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Currently booked to do his one man show in march and promote his biography
New rules state anyone that has served a sentence of more than four years receives a mandatory ban |
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He didn't really rap in it...just shouted a bit in a threatening manner while canibus took a breather..
The show is meant to be entertaining, and he was a great boxer for a few years, but the law is the law... He's been convicted on multiple occasions including the very serious rape conviction. |
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"Currently booked to do his one man show in march and promote his biography
New rules state anyone that has served a sentence of more than four years receives a mandatory ban"
Sounds like a good rule to me. |
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"The one man show is a broadway show by spike lee"
Well obviously that makes all the difference! 
A literate convicted rapist is still a convicted rapist. Fame, fortune and appearance in carefully selected media do nothing to change that.
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"think I'll get his autobiography. He was a fucking awesome boxer, arguably the best ever!
Not even in the top 5.
Who would your top 5 be?"
Perhaps he coulda been amongst the best ever..just like the prince coulda been a great tooo. For around 2-3 years he was awesome, but ultimately, due to to circumstances, and the choices he made as a result of them...he probably didn't fulfil his promise... Lost to Douglas who was a talented perennial underachiever, and most significantly, lost to Holyfield and lewis... The only real names he faced..though admittedly he was on a steep decline, that's what the record will always show.
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"think I'll get his autobiography. He was a fucking awesome boxer, arguably the best ever!
Not even in the top 5.
Who would your top 5 be?"
Sorry I was a bit hasty. Not even in the top ten.
Too five is
Ali
Larry Holmes
George Foreman
Joe Frazier
Sonny Liston |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"think I'll get his autobiography. He was a fucking awesome boxer, arguably the best ever!
Not even in the top 5.
Who would your top 5 be?
Sorry I was a bit hasty. Not even in the top ten.
Too five is
Ali
Larry Holmes
George Foreman
Joe Frazier
Sonny Liston"
Think we'll disagree on this one (respectively)
Mike Tyson is definitely in the top 5 in my opinion |
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"Currently half way through his autobiography.. Grippin stuff and yes in my oppinion the best pound for pound boxer ever, he was ruthless in the ring! "
Have you not heard of Ali , Frazier & Holmes ? All have better records than Tyson. He was the best at the time but for a very short time. |
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"Currently half way through his autobiography.. Grippin stuff and yes in my oppinion the best pound for pound boxer ever, he was ruthless in the ring!
Have you not heard of Ali , Frazier & Holmes ? All have better records than Tyson. He was the best at the time but for a very short time. "
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"Currently half way through his autobiography.. Grippin stuff and yes in my oppinion the best pound for pound boxer ever, he was ruthless in the ring! "
he bruised one or two women around their ring  |
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"think I'll get his autobiography. He was a fucking awesome boxer, arguably the best ever!
Not even in the top 5.
Who would your top 5 be?
Sorry I was a bit hasty. Not even in the top ten.
Too five is
Ali
Larry Holmes
George Foreman
Joe Frazier
Sonny Liston
Think we'll disagree on this one (respectively)
Mike Tyson is definitely in the top 5 in my opinion "
Who would you put him above ? |
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"Currently half way through his autobiography.. Grippin stuff and yes in my oppinion the best pound for pound boxer ever, he was ruthless in the ring!
Have you not heard of Ali , Frazier & Holmes ? All have better records than Tyson. He was the best at the time but for a very short time. "
If Tyson in his prime vs Ali in his prime got in the ring, I'd put money on Tyson no problem |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"think I'll get his autobiography. He was a fucking awesome boxer, arguably the best ever!
Not even in the top 5.
Who would your top 5 be?
Sorry I was a bit hasty. Not even in the top ten.
Too five is
Ali
Larry Holmes
George Foreman
Joe Frazier
Sonny Liston
Think we'll disagree on this one (respectively)
Mike Tyson is definitely in the top 5 in my opinion
Who would you put him above ?"
My top 5 would be
1. Joe Louis or Sugar Ray Robinson
2. Ali
3. Jack Johnson
4. Mike Tyson
5. Jack Dempsey |
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"Currently half way through his autobiography.. Grippin stuff and yes in my oppinion the best pound for pound boxer ever, he was ruthless in the ring!
Have you not heard of Ali , Frazier & Holmes ? All have better records than Tyson. He was the best at the time but for a very short time.
If Tyson in his prime vs Ali in his prime got in the ring, I'd put money on Tyson no problem"
Blimey. I guess that's the reason why bookmakers are rich. |
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"Currently half way through his autobiography.. Grippin stuff and yes in my oppinion the best pound for pound boxer ever, he was ruthless in the ring!
Have you not heard of Ali , Frazier & Holmes ? All have better records than Tyson. He was the best at the time but for a very short time.
