criminal.

As for the clever clogs, suggesting ways to avoid being fined, how pathetic, get a life, keep to the law and be safe."
. Of course your such a perfect example in society i bet you have never done anything wrong or got caught speeding. Hop of ya high horse don't want you breaking anything just befor Xmas.

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By (user no longer on site) OP over a year ago

"Too much confusion with terms and not enough info.

Which way was it facing? By forward facing do you mean facing forwards from your perspective, i.e. the way you were travelling, or facing towards you?

What colour was the box.

Was it on your left or right.

Gatsos face away from you and get you from behind - they flash. They will be on your left as you pass them, or are mounted on gantries.

Truvelos face towards you and work on Infra red - no flash. They can be either side.

Spex are average speed cameras, facing towards you, no flash. They use ANPR to calculate your average speed between two points.

Speedos generally over read, and almost never under read, but it's not a certainty.

The 10% plus 2 guideline, is just that, a guideline, there's no compulsion for forces to use it. In theory you could be done for 1/2 mph over the limit."
. I was driving towards it and it was the opposite side of the road a static yellow and grey box. Oh well nothing I can do if I got caught I pay and get points such is life.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Its about time people realised driving a car is being in control of a lethal weapon, why would any sensible person consider driving faster than the legal speed limits?

Driving above the speed limit is dangerous, stupid and criminal.

As for the clever clogs, suggesting ways to avoid being fined, how pathetic, get a life, keep to the law and be safe.. Of course your such a perfect example in society i bet you have never done anything wrong or got caught speeding. Hop of ya high horse don't want you breaking anything just befor Xmas. "

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"We should think ourselves lucky in the UK as we are told where the cameras are and fines not not to heavy.

I got caught in OZ in the middle of nowhere by a cop in a car driving towards me and the fine was _$1000 au"

Please tell me that you didn't pay it!!!

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By *ezebelWoman over a year ago

North of The Wall - youll need your vest

"We should think ourselves lucky in the UK as we are told where the cameras are and fines not not to heavy.

I got caught in OZ in the middle of nowhere by a cop in a car driving towards me and the fine was _$1000 au"

Snap. But as they chased me back to the UK via the rental company - and sent me a colour pic of me committing the said offence - I thought they deserved payment for their tenacity if nothing else.

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By *ezebelWoman over a year ago

North of The Wall - youll need your vest

"We should think ourselves lucky in the UK as we are told where the cameras are and fines not not to heavy.

I got caught in OZ in the middle of nowhere by a cop in a car driving towards me and the fine was _$1000 au

Please tell me that you didn't pay it!!!"

I checked before I paid mine - apparently it stays on your records as an outstanding offence if you dont, and it can cause problems next time you apply for a visa on entry.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Its about time people realised driving a car is being in control of a lethal weapon, why would any sensible person consider driving faster than the legal speed limits?

Driving above the speed limit is dangerous, stupid and criminal.

I respect life far too much to speed.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"If by forward facing you mean it was facing towards you and would photograph the front of your car. Then NO you would not see the flash, those sort of cameras use an infrared flash so that it will NOT blind you.

On the bright side when you get your fine through the letterbox you will get a nice photo of you behind the wheel while speeding.

ALSO YOU MAY BE OFFERED AN ALTERNATTIVE TO 3 POINTS AND A FINE, IE, ATTEND A SPEED AWARENESS CLASS, SO YOU KEEP A CLEAN LICENSE.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Got hit three time's on the way back from Leith to home 5mths ago as said before film is not in half of them...

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"We should think ourselves lucky in the UK as we are told where the cameras are and fines not not to heavy.

I got caught in OZ in the middle of nowhere by a cop in a car driving towards me and the fine was _$1000 au

Please tell me that you didn't pay it!!!

I checked before I paid mine - apparently it stays on your records as an outstanding offence if you dont, and it can cause problems next time you apply for a visa on entry."

I know for a fact that that isn't true;

A few years ago I did a mercy dash to Sydney from London to visit a friend in hospital, - i breezed through immigration & was all but spared the rubber gloves treatment at customs - all the time expecting the unpaid A$850 ticket to be thrown at me............ I laughed to myself whilst leaving the terminal!!!

Don't even think about paying it!!!

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"More than half of them don't even have film in,

and that's off a traffic cop."

It baffles me that in this day and age, they rely on film and are not digital !

I wonder if there is a logical reason.

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By *ezebelWoman over a year ago

North of The Wall - youll need your vest

I checked before I paid mine - apparently it stays on your records as an outstanding offence if you dont, and it can cause problems next time you apply for a visa on entry.

I know for a fact that that isn't true;

Don't even think about paying it!!! "

Nah it was 7 years ago. Ive got over it

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

I checked before I paid mine - apparently it stays on your records as an outstanding offence if you dont, and it can cause problems next time you apply for a visa on entry.

I know for a fact that that isn't true;

Don't even think about paying it!!!

Nah it was 7 years ago. Ive got over it

I was just working that episode out in my head & .............it was 7 years later, lolz

The fact is, they're in the business of making money so, chasing up or even storing the information of an unpaid fine from a bloody tourist (said in a broad oz brogue), costs money!!!

It's a police state, that's for sure.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"We should think ourselves lucky in the UK as we are told where the cameras are and fines not not to heavy.

I got caught in OZ in the middle of nowhere by a cop in a car driving towards me and the fine was _$1000 au

Please tell me that you didn't pay it!!!"

