FabSwingers.com > Forums > The Lounge > Ian Watkins sentenced
Ian Watkins sentenced
Jump to: Newest in thread
 |
By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
|
Telegraph saying 35 years. Bit worried that such a long sentence will be grounds for an appeal.
They deserve every second they get in jail and every misfortune that falls upon them |
Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote
or View forums list | |
|
By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
|
Such a waste of talent..
Lostprophets are a good band but since I found out about this I kinda made me feel sick that the money I spent on CD's went towards his sick obssession.. |
Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote
or View forums list | |
|
By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
|
"Such a waste of talent..
Lostprophets are a good band but since I found out about this I kinda made me feel sick that the money I spent on CD's went towards his sick obssession.. "
they were most likely a pedo ring... |
Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote
or View forums list | |
"Such a waste of talent..
Lostprophets are a good band but since I found out about this I kinda made me feel sick that the money I spent on CD's went towards his sick obssession..
they were most likely a pedo ring... "
Who? |
Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote
or View forums list | |
|
By *ev-PMan
over a year ago
Hampshire |
"What a shame that Albert Pierrepoint is no longer available"
He would certainly be busy with all that's been happening over the last couple years. I'm sure others would be keen to do his job ....are they advertising? |
Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote
or View forums list | |
|
By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
|
"Such a waste of talent..
Lostprophets are a good band but since I found out about this I kinda made me feel sick that the money I spent on CD's went towards his sick obssession..
they were most likely a pedo ring...
Who?"
Ian Watkins was the lead singer of a band called Lostprophets..
YouTube them.. good music.. shame really.. |
Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote
or View forums list | |
"Such a waste of talent..
Lostprophets are a good band but since I found out about this I kinda made me feel sick that the money I spent on CD's went towards his sick obssession..
they were most likely a pedo ring...
Who?
Ian Watkins was the lead singer of a band called Lostprophets..
YouTube them.. good music.. shame really.. "
Haha they are from 20 mins down the road from me, I know who the band are.
I was asking who the 'they' was in the sentance 'they were most likely a pedo ring' |
Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote
or View forums list | |
|
By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
|
"Such a waste of talent..
Lostprophets are a good band but since I found out about this I kinda made me feel sick that the money I spent on CD's went towards his sick obssession..
they were most likely a pedo ring...
Who?
Ian Watkins was the lead singer of a band called Lostprophets..
YouTube them.. good music.. shame really..
Haha they are from 20 mins down the road from me, I know who the band are.
I was asking who the 'they' was in the sentance 'they were most likely a pedo ring'"
Hahaha my bad lol! |
Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote
or View forums list | |
|
By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
|
"Such a waste of talent..
Lostprophets are a good band but since I found out about this I kinda made me feel sick that the money I spent on CD's went towards his sick obssession.. "
Personally, I feel that his record company should offer refunds to anyone that returns products that he profited from. |
Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote
or View forums list | |
|
By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
|
"How could any "do gooder" defend these sick bastards if they were given the death penalty ??"
I'm not a dogooder but not believing in the death sentence is in no way defending them. |
Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote
or View forums list | |
|
By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
|
"Such a waste of talent..
Lostprophets are a good band but since I found out about this I kinda made me feel sick that the money I spent on CD's went towards his sick obssession..
they were most likely a pedo ring... "
Why were they? |
Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote
or View forums list | |
"Such a waste of talent..
Lostprophets are a good band but since I found out about this I kinda made me feel sick that the money I spent on CD's went towards his sick obssession..
Personally, I feel that his record company should offer refunds to anyone that returns products that he profited from. "
That means the whole band would suffer when it was just HIM convicted.....the money he earned was not from illegal means so there is really sod all that can be done.....then you would have to prove he used his earnings on the crimes he committed....I'm sure that the band will not exist much longer given all the stuff that has happened |
Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote
or View forums list | |
|
By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
|
"Such a waste of talent..
Lostprophets are a good band but since I found out about this I kinda made me feel sick that the money I spent on CD's went towards his sick obssession..
Personally, I feel that his record company should offer refunds to anyone that returns products that he profited from.
That means the whole band would suffer when it was just HIM convicted.....the money he earned was not from illegal means so there is really sod all that can be done.....then you would have to prove he used his earnings on the crimes he committed....I'm sure that the band will not exist much longer given all the stuff that has happened "
i m sure they knew about his ways any way.. |
Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote
or View forums list | |
"Such a waste of talent..
Lostprophets are a good band but since I found out about this I kinda made me feel sick that the money I spent on CD's went towards his sick obssession..
Personally, I feel that his record company should offer refunds to anyone that returns products that he profited from.
