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By *yrdwomanWoman
over a year ago
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Invictus
Out of the night that covers me,
Black as the Pit from pole to pole,
I thank whatever gods may be
For my unconquerable soul.
In the fell clutch of circumstance
I have not winced nor cried aloud.
Under the bludgeonings of chance
My head is bloody, but unbowed.
Beyond this place of wrath and tears
Looms but the Horror of the shade,
And yet the menace of the years
Finds, and shall find, me unafraid.
It matters not how strait the gate,
How charged with punishments the scroll.
I am the master of my fate:
I am the captain of my soul.
William Ernest Henley |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"passed away....
I knew this day was coming but still a shock....
the man united a country and got the respect of the world..."
So true RIP Nelson Mandela |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"passed away....
I knew this day was coming but still a shock....
the man united a country and got the respect of the world..."
Glad he passed peacefully and at home surrounded by those he loved. A great man that has such a positive influence and outlook...RIP x |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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An inspiration. Is there any comparison between him and the likes of Obahma and Cameron who will seek to gain political capital from his death...... I think not. RIP |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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seriously we're even arguing on thread open to respect people who have died now? this site never fails to amaze does it 
farewell to a brave men who served 27 years standing up for what he believed in, not many of us would do that x |
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By *ugby 123Couple
over a year ago
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Ok....in respect of the people who want to add condolences to this thread I am taking the other posts off.
If people want it to stay a RIP thread, then ignore any other posts and report them.
If anyone wants to start a thread on a different issue, by all means do.
I can't believe all this everytime somebody dies, it is getting tedious. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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As I walked out the door toward the gate that would lead to my freedom, I knew if I didn't leave my bitterness and hatred behind, I'd still be in prison.
Nelson Mandela 1918-2013 |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"As I walked out the door toward the gate that would lead to my freedom, I knew if I didn't leave my bitterness and hatred behind, I'd still be in prison.
Nelson Mandela 1918-2013 "
great words |
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By *abio OP Man
over a year ago
Newcastle and Gateshead |
“No one is born hating another person because of the color of his skin, or his background, or his religion. People must learn to hate, and if they can learn to hate, they can be taught to love, for love comes more naturally to the human heart than its opposite.”
Nelson Mandela |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"As I walked out the door toward the gate that would lead to my freedom, I knew if I didn't leave my bitterness and hatred behind, I'd still be in prison.
Nelson Mandela 1918-2013 "
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"“No one is born hating another person because of the color of his skin, or his background, or his religion. People must learn to hate, and if they can learn to hate, they can be taught to love, for love comes more naturally to the human heart than its opposite.”
Nelson Mandela"
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It has been a privilege to share the planet with such an immense and amazing man frankly, such a unity figure and torule without rancour or vengeance after all he had been through, an aspirational figure for all |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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when he walked out at Ellis park in front of 65,000 people and millions of _iewers worldwide on 24th June 1995 wearing a springbok jersey just showed the class of the man.
wearing the springbok jersey was a massive statement that was worth more than a thousand words.
a truly great man |
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By *drianukMan
over a year ago
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A good man through and through.
The BBC are going totally overboard though - like they havent done before for any politician.
Both BBC1 and BBC2 have been broadcasting non-stop about him for nearly two hours now.
They need a sense of proportion. Are they showing their ideological underskirts? |
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By *icketysplitsWoman
over a year ago
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I was at the cinema seeing The Butler and thinking about my time protesting outside of the South African embassy. I got in the car to hear the news of Madiba's death.
A night of tears and inspiration.
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By *icketysplitsWoman
over a year ago
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"“No one is born hating another person because of the color of his skin, or his background, or his religion. People must learn to hate, and if they can learn to hate, they can be taught to love, for love comes more naturally to the human heart than its opposite.”
Nelson Mandela"
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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RIP Madiba , A great Man has passed. He united the world and the nation.
I was born in Africa , Africa is in my heart. he was greatly admire. A True Leader among Leaders |
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"Ok....in respect of the people who want to add condolences to this thread I am taking the other posts off.
If people want it to stay a RIP thread, then ignore any other posts and report them.
If anyone wants to start a thread on a different issue, by all means do.
I can't believe all this everytime somebody dies, it is getting tedious.
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Sorry but this wasn't just somebody
This thread proves that
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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We wish to add our respect, admiration and sadness. A man who inspired a generation, lived his words and taught love without boundaries.
A long rest now, job done. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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A great man who had a great man and stood up for his beliefs, you was here in our time, we all all honured to share that time with you..
