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Shocked. Appalled. But grateful!
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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Just finished wrapping presents at the hotel.
Popped down to the bar (admittedly it's Chav/squaddie central) for a drink.
Get to the bar and one of the many barmaids asks me what I want. I point to the Arab guy next to me and say he was first. She gives him 'a look' and takes his order.
He then tells me he's been there half an hour waiting to buy a drink, been ignored by staff, shoved sideways by groups of pissed up customers and insists on getting mine. I refuse . He insists. It's Xmas he says. I accept and tell him if I find myself next to him again it's my shout. Unlikely as there's several hundred people here.
Plymouth. I'm truly fucking shocked!  |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Haha - d*unk texts about wanting to be iron man and taking on squaddies has made my night 
D*unk - but seriously pissed off! "
Aww, Just think "what would Tony Stark say?"
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'They say that the best weapon is the one you never have to fire. I respectfully disagree. I prefer the weapon you only have to fire once. That's how Dad did it, that's how America does it, and it's worked out pretty well so far'
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By *icketysplitsWoman
over a year ago
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I'm not surprised but I am always shocked when it happens. I see it more often than I would like to and I experience it on occasion too. (Not just because I am short and they can't see me.)
To what does the grateful in the title refer?
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"What's the grateful part? The free drink? "
Don't think it was about a free drink - its the fact that the guy was grateful to him for noticing him when no-one else did and he wanted to show his appreciation by getting him a drink |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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"What's the grateful part? The free drink? "
Yep. But just been back to the bar and bought him and his wife one.
Funny thing is - he says he's gotten used to it.
Especially as he outranks most of them! |
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By *icketysplitsWoman
over a year ago
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"What's the grateful part? The free drink?
Yep. But just been back to the bar and bought him and his wife one.
Funny thing is - he says he's gotten used to it.
Especially as he outranks most of them! "
The getting used to it becomes the norm because to do anything else, like challenge and make ANY fuss however polite turns things to make us the bad guys.
When people say racism doesn't exist any more they just need to open their eyes and see how people are treated. |
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By *ugby 123Couple
over a year ago
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"What's the grateful part? The free drink?
Yep. But just been back to the bar and bought him and his wife one.
Funny thing is - he says he's gotten used to it.
Especially as he outranks most of them! "
That is really upsetting if people are being treated like this. |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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"What's the grateful part? The free drink?
Yep. But just been back to the bar and bought him and his wife one.
Funny thing is - he says he's gotten used to it.
Especially as he outranks most of them!
That is really upsetting if people are being treated like this."
Yep!
But apparently it's the norm round here. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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so you tarnish a whole city based on the words of one man in a busy bar?
ok so i agree its not right that he had to wait, but if he never stood up and made it obvious he was waiting in a busy bar could he just have been mistaken for a guy proping up the bar? |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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"so you tarnish a whole city based on the words of one man in a busy bar?
ok so i agree its not right that he had to wait, but if he never stood up and made it obvious he was waiting in a busy bar could he just have been mistaken for a guy proping up the bar?"
Stood up? The guy was wafting a fifty!!
And as the barmaid had stood in front of the guy pouring pints and then ignored him and came to me - no. I'm not tarnishing a city - possibly a bad choice of words - but certainly the busiest bar in said city.
But as he told me - he's used to it.
Doesn't make it right though . |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"so you tarnish a whole city based on the words of one man in a busy bar?
ok so i agree its not right that he had to wait, but if he never stood up and made it obvious he was waiting in a busy bar could he just have been mistaken for a guy proping up the bar?
Stood up? The guy was wafting a fifty!!
And as the barmaid had stood in front of the guy pouring pints and then ignored him and came to me - no. I'm not tarnishing a city - possibly a bad choice of words - but certainly the busiest bar in said city.
But as he told me - he's used to it.
Doesn't make it right though ."
ok then of course its not right. i wasnt sure (as i obviously wasnt there) if he was mearly standing there or putting an effort in. i know when it comes to busy bars im just not good with packs of people and am not forward in making my requests known. |
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In every town in every part of England you get people who tarnish every nation with the same brush.....it's a sad stare of affairs in this life time that we make assumptions that everyone is the same... |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"so you tarnish a whole city based on the words of one man in a busy bar?
ok so i agree its not right that he had to wait, but if he never stood up and made it obvious he was waiting in a busy bar could he just have been mistaken for a guy proping up the bar?