Nope paid it that day, was not going to risk getting stopped on the way home as we were flying on Xmas eve

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By *ittle_brat_evie!!Woman over a year ago

evesham

"Its about time people realised driving a car is being in control of a lethal weapon, why would any sensible person consider driving faster than the legal speed limits?

Driving above the speed limit is dangerous, stupid and criminal.

To be fair I agree with the last bit of go's post. People try to find ways of getting out of things they know they have done. I have had various speeding fines and 2 years got offered a speed awareness course. Always paid because I knew I had been speeding. Now a day's I try to be good and keep to speed limits. It does amuse me when I catch up to the cars that whizz past me, you really don't save that Mich time.

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By *ezebelWoman over a year ago

North of The Wall - youll need your vest

Nah it was 7 years ago. Ive got over it

I was just working that episode out in my head .............it was 7 years later, lolz

The fact is, they're in the business of making money so, chasing up or even storing the information of an unpaid fine from a bloody tourist (said in a broad oz brogue), costs money!!!

It's a police state, that's for sure.

In all fairness it was a very flattering pic that they sent me - wind-tousled hair, shades on, had a great tan and a strapless top on so in the pic it looks as though I could be nekkid.

If Id been here then I would have put the pic on my profile

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"it does amuse me when I catch up to the cars that whizz past me, you really don't save that Mich time. "

some times it's not about the time it;s about the fun.

stil lsome of the best fun is had under the speed limit o na semi busy motorway. stupid and dangerous yes, but fun as fuck

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Its about time people realised driving a car is being in control of a lethal weapon, why would any sensible person consider driving faster than the legal speed limits?

Driving above the speed limit is dangerous, stupid and criminal.

As for the clever clogs, suggesting ways to avoid being fined, how pathetic, get a life, keep to the law and be safe."

Baaaaa baaaaaaaaaaa baaaaaaa baaaa .........alternatively, you could grow a pair & drive withing your limitations rather than go by the letter of the law.

I wonder how they cope on that catastrophic, carnage-strewn Autobahn?

Tut tut tut!

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"The law for car speedometers in the UK

Just google accuracy of the speedometer, take your pick which site you want to read....."
this is true, no car manufacturer wants a claim for being fined for an inaccurate speedo so they set them so they read slightly high compared to actual speed.and I knew someone would argue with me, not you buy the way, but this a forum I suppose. Just quoting what a friend told me and he calibrates speed cameras for the local police force/local authority, as it's a legal requirement for them to operate them. And he said that there is quite generous allowances on unmanned cameras and it's up to the officers descretion for manned cameras. So less of the bitchy planet tidy please, only quoting what I have been told

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By *ittle_brat_evie!!Woman over a year ago

evesham

"Its about time people realised driving a car is being in control of a lethal weapon, why would any sensible person consider driving faster than the legal speed limits?

Driving above the speed limit is dangerous, stupid and criminal.

As for the clever clogs, suggesting ways to avoid being fined, how pathetic, get a life, keep to the law and be safe.

Baaaaa baaaaaaaaaaa baaaaaaa baaaa .........alternatively, you could grow a pair & drive withing your limitations rather than go by the letter of the law.

I wonder how they cope on that catastrophic, carnage-strewn Autobahn?

Tut tut tut!

we dont have autobahns here though so thats that argument out the window. Over here we have speed limits and if you get caught breaking them you should cough up.

You could be Micheal fucking Schumacher but if you get caught doing 35mph in a 30mph zone you are still going to get fined.

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By *riskynriskyCouple over a year ago

Essex.

If it was on the opposite side of the road you are safe.... It's only a problem if it's your side of the road or in the central reservation.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Its about time people realised driving a car is being in control of a lethal weapon, why would any sensible person consider driving faster than the legal speed limits?

Driving above the speed limit is dangerous, stupid and criminal.

As for the clever clogs, suggesting ways to avoid being fined, how pathetic, get a life, keep to the law and be safe.

Baaaaa baaaaaaaaaaa baaaaaaa baaaa .........alternatively, you could grow a pair & drive withing your limitations rather than go by the letter of the law.

I wonder how they cope on that catastrophic, carnage-strewn Autobahn?

Tut tut tut!

we dont have autobahns here though so thats that argument out the window. Over here we have speed limits and if you get caught breaking them you should cough up.

You could be Micheal fucking Schumacher but if you

get caught doing 35mph in a 30mph zone you are

still going to get fined."

But the Autobahn proves that speed limits are not necessarily safer -but they do create revenue!!

Like I said, drive within your limitations & the roads will be safer- simples!!

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By *riskynriskyCouple over a year ago

Essex.

Speed limits were introduced when the fuel crisis was on added to the fact that people like Jaguar where using the newly opened motor way to speed test their cars.

When the limits were introduced the cars tyres, breaks and steering were less capable than they are today and the cars were being tested to their limits...

The problem is that you can never compensate for an idiot behind a wheel... and no speed limit will stop that idiot....

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By (user no longer on site) OP over a year ago

This is quite funny!! I asked one simple question for advice yet some have chosen to call me an idiot, others assume I'm trying to get out of it haha. If I got caught ile pay it's simple and I hardly think being 6/7 miles over the limit at 02.00am with no other cars around is me being an idiot lol possibly if I was doing 100 then yes agreed. Some of you do gooders need to get a life as I'm sure at one time or another you may have exceeded the limit on the roads, for example overtaking on motorways. Or are you those typical Sunday drivers that stay 5 -10 miles under the limit to piss everyone off!! Hahaha

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Totally agree - & that idiot could quite easily be driving at the speed limit or driving way too slow- equally as dangerous!!