That means the whole band would suffer when it was just HIM convicted.....the money he earned was not from illegal means so there is really sod all that can be done.....then you would have to prove he used his earnings on the crimes he committed....I'm sure that the band will not exist much longer given all the stuff that has happened
i m sure they knew about his ways any way.. "
Who knows I'm sure that police spoke to them however no charges were brought against them so I can assume that police were satisfied that they were not party to the events that occurred... |
Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote
or View forums list | |
|
By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
|
"How could any "do gooder" defend these sick bastards if they were given the death penalty ??
I'm not a dogooder but not believing in the death sentence is in no way defending them."
So we have to look after him for the next 35 years in a high security section of the prison costing the tax payer millions. There will be an appeal and either way he will be out in less than 20 years still the same sick bastard who will more than likely reoffend .
What is the defence regarding the death penalty?? And please don't say that it's not nice !! |
Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote
or View forums list | |
|
By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
|
"Such a waste of talent..
Lostprophets are a good band but since I found out about this I kinda made me feel sick that the money I spent on CD's went towards his sick obssession..
Personally, I feel that his record company should offer refunds to anyone that returns products that he profited from.
That means the whole band would suffer when it was just HIM convicted.....the money he earned was not from illegal means so there is really sod all that can be done.....then you would have to prove he used his earnings on the crimes he committed....I'm sure that the band will not exist much longer given all the stuff that has happened
i m sure they knew about his ways any way.. "
How can you be sure? |
Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote
or View forums list | |
|
By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
|
"Such a waste of talent..
Lostprophets are a good band but since I found out about this I kinda made me feel sick that the money I spent on CD's went towards his sick obssession..
Personally, I feel that his record company should offer refunds to anyone that returns products that he profited from.
That means the whole band would suffer when it was just HIM convicted.....the money he earned was not from illegal means so there is really sod all that can be done.....then you would have to prove he used his earnings on the crimes he committed....I'm sure that the band will not exist much longer given all the stuff that has happened
i m sure they knew about his ways any way.. "
does everyone you know, know what you do behind closed doors, get real, people have lives, to the others guys in the band, it is a job, they gig, record , or whatever, then go back to their own lives |
Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote
or View forums list | |
|
By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
|
Sterilize the women!! As they could have children in the future and being back the death penalty for people like him simple solution. Why should the tax payer keep scum like him in comfort for the next 35 years. All money he gets whilst in prison should be given to a charity to help abused children. Let's hope he gets on the rough end of a inmate and quickly. |
Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote
or View forums list | |
"Such a waste of talent..
Lostprophets are a good band but since I found out about this I kinda made me feel sick that the money I spent on CD's went towards his sick obssession..
Personally, I feel that his record company should offer refunds to anyone that returns products that he profited from.
That means the whole band would suffer when it was just HIM convicted.....the money he earned was not from illegal means so there is really sod all that can be done.....then you would have to prove he used his earnings on the crimes he committed....I'm sure that the band will not exist much longer given all the stuff that has happened "
Sorry they have already disbanded after he was charged with the offences |
Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote
or View forums list | |
|
By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
|
"To be fair I doubt he will last very long in prison..."
I personally think the mother should have equal if not longer sentences then him, as its a Parents duty to protect their children |
Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote
or View forums list | |
"To be fair I doubt he will last very long in prison..."
Unfortunately he will be segregated he will be in solitary confinement because the other inmates will kill him.
shame..but they will find a way hopefully. |
Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote
or View forums list | |
|
By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
|
"To be fair I doubt he will last very long in prison...
Unfortunately he will be segregated he will be in solitary confinement because the other inmates will kill him.
shame..but they will find a way hopefully."
chopping his dick off would be a wise move  |
Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote
or View forums list | |
|
By *ev-PMan
over a year ago
Hampshire |
"To be fair I doubt he will last very long in prison...
Unfortunately he will be segregated he will be in solitary confinement because the other inmates will kill him.
shame..but they will find a way hopefully."
There's no hiding place ..they will be planning it already in the hope it will be their jail he gets sent too. |
Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote
or View forums list | |
|
By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
|
"Such a waste of talent..
Lostprophets are a good band but since I found out about this I kinda made me feel sick that the money I spent on CD's went towards his sick obssession..
Personally, I feel that his record company should offer refunds to anyone that returns products that he profited from.
That means the whole band would suffer when it was just HIM convicted.....the money he earned was not from illegal means so there is really sod all that can be done.....then you would have to prove he used his earnings on the crimes he committed....I'm sure that the band will not exist much longer given all the stuff that has happened
i m sure they knew about his ways any way.. does everyone you know, know what you do behind closed doors, get real, people have lives, to the others guys in the band, it is a job, they gig, record , or whatever, then go back to their own lives"
 |
Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote
or View forums list | |
|
By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
|
"Such a waste of talent..