If Tyson in his prime vs Ali in his prime got in the ring, I'd put money on Tyson no problem
Blimey. I guess that's the reason why bookmakers are rich. "
Tyson didn't have as many fights or fight for as long as Ali, but he knocked more out. Tyson fought people of all shapes and sizes and won in the first couple of rounds |
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"Currently half way through his autobiography.. Grippin stuff and yes in my oppinion the best pound for pound boxer ever, he was ruthless in the ring!
Have you not heard of Ali , Frazier & Holmes ? All have better records than Tyson. He was the best at the time but for a very short time.
If Tyson in his prime vs Ali in his prime got in the ring, I'd put money on Tyson no problem"
Ali before induction would have beaten any boxer/fighter put before him and mike tyson would have struggled to lay a glove on Ali.
tyson can never be in the top 5 all time fighters as he didn't have longevity.
he was a bully who when he fought James buster Douglas got out fought out bullied because took the centre of the ring. |
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"think I'll get his autobiography. He was a fucking awesome boxer, arguably the best ever!
Not even in the top 5.
Who would your top 5 be?
Sorry I was a bit hasty. Not even in the top ten.
Too five is
Ali
Larry Holmes
George Foreman
Joe Frazier
Sonny Liston
Think we'll disagree on this one (respectively)
Mike Tyson is definitely in the top 5 in my opinion
Who would you put him above ?
My top 5 would be
1. Joe Louis or Sugar Ray Robinson
2. Ali
3. Jack Johnson
4. Mike Tyson
5. Jack Dempsey "
you could add the below
sugar ray Leonard
Marvin hagler
azumah nelson
manny pacoiuo
Floyd mayweather
the list is endless and i agree mike tyson would not be in a top 20 |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Currently half way through his autobiography.. Grippin stuff and yes in my oppinion the best pound for pound boxer ever, he was ruthless in the ring!
Have you not heard of Ali , Frazier & Holmes ? All have better records than Tyson. He was the best at the time but for a very short time.
If Tyson in his prime vs Ali in his prime got in the ring, I'd put money on Tyson no problem
Blimey. I guess that's the reason why bookmakers are rich.
Tyson didn't have as many fights or fight for as long as Ali, but he knocked more out. Tyson fought people of all shapes and sizes and won in the first couple of rounds"
But doesn't the longevity of a career add to the greatness. Getting to the top us hard , staying there is harder. |
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"Currently half way through his autobiography.. Grippin stuff and yes in my oppinion the best pound for pound boxer ever, he was ruthless in the ring!
Have you not heard of Ali , Frazier & Holmes ? All have better records than Tyson. He was the best at the time but for a very short time.
If Tyson in his prime vs Ali in his prime got in the ring, I'd put money on Tyson no problem
Blimey. I guess that's the reason why bookmakers are rich.
Tyson didn't have as many fights or fight for as long as Ali, but he knocked more out. Tyson fought people of all shapes and sizes and won in the first couple of rounds
But doesn't the longevity of a career add to the greatness. Getting to the top us hard , staying there is harder. "
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"think I'll get his autobiography. He was a fucking awesome boxer, arguably the best ever!
Not even in the top 5.
Who would your top 5 be?
Sorry I was a bit hasty. Not even in the top ten.
Too five is
Ali
Larry Holmes
George Foreman
Joe Frazier
Sonny Liston
Think we'll disagree on this one (respectively)
Mike Tyson is definitely in the top 5 in my opinion
Who would you put him above ?
My top 5 would be
1. Joe Louis or Sugar Ray Robinson
2. Ali
3. Jack Johnson
4. Mike Tyson
5. Jack Dempsey
you could add the below
sugar ray Leonard
Marvin hagler
azumah nelson
manny pacoiuo
Floyd mayweather
the list is endless and i agree mike tyson would not be in a top 20 "
I agree, I was just talking about heavyweights but if we were to include all divisions Tyson wouldn't make the top twenty. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"I'm happy with my opinion, this is one of the things you could argue about for the rest of your life"
The thing with Tyson I think is he carries a certain amount of celebrity status and this sometimes clouds people's judgments. He is also more current than the other greats so is fresh in the memory.
The old argument of would Ali have beaten Tyson will never be answered and if course it will come down to a matter of opinion. But out everyone's records on the table and I'm afraid Tyson just doesn't cut it.
Add into that the boxing experts opinions and Tyson hardly gets a mention. |
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"The one man show is a broadway show by spike lee
Well obviously that makes all the difference!
A literate convicted rapist is still a convicted rapist. Fame, fortune and appearance in carefully selected media do nothing to change that.
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Although Tyson was awesome in his prime, there are a few discrepancies on his early record. He won a dubious decision against Mitch Green and ducked out of a rematch. He never beat Lennox Lewis either as an amateur or pro. Early on in their careers they sparred together and Tyson never got the best of him.