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By *ittle_brat_evie!!Woman over a year ago

evesham

"This is quite funny!! I asked one simple question for advice yet some have chosen to call me an idiot, others assume I'm trying to get out of it haha. If I got caught ile pay it's simple and I hardly think being 6/7 miles over the limit at 02.00am with no other cars around is me being an idiot lol possibly if I was doing 100 then yes agreed. Some of you do gooders need to get a life as I'm sure at one time or another you may have exceeded the limit on the roads, for example overtaking on motorways. Or are you those typical Sunday drivers that stay 5 -10 miles under the limit to piss everyone off!! Hahaha "

for me personally, my comments weren't aimed at you. you raised a topic and it evolved from people advising you to people discussing speeding/speed cameras in a general sense.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Speed limits were introduced when the fuel crisis was on added to the fact that people like Jaguar where using the newly opened motor way to speed test their cars.

When the limits were introduced the cars tyres, breaks and steering were less capable than they are today and the cars were being tested to their limits...

The problem is that you can never compensate for an idiot behind a wheel... and no speed limit will stop that idiot...."

I got caught doing 40 in a 30 because I thought it was 30. I did a speed awareness course to avoid the license points and relearned the useful bits out of the highway code. A large factor in the stopping distance and therefore speed limit is the reaction time, this hasn't improved with better brakes etc. A do still speed occasionally but I'm a lot more careful around pedestrian areas where the hazards to pedestrians are clear for everyone to see.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

This

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By *riskynriskyCouple over a year ago

Essex.

I'm sorry if you thought I was insulting you. It wasn't meant that way...

What I was trying to say is no matter what the speed limits are set at there will always be idiots on the road... Idiots are capable of causing death or injury at 10mph or 110mph.

I personally think that 85mph on a motor way at 2am in dry conditions isn't dangerous if the driver is competent... Yet I know drivers that are dangerous pottering round town...

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

I got done for doing 32 in 30 zone. I fought it all way to court magistrates threw out the case was unhappy they let it come so far. Motorist 1 speed cameras nil. Do not get me wrong i should have been under 30.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Live the dream, man!!!

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"If it's any consolation, you will know within 14 days.

speedometers will always say you are going faster than you really are, hence the 10% +2mph, 30 = 35 true speed= around 40 on the speedo....fined.

I know it doesn't help with the worry, but you will kniw in less than 14 days."

Accualy most speedo's are set 3mph faster, so she would only be traveling 32mph, police allow 3mph deviation! She's safe!

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"I'm blonde so do forgive me!! Been out tonight and driving home I came across a forward facing speed camera I think I was doing 35 as thought it was a 40 zone!!. Just past the camera I saw a 30 sign :-/. So my question do they flash at all??? So you know if you got caught I saw a green light in the bit where the camera was so does this mean I got caught?? "

It depends what sort. The very new ones don't flash as they are forward facing and its classed as dangerous they have 2 poles up one with an infra red light on it. The only way you can tell is wait a couple of weeks.

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By *uby0000Woman over a year ago

hertfordshire

"Thanks everyone guess I will have to wait!! Fingers crossed I didn't get caught as that makes it an expensive meet hahahaha "

my fb was driving back from Birmingham and was in such a hurry to get more time with me he got done for speeding

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By *randmrsminxyCouple over a year ago

Gloucester

forward facing cameras do not flash , but they still work at night much the same a average speed cameras do, the truvello system works on infa red and if you were doing 35 as you say you were doing then thats over the alleged 10% margin ( this does not apply to mobile cameras they only do 3% margin )

if your in a 2/5 mph margin then most probably get the option to do the driver awaerness cousre with fine and no points . over 40 and its points for sure . sorry

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

It's incredible - all this for 5 MPH over the speed limit; next they'll introduce fined for farting without due care & attention!!

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"It's incredible - next they'll introduce fined for farting without due care & attention!!"

Quite right too, if rimming is involved...

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Depends upon they type of camera. If it was a Gatso it would flash and take the image from behind but a Truvelo doesn't and it works in a forward facing direction so it can take a photo of the driver as his vehicle crosses sensor strips in the road close to the camera.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Its about time people realised driving a car is being in control of a lethal weapon, why would any sensible person consider driving faster than the legal speed limits?

Driving above the speed limit is dangerous, stupid and criminal.

As for the clever clogs, suggesting ways to avoid being fined, how pathetic, get a life, keep to the law and be safe.

Baaaaa baaaaaaaaaaa baaaaaaa baaaa .........alternatively, you could grow a pair & drive withing your limitations rather than go by the letter of the law.

I wonder how they cope on that catastrophic, carnage-strewn Autobahn?

Tut tut tut!

we dont have autobahns here though so thats that argument out the window. Over here we have speed limits and if you get caught breaking them you should cough up.

You could be Micheal fucking Schumacher but if you

get caught doing 35mph in a 30mph zone you are

still going to get fined.

But the Autobahn proves that speed limits are not necessarily safer -but they do create revenue!!

Like I said, drive within your limitations & the roads will be safer- simples!!"

Countries like Germany have one of the poorest road safety records. Britain has one of the best safety records.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Britain has? Was that in The Sun?

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

You are not an idiot.You are human. If we were robots, there would be no need for speed cameras or speed limits. Millions of people have been caught by cameras. A lot of them are very good and courteous drivers. I consider myself a reasonably good and responsible driver, but I have fallen foul of the dreaded speed camera.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Britain has? Was that in The Sun?