Lostprophets are a good band but since I found out about this I kinda made me feel sick that the money I spent on CD's went towards his sick obssession..
they were most likely a pedo ring... "
Possibly! I mean, let's look at the facts - they claimed to be musicians but everything they released was absolute drivel. Might be on to something there! |
Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote
or View forums list | |
|
By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
|
He has shown no remorse and sent text messages laughing about his crimes after pleading guilty. I don't advocate the return of the death penalty but surely this type of criminal needs a punishment greater than that which has been admnistered? |
Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote
or View forums list | |
|
By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
|
I very much doubt the other band members knew and certainly wouldn't have been involved as they would been charged. I feel sorry for them as their names will be tarnished, as weve seen evidence of on this thread.
Maybe he will be targeted but that will probably be because he's famous.
 |
Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote
or View forums list | |
|
By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
|
"No custodial sentence is long enough for such a sick crime.
Ian Watkins is a good example why Britain should bring back capital punishment. "
bull shit
we don't need the death penalty.
what about the bloke released after 17 years for a rape he didn't do? Apologies Are no good if you have been killed by the government.
if you like that kind of revenge,not punishment why not move to north Korea.
|
Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote
or View forums list | |
|
By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
|
"Maybe he will be targeted but that will probably be because he's famous.
"
That and I'm sure the nature of his offence will play a role - aren't paedophiles usually targeted inside? |
Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote
or View forums list | |
|
By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
|
"No custodial sentence is long enough for such a sick crime.
Ian Watkins is a good example why Britain should bring back capital punishment.
bull shit
we don't need the death penalty.
what about the bloke released after 17 years for a rape he didn't do? Apologies Are no good if you have been killed by the government.
if you like that kind of revenge,not punishment why not move to north Korea.
"
Agreed. Death penalty's are more about vengeance than justice. |
Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote
or View forums list | |
"To be fair I doubt he will last very long in prison..."
He will have his own issues with himself and he has 20 years to think about what he is in there for....regardless of revenge attacks which are few are far between in prisons now a days I do think that his own issues will kill him rather then at the hands of others
|
Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote
or View forums list | |
|
By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
|
"No custodial sentence is long enough for such a sick crime.
Ian Watkins is a good example why Britain should bring back capital punishment.
bull shit
we don't need the death penalty.
what about the bloke released after 17 years for a rape he didn't do? Apologies Are no good if you have been killed by the government.
if you like that kind of revenge,not punishment why not move to north Korea.
"
. Bull shit!!! How is that revenge??? He took a child's innocence, he raped a year old baby there is no excuse for that it's been proven he did it so does deserve to die. How would you feel if someone did this to your child???? He's a vile man prison is much too good for him he deserves to die. |
Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote
or View forums list | |
|
By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
|
Killing him won't change anything tho, it'll just make the victims families feel a little better in the short-term and satisfy those vying for his blood. I'm not defending the man or his actions, I just don't think killing him will help anyone. |
Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote
or View forums list | |
|
By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
|
"No custodial sentence is long enough for such a sick crime.
Ian Watkins is a good example why Britain should bring back capital punishment.
bull shit
we don't need the death penalty.
what about the bloke released after 17 years for a rape he didn't do? Apologies Are no good if you have been killed by the government.
if you like that kind of revenge,not punishment why not move to north Korea.
"
Certain crimes (Ian Watkins, Huntley, West, moors murderers plus many more) should be put down. Call it bullshit if you want. That is your own opinion.
What YOU call revenge SOME call punishment. Remember we are all entitled to an opinion? Living in a democracy? Yadda Yadda Ya?
As for North Korea... I won't even comment on that as you seem worked up already.
 |
Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote
or View forums list | |
|
By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
|
Nobody in their right mind would defend someone like Watkins but capital punishment is not the answer. The death penalty is barbaric and we live in a civilized society,how difficult is that for some not to understand ?
Jailing paedophiles for life where they can do no harm is the way forward and we should all be campaigning for that,not baying for blood. |
Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote
or View forums list | |
|
By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
|
"Nobody in their right mind would defend someone like Watkins but capital punishment is not the answer. The death penalty is barbaric and we live in a civilized society,how difficult is that for some not to understand ?
Jailing paedophiles for life where they can do no harm is the way forward and we should all be campaigning for that,not baying for blood. "
very well said. |
Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote
or View forums list | |
|
By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
|
Sick and less than they deserve the women are worse than him when you have a child you should protect them no matter what...and to allow what happened to them is the lowest any human could ever go. |
Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote
or View forums list | |
|
By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
|
"Such a waste of talent..
Lostprophets are a good band but since I found out about this I kinda made me feel sick that the money I spent on CD's went towards his sick obssession..
they were most likely a pedo ring...
Possibly! I mean, let's look at the facts - they claimed to be musicians but everything they released was absolute drivel. Might be on to something there! "
I do not want to get drawn into this, but feel it sensible to remind fellow fabbers of three facts concerning other band members ( or equally anyone else on this sceptred Isle) 1) Basic tenant of British justice is innocent until proven guilty. 2)This is a public forum, searchable on Google even if your profile is set not to appear on searches and therefore effectively publishing. 3) For those not familiar with the concept of libel, your time would be better ememployed reading about it than making wild, serious and utterly unsubstantiated accusations of the most inflammatory kind.