He would never have lived with true greats such as Ali or Jack Johnson in their prime. In fact he might have struggled to make the top half of a top ten of early 70's heavyweights.
Taking into consideration other weights and fighters like Henry Armstrong, Carlos Palomino, Monzon, Robinson, Leonard and Duran would push him right down the list.
He was however, exciting at his peak |
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"think I'll get his autobiography. He was a fucking awesome boxer, arguably the best ever!
Not even in the top 5.
Who would your top 5 be?
Sorry I was a bit hasty. Not even in the top ten.
Too five is
Ali
Larry Holmes
George Foreman
Joe Frazier
Sonny Liston"
Larry Holmes & Joe Frazier, not for me, Tyson wound have destroyed (and did destroy Holmes) them both in his peak |
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"Currently booked to do his one man show in march and promote his biography
New rules state anyone that has served a sentence of more than four years receives a mandatory ban"
That law is not worth the paper it's written on do you think if Mr Mandela has still alive he would be refused entry to the country?
A young Mike Tyson is the most brutal thing I have seen in a ring. Some of the names mentioned are great fighters but you must remember boxing is all about era's.
Tyson is in the top 5 no doubt about it.
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"think I'll get his autobiography. He was a fucking awesome boxer, arguably the best ever!
Not even in the top 5.
Who would your top 5 be?
Sorry I was a bit hasty. Not even in the top ten.
Too five is
Ali
Larry Holmes
George Foreman
Joe Frazier
Sonny Liston
Larry Holmes & Joe Frazier, not for me, Tyson wound have destroyed (and did destroy Holmes) them both in his peak "
Holmes was way past it..
Tyson lost to Douglas during his peak.
He went life and death with Donovan Ruddock, twice: a fighter Lewis finished in 4 rounds? Tyson was phenomenon for a while, but his best wins are against fighters on the decline, and his most notable losses are against the best guys in his generation: guys he needed to have beaten to have any genuine credibility as an all time great. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"think I'll get his autobiography. He was a fucking awesome boxer, arguably the best ever!
Not even in the top 5.
Who would your top 5 be?
Sorry I was a bit hasty. Not even in the top ten.
Too five is
Ali
Larry Holmes
George Foreman
Joe Frazier
Sonny Liston
Larry Holmes & Joe Frazier, not for me, Tyson wound have destroyed (and did destroy Holmes) them both in his peak "
Holmes was 38 and had been retired over 2 years when he fought tyson for the £2.8 million payday and tyson was 22 years old. |
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"think I'll get his autobiography. He was a fucking awesome boxer, arguably the best ever!
Not even in the top 5.
Who would your top 5 be?
Sorry I was a bit hasty. Not even in the top ten.
Too five is
Ali
Larry Holmes
George Foreman
Joe Frazier
Sonny Liston
Larry Holmes & Joe Frazier, not for me, Tyson wound have destroyed (and did destroy Holmes) them both in his peak
Holmes was way past it..
Tyson lost to Douglas during his peak.
He went life and death with Donovan Ruddock, twice: a fighter Lewis finished in 4 rounds? Tyson was phenomenon for a while, but his best wins are against fighters on the decline, and his most notable losses are against the best guys in his generation: guys he needed to have beaten to have any genuine credibility as an all time great. "
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"Currently booked to do his one man show in march and promote his biography
New rules state anyone that has served a sentence of more than four years receives a mandatory ban
That law is not worth the paper it's written on do you think if Mr Mandela has still alive he would be refused entry to the country?
A young Mike Tyson is the most brutal thing I have seen in a ring. Some of the names mentioned are great fighters but you must remember boxing is all about era's.
Tyson is in the top 5 no doubt about it.
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im sorry i don't agree go through his record and then look at other great boxers/fighters and there is no comparison he looked good in his early career fighting journeymen and then fought old pros like pinklon Thomas trevor berbick and Larry Holmes looking for one big payday against the latest cash cow however as soon as he fought someone who was hungry he got a pasting and when he fought evander holyfield he restored to biting etc.
he is never a great because he has no longevity to his career he was there for a short time. |
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The unfortunate thing with Tyson is we never saw him at his best .
Even with what I saw of him in his prime he would make my top 5 .
I don't believe the rape happened .
Fame and money destroyed him - drugs etc ....
Before the drug abuse and rape charges , he would have destroyed anyone , and did . |
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"The unfortunate thing with Tyson is we never saw him at his best .
Even with what I saw of him in his prime he would make my top 5 .
I don't believe the rape happened .
Fame and money destroyed him - drugs etc ....
Before the drug abuse and rape charges , he would have destroyed anyone , and did ."