Check the figures. It is pure fiction to suggest that because Germany has these super fast highways, they are safer. Its a nonsense. If you want lawless driving, visit and drive on Indian roads. No speed cameras.Great fun.

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By *thwalescplCouple over a year ago

brecon

Having just been done for speeding and gone on a speed awareness course, I can tell you that the Police dont have some mythical formula for deciding when you are speeding!

The Law states that in a 30 mph zone, the speed limit IS 30 mph!

They used to cutr you some slack when Speedos were run off a cable of a gear on the gearbox, due to the cable and gear wearing and being inaccurate.

Modern cars dont have a problem keeping score more accurately.

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By *randmrsminxyCouple over a year ago

Gloucester

Having just been done for speeding and gone on a speed awareness course, I can tell you that the Police dont have some mythical formula for deciding when you are speeding!

The Law states that in a 30 mph zone, the speed limit IS 30 mph!

They used to cutr you some slack when Speedos were run off a cable of a gear on the gearbox, due to the cable and gear wearing and being inaccurate.

Modern cars dont have a problem keeping score more accurately.

if you have a sat nav , please drive with it on then see just how far of the mark your speedo is , even tyre wear can alter your speedo reading

the higher the speed the less accurate you are and thats whay all police cars have camera systems to monitor your speed , in the old days thay had a separate speedo that was calibrated much the same as hand held speed cameras have to be calibrated still .

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Britain has? Was that in The Sun?

Yes, I've been to & seen India's roads & you ain't seen nothing!!

.......if you had, you'd have mentioned Vietnam!!!

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Britain has? Was that in The Sun?

Yes, I've been to & seen India's roads & you ain't seen nothing!!

.......if you had, you'd have mentioned Vietnam!!!"

Yeah that's rite guvner.I reed the sun,when I ain't up a chimney or talkin to Mary Poppins

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Don't forget to put down your brolly Mary globetrotting Poppins!

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Don't forget to put down your brolly Mary globetrotting Poppins!

I don't read the Sun. Far too intellectual. You don't have to travel the world or read newspapers to be informed.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

You do have to to broaden your mind, otherwise you find that people become 'yes' people & never question their respective governments laws (just read this thread).

Besides, weren't you the one who mentioned India? Maybe I'm mistaken?

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Having read about half the posts in this thread the only accurate thing I can say is that no one has a clue about cameras , speed , true speed , 30+ 2 + 10% or any other combinations. That's not true , that's not entirely accurate is all I keep reading. It's all guesswork at best.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"You do have to to broaden your mind, otherwise you find that people become 'yes' people & never question their respective governments laws (just read this thread).

Besides, weren't you the one who mentioned India? Maybe I'm mistaken?

You don't have to travel to the moon to know it is nothing but rock and dust, or would you dispute that ? Sorry we can't all be as clever and informed as you obviously are.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Its about time people realised driving a car is being in control of a lethal weapon, why would any sensible person consider driving faster than the legal speed limits?

Driving above the speed limit is dangerous, stupid and criminal.

As for the clever clogs, suggesting ways to avoid being fined, how pathetic, get a life, keep to the law and be safe.

Baaaaa baaaaaaaaaaa baaaaaaa baaaa .........alternatively, you could grow a pair & drive withing your limitations rather than go by the letter of the law.

I wonder how they cope on that catastrophic, carnage-strewn Autobahn?

Tut tut tut!

And how does one go about defining their own skill levels ? If we were all competent enough to decide our own limitations and act responsibly, there would be no need for any laws or law enforcement. The speed limits and laws of this land are far from perfect but they are far better and safer than many, and I haven't had to have travelled the world to know that.

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By *ightkitty4uWoman over a year ago

Epsom

I got pulled over by a speed trap last mth the officer, a young chap, informed me I was doing 36 in a 30, I stood there shocked slapped my hands on both cheeks and said "OMG I could of killed someone" in a sarcastic tone.

I then immediately saw his face wasn't impressed with my sarcasm, Some how I blurted out, I'm so sorry I've just found out my uncle has died and I'm a bit dazed, He then asked if I was ok where I'd been where I was going if I was ok to drive and let me go! Poor policeman didn't know how to deal with a lady with the I'm about to cry look on their face

To this day I have no idea how I got away with that...... And my uncle did died, just a mth earlier....

As for speed cameras, you should get a letter within two weeks....

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By *thwalescplCouple over a year ago

brecon

"I got pulled over by a speed trap last mth the officer, a young chap, informed me I was doing 36 in a 30, I stood there shocked slapped my hands on both cheeks and said "OMG I could of killed someone" in a sarcastic tone.

To this day I have no idea how I got away with that...... And my uncle did died, just a mth earlier....

As for speed cameras, you should get a letter within two weeks.... "

At 32 miles an hour, by the time you reach the point at which a car would have stopped if braking from 30 mph... you will still be doing 11 miles an hour!!!

Sure, thats not very fast, but get someone to drive in to you at 11 miles an hour and see how you feel... at 36 mph you would still be doing about 20 mph... fast enought to kill a small child.

Maybe all drivers should be made to sit through a speed awareness course every three years.... I know my driving habits have changed, I dont want to live with the memory of the thud as I run into a body because I couldnt stop in time.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"I don't know if this applied in this country (feel free to let me know), but initially they were supposedly only targeting excessive speeding but, over time it was revealed that it was actually the top percentage (say 10%) that were receiving the fines; whom evidently weren't necessarily excessively speeding.