Actually a fourth thought. Incitement to violence is also a criminal offence.
Finally let me clear I do not in anyway condone the crimes of the convicted man and am pleased is being done. |
Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote
or View forums list | |
|
By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
|
"To be fair I doubt he will last very long in prison...
I personally think the mother should have equal if not longer sentences then him, as its a Parents duty to protect their children"
|
Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote
or View forums list | |
|
By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
|
"Maybe he will be targeted but that will probably be because he's famous.
That and I'm sure the nature of his offence will play a role - aren't paedophiles usually targeted inside? "
:
if he is on a segregation wing then he will be with other prisons who have committed similar crimes.
With the type of crime committed then Im sure he'll be sent to a Cat A prison. The prisoners in there are not in there for stealing a pint of milk off a doorstep, they will be violent offenders. Attacks against others are quite commonplace and may be started simply as an excuse for violence. And of course Ian Watkins is well known, which will make him stand out.
|
Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote
or View forums list | |
|
By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
|
"Killing him won't change anything tho, it'll just make the victims families feel a little better in the short-term and satisfy those vying for his blood. I'm not defending the man or his actions, I just don't think killing him will help anyone. "
i actually see the death sentence as a cop out, if i had the choice of spending 35 years in prison or having the option to have an injection that would end it all i would take the injection, i also feel if my child was harmed in such a way if the person responsible was killed they would have escaped justice, once your dead you know nothing, how is that a punishment? |
Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote
or View forums list | |
|
By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
|
"Such a waste of talent..
Lostprophets are a good band but since I found out about this I kinda made me feel sick that the money I spent on CD's went towards his sick obssession..
they were most likely a pedo ring...
Possibly! I mean, let's look at the facts - they claimed to be musicians but everything they released was absolute drivel. Might be on to something there!
I do not want to get drawn into this, but feel it sensible to remind fellow fabbers of three facts concerning other band members ( or equally anyone else on this sceptred Isle) 1) Basic tenant of British justice is innocent until proven guilty. 2)This is a public forum, searchable on Google even if your profile is set not to appear on searches and therefore effectively publishing. 3) For those not familiar with the concept of libel, your time would be better ememployed reading about it than making wild, serious and utterly unsubstantiated accusations of the most inflammatory kind.
Actually a fourth thought. Incitement to violence is also a criminal offence.
Finally let me clear I do not in anyway condone the crimes of the convicted man and am pleased is being done."
Don't forget the defence of fair comment which allows exaggerated comments to be made as long as they aren't presented as statements of fact. Besides, I would think MOST people reading such a comment would rightfully disregard it for what it is - satire. I won't suggest you should ask for a sense of humour from Santa because that would be rude.  |
Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote
or View forums list | |
|
By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
|
"Maybe he will be targeted but that will probably be because he's famous.
That and I'm sure the nature of his offence will play a role - aren't paedophiles usually targeted inside? :
if he is on a segregation wing then he will be with other prisons who have committed similar crimes.
With the type of crime committed then Im sure he'll be sent to a Cat A prison. The prisoners in there are not in there for stealing a pint of milk off a doorstep, they will be violent offenders. Attacks against others are quite commonplace and may be started simply as an excuse for violence. And of course Ian Watkins is well known, which will make him stand out.
"
You seem to know quite a bit about the prison system! Is there something you wish to share with us all? |
Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote
or View forums list | |
|
By *UNCHBOXMan
over a year ago
folkestone |
I don't think hanging is going to be brought back anytime soon, so that is a wasted discussion, but certainly id like to see these sort of crimes being given whole life terms. Paedophiles are some of the most manipulative criminals going, and so id not be in any rush to release them. |
Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote
or View forums list | |
|
By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
|
"No custodial sentence is long enough for such a sick crime.
Ian Watkins is a good example why Britain should bring back capital punishment.
bull shit
we don't need the death penalty.
what about the bloke released after 17 years for a rape he didn't do? Apologies Are no good if you have been killed by the government.
if you like that kind of revenge,not punishment why not move to north Korea.
. Bull shit!!! How is that revenge??? He took a child's innocence, he raped a year old baby there is no excuse for that it's been proven he did it so does deserve to die. How would you feel if someone did this to your child???? He's a vile man prison is much too good for him he deserves to die. "
I always feel that many that are in favour of the death sentence must love the idea of public stonings and the like. Where justice is secondary to vengeance and satisfying the needs of a bloodthirsty mob.