Rest in peace and be free for eternity my friend. 3 |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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Have always been in two minds about this man and was debating with myself whether to post here...or in the one less terrorist thread....
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Listening to the Jeremy Vine show this afternoon changed my outlook quite significantly.
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I still believe that this man was jailed for reasons that were sound, regardless of the circumstances.
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However, I used to _iew him in the same terms as Messrs Adams & McGinnis.
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Not anymore. Listening to the stories of this man and how he used his status, not for revenge, but for reconciliation, about his humility, his sincerity and his love for his fellow human beings has changed my _iew of the man.
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I think we can all learn lessons from him and from his life and we can all become better people as a result.
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Adams & McGinnis can learn a lot about peace and reconcilliation and actually use the rest of their lives for the good of the people they now represent and for their country.
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R.I.P Nelson Mandela, a man who has now shed his mortal skin, and is now clothed in glory with his God |
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By *igSuki81Man
over a year ago
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RIP Nelson Mandela - you stuck to your beliefs & although you had the mental strength & conviction i just wish you had the physical strength to continue in office for longer to see your dream come through properly.
Seems the same story throughout history strong leading men who fight for a better world & bring change are left weak from the struggle to see their dream fulfilled with the clarity and purity they dreamt of.
Gone but never will you or your strength & bravery be forgotten |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"“No one is born hating another person because of the color of his skin, or his background, or his religion. People must learn to hate, and if they can learn to hate, they can be taught to love, for love comes more naturally to the human heart than its opposite.”
Nelson Mandela"
So very true |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"The accolade 'Greatness' is used too often, it should be reserved for people like Nelson Mandela.
The term "hero" seems appropriate, too. "
A "Saint"even .... |
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By *nnyMan
over a year ago
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"The accolade 'Greatness' is used too often, it should be reserved for people like Nelson Mandela.
The term "hero" seems appropriate, too.
A "Saint"even ...."
Er........ naw! That's when you start getting into all that pish about miracles |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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Its sad he has died as i think he was a true statesman and after his release from jail handled himself in a way other world leaders can only dream of.
That being said it has no direct impact on me and am already bored of the constant news about him.
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By *abio OP Man
over a year ago
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there are not many people you could call global "icons" of the last half of the 20th century...
my list was Gandhi, MLK, Pope john paul 2 and Mandela...... statesmen not politicians |
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By *nnyMan
over a year ago
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"there are not many people you could call global "icons" of the last half of the 20th century...
my list was Gandhi, MLK, Pope john paul 2 and Mandela...... statesmen not politicians"
Flagging JP2 up as an 'icon' on a site designed to facilitate sexual activity between people who aren't necessarily married to each other, are seldom doing it for the purpose of procreation and almost always use condoms is a joke. |
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By *aucy3Couple
over a year ago
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"there are not many people you could call global "icons" of the last half of the 20th century...
my list was Gandhi, MLK, Pope john paul 2 and Mandela...... statesmen not politicians
Flagging JP2 up as an 'icon' on a site designed to facilitate sexual activity between people who aren't necessarily married to each other, are seldom doing it for the purpose of procreation and almost always use condoms is a joke."
Only if your bigotry,runs deeper,than your common sense.  |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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Brave, courageous, clever and compassionate without compromise for his belief in getting justice for all and willing to sacrifice his life. He deserves all our respect.
Truely, one of the greatest human beings to walk this planet.
It's time for him to rest. |
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By *nnyMan
over a year ago
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"there are not many people you could call global "icons" of the last half of the 20th century...
my list was Gandhi, MLK, Pope john paul 2 and Mandela...... statesmen not politicians
Flagging JP2 up as an 'icon' on a site designed to facilitate sexual activity between people who aren't necessarily married to each other, are seldom doing it for the purpose of procreation and almost always use condoms is a joke.
Only if your bigotry,runs deeper,than your common sense. "
When did pointing out the truth, unpalatable as it may be, become bigotry? |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"there are not many people you could call global "icons" of the last half of the 20th century...
my list was Gandhi, MLK, Pope john paul 2 and Mandela...... statesmen not politicians
Flagging JP2 up as an 'icon' on a site designed to facilitate sexual activity between people who aren't necessarily married to each other, are seldom doing it for the purpose of procreation and almost always use condoms is a joke."
What a truly bizarre thing to say. Don't we all have a life outside this site/forum, with all our beliefs, emotional preferences, choices, etc? There are other topics discussed here that could be perceived as distasteful, even in a sexual context. Holding somebody in a high regard is not one of them. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"We do indeed all have a life outwith Fab but I'd rather hoped the personal values we hold apply to our Fab and non-Fab lives.