Just another money grabbing tax - in other words!!!"

excessive speed kills people. Frankly I don't care about stupid drivers complaining about being caught driving faster than the speed limit, I care about

The pedestrians who are injured and killed by such idiots.

Also, taxes are non discretionary, you have no choice wether to pay. attraction of speeding fines are entirely your own choice, if you don't want to pay the fine then obey the law and don't break the speed limit.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"You do have to to broaden your mind, otherwise you find that people become 'yes' people & never question their respective governments laws (just read this thread).

Besides, weren't you the one who mentioned India? Maybe I'm mistaken?

You don't have to travel to the moon to know it is nothing but rock and dust, or would you dispute that ? Sorry we can't all be as clever and informed as you obviously are."

A simple soul......

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By *riskynriskyCouple over a year ago

Essex.

At 32 miles an hour, by the time you reach the point at which a car would have stopped if braking from 30 mph... you will still be doing 11 miles an hour!!!

Sure, thats not very fast, but get someone to drive in to you at 11 miles an hour and see how you feel... at 36 mph you would still be doing about 20 mph... fast enought to kill a small child.

I understand the point you are make but wonder where you're getting your facts from?

How can anyone state that as fact. My old Land Rover on mud tyres is not going to stop in the same distance as a Ford Focus.The Focus is not going to stop in the same distance as a new 911... Also that is academic as a 911 driven by someone with slow rdeactions or not paying attention is not going to stop quicker than a bus...

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

I think the adjustabilty of the rear-vision mirror should be limited to rear vision only - not for vanity!!

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Just another money grabbing tax - in other words!!!

excessive speed kills people. Frankly I don't care about stupid drivers complaining about being caught driving faster than the speed limit, I care about

The pedestrians who are injured and killed by such idiots.

Errrrrrrrrrrrm, you just contradicted yourself there; you started off with "excessive speed kills" & ended with not caring about people who brake the speed limit!!! ...........or do you think that - as in the op - 5 MPH over the speed limit is excessive??

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

33 in a 30 zone even police said it was stupid choice course or fine

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"33 in a 30 zone even police said it was stupid choice course or fine

So, even the police think it's stupid for giving a ticket for 3 MPH over the limit; is that what you were saying?

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

6years ago I got a speeding ticket for 41 mph in a 40 limit from a gasto camera , I did argue it and they dropped it I guess the catamaran must have been too sensitive shortly after they removed the whole thing , it had only been in for two months !

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

*camera not whatever my phone decided to put! And all that money wasted digging up putting supplies to it to tear it down after such a waste

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"6years ago I got a speeding ticket for 41 mph in a 40 limit from a gasto camera , I did argue it and they dropped it I guess the catamaran must have been too sensitive shortly after they removed the whole thing , it had only been in for two months ! "

Catamaran? .......were you speeding in your speedboat? Lolz

Yep, yet another classic case of harvesting by the state!!

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"33 in a 30 zone even police said it was stupid choice course or fine

So, even the police think it's stupid for giving a ticket for 3 MPH over the limit; is that what you were saying? "

One I was talking to later did yes

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

I was just reading that we're the speed camera capital camera capital of Europe (nearly twice as many as Germany) yet on a downward slide on the road safety table!!

..but at the top of the speed camera revenue table, - no doubt about that!

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Just another money grabbing tax - in other words!!!

excessive speed kills people. Frankly I don't care about stupid drivers complaining about being caught driving faster than the speed limit, I care about

The pedestrians who are injured and killed by such idiots.

No I didn't contradict myself, I made an additional point.

Yes, travelling above the speed limit is excessive. Most highways are designed and maintained with speed in mind, with minimum sight lines at bends and timings for tragic signals dependent upon expected speeds regulated by the legal limits (also the speed is set by the local authority, not the police, who merely regulate it). The information is garnered by the transport research laboratory, a world renowned organisation, and set out in the design manual for roads and bridges, issued by the department for transport as a statutory instrument. while it's true that engineering performance changes with time physics and physiology do not. If you exceed the speed limit for any given stretch of road you risk not having the time to react properly, if a Tyre blows for example, or if a child runs our from between parked cars...

Besides, returning to my second point, speed limits are the law. If you break them then you are a criminal and should be prosecuted. In my book you should be prosecuted for dangerous driving, have your licence revoked and be put in prison.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Disagree - safety features on cars (brakes, suspension) have vastly improved yet the speed limit hasn't changed!

Cops will gladly sit on their lazy (but expensive) asses with a speed camera out of the back yet, if your house has been burgled, the sound of feet dragging is deafening!!

Just greedy, revenue- grabbing bastards

who've long since forgotten whom they're supposed to be serving!!

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Disagree - safety features on cars (brakes, suspension) have vastly improved yet the speed limit hasn't changed!

Cops will gladly sit on their lazy (but expensive) asses with a speed camera out of the back yet, if your house has been burgled, the sound of feet dragging is deafening!!

Just greedy, revenue- grabbing bastards

who've long since forgotten whom they're supposed to be serving!! "

It can't be denied that your car does handle a little better, but unless you are an Android you can't see further around a bend, or react any more quickly to the unexpected than you could 10 years ago (in fact age reduces those reaction times)

your point is invalid, because one person commits a crime they are bad, some one else can commit a different crime?

The point remains. Speeding is illegal, if you are caught breaking the law it is your fault.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

I disagree again.

Laws are made to be broken & considering the group of corrupt so & so's who actually make these laws, when it comes to road rules - get away with what you can, is my motto.