And this post, and more specifically the fact you aren't even aware of what he was actually convicted of really does reinforce that belief |
Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote
or View forums list | |
|
By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
|
the death penalty is the best answer to anything that goes wrong..and it satisfies everyones appetites...then again, I think some people will eat anything.Anyone who disagrees must be some left wing liberal pc madarse! |
Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote
or View forums list | |
"Maybe he will be targeted but that will probably be because he's famous.
That and I'm sure the nature of his offence will play a role - aren't paedophiles usually targeted inside? :
if he is on a segregation wing then he will be with other prisons who have committed similar crimes.
With the type of crime committed then Im sure he'll be sent to a Cat A prison. The prisoners in there are not in there for stealing a pint of milk off a doorstep, they will be violent offenders. Attacks against others are quite commonplace and may be started simply as an excuse for violence. And of course Ian Watkins is well known, which will make him stand out.
"
a segregation wing isn't for a type of prisoner, its for prisoners who either need protection for their own safety and have chosen to go of their own accord, prisoners who are identified as risks or who have committed offenses etc while in prison.
Prisons do have wings for vulnerable prisoners of which he will probably be considered as one given the crimes committed and the fact of who he is. |
Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote
or View forums list | |
The things he has done don't bear thinking about and yet to kill him would debase us as a society. Far better to let him rot with his life in ruins.
I still very much hope that he has the most appalling experiences once he's in jail.
I hope even more that we learn how to fight every sick puppy out there fiercely enough to break them. Internet policing needs so much work.
Teach kids to be savvy online. Teach adults to speak up when they suspect wrongdoing. Never ceases to amaze me how starving, battered kids with bruises and damaged spirits aren't spotted in schools and neighbourhoods!
Then the dead kid makes headlines when it's all too late. And I think, did no-one notice anything? Really?
Would you, if you saw an adult laying into their kid in a supermarket, slapping him about, yelling abuse at him, way way over the top, step in? They might swing for you .... Who knows what might kick off! And who cares, because of course you'd step in, before you'd even has time to think about it! Who wouldn't? And why? Because you see a vulnerable human being in very much the wrong hands, and you need it to stop right there.
I hope that monsters are rare and that most people are good. I hope that more lives are saved than lost.
And I hope that someone kicks the ever living shit out of him some day very soon. |
Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote
or View forums list | |
|
By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
|
"How could any "do gooder" defend these sick bastards if they were given the death penalty ??"
I don't agree with the death penalty but I do believe sick bastards like that should suffer in the worst ways possible. Possibly torcher before death |
Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote
or View forums list | |
|
By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
|
"How could any "do gooder" defend these sick bastards if they were given the death penalty ??
I don't agree with the death penalty but I do believe sick bastards like that should suffer in the worst ways possible. Possibly torcher before death "
Tortured even |
Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote
or View forums list | |
|
By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
|
"How could any "do gooder" defend these sick bastards if they were given the death penalty ??
I don't agree with the death penalty but I do believe sick bastards like that should suffer in the worst ways possible. Possibly torcher before death
Tortured even"
Seriously?  You seriously believe torture should play a role in justice? |
Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote
or View forums list | |
|
By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
|
"How could any "do gooder" defend these sick bastards if they were given the death penalty ??
I don't agree with the death penalty but I do believe sick bastards like that should suffer in the worst ways possible. Possibly torcher before death
Tortured even
Seriously? You seriously believe torture should play a role in justice?"
For crime that bad yes death is to easy and so is prison. Why should there poor victims have to of suffer and they get away easy? |
Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote
or View forums list | |
"the death penalty is the best answer to anything that goes wrong..and it satisfies everyones appetites...then again, I think some people will eat anything.Anyone who disagrees must be some left wing liberal pc madarse!"
Yep. That's me: a left wing liberal pc mardarse just cos I believe that violence is never the answer, other just reduces the rest of us to the same level (anyone want to be on the same level as Watkins?).
The death penalty does not reduce crime. It actually makes people like Watkins more likely to kill their victims than leave them alive as hiding a body can be less incriminating than leaving a living potentially talking witness. And in the cases where the wrong person has been convicted it can never be made right.
An intelligent, caring society should never need to resort to violence as a punishment.
Right I'm off to read my guardian now...  |
Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote
or View forums list | |
|
By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
|
"No custodial sentence is long enough for such a sick crime.
Ian Watkins is a good example why Britain should bring back capital punishment.
bull shit
we don't need the death penalty.
what about the bloke released after 17 years for a rape he didn't do? Apologies Are no good if you have been killed by the government.
if you like that kind of revenge,not punishment why not move to north Korea.
. Bull shit!!! How is that revenge??? He took a child's innocence, he raped a year old baby there is no excuse for that it's been proven he did it so does deserve to die. How would you feel if someone did this to your child???? He's a vile man prison is much too good for him he deserves to die.
I always feel that many that are in favour of the death sentence must love the idea of public stonings and the like. Where justice is secondary to vengeance and satisfying the needs of a bloodthirsty mob.
