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By (user no longer on site) OP     over a year ago

Fracking in Manchester. Maybe the gas bills go down! & we will have subsidence in the future.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

Can't believe the government thinks it's a good idea. Lord knows the damage this practice will do in the long run.

Guess with the prevalent nimby-mindset of the majority of people, windfarms won't get far (unless offshore, perhaps).

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

it caused chaos and mayhem near me when the protesters took over - thousands of them

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

Notice its mainly been done in the north the goverment on london could not give a monkeys i personally believe it will have dire consequences in years to come.

As for bills coming down not a chance.

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By (user no longer on site) OP     over a year ago

An interesting reaction. How much coal did we take before we ran out. There's a sea of wind farms already. Our Manchester sun don't shine enough for solar power lol

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

There could be many more oniland wind farms, if the public weren't so anal about keeping the UK Ye Olde England cookie-tin pristine. They forget that those picturesque villages and the countryside will have seen many changes in the past anyway. Besides, wind turbines can be dismantled at any time without leaving scars on the landscape, if another source will be found.

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By *uckyinlustMan  over a year ago

manchester

Motherfracking brill

Every fracking motherfracker thinks they are a fracking expert on fracking fracking

What a load of fracking shite

If a fracking fracker wants to fracking frack, then let the fracker frack

Unless you got a PHD in geology and physics then what the frack do you know about fracking.........:........frack ALL ...............

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By (user no longer on site) OP     over a year ago

For fracks sake !

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By *ophieslutTV/TS  over a year ago

Central

Dont need a Phd in geology etc, it is our small country and water supplies that are at risk. In a much less densely populated country, I may think differently, but I am generally against it here in the UK. We will have water supply availability issues grow in future too, so using millions of gallons of it to enable fracking is inappropriate, potentially causing shortages for everyone. As fracking can cause massive pollution of drinking water sources, it is also not right for here. Just because there are carbon rich fuel supplies around, it does not mean that we need to race to deplete them. We should be maximising our greener energy generation, leaving the world a better place for our kids. Global warming is still potentially able to be somewhat minimised. It is clear that sea level rises, food shortages, catastrophic weather events have now to be faced in the short term at huge cost. We have much to do to mitigate the effects of this, let alone make things worse. Fracking may also cause earthquake damage, and these carry potential risks that our infrastructure is not prepared for, unlike, say, the california fault line area. Too much risk, for only the private energy companies to gain from. It is clear that they use cheaper costs to increase their profits, rather than provide cheap energy to the public. It is a no brainer - the risk and damage that the public faces, from it, to allow these parasites to grab from greedily, leaving a potential wasteland for future kids and their families. No to UK fracking.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

There ARE plans to frack under London, which will be interesting....with an artesian water supply.

As anyone who has watched the documentary 'Gasline' (think that's the name), will agree, anyone who thinks pumping superheated steam with over 650 different chemicals in it, is a good idea and safe, is deluded.

The picture of people lighting their water from underground supplies, was very persuasive.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Motherfracking brill

Every fracking motherfracker thinks they are a fracking expert on fracking fracking

What a load of fracking shite

If a fracking fracker wants to fracking frack, then let the fracker frack

Unless you got a PHD in geology and physics then what the frack do you know about fracking.........:........frack ALL ............... "

medieval man - indeed.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

Gasland, not Gasline, sorry. Won an Oscar, I believe.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

First time I heard about the practice, was in CSI. You can say what you like about their storylines, but they wouldn't insert ludicrous scenarios.

try www dangers of fracking dot com (without the spaces of course).

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By *icked weaselCouple  over a year ago

Near Edinburgh..

fracking = lets cause earthquakes !!! its a good idea

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By *ndy_mandyCouple  over a year ago

Tredegar

Let them carry on, we are not bothered by it

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

There is a lot wrong with fracking, it's a very wasteful process, and causes large amounts of methane to leak into the ground hence the flammable water, but it does not cause earthquakes.

Wind turbines currently have such a short lifespan and low productivity they actually have a very high carbon footprint, but should not be abandoned, just developed better.

We need to investigate all forms of fuel source, but on a long term basis not the timing of popularity needed for the next election.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Can't believe the government thinks it's a good idea. Lord knows the damage this practice will do in the long run.

Guess with the prevalent nimby-mindset of the majority of people, windfarms won't get far (unless offshore, perhaps).

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I think you should research windfarms before making comments like this. Too many uninformed people flying the green tree hugging flag, that don't have a Scooby-doo

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"There could be many more oniland wind farms, if the public weren't so anal about keeping the UK Ye Olde England cookie-tin pristine. They forget that those picturesque villages and the countryside will have seen many changes in the past anyway. Besides, wind turbines can be dismantled at any time without leaving scars on the landscape, if another source will be found. "

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"There could be many more oniland wind farms, if the public weren't so anal about keeping the UK Ye Olde England cookie-tin pristine. They forget that those picturesque villages and the countryside will have seen many changes in the past anyway. Besides, wind turbines can be dismantled at any time without leaving scars on the landscape, if another source will be found.

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Anyone who has any decent knowledge of these, knows that the visual aspect is only one of many problems with wind farms....

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

Don't have an opinion either way on wind farms, ie, fighting my 'NIMBY' frame of mind. However, worries me the research into their impact on CO2 etc is only over 2 yeas, not longterm.

The turbines are in windy places- a given- which in Scotland, anyway, tends to be moors, isolated. The cutting down of forests to build them, the removal of thousands of tons of peat and the 25 feet deep plinths of concrete they sit on, the wash-off of organic matter and the roads and infrastructure required release enormous amounts of CO2 and no-one knows how many years it takes just to 'break-even'.

In my view, at the moment, wind turbines are more about private gain than common good.

Frackling, however, is a whole different ball game. What is done by that can never, ever, be undone and the damage ruins lives and potentially, kills people.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Don't have an opinion either way on wind farms, ie, fighting my 'NIMBY' frame of mind. However, worries me the research into their impact on CO2 etc is only over 2 yeas, not longterm.

The turbines are in windy places- a given- which in Scotland, anyway, tends to be moors, isolated. The cutting down of forests to build them, the removal of thousands of tons of peat and the 25 feet deep plinths of concrete they sit on, the wash-off of organic matter and the roads and infrastructure required release enormous amounts of CO2 and no-one knows how many years it takes just to 'break-even'.

In my view, at the moment, wind turbines are more about private gain than common good.

Frackling, however, is a whole different ball game. What is done by that can never, ever, be undone and the damage ruins lives and potentially, kills people."

I cannot comment on fracking to be honest but your judgement on turbines is fair

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

I was led to believe that there is still in the pits, just like most things it is cheaper to buy it in.

Lets have a fracking good time..... ( sorry could not help myself)

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