Stood up? The guy was wafting a fifty!!
And as the barmaid had stood in front of the guy pouring pints and then ignored him and came to me - no. I'm not tarnishing a city - possibly a bad choice of words - but certainly the busiest bar in said city.
But as he told me - he's used to it.
Doesn't make it right though .
ok then of course its not right. i wasnt sure (as i obviously wasnt there) if he was mearly standing there or putting an effort in. i know when it comes to busy bars im just not good with packs of people and am not forward in making my requests known. "
He shouldn't have to 'make an effort' though, the staff should have done what they're paid to do - serve ALL customers!  |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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"I hope you also made a complaint to the management regarding the attitude of the staff. "
Evie (or Letsbe!) - not a manager in sight. And I suspect a whinge on behalf of another customer would've gone over their heads.
And having run bars in London myself I'd have hoped a sense of equality would be nationwide! |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"I hope you also made a complaint to the management regarding the attitude of the staff.
Evie (or Letsbe!) - not a manager in sight. And I suspect a whinge on behalf of another customer would've gone over their heads.
And having run bars in London myself I'd have hoped a sense of equality would be nationwide! "
Evie 
Just because it didn't happen to you doesn't mean you can't complain about it. It's obviously had an impact on you and if the chain aren't aware of what their staff are up to they can't rectify any issues.
I would maybe say something when I checked out. |
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By *cott katieCouple
over a year ago
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I'm married to a soldier, a tea-total, non alcohol drinking soldier. Rare I know lol x
Admittedly never been to Plymouth so can't comment on the area but not every soldier is the same as the soldier stood next to them x
I'm proud to say my man is respectful of a person regardless of who they are, if they were there first then they get served first xx
Katie xx |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
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"I hope you also made a complaint to the management regarding the attitude of the staff.
Evie (or Letsbe!) - not a manager in sight. And I suspect a whinge on behalf of another customer would've gone over their heads.
And having run bars in London myself I'd have hoped a sense of equality would be nationwide!
Evie
Just because it didn't happen to you doesn't mean you can't complain about it. It's obviously had an impact on you and if the chain aren't aware of what their staff are up to they can't rectify any issues.
I would maybe say something when I checked out. "
Lloyds bar. Several hundred customers. Several bar staff. Most of which (staff & customers were trashed)
Would've been pointless.
Think i'll simply drink elsewhere from now on! |
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By *yrdwomanWoman
over a year ago
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"I'm married to a soldier, a tea-total, non alcohol drinking soldier. Rare I know lol x
Admittedly never been to Plymouth so can't comment on the area but not every soldier is the same as the soldier stood next to them x
I'm proud to say my man is respectful of a person regardless of who they are, if they were there first then they get served first xx
Katie xx"
In Plymouth its more likely to be sailors than soldiers. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"I hope you also made a complaint to the management regarding the attitude of the staff.
Evie (or Letsbe!) - not a manager in sight. And I suspect a whinge on behalf of another customer would've gone over their heads.
And having run bars in London myself I'd have hoped a sense of equality would be nationwide!
Evie
Just because it didn't happen to you doesn't mean you can't complain about it. It's obviously had an impact on you and if the chain aren't aware of what their staff are up to they can't rectify any issues.
I would maybe say something when I checked out.
Lloyds bar. Several hundred customers. Several bar staff. Most of which (staff & customers were trashed)
Would've been pointless.
Think i'll simply drink elsewhere from now on! "
Chain run then.. its a weatherspoons i think |
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By (user no longer on site)
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I remember standing in the bar of a London pub, in the 70s, trying in vain to get my order in. As a foreigner, I was unaware that females were not supposed to be in that part of the pub.
Finally someone pointed out that there was a separate section for the wimmen.
Well done, Obi. *tips hat*  |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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"Worth a message on their Facebook wall perhaps? Nothing like a bit of bad publicity to get the manager a good rollicking. "
Sadly I'd rather eat my own shit than have a bookface account! |
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By *icketysplitsWoman
over a year ago
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"Worth a message on their Facebook wall perhaps? Nothing like a bit of bad publicity to get the manager a good rollicking.