I believe im moral law - not the parasitical legal system.

Good on the op - I hope she gets off; but you'd rather see her in jail!!

SAD

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By *ig1gaz1Man over a year ago

bradford

as been caught twice by those front facing cameras some do work and they now use infared to take photos of the driver/car

if your lucky it may not have been working at the time

the things to watch for if you are sent a speeding notice is watch for time date and where the speeding ticket was by rd on many occasions the ticket does not match the rd this is your get out clause

ive used this detail and have gotten out of my speeding tickets as both camera photos was using a different rd that i had been driving upon but you do need to take a day in court and appeal this

my best advice just wait and see if you get a ticket or not as no point worrying until it arrives

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

But if you do receive a ticket, be prepared for a public flogging & a lengthy jail term - as some of our North Korean fabbers above may suggest!!!

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"I was just reading that we're the speed camera capital camera capital of Europe (nearly twice as many as Germany) yet on a downward slide on the road safety table!!

..but at the top of the speed camera revenue table, - no doubt about that!"

And where did you acquire this information ? According to your own statement, you should open your mind and not believe everything you read ?

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"But if you do receive a ticket, be prepared for a public flogging & a lengthy jail term - as some of our North Korean fabbers above may suggest!!! "

Have all North Korean fabbers had family members mown down by idiots driving to fast? Rules are not made to be broken, they are there to protect the majority.

It takes nine months to grow a functioning human being, why does it take so much training and resources to stop them from being such idiots?

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"I was just reading that we're the speed camera capital camera capital of Europe (nearly twice as many as Germany) yet on a downward slide on the road safety table!!

..but at the top of the speed camera revenue table, - no doubt about that!

And where did you acquire this information ? According to your own statement, you should open your mind and not believe everything you read ?"

You're just upset because you had to make a hasty retreat from India!!

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"I was just reading that we're the speed camera capital camera capital of Europe (nearly twice as many as Germany) yet on a downward slide on the road safety table!!

..but at the top of the speed camera revenue table, - no doubt about that!

And where did you acquire this information ? According to your own statement, you should open your mind and not believe everything you read ?

You're just upset because you had to make a hasty retreat from India!!

You are just lost for sensible comments.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Or killed because of Sunday drivers driving too slow or applying make-up or whatever.

People should drive withing their limits - only then will the road toll come down.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"I was just reading that we're the speed camera capital camera capital of Europe (nearly twice as many as Germany) yet on a downward slide on the road safety table!!

..but at the top of the speed camera revenue table, - no doubt about that!

And where did you acquire this information ? According to your own statement, you should open your mind and not believe everything you read ?

You're just upset because you had to make a hasty retreat from India!!

You are just lost for sensible comments.

I'm yet to hear a sensible comment from you!!

This thread is about a woman doing 55mph in a 50!!!

I think it should be reheaded as the do-gooder & bizzy bodies thread, judging by the posts!!!

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"I was just reading that we're the speed camera capital camera capital of Europe (nearly twice as many as Germany) yet on a downward slide on the road safety table!!

..but at the top of the speed camera revenue table, - no doubt about that!

And where did you acquire this information ? According to your own statement, you should open your mind and not believe everything you read ?

You're just upset because you had to make a hasty retreat from India!!

You are just lost for sensible comments.

I'm yet to hear a sensible comment from you!!

This thread is about a woman doing 55mph in a 50!!!

I think it should be reheaded as the do-gooder & bizzy bodies thread, judging by the posts!!!"

35 in a 30 zone and out of interest if laws are meant to be broken what's your oppinion on drink drive law ?

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

if it is the normal ones and you are driving into it, so it would be taking a picture of the front of your car, you're ok since they only work from behind. I went to Sheffield once to pick a car up and they have newer cameras with infrared light i believe which work both ways and can be turned round?

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"I was just reading that we're the speed camera capital camera capital of Europe (nearly twice as many as Germany) yet on a downward slide on the road safety table!!

..but at the top of the speed camera revenue table, - no doubt about that!

And where did you acquire this information ? According to your own statement, you should open your mind and not believe everything you read ?

You're just upset because you had to make a hasty retreat from India!!

You are just lost for sensible comments.

I'm yet to hear a sensible comment from you!!

This thread is about a woman doing 55mph in a 50!!!

I think it should be reheaded as the do-gooder & bizzy bodies thread, judging by the posts!!!"

Oh dear. Actually this thread was simply someone saying the camera had flashed as they approached it on the opposite carriageway. They were asking if they could or should expect a nasty letter from the boys in blue anytime soon. Why you have taken it upon yourself to accuse everyone with an opposite view to yourself as idiots, I can only assume you have issues with authority and the law. I think you threw the first insult at me. Something along the lines of me being an I'll informed Sun reader ? This was your response to me suggesting that our road safety is by no means among the worst. Sounds like you could start an argument in an empty room.

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By *bthreeCouple over a year ago

Yeovil

"as far as i am aware speed cameras only take pics from behind you as if they were to flash in your face that could lead to accidents xxxxxx"

It would also be a breach of your human rights,

Right to a private life, xxxx

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By *bthreeCouple over a year ago

Yeovil

"Disagree - safety features on cars (brakes, suspension) have vastly improved yet the speed limit hasn't changed!

Cops will gladly sit on their lazy (but expensive) asses with a speed camera out of the back yet, if your house has been burgled, the sound of feet dragging is deafening!!