And this post, and more specifically the fact you aren't even aware of what he was actually convicted of really does reinforce that belief"
taking someone's liberty away is no small thing. I know a lot of people see prisons as holiday parks but really... Imagine not being able to have freedom. I think that punishment is fine. And let's not forget there have been many cases where people have been wrongly imprisoned for long periods of time. It's bad enough they have lost that time in their life. How would we feel as a nation if we brought back the death sentence and this happened? |
Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote
or View forums list | |
|
By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
|
"Such a waste of talent..
Lostprophets are a good band but since I found out about this I kinda made me feel sick that the money I spent on CD's went towards his sick obssession..
they were most likely a pedo ring... "
What a ridiculous nasty thing to say. I'm sure the other band members have suffered terribly from this mans wrong doings. I think you need to be careful what you type in the Internet - that is slander. |
Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote
or View forums list | |
|
By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
|
Anyone heard of dai ling ping? He's a YouTube troller, but he put a video on about this and he's spot on in what he says about Ian watkins. Check it out and see what you think |
Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote
or View forums list | |
|
By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
|
"Anyone heard of dai ling ping? He's a YouTube troller, but he put a video on about this and he's spot on in what he says about Ian watkins. Check it out and see what you think "
Reading my earlier comment and then watching that I think maybe that is a better option |
Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote
or View forums list | |
|
By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
|
"How could any "do gooder" defend these sick bastards if they were given the death penalty ??
I don't agree with the death penalty but I do believe sick bastards like that should suffer in the worst ways possible. Possibly torcher before death
Tortured even
Seriously? You seriously believe torture should play a role in justice?
For crime that bad yes death is to easy and so is prison. Why should there poor victims have to of suffer and they get away easy?"
So out of curiosity what do you feel is a suitable form of torture?  |
Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote
or View forums list | |
|
By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
|
"How could any "do gooder" defend these sick bastards if they were given the death penalty ??
I don't agree with the death penalty but I do believe sick bastards like that should suffer in the worst ways possible. Possibly torcher before death
Tortured even
Seriously? You seriously believe torture should play a role in justice?
For crime that bad yes death is to easy and so is prison. Why should there poor victims have to of suffer and they get away easy?
So out of curiosity what do you feel is a suitable form of torture? "
Reading the forums on here sometimes |
Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote
or View forums list | |
|
By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
|
"How could any "do gooder" defend these sick bastards if they were given the death penalty ??
I don't agree with the death penalty but I do believe sick bastards like that should suffer in the worst ways possible. Possibly torcher before death
Tortured even
Seriously? You seriously believe torture should play a role in justice?
For crime that bad yes death is to easy and so is prison. Why should there poor victims have to of suffer and they get away easy?
So out of curiosity what do you feel is a suitable form of torture? "
That I never thought about I just know the death penalty is escape but torture doesn't have to be violent |
Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote
or View forums list | |
|
By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
|
"How could any "do gooder" defend these sick bastards if they were given the death penalty ??
I don't agree with the death penalty but I do believe sick bastards like that should suffer in the worst ways possible. Possibly torcher before death
Tortured even
Seriously? You seriously believe torture should play a role in justice?
For crime that bad yes death is to easy and so is prison. Why should there poor victims have to of suffer and they get away easy?
So out of curiosity what do you feel is a suitable form of torture?
That I never thought about I just know the death penalty is escape but torture doesn't have to be violent "
Perhaps they could run the x factor or bi brother episodes repeatedly that would be paramount to torture |
Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote
or View forums list | |
|
By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
|
"How could any "do gooder" defend these sick bastards if they were given the death penalty ??
I don't agree with the death penalty but I do believe sick bastards like that should suffer in the worst ways possible. Possibly torcher before death
Tortured even
Seriously? You seriously believe torture should play a role in justice?
For crime that bad yes death is to easy and so is prison. Why should there poor victims have to of suffer and they get away easy?
So out of curiosity what do you feel is a suitable form of torture?
That I never thought about I just know the death penalty is escape but torture doesn't have to be violent
Perhaps they could run the x factor or bi brother episodes repeatedly that would be paramount to torture"
|
Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote
or View forums list | |
|
By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
|
"For me the saddest thing is he will likely be out in 20 years but it's his victims who will live with a true life sentence from his crimes  "
He should have to serve it all even tho 35 years is short for crime he's done |
Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote
or View forums list | |
|
By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
|
No human being should be subjected to torture no matter how sick and depraved they are.
Far better to hang or inject them and put them out of their misery. The likes of Watkins should not have the privilege to breathe.
|
Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote
or View forums list | |
"For me the saddest thing is he will likely be out in 20 years but it's his victims who will live with a true life sentence from his crimes
He should have to serve it all even tho 35 years is short for crime he's done "
He didn't get 35 years. He got 29 years custodial sentence plus 6 years on licence and he'll likely serve 2 thirds of his custodial before being paroled. Wrong but sadly a fact |
Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote
or View forums list | |
|
By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
|
"No custodial sentence is long enough for such a sick crime.