Including his wife. His violence to her is well documented.
Why is it that people think that it is acceptable to doubt what has been proved in court just because the perpetrator has a sporting skill or a singing or acting talent?  |
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"think I'll get his autobiography. He was a fucking awesome boxer, arguably the best ever!
Not even in the top 5.
Who would your top 5 be?"
Top five heavyweights that would beat him that already didnt as a good boxer did him everytime is based on all at peak are muhamnad ali. Larry holmes. The eldest of the klitchcos. Joe louis and george foreman. |
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He looked like a monster, this is true.. But records aren't based on speculation.. He's actual record is of someone who either failed to fulfil his potential, or he did fulfil it. Either way, whatever the reasons, he lost against the best fighters he fought. |
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He is a violent man who seems to believe that the normal rules do not apply to him, as demonstrated by his action towards Evander Holyfield.
Would Ali or Frasier or Foreman have behaved like that?
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"The unfortunate thing with Tyson is we never saw him at his best .
Even with what I saw of him in his prime he would make my top 5 .
I don't believe the rape happened .
Fame and money destroyed him - drugs etc ....
Before the drug abuse and rape charges , he would have destroyed anyone , and did .
Including his wife. His violence to her is well documented.
Why is it that people think that it is acceptable to doubt what has been proved in court just because the perpetrator has a sporting skill or a singing or acting talent? "
I think it's people's obsession with celebrity that makes them believe anything. |
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Jigsawman
who was cus d amato to tyson ? and what about teddy atlas aswell ? I was referring to tyson should of stayed with his original camp, cus died a lot later than the dates you mentioned, tyson became youngest ever heavyweight champion in 1987 give or take, tyson wasnt the brightest kid on the block, this is where don king took advantage of this and manipulated tyson with mega bucks that tysons original camp couldnt match kings offer, but what tyson didnt know was don king was stealing tysons money by putting it into don kings son in laws bank account, tyson threatened to kill don king and successfully sued don king for millions and millions aswell as a few other boxers that sued king for ripping them off, don king soon disapeared from the boxing scene after death threats were made to him |
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"The unfortunate thing with Tyson is we never saw him at his best .
Even with what I saw of him in his prime he would make my top 5 .
I don't believe the rape happened .
Fame and money destroyed him - drugs etc ....
Before the drug abuse and rape charges , he would have destroyed anyone , and did ."
i think we did see the best of tyson he reached his plateau and when fought anyone of any ilk and not just a journeyman he got beat.
the rape did happen because he was found guilty by a jury of his peers.
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"The unfortunate thing with Tyson is we never saw him at his best .
Even with what I saw of him in his prime he would make my top 5 .
I don't believe the rape happened .
Fame and money destroyed him - drugs etc ....
Before the drug abuse and rape charges , he would have destroyed anyone , and did .
i think we did see the best of tyson he reached his plateau and when fought anyone of any ilk and not just a journeyman he got beat.
the rape did happen because he was found guilty by a jury of his peers.
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How dare you use the facts of him being a rapist it shatters the minds of the deluded on here that think they know better than jury at the trial |
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"The unfortunate thing with Tyson is we never saw him at his best .
Even with what I saw of him in his prime he would make my top 5 .
I don't believe the rape happened .
Fame and money destroyed him - drugs etc ....
Before the drug abuse and rape charges , he would have destroyed anyone , and did .
i think we did see the best of tyson he reached his plateau and when fought anyone of any ilk and not just a journeyman he got beat.
the rape did happen because he was found guilty by a jury of his peers.
How dare you use the facts of him being a rapist it shatters the minds of the deluded on here that think they know better than jury at the trial "
i must apologise please forgive me. |
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Mr mahogany man, what would you do if you had a thieving wife such as roben givens and her mum who stole your millions and shagging a list celebrities behind your back and humiliate you on live t.v ? She deserved what she got !
Jigsawman, tyson was found guilty of the racist white american peers who didnt like tysons success, tyson needed proffesional help to curb his anger on people who duped him ! tyson has to make fictional stories to help his book sales like many celebrities etc, take sir alex ferguson for example, its all about money in the end ! |
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"Mr mahogany man, what would you do if you had a thieving wife such as roben givens and her mum who stole your millions and shagging a list celebrities behind your back and humiliate you on live t.v ? She deserved what she got !
Jigsawman, tyson was found guilty of the racist white american peers who didnt like tysons success, tyson needed proffesional help to curb his anger on people who duped him ! tyson has to make fictional stories to help his book sales like many celebrities etc, take sir alex ferguson for example, its all about money in the end !"
Mr Lovejoy, was Mr Tyson a paragon of virtue himself during his time with Givens? Perhaps you can give me further examples of when it is acceptable for a strong, heavily muscled man to beat up a woman?