Speed cameras are run by local government( well in somerset at least) so any monies made go into the governments pot, the chief constable of Avon and Somerset has offered to buy the cameras of the council for a quid each, I've offered £2 for my local one lol

Just greedy, revenue- grabbing bastards

who've long since forgotten whom they're supposed to be serving!! "

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By *ittle_brat_evie!!Woman over a year ago

evesham

"as far as i am aware speed cameras only take pics from behind you as if they were to flash in your face that could lead to accidents xxxxxx

It would also be a breach of your human rights,

Right to a private life, xxxx"

Rubbish

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By *bthreeCouple over a year ago

Yeovil

Then why do they all take from the back? Then ones that face forward are ANPR cameras which monitor for non tax, Intel, and stolen vehicles, those fitted at traffic lights (smaller yellow ones ) are for red light runners, x

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By *ittle_brat_evie!!Woman over a year ago

evesham

"Then why do they all take from the back? Then ones that face forward are ANPR cameras which monitor for non tax, Intel, and stolen vehicles, those fitted at traffic lights (smaller yellow ones ) are for red light runners, x"

I don't know why but it isn't to do with human rights and your right to a private life.

The pictures are only ever used to prosecute the driver of the car. They aren't published anywhere like a rogues gallery, they don't produce a list of speeders each month etc. Intact unless you ask for it you don't even get a copy of the pic when they write to you.

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By *ittle_brat_evie!!Woman over a year ago

evesham

ok.....done some research (and i think a guy posted this above too)

Truvelo speed cameras are forward facing and use infra-red flashes so as not to blind. They are not ANPR cameras and are used in various counties.

Looking on the website i was on there are several round here.

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By *bthreeCouple over a year ago

Yeovil

You are first sent a NIP (notice of intended prosecution) in which the registered keeper has to give the name of the driver at the time of the offence, this has to be done within 21 days, you can then either reply with the drivers name if you don't the registered keeper will get the points plus in some cases a charge of failing to supply driver details .x

Last post promise xx

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By (user no longer on site) OP over a year ago

"I was just reading that we're the speed camera capital camera capital of Europe (nearly twice as many as Germany) yet on a downward slide on the road safety table!!

..but at the top of the speed camera revenue table, - no doubt about that!

And where did you acquire this information ? According to your own statement, you should open your mind and not believe everything you read ?

You're just upset because you had to make a hasty retreat from India!!

You are just lost for sensible comments.

I'm yet to hear a sensible comment from you!!

This thread is about a woman doing 55mph in a 50!!!

I think it should be reheaded as the do-gooder & bizzy bodies thread, judging by the posts!!!"
. I was actually doing 35 In a 30 zone. And the camera did NOT flash I asked if I had been caught by a forward facing camera would it flash.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"I was just reading that we're the speed camera capital camera capital of Europe (nearly twice as many as Germany) yet on a downward slide on the road safety table!!

..but at the top of the speed camera revenue table, - no doubt about that!

And where did you acquire this information ? According to your own statement, you should open your mind and not believe everything you read ?

You're just upset because you had to make a hasty retreat from India!!

You are just lost for sensible comments.

I'm yet to hear a sensible comment from you!!

This thread is about a woman doing 55mph in a 50!!!

I think it should be reheaded as the do-gooder & bizzy bodies thread, judging by the posts!!!

35 in a 30 zone and out of interest if laws are meant to be broken what's your oppinion on drink drive law ? "
alcohol is a totally different thread however, some people actually drive better with a few in them, it makes them relax more, but obviously if you're d*unk, your reaction times are significantly lengthened. Personally, I say don't drink & drive, you may spill some!!

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"as far as i am aware speed cameras only take pics from behind you as if they were to flash in your face that could lead to accidents xxxxxx

It would also be a breach of your human rights,

Right to a private life, xxxx"
this loophole was shut years ago, hence the camera signs.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"I was just reading that we're the speed camera capital camera capital of Europe (nearly twice as many as Germany) yet on a downward slide on the road safety table!!

..but at the top of the speed camera revenue table, - no doubt about that!

And where did you acquire this information ? According to your own statement, you should open your mind and not believe everything you read ?

You're just upset because you had to make a hasty retreat from India!!

You are just lost for sensible comments.

I'm yet to hear a sensible comment from you!!

This thread is about a woman doing 55mph in a 50!!!

I think it should be reheaded as the do-gooder & bizzy bodies thread, judging by the posts!!!

Omg - hello pot, my name's kettle!!!

A: if you actually read the OP, you'd have seen that the camera DIDN'T flash

& B: You're the o

ONLY person who mentioned the word idiot!!!

I take it that you don't drive!!!

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"I was just reading that we're the speed camera capital camera capital of Europe (nearly twice as many as Germany) yet on a downward slide on the road safety table!!

..but at the top of the speed camera revenue table, - no doubt about that!

And where did you acquire this information ? According to your own statement, you should open your mind and not believe everything you read ?

You're just upset because you had to make a hasty retreat from India!!

You are just lost for sensible comments.

I'm yet to hear a sensible comment from you!!

This thread is about a woman doing 55mph in a 50!!!

I think it should be reheaded as the do-gooder & bizzy bodies thread, judging by the posts!!!

35 in a 30 zone and out of interest if laws are meant to be broken what's your oppinion on drink drive law ? alcohol is a totally different thread however, some people actually drive better with a few in them, it makes them relax more, but obviously if you're d*unk, your reaction times are significantly lengthened. Personally, I say don't drink & drive, you may spill some!!