Ian Watkins is a good example why Britain should bring back capital punishment. "
There is no place for capital punishment. What this man did is abhorrent as are the acts of the women involved. That said I do not want to see them murdered by the state, that doesn't stop these crimes happening, capital punishment is not a deterrent and as a civilised democratic nation there is no place for it. |
Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote
or View forums list | |
|
By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
|
People will never agree on a correct punishment. I think the best think is that the truth got out before he could do more destruction. What he and them women have done are unforgivable and at least they are getting some form of punishment if we agree on that punishment or not! |
Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote
or View forums list | |
|
By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
|
"How could any "do gooder" defend these sick bastards if they were given the death penalty ??
I don't agree with the death penalty but I do believe sick bastards like that should suffer in the worst ways possible. Possibly torcher before death
Tortured even
Seriously? You seriously believe torture should play a role in justice?
For crime that bad yes death is to easy and so is prison. Why should there poor victims have to of suffer and they get away easy?
So out of curiosity what do you feel is a suitable form of torture?
That I never thought about I just know the death penalty is escape but torture doesn't have to be violent "
Is it wring that I laughed at this? So you advocate torture but cannot say what that would entail?
|
Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote
or View forums list | |
|
By *nnyMan
over a year ago
Glasgow |
"No custodial sentence is long enough for such a sick crime.
Ian Watkins is a good example why Britain should bring back capital punishment.
There is no place for capital punishment. What this man did is abhorrent as are the acts of the women involved. That said I do not want to see them murdered by the state, that doesn't stop these crimes happening, capital punishment is not a deterrent and as a civilised democratic nation there is no place for it."
You only have to read some of the posts (above and elsewhere) to know this is NOT a civilised nation. |
Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote
or View forums list | |
|
By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
|
"How could any "do gooder" defend these sick bastards if they were given the death penalty ??
I don't agree with the death penalty but I do believe sick bastards like that should suffer in the worst ways possible. Possibly torcher before death
Tortured even
Seriously? You seriously believe torture should play a role in justice?
For crime that bad yes death is to easy and so is prison. Why should there poor victims have to of suffer and they get away easy?
So out of curiosity what do you feel is a suitable form of torture?
That I never thought about I just know the death penalty is escape but torture doesn't have to be violent
Is it wring that I laughed at this? So you advocate torture but cannot say what that would entail?
"
It's not my job to say social isolation maybe worst thing for anyone, if we had a say I'm sure he would be serving longer time. People like them who show no remorse will never truly be punished because they can't see what they've done wrong. |
Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote
or View forums list | |
|
By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
|
"No custodial sentence is long enough for such a sick crime.
Ian Watkins is a good example why Britain should bring back capital punishment.
There is no place for capital punishment. What this man did is abhorrent as are the acts of the women involved. That said I do not want to see them murdered by the state, that doesn't stop these crimes happening, capital punishment is not a deterrent and as a civilised democratic nation there is no place for it.
You only have to read some of the posts (above and elsewhere) to know this is NOT a civilised nation."
although how many of the contraversial posters (not necessarily in this thread) would have the bollox to say in the real world what they put on forums I would dispute |
Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote
or View forums list | |
|
By *nnyMan
over a year ago
Glasgow |
"No custodial sentence is long enough for such a sick crime.
Ian Watkins is a good example why Britain should bring back capital punishment.
There is no place for capital punishment. What this man did is abhorrent as are the acts of the women involved. That said I do not want to see them murdered by the state, that doesn't stop these crimes happening, capital punishment is not a deterrent and as a civilised democratic nation there is no place for it.
You only have to read some of the posts (above and elsewhere) to know this is NOT a civilised nation.
although how many of the contraversial posters (not necessarily in this thread) would have the bollox to say in the real world what they put on forums I would dispute "
And fewer still would carry through on their 'leave me alone with him for 5 minutes' nonsense. |
Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote
or View forums list | |
|
By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
|
"I don't think hanging is going to be brought back anytime soon, so that is a wasted discussion, but certainly id like to see these sort of crimes being given whole life terms. Paedophiles are some of the most manipulative criminals going, and so id not be in any rush to release them. "
|
Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote
or View forums list | |
It needs to be ome kind of punishment where the criminal can't do it again but more importantly, it sends a massive detterent out to others to try and get them to stop and think 'Bloody hell, maybe I won't do this then, look whats happened to so and so'.
Thats why hanging in this case wouldn't work.
Lock them up, keep them locked up and I dont give a shit what makes there life hell, just make sure the message gets out so that this never happens again |
Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote
or View forums list | |
|
By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
|
"How could any "do gooder" defend these sick bastards if they were given the death penalty ??