Like I said, listen to the interviews, they're on YouTube. |
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Another point from me,
what was an inteligent beauty contestant such as desired washington who didnt know mike tyson personally doing going to his hotel room at 3 or 4 in the morning for ? A cup of coffee and a signed autograph etc ? ? Erm erm ! She called rape, got him done with help from others, got her millions in compo and did a runner never to be seen or heard of again ! Its the classic works of proffesional con merchants ! |
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"Mr mahogany man, what would you do if you had a thieving wife such as roben givens and her mum who stole your millions and shagging a list celebrities behind your back and humiliate you on live t.v ? She deserved what she got !
Jigsawman, tyson was found guilty of the racist white american peers who didnt like tysons success, tyson needed proffesional help to curb his anger on people who duped him ! tyson has to make fictional stories to help his book sales like many celebrities etc, take sir alex ferguson for example, its all about money in the end !
Mr Lovejoy, was Mr Tyson a paragon of virtue himself during his time with Givens? Perhaps you can give me further examples of when it is acceptable for a strong, heavily muscled man to beat up a woman?
Like I said, listen to the interviews, they're on YouTube. "
Robin Givens married Tyson and took him for everything he's got the women is an actress. He never stood a chance against her in court.
Not saying he is an angel but she is worse than Don King in my eyes. |
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"Another point from me,
what was an inteligent beauty contestant such as desired washington who didnt know mike tyson personally doing going to his hotel room at 3 or 4 in the morning for ? A cup of coffee and a signed autograph etc ? ? Erm erm ! She called rape, got him done with help from others, got her millions in compo and did a runner never to be seen or heard of again ! Its the classic works of proffesional con merchants !"
So if you could see through it why couldn't a jury and a judge ? |
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"Another point from me,
what was an inteligent beauty contestant such as desired washington who didnt know mike tyson personally doing going to his hotel room at 3 or 4 in the morning for ? A cup of coffee and a signed autograph etc ? ? Erm erm ! She called rape, got him done with help from others, got her millions in compo and did a runner never to be seen or heard of again ! Its the classic works of proffesional con merchants !
So if you could see through it why couldn't a jury and a judge ?"
are all jurys and judges correct in their sentencing these days ? Look at the poor innocent people that have been convicted over the years and have their convictions overturned for murder and rapes etc ? Good job hanging is outlawed eh ? ? |
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"Mr mahogany man, what would you do if you had a thieving wife such as roben givens and her mum who stole your millions and shagging a list celebrities behind your back and humiliate you on live t.v ? She deserved what she got !
Jigsawman, tyson was found guilty of the racist white american peers who didnt like tysons success, tyson needed proffesional help to curb his anger on people who duped him ! tyson has to make fictional stories to help his book sales like many celebrities etc, take sir alex ferguson for example, its all about money in the end !"
sorry it must be a wind up i think you may be trolling.
on his jury was the following
8 men (2 black)
4 women (1 black)
sorry it doesn't mention Hispanics etc
however every member was polled by the defense counsel after guilty verdict was first given and every member of the jury including the black members voted guilty.
to bring race into this is a joke.
he was convicted therefore as it stands he is guilty. |
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"Another point from me,
what was an inteligent beauty contestant such as desired washington who didnt know mike tyson personally doing going to his hotel room at 3 or 4 in the morning for ? A cup of coffee and a signed autograph etc ? ? Erm erm ! She called rape, got him done with help from others, got her millions in compo and did a runner never to be seen or heard of again ! Its the classic works of proffesional con merchants !
So if you could see through it why couldn't a jury and a judge ?
are all jurys and judges correct in their sentencing these days ? Look at the poor innocent people that have been convicted over the years and have their convictions overturned for murder and rapes etc ? Good job hanging is outlawed eh ? ?"
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"Another point from me,
what was an inteligent beauty contestant such as desired washington who didnt know mike tyson personally doing going to his hotel room at 3 or 4 in the morning for ? A cup of coffee and a signed autograph etc ? ? Erm erm ! She called rape, got him done with help from others, got her millions in compo and did a runner never to be seen or heard of again ! Its the classic works of proffesional con merchants !
So if you could see through it why couldn't a jury and a judge ?
are all jurys and judges correct in their sentencing these days ? Look at the poor innocent people that have been convicted over the years and have their convictions overturned for murder and rapes etc ? Good job hanging is outlawed eh ? ?
I think you have finally run out of straws. "
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"Another point from me,
what was an inteligent beauty contestant such as desired washington who didnt know mike tyson personally doing going to his hotel room at 3 or 4 in the morning for ? A cup of coffee and a signed autograph etc ? ? Erm erm ! She called rape, got him done with help from others, got her millions in compo and did a runner never to be seen or heard of again ! Its the classic works of proffesional con merchants !