Sadly I'd rather eat my own shit than have a bookface account! "
Put it on their Twatter account. Or send me the details and I'll Twit it for you. |
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"Just finished wrapping presents at the hotel.
Popped down to the bar (admittedly it's Chav/squaddie central) for a drink.
Get to the bar and one of the many barmaids asks me what I want. I point to the Arab guy next to me and say he was first. She gives him 'a look' and takes his order.
He then tells me he's been there half an hour waiting to buy a drink, been ignored by staff, shoved sideways by groups of pissed up customers and insists on getting mine. I refuse . He insists. It's Xmas he says. I accept and tell him if I find myself next to him again it's my shout. Unlikely as there's several hundred people here.
Plymouth. I'm truly fucking shocked! "
Thank you for this. If I, as a person of colour had posted this I'd have been accused of having chips on my shoulders. You're shocked: doesn't shock me at all! |
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"What's the grateful part? The free drink?
Yep. But just been back to the bar and bought him and his wife one.
Funny thing is - he says he's gotten used to it.
Especially as he outranks most of them!
The getting used to it becomes the norm because to do anything else, like challenge and make ANY fuss however polite turns things to make us the bad guys.
When people say racism doesn't exist any more they just need to open their eyes and see how people are treated."
100% this!
In London it's not too bad, I travel a lot for business and notice the difference. I'm 53 years old, London born, you learn to ignore it as you'll ALWAYS be seen as the bad guy.
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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I think its disgusting too and I work shifts in a pub, none of us would ever dream of not serving someone because of the colour of their skin, disability etc. We are taught to concentrate on who is next in the queue and to serve people that way |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"What's the grateful part? The free drink?
Yep. But just been back to the bar and bought him and his wife one.
Funny thing is - he says he's gotten used to it.
Especially as he outranks most of them!
The getting used to it becomes the norm because to do anything else, like challenge and make ANY fuss however polite turns things to make us the bad guys.
When people say racism doesn't exist any more they just need to open their eyes and see how people are treated."
'Chip on shoulder' is the usual retort. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Worth a message on their Facebook wall perhaps? Nothing like a bit of bad publicity to get the manager a good rollicking.
Sadly I'd rather eat my own shit than have a bookface account! "
Same here. We must be in the minority |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"I'm married to a soldier, a tea-total, non alcohol drinking soldier. Rare I know lol x
Admittedly never been to Plymouth so can't comment on the area but not every soldier is the same as the soldier stood next to them x
I'm proud to say my man is respectful of a person regardless of who they are, if they were there first then they get served first xx
Katie xx
In Plymouth its more likely to be sailors than soldiers."
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Just finished wrapping presents at the hotel.
Popped down to the bar (admittedly it's Chav/squaddie central) for a drink.
Get to the bar and one of the many barmaids asks me what I want. I point to the Arab guy next to me and say he was first. She gives him 'a look' and takes his order.
He then tells me he's been there half an hour waiting to buy a drink, been ignored by staff, shoved sideways by groups of pissed up customers and insists on getting mine. I refuse . He insists. It's Xmas he says. I accept and tell him if I find myself next to him again it's my shout. Unlikely as there's several hundred people here.
Plymouth. I'm truly fucking shocked! "
I share your feelings...  |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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This country is much better than many parts of Europe , London being the most cosmopolitan city in the world. You don't have to travel far from the centre to see ignorance and bigoted attitudes. As good as this country is, there is plenty of room for improvement.
Stories like this blight us all |
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By *igSuki81Man
over a year ago
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Sorry Obi but what's your point?
You say you're shocked but in all honesty i think Lickety hit the nail on the head with her post.
Personally i never go to the bar unless i have a white friend with me. That sounds wrong & daft but without a 'wing man' i find myself in the same position as the random arab guy you refer to. I went to a friends a b'day social in Cannock a while ago and it took so long to get noticed & even then they wouldn't serve me cause they thought i was trying to get the women d*unk on purpose 
Eventually the b'day girl and her hubby came over and ordered the drinks which i paid for. She was not happy and had a kind word with the bar staff for me 
I do understand what you're trying to say bud & in an ideal world such behaviour wouldn't happen but it's not an ideal world & as much as we'd like think such behaviours are of the past they still do occur on a regular basis. People such as myself are just immune to it now |
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