Anything else is just being two-faced."
Pope John Paul II stood for a lot of things. Although an atheist, I did admire him, too. I fail to see how that can be two-faced. What other dimension is there apart from fab/non-fab lives? |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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It takes a giant of a man to say "let bygones be bygones" and to forgive and forget the barbarians who raped and pillaged South Africa and made the black South Africans second-class citizens in their own country. He has done so much for South Africa, and indeed the rest of the world.
Rest in peace, big man. |
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By *nnyMan
over a year ago
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"We do indeed all have a life outwith Fab but I'd rather hoped the personal values we hold apply to our Fab and non-Fab lives.
Anything else is just being two-faced.
Pope John Paul II stood for a lot of things. Although an atheist, I did admire him, too. I fail to see how that can be two-faced. What other dimension is there apart from fab/non-fab lives? "
The point I made (above) is that Fabsters, in general, have no problem with homosexuality, sex outwith marriage and the use of condoms.
JP2, and other Popes, condemns all 3 - and more.
The only extra marital sex the Pope doesn't seem to have a problem with is priests abusing children in their care. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"We do indeed all have a life outwith Fab but I'd rather hoped the personal values we hold apply to our Fab and non-Fab lives.
Anything else is just being two-faced.
Pope John Paul II stood for a lot of things. Although an atheist, I did admire him, too. I fail to see how that can be two-faced. What other dimension is there apart from fab/non-fab lives?
The point I made (above) is that Fabsters, in general, have no problem with homosexuality, sex outwith marriage and the use of condoms.
JP2, and other Popes, condemns all 3 - and more.
The only extra marital sex the Pope doesn't seem to have a problem with is priests abusing children in their care."
Just one reason why I hate religion, especially the Catholic Church. |
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"Just brought this up to remind the people who said rip to this good man that he was once branded a terrorist by the British government just like Martin mcguinness was. "
The difference was his was a political struggle against oppression due to the colour of his skin.
He went to prison and remained resolute, preaching peace as a way of setting right the obvious wrong..
His wasn't a battle over which government collected the rubbish from outside your house or what version of a religious belief you held.. (yes that does belittle the troubles in Ireland but that is ultimately what it was over)
Mandela openly admitted what he did in his early years was the wrong course of action and made up for that by fighting to free south Africa from apartheid.
Mcguinness never once admitted any involvement with any acts of violence nor did he apologise to the families of those killed by the IRA on behalf of the Republican government he served.
mcguinness died with blood on his hands and the death of hundreds on his conscience...
There will be many hoping he burns for eternity..
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By *aid backMan
over a year ago
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"Just brought this up to remind the people who said rip to this good man that he was once branded a terrorist by the British government just like Martin mcguinness was.
The difference was his was a political struggle against oppression due to the colour of his skin.
He went to prison and remained resolute, preaching peace as a way of setting right the obvious wrong..
His wasn't a battle over which government collected the rubbish from outside your house or what version of a religious belief you held.. (yes that does belittle the troubles in Ireland but that is ultimately what it was over)
Mandela openly admitted what he did in his early years was the wrong course of action and made up for that by fighting to free south Africa from apartheid.
Mcguinness never once admitted any involvement with any acts of violence nor did he apologise to the families of those killed by the IRA on behalf of the Republican government he served.
mcguinness died with blood on his hands and the death of hundreds on his conscience...
There will be many hoping he burns for eternity..
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and many more who will morn him as a peace maker and as a hero too |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"The difference was his was a political struggle against oppression due to the colour of his skin.
He went to prison and remained resolute, preaching peace as a way of setting right the obvious wrong..
His wasn't a battle over which government collected the rubbish from outside your house or what version of a religious belief you held.. (yes that does belittle the troubles in Ireland but that is ultimately what it was over
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They were both representing peoples who had their human rights suppressed. Both started with military tactics before leading their movement into a peaceful, democratic process.
The Catholic/Protestant narrative doesn't accurately reflect the NI issue at all. It's simple, convenient and media friendly. People were not fighting to practice their religion. They were fighting to gain self-determination, for their right to a cultural identity, and for their human rights. |
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By *eKoopleCouple
over a year ago
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"passed away....
I knew this day was coming but still a shock....
the man united a country and got the respect of the world..."
I've learnt so many lessons reading about him, it should be lessons taught in schools today. |
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