So if you could see through it why couldn't a jury and a judge ?
are all jurys and judges correct in their sentencing these days ? Look at the poor innocent people that have been convicted over the years and have their convictions overturned for murder and rapes etc ? Good job hanging is outlawed eh ? ?
I think you have finally run out of straws.
Agreed. In fact, all that is left to say is... Mrs Polk has a scrumptious bottom "
i agree it is a magnificent bum |
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I just don't see how you can compare different sportsmen from different eras - it just cannot be done!!
PS: & someone put George Foreman up there; I can only assume that they like their steaks grilled! |
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"Another point from me,
what was an inteligent beauty contestant such as desired washington who didnt know mike tyson personally doing going to his hotel room at 3 or 4 in the morning for ? A cup of coffee and a signed autograph etc ? ? Erm erm ! She called rape, got him done with help from others, got her millions in compo and did a runner never to be seen or heard of again ! Its the classic works of proffesional con merchants !
So if you could see through it why couldn't a jury and a judge ?
are all jurys and judges correct in their sentencing these days ? Look at the poor innocent people that have been convicted over the years and have their convictions overturned for murder and rapes etc ? Good job hanging is outlawed eh ? ?
I think you have finally run out of straws. "
and all jurys and judges are 100% correct these and past times ? Yeah right ! You should research into miscarriges of justices ! Belive me, its a right eye opener ! I feel sorry for the families whos sons and daughters who committed suicide over being wrongly convicted over something they never did. But got convicted and had their sentences quashed years after their deaths ! Dont tell me about bent jurys, judges, QCs, lawyers and politicians etc ! They are still rife to this day ! |
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"Another point from me,
what was an inteligent beauty contestant such as desired washington who didnt know mike tyson personally doing going to his hotel room at 3 or 4 in the morning for ? A cup of coffee and a signed autograph etc ? ? Erm erm ! She called rape, got him done with help from others, got her millions in compo and did a runner never to be seen or heard of again ! Its the classic works of proffesional con merchants !
So if you could see through it why couldn't a jury and a judge ?
are all jurys and judges correct in their sentencing these days ? Look at the poor innocent people that have been convicted over the years and have their convictions overturned for murder and rapes etc ? Good job hanging is outlawed eh ? ?
I think you have finally run out of straws.
and all jurys and judges are 100% correct these and past times ? Yeah right ! You should research into miscarriges of justices ! Belive me, its a right eye opener ! I feel sorry for the families whos sons and daughters who committed suicide over being wrongly convicted over something they never did. But got convicted and had their sentences quashed years after their deaths ! Dont tell me about bent jurys, judges, QCs, lawyers and politicians etc ! They are still rife to this day !"
so its the entire judicial system now that's at fault and not racism however you fail to mention that tyson may be at fault.
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"I just don't see how you can compare different sportsmen from different eras - it just cannot be done!!
PS: & someone put George Foreman up there; I can only assume that they like their steaks grilled! "
the George Formby Grill |
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Their will always be miscarriages of justice. It's a shame but what vam you do let pepole off just to be on the safe side. And if Tyson was such a great fighter why did he have yo bite another mans ear off. The reason he looked so good back then was because ther were no other good boxers about. Bruno should of beat him but he was to nice to knock him out. |
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"i liked him great boxer
but as for the raping that he got jail for ,myself i dont think he did do it
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Jigsawman, im not denying tyson has been at fault over some of his actions,
lets put it this way, no disrespect to mike tyson, he was abit mentally unstable, look at his upbringing, he had a very tough and harsh upbringing in that part of new york, and survived ! Give him credit for that eh, not many could survive there, he was taken under cus d'amatos control, the rest is history ! Good and bad the same as most people on this earth ! There is no such thing as the perfect person ! |
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"Their will always be miscarriages of justice. It's a shame but what vam you do let pepole off just to be on the safe side. And if Tyson was such a great fighter why did he have yo bite another mans ear off. The reason he looked so good back then was because ther were no other good boxers about. Bruno should of beat him but he was to nice to knock him out. "
You weren't being serious, were you?
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"i liked him great boxer
but as for the raping that he got jail for ,myself i dont think he did do it
So what piece of evidence was you privy to that the jury wasn't ?"
And your evidence came from where then ? Same as everyone else, the media ! |
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"i liked him great boxer
but as for the raping that he got jail for ,myself i dont think he did do it
So what piece of evidence was you privy to that the jury wasn't ?
And your evidence came from where then ? Same as everyone else, the media !"
I didn't have any evidence. I wasn't prosecuting. |
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"everyone has got ther own views on it, uv got yours , i have mine
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That's fair enough but what I'm trying to understand is how people can say I don't think he done it when the evidence suggested he did. A judge and jury thought he was guilty after hearing all the evidence and summing up. But people think he didn't do it because of what they read in the papers.