I don't agree with the death penalty but I do believe sick bastards like that should suffer in the worst ways possible. Possibly torcher before death
Tortured even
Seriously? You seriously believe torture should play a role in justice?
For crime that bad yes death is to easy and so is prison. Why should there poor victims have to of suffer and they get away easy?
So out of curiosity what do you feel is a suitable form of torture?
That I never thought about I just know the death penalty is escape but torture doesn't have to be violent "
ok now I have to ask, how do you torture someone non violently?
I have the scene from reservoir dogs in my head where they are slashing the guy up while singing |
Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote
or View forums list | |
|
By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
|
"Such a waste of talent..
Lostprophets are a good band but since I found out about this I kinda made me feel sick that the money I spent on CD's went towards his sick obssession..
Personally, I feel that his record company should offer refunds to anyone that returns products that he profited from.
That means the whole band would suffer when it was just HIM convicted.....the money he earned was not from illegal means so there is really sod all that can be done.....then you would have to prove he used his earnings on the crimes he committed....I'm sure that the band will not exist much longer given all the stuff that has happened
i m sure they knew about his ways any way.. "
I'm sorry but how can you say that? do you know absolutely every detail about the people you work with? how do you know one of them isn't secretly a pedophile? and if they are should everyone presume you knew about it?
in their interviews they are horrified about what he was doing, the same as everybody else |
Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote
or View forums list | |
|
By *aisy100Woman
over a year ago
wakefield |
"
I always feel that many that are in favour of the death sentence must love the idea of public stonings and the like. Where justice is secondary to vengeance and satisfying the needs of a bloodthirsty mob.
And this post, and more specifically the fact you aren't even aware of what he was actually convicted of really does reinforce that belief"
And I think you are way off the mark!!!
Leathal injection is totally different to being stoned to death! Only the end outcome is the same. |
Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote
or View forums list | |
"Its about time this country grew some balls and put a bullet in the brain of people like Ian Watkins and the two mothers involved. "
Oooohhh, imagine being the person who has to press the trigger and live with that forever |
Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote
or View forums list | |
|
By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
|
"
I always feel that many that are in favour of the death sentence must love the idea of public stonings and the like. Where justice is secondary to vengeance and satisfying the needs of a bloodthirsty mob.
And this post, and more specifically the fact you aren't even aware of what he was actually convicted of really does reinforce that belief
And I think you are way off the mark!!!
Leathal injection is totally different to being stoned to death! Only the end outcome is the same."
Yes, thats why we take our pets to the vets to be put to sleep humanely of course.  |
Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote
or View forums list | |
|
By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
|
"Its about time this country grew some balls and put a bullet in the brain of people like Ian Watkins and the two mothers involved.
Oooohhh, imagine being the person who has to press the trigger and live with that forever"
Im sure there are thousands who would happily oblige, but I see your point, some sort of random computery type thing would have to be used, but then, does that mean the pc tech is responsible, the possiblities are endless! It'll never happen with the shower of shite we have in politics at the moment, and that covers all parties! |
Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote
or View forums list | |
|
By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
|
"
I always feel that many that are in favour of the death sentence must love the idea of public stonings and the like. Where justice is secondary to vengeance and satisfying the needs of a bloodthirsty mob.
And this post, and more specifically the fact you aren't even aware of what he was actually convicted of really does reinforce that belief
And I think you are way off the mark!!!
Leathal injection is totally different to being stoned to death! Only the end outcome is the same."
members have mentioned various methods of capital punishment such as stoning, hanging and lethal injection but how about cebereral asphyiaxition, by starving the brain of oxygen the person would fall into a state of happiness as the body craves carbon dioxide
this was studied by Michael portillo in a BBC 2 programme on capital punishment in which he looked into the rationale behind capital punishment and whether it would ever be reinstated not only in the UK but also across Europe. |
Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote
or View forums list | |
"Its about time this country grew some balls and put a bullet in the brain of people like Ian Watkins and the two mothers involved.
Oooohhh, imagine being the person who has to press the trigger and live with that forever
Im sure there are thousands who would happily oblige, but I see your point, some sort of random computery type thing would have to be used, but then, does that mean the pc tech is responsible, the possiblities are endless! It'll never happen with the shower of shite we have in politics at the moment, and that covers all parties!"
Couldnt agree with you more about political bollocks.
I remember all too well joy riders going on Safari to help them see the errors of their ways, was only 15 years or so ago.
I'm not for capital punishment as in the case of lee Rigby the two criminals wanted to be killed, thats why they had an empty pistol with them.
It's sick but I would torture them, even if that means a lifetime of solitary confinement. That is a torture without any violence.
I feel sorry for the familys in crimes like this and lee Rigby's, even the criminals family. |
Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote
or View forums list | |
» Add a new message to this topic
wtf has that got to do with putting a post on this thread ? 