Speechless now

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Heh heh heh

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Heh heh heh

Very very strange

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

I guess, you could drink out of a tube - to save spillage - but no, alcohol & driving have been known not to go very well together!!

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"I guess, you could drink out of a tube - to save spillage - but no, alcohol & driving have been known not to go very well together!!

So only certain laws are meant to be broken then

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"I guess, you could drink out of a tube - to save spillage - but no, alcohol & driving have been known not to go very well together!!

So only certain laws are meant to be broken then "

Absolutely!! Don't tell me, you've never broken the law, correct?

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"I guess, you could drink out of a tube - to save spillage - but no, alcohol & driving have been known not to go very well together!!

So only certain laws are meant to be broken then

Absolutely!! Don't tell me, you've never broken the law, correct? "

No broken a few and done my time. Just I learned not to Bragg about breaking the law

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Who's bragging? Everyone breaks the law but some people jump on people's backs hypocritically!

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Who's bragging? Everyone breaks the law but some people jump on people's backs hypocritically! "

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Who's bragging? Everyone breaks the law but some people jump on people's backs hypocritically!

Evening giggler

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Who's bragging? Everyone breaks the law but some people jump on people's backs hypocritically! "

I'd say the statement laws are meant to be broken is a form of bragging. Most people do break the law at some time but take the punishment and not try to find loopholes.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Sorry, I don't wear a

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By *ames blackMan over a year ago

Middlesbrough

I was fined for 33mph in a 30mph zone (about 8yrs ago tho)

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Sorry, I don't wear a

Neither do I. I just don't claim some laws are meant to be broken though

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"I was fined for 33mph in a 30mph zone (about 8yrs ago tho)"

Geez, don't say that here, dude, there'll be a lynching mob of do-gooders after you!!

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Sorry, I don't wear a

Neither do I. I just don't claim some laws are meant to be broken though "
your choice!

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Sorry, I don't wear a

Neither do I. I just don't claim some laws are meant to be broken though your choice!"

Yeah it is must be hard trying to be the outlaw rebel

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By *ames blackMan over a year ago

Middlesbrough

The argument about whether cameras are there to discourage speeding or to make money is easily settled.

Motorists who have passed mobile speed traps have flashed oncoming motorists to warn them This used to be common practice. The oncoming motorist being prewarned slowed down (the supposed reason for the cameras).

But motorists who flashed started getting fined as other patrol cars watched out for this practice. They didn’t want people to slow down, they wanted the money.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"I was just reading that we're the speed camera capital camera capital of Europe (nearly twice as many as Germany) yet on a downward slide on the road safety table!!

..but at the top of the speed camera revenue table, - no doubt about that!

And where did you acquire this information ? According to your own statement, you should open your mind and not believe everything you read ?

You're just upset because you had to make a hasty retreat from India!!

You are just lost for sensible comments.

I'm yet to hear a sensible comment from you!!

This thread is about a woman doing 55mph in a 50!!!

I think it should be reheaded as the do-gooder & bizzy bodies thread, judging by the posts!!!

Omg - hello pot, my name's kettle!!!

A: if you actually read the OP, you'd have seen that the camera DIDN'T flash

& B: You're the o

ONLY person who mentioned the word idiot!!!

I take it that you don't drive!!!"

No I don't drive for a living anymore. I have done an above average amount of miles in my lifetime. I have also been caught by speed cameras on three occasions. I don't wear it as a badge of honour like some. I took the points and the fine on two occasions and on the third occasion I opted for the speed awareness course. I was only angry with myself and my lack of concentration, not with the laws that are laid down. I don't like all our laws and as I have already said, some of the traffic laws and punishments need re thinking. The punishments for driving with no insurance has certainly been relaxed over the years, which in itself is criminal.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

I don't drive for a living anymore, either; the greedy government/police & insurance companies just want all of the cream - I closed the company in disgust.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"I don't drive for a living anymore, either; the greedy government/police & insurance companies just want all of the cream - I closed the company in disgust."

So rather than pay what was due you close a company? Did you employ others and how did they feel about your stand ?

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

I don't drive for a living anymore, either; the greedy government/police & insurance companies just want all of the cream - I closed the company in disgust.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"I don't drive for a living anymore, either; the greedy government/police & insurance companies just want all of the cream - I closed the company in disgust."

Driving wasn't my job, but a large part of it. I do still drive and can't complain about the cost. My insurance is dirt cheap these days and I no longer do enough miles to run up a large fuel bill.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"I don't drive for a living anymore, either; the greedy government/police & insurance companies just want all of the cream - I closed the company in disgust."

Driving wasn't my job, but a large part of it. I do still drive and can't complain about the cost. My insurance is dirt cheap these days and I no longer do enough miles to run up a large fuel bill.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"I don't drive for a living anymore, either; the greedy government/police & insurance companies just want all of the cream - I closed the company in disgust."

Driving wasn't my job, but a large part of it. I do still drive and can't complain about the cost. My insurance is dirt cheap these days and I no longer do enough miles to run up a large fuel bill.

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By *illwill69uMan over a year ago

moston

" The punishments for driving with no insurance has certainly been relaxed over the years, which in itself is criminal."

The fact is that if you drive without insurance your vehicle will be seized and unless you produce valid insurance to the police within a given time your vehicle is crushed (and you have to pay over £100 a day storage plus the recovery fee). This has only been the case for the last few years.

Then on top of that you will be prosecuted and when convicted fined and have points placed on your licence which will cause your insurance to become even more expensive!

Not quite a relaxation in the law or punishment dont you think?

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