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"everyone has got ther own views on it, uv got yours , i have mine
That's fair enough but what I'm trying to understand is how people can say I don't think he done it when the evidence suggested he did. A judge and jury thought he was guilty after hearing all the evidence and summing up. But people think he didn't do it because of what they read in the papers.
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People get distracted and see what they want to see... Like presently I'd like to see mrs polks delectable derrière  |
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"Jigsawman, im not denying tyson has been at fault over some of his actions,
lets put it this way, no disrespect to mike tyson, he was abit mentally unstable, look at his upbringing, he had a very tough and harsh upbringing in that part of new york, and survived ! Give him credit for that eh, not many could survive there, he was taken under cus d'amatos control, the rest is history ! Good and bad the same as most people on this earth ! There is no such thing as the perfect person !"
his upbringing does not differ much from many boxers who have come from nothing and through boxing have become law abiding citizens.
i agree he would have been better off with bill cayton Jim Jacobs cus d'amato and Kevin rooney instead of don king however he made that decision and his path was set and he made bad decision after bad decision but none was worse than calling desree Washington that night and inviting her out for a drink.
the fact she accepted his invitation does not mean he had the right to have sex with her and at the end of the day no means no and he was convicted.
if he felt there was such a massive injustice why does he not pursue it to the enth degree i know i would if i was wrongly convicted.
by the way after he was found guilty she won a civil case against him for damages which was settled out of court. |
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"everyone has got ther own views on it, uv got yours , i have mine
That's fair enough but what I'm trying to understand is how people can say I don't think he done it when the evidence suggested he did. A judge and jury thought he was guilty after hearing all the evidence and summing up. But people think he didn't do it because of what they read in the papers.
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People get distracted and see what they want to see... Like presently I'd like to see mrs polks delectable derrière "
If this had been just an ordinary black guy from the projects people would be asking for the key to be thrown away. But because he has celebrity status somehow it was the woman's way of getting something out if him. |
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He did his time, Ive met him in LasVegas , beleive me if you think he is scary on television you should get p close and personal with him, he is a very intimidsting figure , but beleive it or not comes across as inteligent and dare i say it charming (yes he has a dark side and you can see it in those eyes)have met several ex world champs (inc British) and can honestly say he was the least arrogant  |
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" Im no racist and have many friends from different races, that spikey haired racist "black cunt" who is don king..."
Really?
Shame on your so-called ethnic minority friends if they allow you to talk like this in front of them.
Can't believe no one else brought this up.
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Tyson is a convicted rapist - being a celebrity former champion boxer with a book and tour to promote is completely irrelevant. Why should he be treated differently from any other foreign national claiming it was a set up? |
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" Im no racist and have many friends from different races, that spikey haired racist "black cunt" who is don king...
Really?
Shame on your so-called ethnic minority friends if they allow you to talk like this in front of them.
Can't believe no one else brought this up.
Silk"
Yes you are right. for one wouldnt even think of speaking like that in front (or not come to that) in front of my mates black or white and secondly if i did they wouldnt stay my mates for long, i just dont beleive him !!! |
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At present the laws of this land often result in people with serious convictions not being allowed entry which to me seems fine it happens with other countries too. Do we really want offenders from other lands coming here? I know I would say not no matter who they are and we have to be consistent on this. |
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I have read every post in this thread and it disturbs me that there are men who believe that violence towards women is acceptable if she is "an actress who took his money".
As far as I was aware in marriage his and hers become theirs.
And violence is never the way to resolve anything, let alone between a very large man who is trained to hit people and knows exactly how much damage he can do and a small, slight woman.
I'm curious to know at what point does an imploding relationship cross the line where it is acceptable to simply start hitting your other half? Because some of the responses on here suggest they think this is ok.
Mike Tyson has admitted being violent to his wife. He bit another boxer in a televised event and has never apologised or suggested it was wrong. And he has been convicted of rape in a country where the cult of celebrity holds very strong.
None of this has any relation to his intelligence or his skills as a boxer.
The ultimate question is: how many of you Tyson fans would be happy for a young, pretty female relative (daughter or neice) to date him? The UK Border Agency change in policy has meant that no-one in the UK has to face this dilemma. If you really want to see him you'll have to go to the USA. |
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"Currently half way through his autobiography.. Grippin stuff and yes in my oppinion the best pound for pound boxer ever, he was ruthless in the ring!
Have you not heard of Ali , Frazier & Holmes ? All have better records than Tyson. He was the best at the time but for a very short time.
If Tyson in his prime vs Ali in his prime got in the ring, I'd put money on Tyson no problem
Blimey. I guess that's the reason why bookmakers are rich.
Tyson didn't have as many fights or fight for as long as Ali, but he knocked more out. Tyson fought people of all shapes and sizes and won in the first couple of rounds
But doesn't the longevity of a career add to the greatness. Getting to the top us hard , staying there is harder. "
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"Your joking bruno had him beat in the ninthe round. Research your boxing dont just comment off of u tube highlights "
I think it shocked Bruno that he had hurt him. Shame he never had the killer instinct to pile in.
Tyson is one of my favourite boxers of all time. He may not rank as an all time great, but he was the last exciting heavyweight. Since then we have just had boring boxers like Lewis and the Klitchkos |
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"think I'll get his autobiography. He was a fucking awesome boxer, arguably the best ever!
Not even in the top 5.
Who would your top 5 be?
Sorry I was a bit hasty. Not even in the top ten.
Too five is
Ali
Larry Holmes
George Foreman
Joe Frazier
Sonny Liston"
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You are only as good as the opponents you face.
Lennox Lewis was a great and clever fighter who made more money at the start of his career by being paid by other boxers to step aside so lesser fighters could have title shots. At the time Pinklon Thomas was adjudged to be the best heavyweight around. He avoided Lewis for as long as he could. Lewis destroyed him. Same with Riddick Bowe. He threw his world title belt in the bin to avoid Lewis.
Nice work if you can get it.
Incidentally. Frank Bruno was the first boxer to tag and genuinely hurt the "invincible" Iron mike Tyson. Although he lost that night he proved that Tyson could be hurt. It was the beginning of the end. |
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Wher do u get your facts from Lewis done him in the fird. And I dont care if the filthy nonce went to jail. He had plenty of time to train im Ther. And look what he said about lewis kids. The guy a wrongen. You dont threten kids THE END |
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"I have read every post in this thread and it disturbs me that there are men who believe that violence towards women is acceptable if she is "an actress who took his money".
As far as I was aware in marriage his and hers become theirs.
And violence is never the way to resolve anything, let alone between a very large man who is trained to hit people and knows exactly how much damage he can do and a small, slight woman.
I'm curious to know at what point does an imploding relationship cross the line where it is acceptable to simply start hitting your other half? Because some of the responses on here suggest they think this is ok.
Mike Tyson has admitted being violent to his wife. He bit another boxer in a televised event and has never apologised or suggested it was wrong. And he has been convicted of rape in a country where the cult of celebrity holds very strong.
None of this has any relation to his intelligence or his skills as a boxer.
The ultimate question is: how many of you Tyson fans would be happy for a young, pretty female relative (daughter or neice) to date him? The UK Border Agency change in policy has meant that no-one in the UK has to face this dilemma. If you really want to see him you'll have to go to the USA."
Well said thats the most sensible comment posted in hear |
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"Wher do u get your facts from Lewis done him in the fird. And I dont care if the filthy nonce went to jail. He had plenty of time to train im Ther. And look what he said about lewis kids. The guy a wrongen. You dont threten kids THE END "
Lewis had no kids at the time |
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"You are only as good as the opponents you face.
Lennox Lewis was a great and clever fighter who made more money at the start of his career by being paid by other boxers to step aside so lesser fighters could have title shots. At the time Pinklon Thomas was adjudged to be the best heavyweight around. He avoided Lewis for as long as he could. Lewis destroyed him. Same with Riddick Bowe. He threw his world title belt in the bin to avoid Lewis.
Nice work if you can get it.
Incidentally. Frank Bruno was the first boxer to tag and genuinely hurt the "invincible" Iron mike Tyson. Although he lost that night he proved that Tyson could be hurt. It was the beginning of the end. "
Any heavyweight can hurt another if they get tagged... Lewis's two losses and going life and death with vitali, albeit (when fat and close to retiring)is proof of that. I think vitali would always give Lewis problems. That's not a sleight against Lewis, vitali is just a tough s.o.b.
Bruno wasn't a catalyst, he had two shots and lasted 6 rounds?
Tyson was tremendous for almost 3 years. The loss to Douglas needn't have been the end...he wasn't outclassed. He fought well later, against the likes of razor Ruddock. It's a shame the Holyfield fight didn't happen sooner, same with the Lewis fight but he f#cked up, paid a price, did time and shit happens. Often we reap what we sow.
Both camps have strong reasons for believing their fighter is better, but even Lewis would tell you..a prime Tyson would not be an easy prospect...and I freely admit, nor would Lewis.
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"Yeah he did and Tyson said he was going to eat them. Google it "
According to salon.com "its true, Lennox Lewis does not have a wife or children for Mike Tyson to snack on."
So maybe he had the kids later?
I recall there were rumours of bring gay because he lived with his mum, and was single?
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